Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1151

#451 | backinblack167 | Posted 9/2/2013 10:34:05 PM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
I think Pokemon just resists SFF in general. Pokemon fanboys are more rabid than Zelda fanboys.

Rerun the best series contest, and I think Pokemon might actually take it. Unless, well, League of Legends counts as a series.


one game isn't really a series. Need at least two games so DOTA will make that one.


Calling DotA a series is a stretch when you consider the "second" game is a direct remake of the original custom map.
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#452 | WhiteLens | Posted 9/2/2013 10:34:55 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5140

Man, should've known all along, no one believes in Sonic. He even did worse than Crono!

Also, 'No One' is correct with that option...just for a different reason.
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#453 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 9/2/2013 10:42:57 PM | message detail
From: TheOneAboveAll | #448
Here's my problem. Allen plainly laid out that he had two options, one of which was unfair to Draven and the other of which was unfair to Link. No win. So basically, he could legitimately decide (with entirely fair logic) to side with reddit or with his own web site. He chose reddit.

The only thing that I didn't like is that he admitted that one of his options was biased toward Link, yet he didn't seem to acknowledge that his other option was biased toward Draven. I'm sure that he didn't actually mean it this way, but the wording of his post made it sound like he chose this option with the intention of cutting off Link.

He could have just said that he didn't want to extend the poll because it would create more complications, confuse the casual voters, and throw off the rest of the contest schedule, and that would have been a perfectly fine justification instead.
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#454 | pjbasis | Posted 9/2/2013 10:45:30 PM | message detail
Got some juicy stats based on the bonus round.

Draven - 21.70˘
Jak - 17.80˘
Chie - 14.12˘

Pikachu - 9.90˘
Vivi - 9.65˘
Mario - 9.61˘
Crono - 8.49˘

X - 6.25˘
Ryu - 4.67˘
Lloyd - 4.41˘
Big Daddy - 4.38˘
Ganondorf - 4.12˘
Jensen - 3.70˘

Duke - 2.78˘
Magus - 2.63˘
Missile - 2.60˘
Kerrigan - 2.39˘
Jigglypuff - 2.30˘
Yuri - 2.20˘
Marisa - 2.16˘

Otacon - 1.93˘
Fawful - 1.44˘
Face - 1.37˘
Guybrush - 1.14˘
Max - 1.06˘
Welkin - 1.03˘
Jade - 1.00˘
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#455 | tgs2 | Posted 9/2/2013 10:46:00 PM | message detail
backinblack167 posted...
tgs2 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
I think Pokemon just resists SFF in general. Pokemon fanboys are more rabid than Zelda fanboys.

Rerun the best series contest, and I think Pokemon might actually take it. Unless, well, League of Legends counts as a series.


one game isn't really a series. Need at least two games so DOTA will make that one.


Calling DotA a series is a stretch when you consider the "second" game is a direct remake of the original custom map.


It won't be the only time something got in on a technicality so eh.

Also it looks like Sonic might end up losing an update or two to an LFFed Bowser. lol
#456 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/2/2013 10:50:32 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...

Otacon - 1.93˘
Fawful - 1.44˘
Face - 1.37˘
Guybrush - 1.14˘
Max - 1.06˘
Welkin - 1.03˘
Jade - 1.00˘


YES.
AND AFTER THIS ROUND...!
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#457 | wedgeskywalker9 | Posted 9/2/2013 10:53:36 PM | message detail
backinblack167 posted...
tgs2 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
I think Pokemon just resists SFF in general. Pokemon fanboys are more rabid than Zelda fanboys.

Rerun the best series contest, and I think Pokemon might actually take it. Unless, well, League of Legends counts as a series.


one game isn't really a series. Need at least two games so DOTA will make that one.


Calling DotA a series is a stretch when you consider the "second" game is a direct remake of the original custom map.


You put the quotes around the wrong word. They should be around "game".
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#458 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/2/2013 10:55:57 PM | message detail
actually wait a sec.
that was just off of the bonus round. not including Link/Draven/Shep.

so... Face McShooty.
even less?
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#459 | jtwo22 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:03:49 PM | message detail
Mewtwo increasing that lead. 1152 now.
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#460 | pjbasis | Posted 9/2/2013 11:06:49 PM | message detail
Not sure what you're trying to say Wang.
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#461 | tennisboy213 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:08:02 PM | message detail
Sonic got a cut in, first cut of the match by anyone I believe.
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#462 | Yuri_LowelI | Posted 9/2/2013 11:08:58 PM | message detail
I don't know why people acting surprised about sonic. He was iconic. But over the last 10 years he's had garbage game after garbage game with the odd decent one. He's in no way shape or form strong. If he was he would resist bowser and win this outright.
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#463 | Yuri_LowelI | Posted 9/2/2013 11:10:08 PM | message detail
tennisboy213 posted...
Sonic got a cut in, first cut of the match by anyone I believe.


Europe loves sonic. He'll cut and decrease the lead until America wakes up.
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#464 | tennisboy213 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:11:51 PM | message detail
Also, the votals in this match are roughly half of yesterday's at this time.
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#465 | Denzokuken | Posted 9/2/2013 11:25:53 PM | message detail
Phoenix and Vincent legit
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#466 | DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/2/2013 11:38:08 PM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
I just read Allen's piece. It was well-thought-out and logically sound. He isn't screwing anyone. He was stuck with 2 options and took one, then stood up for himself. I appreciate that. I really do.

Here's my problem. Allen plainly laid out that he had two options, one of which was unfair to Draven and the other of which was unfair to Link. No win. So basically, he could legitimately decide (with entirely fair logic) to side with reddit or with his own web site. He chose reddit.

His decision wasn't unfair. But it feels like a betrayal.


It IS unfair though, if you look at the numbers and the data. Link got screwed. Extending the match is no guarantee that Link will even win by his own admission (and then he hilariously tries to argue that it wouldn't matter anyway 'cause Link wouldn't have won based on his gains/minute), but instead of giving both Link and Draven a fair shake he just called the match over.

I don't think anyone would have been too pissed if he just extended the match. Even reddit would have just buckled down and tried to rally again. Usually in rally matches the rallied character prevails at the very end. It's the fact that Allen didn't even give Link a chance to make up his missed votes (which he claims everyone who wanted to vote for him already did anyway... so what's the harm Allen?). If Allen extended the match and Link still lost, obviously some people would be crying about it here but I think most of us reasonable users would have accepted it as a fair result.

Rallying is fair game. Having the site shutdown during the loser's best comeback period is not.
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#467 | pjbasis | Posted 9/2/2013 11:42:31 PM | message detail
Division 1 is complete and lines up with the bonus stats pretty well, despite Jade being behind Magus SFF

Draven - 21.14
Link - 20.85
Jak - 17.34
Chie - 13.76

Raiden - 7.66
Yoshi - 6.20
X - 6.10
Waluigi - 6.04
Shepard - 5.37
Aerith - 5.13

Ryu - 4.55
Isaac - 4.41
Tingle - 3.44

Olimar - 2.93
Hero - 2.59
Solaire - 2.58
Tharja - 2.42
Tina - 2.35
Rinoa - 2.34
Jigglypuff - 2.24
Yuri - 2.15

Juliet - 1.90
Alan - 1.69
Kain - 1.63
Demi-Fiend - 1.55
Face - 1.41
Welkin - 1.00
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#468 | Janus5000 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:46:03 PM | message detail
X - 6.10
Waluigi - 6.04


this is the most disappointing thing about link losing
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#469 | pjbasis | Posted 9/2/2013 11:46:21 PM | message detail
Well actually, we're not gonna be able to tell what it says until more R3 matches come up.
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#470 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:48:15 PM | message detail
I refuse to see Draven higher than Link in the xstats and Chester stats
#471 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/2/2013 11:48:57 PM | message detail
good god does Welkin suck.
how hard is it for someone to be worth less than a chester?
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#472 | WhiteLens | Posted 9/2/2013 11:52:13 PM | message detail
You know I was wondering if there should be a final bonus match with Link vs Draven 1v1....but then I realized that it'd be pointless because Link would dominate since no one is gonna care to rally a bonus poll.
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#473 | pjbasis | Posted 9/2/2013 11:52:27 PM | message detail
Mewtwo is worth 23.3 on Chester directly, so he's have to beat Draven decently to get Welkin under Chester.

Also Welkin is behind R2 Draven so he's probably not THAT bad >_>
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#474 | SnoicFactor | Posted 9/2/2013 11:59:19 PM | message detail
man sonic is pathetic now
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#475 | Janus5000 | Posted 9/3/2013 12:20:04 AM | message detail
ok so I started doing Xstats for division 1 but got bored

the only relevant thing is that Waluigi is 6th
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#476 | iGenesis | Posted 9/3/2013 12:28:34 AM | message detail
Yuri_LowelI posted...
I don't know why people acting surprised about sonic. He was iconic. But over the last 10 years he's had garbage game after garbage game with the odd decent one.


Sounds a lot like what happened to Pocket Monsters.
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#477 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/3/2013 12:48:52 AM | message detail
If Mewtwo beats Sonic
Squirtle>Cloud is very likely?
#478 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/3/2013 1:18:32 AM | message detail
Mewtwo saves the contest?

And yes, Squirtle could beat Cloud but I wouldn't call it a certainty by any means. Even weaker Cloud is still really, really strong.
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#479 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/3/2013 1:30:11 AM | message detail
So I just woke up...
1)Draven won.Nice.Somebody beat Link.And the percentage 1.2%...Still higher than L-BLock.
2)Mewtwo dominating?What is going on?Oh and about Crono beeing the weaker N9...
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#480 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/3/2013 1:50:33 AM | message detail
I wonder if there was OMG WTF MEWTWO WINS during the first minutes of the match or it was shadowed too much by Link
#481 | __hiei__ | Posted 9/3/2013 1:50:54 AM | message detail
goof job beating Link with shepard in the match to drain votes from him and the site being down an hour or so at Link's strongest moments

pretty clear Link should have won in a real 24 hour match, or in a 1 on 1 match.
#482 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/3/2013 2:21:26 AM | message detail
Why is Mewtwo dying now lol
Sonic doesn't have an excuse to lose this
Even being leeched by Bowser...Zelda almost beat the Zard in the same scenario
#483 | xp1337 | Posted 9/3/2013 2:23:46 AM | message detail
All right, I'm still nearly 3 topics behind (Read the rest of 1148 after I left) but wtf happened here. Checked Link and he almost did it? That looks like "shutdown mattered" territory!

ugh checking the board for everything i missed going to be annoying
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#484 | NBlastMax | Posted 9/3/2013 2:26:13 AM | message detail
GOTTA GO FAST SONIC!

He can do it!
#485 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/3/2013 2:33:46 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
All right, I'm still nearly 3 topics behind (Read the rest of 1148 after I left) but wtf happened here. Checked Link and he almost did it? That looks like "shutdown mattered" territory!

ugh checking the board for everything i missed going to be annoying


This is indeed shutdown mattered
Even if im generous in my calculations,Link wins by 200 votes
And those calculations are really in Draven favor
If I change them a little to be less pro-Draven,Link is projected to win by up to 500
#486 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 9/3/2013 2:34:37 AM | message detail
Link gets a complete screwjob added to his contest history, to go with several other NN members. A true hero.
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#487 | xp1337 | Posted 9/3/2013 2:39:17 AM | message detail
Just powered through 1149. I'm catching up!

From these summaries, sounds like my fears were right. Link continued being a ****ing beast, but ran out of time because of the shutdown and we just moved on.

I'm just sorry I couldn't stay awake, but I was literally running on pure joy from Link's massive cuts and that stall-fest brought me back to Earth after 18 hours of following that poll plus the time before that. Tried to wake up at 11 PM EST and just couldn't!

link. champion in our hearts.

*salute*
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#488 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 9/3/2013 2:45:59 AM | message detail | (edited)
Though I'm a bit sad today. That stupid match has probably put SBA off running any more contests with all the accusations and whining. Sad way to go out.
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#489 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/3/2013 2:52:27 AM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
Though I'm a bit sad today. That stupid match has probably put SBA off running any more contests with all the accusations and whining. Sad way to go out.


If he genuinly doesn't believe Link didn't deserve to win this then screw contests
I don't want to take part in something like this again
Mario Crono got nothing on this
Also what happened with Vincent picture
#490 | xp1337 | Posted 9/3/2013 2:57:14 AM | message detail
All right, finally caught up.

Really sad I missed that. That was a downright heroic effort by Link. At least with that he pretty much got everything pinned on the downtime. Uniting the board together was also just fantastic! Link, truly crossing all boundaries to bring us together.

So, uh, Mewtwo is winning? Switched off him after Charizard got exposed. Thought Sonic was the one getting help too! Oh well, in the wake of "the end of contests" I can't really bring myself to care!
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#491 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/3/2013 3:02:34 AM | message detail
There will be no end of the contests. There were so much traffic in the previous match that it would be stupid to end them.
Can anyone tell me the vote differences? Draven's max lead was 6144. How much did Link bring that down before Draven managed to go up again? And by how much? And Link bring it down to around 735 votes.
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#492 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/3/2013 3:02:38 AM | message detail
Well, at least after yesterday's match, we get to return to normal with Pokemon winning again.
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#493 | xp1337 | Posted 9/3/2013 3:04:29 AM | message detail
obviously there will be no literal end to contests

man people need to keep up with things here!
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#494 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/3/2013 3:05:08 AM | message detail
Time to bring this up.

Could Mewtwo beat Draven? He's looking pretty beastly today. With r/leagueoflegends banning rallies and r/pokémon not, that gives Mewtwo a big advantage, not to mention anti-voting from the last match.
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#495 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/3/2013 3:05:09 AM | message detail
But why? Nobody had Metwo. I mean there are 2 Nintendo characters facing a N9. Or is Sonic so Nintendo now that he get's SSF'ed?
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#496 | xp1337 | Posted 9/3/2013 3:07:35 AM | message detail
I refuse to believe anyone can beat Draven outside of Link.

Can't imagine anything else being able to put together that kind of showing. I mean, I guess it's theoretically possible, but I will never believe it unless it happens.
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#497 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/3/2013 3:08:05 AM | message detail
Big Boss got it under wraps.
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#499 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/3/2013 3:11:26 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
All right, finally caught up.

Really sad I missed that. That was a downright heroic effort by Link. At least with that he pretty much got everything pinned on the downtime. Uniting the board together was also just fantastic! Link, truly crossing all boundaries to bring us together.

So, uh, Mewtwo is winning? Switched off him after Charizard got exposed. Thought Sonic was the one getting help too! Oh well, in the wake of "the end of contests" I can't really bring myself to care!


Well it isn't as bad as me
Charizard match made me change my view that a rallied Mewtwo can beat Draven to Sonic>Bowser>Mewtwo
I was so disappointed

I still believe next round Draven is going to be weaker,he is nor against the legendary hero of GameFAQs after all
#500 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/3/2013 3:11:37 AM | message detail
Draaaaaaaaaven!
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