Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1149

#201 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 5:52:50 PM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
Wanglicious posted...
Allen didn't get hit with anything bad in there really. Yeah, he got yelled at, people complained, and it's deserved here. If you aren't going to do anything to a problem (DDoS or not, it was a 90 minute site outage) then of course you're gonna get yelled at.


I'm being villified but I think the worst I gave him was "you deserve the hostility aimed your way". The reaction to Allen has been greatly overstated; people are acting like any post that was cynical about his motives was childish or idiotic or harsh or whatever.

The only one really saying that stuff is Wylvane though, and he's hyperbolic about everything.
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#202 | Ex-Kefiroth | Posted 9/2/2013 5:52:52 PM | message detail
KokoroAkechi posted...
97 vote cut by Link.


i'm seeing 67
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#203 | ZFS | Posted 9/2/2013 5:52:56 PM | message detail
Link cutting almost 100 yes
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#204 | HurricaneManning | Posted 9/2/2013 5:53:01 PM | message detail
I follow quite a few people on twitter that love Nintendo/Zelda but most of them are at PAX and probably wouldn't be able to retweet.
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#205 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 9/2/2013 5:53:03 PM | message detail
KokoroAkechi posted...
97 vote cut by Link.


*67
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#206 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 5:53:06 PM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
He also depends on the community to be able to do this.


No he doesn't.
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#207 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/2/2013 5:53:14 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Back above quota. Link, you are unreal.

So, I'm in Salinas, California, right now, driving back from Sunnyvale to Los Angeles. But I've been sitting at a McDonald's for the last hour and a half because I can't take my eyes off of this match. There's no way I can get back to LA before the poll closes, so.......I'll guess I'll drive for a while, and find another place off the freeway to use the internet.


Tell other McDonald's customers with you to vote! And when you get kicked out, just move on to Burger King.
#208 | WellThoughtName | Posted 9/2/2013 5:53:16 PM | message detail
HurricaneManning posted...
I follow quite a few people on twitter that love Nintendo/Zelda but most of them are at PAX and probably wouldn't be able to retweet.


Try it anyway.
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#209 | KokoroAkechi | Posted 9/2/2013 5:53:35 PM | message detail
Oops yes. 67. damn numpad.
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#210 | StealThisSheen | Posted 9/2/2013 5:53:37 PM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
Wanglicious posted...
Allen didn't get hit with anything bad in there really. Yeah, he got yelled at, people complained, and it's deserved here. If you aren't going to do anything to a problem (DDoS or not, it was a 90 minute site outage) then of course you're gonna get yelled at.


I'm being villified but I think the worst I gave him was "you deserve the hostility aimed your way". The reaction to Allen has been greatly overstated; people are acting like any post that was cynical about his motives was childish or idiotic or harsh or whatever.


You were definitely being "Childish, idiotic, and harsh."

Like, I couldn't care less

But you and a few others certainly were.
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#211 | Mershaaay | Posted 9/2/2013 5:54:16 PM | message detail
I'm actually staying up hours later than my body wants me to just to see how this unfolds.

Haven't done this since like 2005... I'm getting nostalgic to the 3 am close times, just staying up at my computer on a boring summer night and listening to new music while posting on this board.

THIS IS WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO
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#212 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/2/2013 5:55:02 PM | message detail
being harsh is fine! you don't do something to fix a major flaw in a big match, of course people will be harsh with you!
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#213 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/2/2013 5:55:06 PM | message detail
HurricaneManning posted...
I follow quite a few people on twitter that love Nintendo/Zelda but most of them are at PAX and probably wouldn't be able to retweet.


Try it anyway. It can't hurt.
#214 | Mershaaay | Posted 9/2/2013 5:55:30 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
Wanglicious posted...
Allen didn't get hit with anything bad in there really. Yeah, he got yelled at, people complained, and it's deserved here. If you aren't going to do anything to a problem (DDoS or not, it was a 90 minute site outage) then of course you're gonna get yelled at.


I'm being villified but I think the worst I gave him was "you deserve the hostility aimed your way". The reaction to Allen has been greatly overstated; people are acting like any post that was cynical about his motives was childish or idiotic or harsh or whatever.

The only one really saying that stuff is Wylvane though, and he's hyperbolic about everything.


You realize he's just trolling right?
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#215 | StealThisSheen | Posted 9/2/2013 5:55:41 PM | message detail
Wanglicious posted...
being harsh is fine! you don't do something to fix a major flaw in a big match, of course people will be harsh with you!


Well, right. I never said I was against it!

It's just silly to deny it.
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#216 | ffmasterjose | Posted 9/2/2013 5:55:57 PM | message detail
*tears bracket in half*
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#217 | ZFS | Posted 9/2/2013 5:56:05 PM | message detail
43% get
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#218 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/2/2013 5:56:10 PM | message detail
The fact that Link will not die after all the crap today is unreal. Screw numbers, this is the most impressive loser of all time.
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#219 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/2/2013 5:56:11 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Random note with this many legitimate rallied votes this round I think we may actually see higher vote totals next round to an actually notable degree

Should be pretty cool!


You seriously believe this? We saw this last round. They all just disappeared.

The fact that more of them are actually posting in our topics to troll us doesn't make them any less likely to disappear for the next 8 days!
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#220 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 5:56:23 PM | message detail
Wanglicious posted...
being harsh is fine! you don't do something to fix a major flaw in a big match, of course people will be harsh with you!


If anything, we aren't being harsh enough! We should give ol' Bacon a visit and tell him what we think of how he's handling the contest!

WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT DO THAT
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#221 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 9/2/2013 5:56:25 PM | message detail
I dont know if @OcarinaOfDoom is someone on this board, but I just have to say that you are a trooper.
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#222 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/2/2013 5:56:31 PM | message detail
43%. I am very pleased.
#223 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 9/2/2013 5:56:51 PM | message detail
Link needs 63 votes to win.
In the last half hour, Link has cut 34 votes per update. At this rate, Draven wins by 1070 votes.
In the last hour, Link has cut 46 votes per update. At this rate, Draven wins by 617 votes.
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#224 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 5:56:59 PM | message detail
It looks like Link is seriously going to bring this under 1500, unless the stuffers go wild. I'm just amazed. Didn't think he could do that.

Wow. That downtime. People will never stop being bitter about this. Crazy stuff.
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#225 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:57:03 PM | message detail
Link at 43%
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#226 | OoD21 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:57:40 PM | message detail
eaglesarebeasts posted...
I dont know if @OcarinaOfDoom is someone on this board, but I just have to say that you are a trooper.


Hi. And yes, just have something on copypaste to send.
#227 | most_games_r_ok | Posted 9/2/2013 5:57:46 PM | message detail
Yes 43%

Really want Link to scrape through
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#228 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/2/2013 5:58:06 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
He also depends on the community to be able to do this.


No he doesn't.


Oh, so now you've gone from just shilling Allen to pretending that the tons of people who put loads of effort into making brackets without which the contest can't function, making match pics, making all these great resources, making the damn thing a success in the first place, don't matter.

Stay classy.
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#229 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 5:58:07 PM | message detail
Remember when people said I was being ridiculous for saying that the downtime could cost Link the match?

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
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#230 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 5:58:20 PM | message detail
Mershaaay posted...
You realize he's just trolling right?

Oh I'm well aware. Like most I ignore him, though he can be amusing.

He always tries to rile people up, rarely succeeds and ends up being the only one actually riled up. It is mildly entertaining.
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#231 | ZFS | Posted 9/2/2013 5:58:31 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
It looks like Link is seriously going to bring this under 1500, unless the stuffers go wild. I'm just amazed. Didn't think he could do that.

Wow. That downtime. People will never stop being bitter about this. Crazy stuff.


Yep. That downtime will end up being a real pain in this match, coud have made a huge difference.
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#232 | ffmasterjose | Posted 9/2/2013 5:58:36 PM | message detail
Soo...

Save_Us.SNAKE?
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#233 | Lopen | Posted 9/2/2013 5:59:03 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...

You seriously believe this? We saw this last round. They all just disappeared.

The fact that more of them are actually posting in our topics to troll us doesn't make them any less likely to disappear for the next 8 days!


No we didn't. We saw a huge amount of Draven stuffing and the same limited reddit rallying from r1

People going to twitter and facebook and stuff for not just Draven but Link should actually have some lasting effect, I think. Not a huge amount, but yeah.
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#234 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 5:59:38 PM | message detail
Give Snake an impromptu Draven/Snake match tomorrow imho! It's the 15th anniversary of Metal Gear Solid!
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#235 | Zabie_W | Posted 9/2/2013 6:00:23 PM | message detail | (edited)
Ignoring who the victor might be. This looks pretty bad for the contest health

Before the match, people was saying that Draven would end the match with even 150.000 votes. That this match would have no less than 200.000 votes. I Myself predicted that it would have roughly 150.000 (75k for Draven, 55k for Link and 20k for Shepard)

And yet, it only managed a meager 100.000 on a match with Rallyman aka Draven and Link being rallied everywhere, Facebook and Twitter included

When you take those two out of the equation, totals for next matches will be really sad. Draven fans, ralliers and stuffers won't be there, they haven't been in the previous 2 rounds, and there will not be such huges rallies for the next battles. Also add that the board and part of the site might be pissed because Allen just let a DDoS slide and that the rallies have talked about that DDoS attack (Making external voters more wary of this contest) AND the fact that tomorrow is not a Holiday (Although here in Spain I'm still on holidays, but some of my family memberd don't) and the votals could end up being really depressing

If Link keeps pulling this, this match might end with ~110k-115k votes, next matches I seriously doubt that they'll be able to reach even 75k
#236 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 6:00:15 PM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
Oh, so now you've gone from just shilling Allen to pretending that the tons of people who put loads of effort into making brackets without which the contest can't function, making match pics, making all these great resources, making the damn thing a success in the first place, don't matter.

Stay classy.


He can make his own match pics. We can't really make our own contests that would get more than a few hundred votes.

He really doesn't need us. He really didn't need to do a contest themed around a Board 8 contest, give high seeds to joke characters based around this board, or to even talk to the board about what was going on behind-the-scenes in today's match. Yet he did it anyway, and all people like you do as a result is s*** all over him.

He really doesn't need or want people like you around.
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#237 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 6:00:40 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
TsunamiXXVIII posted...

You seriously believe this? We saw this last round. They all just disappeared.

The fact that more of them are actually posting in our topics to troll us doesn't make them any less likely to disappear for the next 8 days!


No we didn't. We saw a huge amount of Draven stuffing and the same limited reddit rallying from r1

People going to twitter and facebook and stuff for not just Draven but Link should actually have some lasting effect, I think. Not a huge amount, but yeah.

Yeah, this has no similarity to Draven's earlier matches.

This one legit increased interest in the website.
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#238 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/2/2013 6:00:53 PM | message detail
really, i'm just confused by people acting like something terrible was said in there. we've said worse things about chicks in garbage cans or psycho women with knives and laughed about it. yet saying that a guy isn't doing his job right, saying he sucks, should retire, or the rest of those tame insults is enough? i mean i understand that he was frustrated that no matter the evidence he had he couldn't appease the board, but that's a given. nothing is conclusive in either direction so everyone will believe what they want to believe, it's all equally true.

instead of focusing on things that were equally true, he should've realized that ultimately the source didn't matter as much as the result did. the result is that Link lost 90 minutes of his best time. DDoS? maybe. cheating? maybe. but he lost that time and people want a fix.


yet he chose to instead get upset himself. maybe once he calms down, he'll realize that.
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#239 | SubDeity | Posted 9/2/2013 6:01:45 PM | message detail
Link is falling just short...he needs one last good solid boost to break through.
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#240 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 9/2/2013 6:01:51 PM | message detail
Link needs 63 votes to win.
In the last half hour, Link has cut 50 votes per update. At this rate, Draven wins by 493 votes.
In the last hour, Link has cut 46 votes per update. At this rate, Draven wins by 628 votes.
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#241 | AceWingsta | Posted 9/2/2013 6:02:36 PM | message detail
Link is putting up quite the fight.
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#242 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 6:02:40 PM | message detail
If some guy knocked on Bacon's door with a gun and threatened to murder his family, Wang would still think it was too tame a reaction.
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#243 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/2/2013 6:03:20 PM | message detail
Draven by the Hour vs. Link:

1:00 | 53.49% | +859
2:00 | 53.51% | +573
3:00 | 58.48% | +1050
4:00 | 63.51% | +1071
5:00 | 61.72% | +845
6:00 | 61.82% | +735
7:00 | 59.73% | +583
8:00 | 54.44% | +264
9:00 | 50.58% | +38
10:00 | 45.38% | -327
11:00 | 41.91% | -619
12:00 | 37.90% | -916
13:00 | 30.80% | -506
14:00 | 37.08% | -448
15:00 | 47.89% | -197
16:00 | 61.26% | +1190
17:00 | 59.58% | +874
18:00 | 39.38% | -1160

19:00 | 47.20% | -228
20:00 | 38.58% | -951
21:00 | 43.02% | -549

That's the most incredible shift ever.
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#244 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/2/2013 6:03:38 PM | message detail
I just made a new Twitter account as well. Linkfan1986. Gotta get the ball rolling on this.
#245 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/2/2013 6:03:59 PM | message detail
People like me? People who say positive things about Allen but also note the flaws? All I did was say that there should be an extension. Which there should be because, you know, the poll went down for 90 minutes.

And to say that a community driven event can function without a community is a farce.

I cannot believe the way you're acting right now. I'm just going to take the "he's a troll" advice to heart and ignore what you're saying, because it's pretty ridiculous.
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#246 | HurricaneManning | Posted 9/2/2013 6:04:20 PM | message detail
well i tweeted about half a dozen people and they all have pretty decent followers and all love Nintendo/Zelda. If even one retweets it might help. I did everything I could that is within the rules. Just have to hope for the votes to materialize in the next 3 hours or so
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#247 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 6:05:44 PM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
And to say that a community driven event can function without a community is a farce.


Which is why this will be the last contest we ever get, considering how s*** this community has become. Why would Bacon ever want to throw another contest after this s***? Even if he did it to drum up more traffic, it certainly wouldn't be for our benefit after how we reacted!
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#248 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 9/2/2013 6:06:14 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
The fact that Link will not die after all the crap today is unreal. Screw numbers, this is the most impressive loser of all time.


Amen.
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#249 | Ex-Kefiroth | Posted 9/2/2013 6:06:41 PM | message detail
Only a cut of 39 this update. get some rallies going, people
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#250 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 6:06:48 PM | message detail
AceWingsta posted...
Link is putting up quite the fight.

This really is like Frazier giving absolutely everything he had against Ali in the Thrilla in Manilla.

Interesting tidbit about that match - Ali's trainer said Ali was refusing to come out for the 15th round and going to quit on his stool because he was done, but Frazier's corner stopped the fight just before this happened.

Insane what-if's, just like this match - downtime and...well, all the rest.
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