Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1149

#1 | Dr_Football | Posted 9/2/2013 5:01:52 PM | message detail
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~*Character Contest Histories*~
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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

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~*Daily Vote Trends - An Explanation for Dummies*~
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~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
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~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.
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#2 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/2/2013 5:11:08 PM | message detail
Damnit, one of the newbies grabbed the 500th.

I was going to post "Welcome to the League of Link"!
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#3 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 5:11:11 PM | message detail
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#4 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:11:13 PM | message detail
The "rally" thread has fallen a spot, things might get more interesting soon.
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#5 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/2/2013 5:11:28 PM | message detail
Oh hai, 88-vote cut.
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#6 | FFDragon | Posted 9/2/2013 5:11:37 PM | message detail
I just woke up why is everyone saying Allen hates us now?

What did we do this time?
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#7 | Sorozone | Posted 9/2/2013 5:11:57 PM | message detail
Link still doing what he needs to.
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#8 | ZFS | Posted 9/2/2013 5:12:11 PM | message detail
I see Link has been putting on some hurt. Moving toward 43%!
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#9 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 5:12:11 PM | message detail
Link is just a beast. What a champ. He refuses to give up even when facing utterly, completely, and absurdly hopeless odds.
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#10 | Dabrikishaw15 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:12:40 PM | message detail
FFDragon posted...
I just woke up why is everyone saying Allen hates us now?

What did we do this time?


They think Allen is protecting Reddit.
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#11 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/2/2013 5:12:41 PM | message detail
I'll believe he has a chance if he gets to 43.
#12 | vcharon | Posted 9/2/2013 5:13:02 PM | message detail
Link is now down to 58 votes per update to get the win.
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#13 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/2/2013 5:13:05 PM | message detail
FFDragon posted...
I just woke up why is everyone saying Allen hates us now?

What did we do this time?


Some words were said that maybe shouldn't have been said.
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#14 | SubDeity | Posted 9/2/2013 5:13:06 PM | message detail
Check the last thread around 380 posts in or so. Allen rips into the board for hating on him when he was doing work on a holiday.
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#15 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:13:21 PM | message detail
I'm imagining Cloud in Link's position. Yeah, Cloud would have given up after about 5 minutes, with not another flicker of life out of him all day.
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#16 | KokoroAkechi | Posted 9/2/2013 5:13:29 PM | message detail
I just looked at the poll and did a double take. Holy crap
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#17 | Masato_Tanaka | Posted 9/2/2013 5:13:35 PM | message detail
**** yeah good call Dr Football on that YouTube link, god that was easily the best piece of music of the whole Mass Effect franchise.
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#18 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 5:13:38 PM | message detail
Dabrikishaw15 posted...
FFDragon posted...
I just woke up why is everyone saying Allen hates us now?

What did we do this time?


They think Allen is protecting Reddit.

More that he's being tricked by faked Reddit traffic that is actually stuffed votes.

Nothing wrong with him wanting Reddit traffic, that's the entire point of the contests.
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#19 | Mershaaay | Posted 9/2/2013 5:13:41 PM | message detail
Can someone quickly tell me the average update Link needs to pull this off?
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#20 | WellThoughtName | Posted 9/2/2013 5:13:46 PM | message detail
FFDragon posted...
I just woke up why is everyone saying Allen hates us now?

What did we do this time?


Gamefaqs crashed for 80-90 minutes, Allen said it wasn't a DDoS attack despite it happening right when Link was showing massive strength and was cutting Draven like crazy. Then the website came back up and Draven started dominating again, and Allen said those votals were legit.

People didn't believe it.
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#21 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2013 5:13:50 PM | message detail
I cannot believe that even at 3k down with four hours left, Link is still somehow in this
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#22 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 5:14:03 PM | message detail
FFDragon posted...
I just woke up why is everyone saying Allen hates us now?

What did we do this time?


Bacon said there was no vote stuffing going on, and that the downtime earlier today probably wasn't a result of a DDoS attack.

Naturally, because this board is what it is, people outright attacked him, making death threats and all sorts of sick s***. Bacon wasn't happy and basically posted in the stats topic telling people to f*** off.
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#23 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/2/2013 5:14:23 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
I'm imagining Cloud in Link's position. Yeah, Cloud would have given up after about 5 minutes, with not another flicker of life out of him all day.


And don't even get me started on Crono. He would have bent right over before it even began
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#24 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/2/2013 5:14:45 PM | message detail
Did Bacon actually post in the stats topic? I thought he only posted in the topic he made.
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#25 | sheridanmoviegu | Posted 9/2/2013 5:14:46 PM | message detail
FFDragon posted...
I just woke up why is everyone saying Allen hates us now?

What did we do this time?


Dismissed obvious DDoS attack as a coincidence (it stopped Link's rebound cold) and said that Draven's suspiciously high numbers afterwards were "legit." Basically, he has no proof and doesn't want to rock the boat.
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#26 | ZFS | Posted 9/2/2013 5:14:57 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Link is just a beast. What a champ. He refuses to give up even when facing utterly, completely, and absurdly hopeless odds.


#1
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#27 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 5:15:07 PM | message detail
Cloud actually *has* been in Link's position before - against Bandwagon Snake. It's not a perfect metaphor but the rough contrails of it are similar.
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#28 | LOLContests | Posted 9/2/2013 5:15:24 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
I'm imagining Cloud in Link's position. Yeah, Cloud would have given up after about 5 minutes, with not another flicker of life out of him all day.


http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=4573&num=2

I mean not even close to this, but pretty impressive all things considered.
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#29 | dethfdddddh | Posted 9/2/2013 5:15:30 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
FFDragon posted...
I just woke up why is everyone saying Allen hates us now?

What did we do this time?


Bacon said there was no vote stuffing going on, and that the downtime earlier today probably wasn't a result of a DDoS attack.

Naturally, because this board is what it is, people outright attacked him, making death threats and all sorts of sick s***. Bacon wasn't happy and basically posted in the stats topic telling people to f*** off.


There were no death threats. XII, Extha, Ulti and Rad Link acted like children, though.
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#30 | AceWingsta | Posted 9/2/2013 5:15:37 PM | message detail
From: sheridanmoviegu | #025
FFDragon posted...
I just woke up why is everyone saying Allen hates us now?

What did we do this time?


Dismissed obvious DDoS attack as a coincidence (it stopped Link's rebound cold) and said that Draven's suspiciously high numbers afterwards were "legit." Basically, he has no proof and doesn't want to rock the boat.


Link had high numbers after the downtime too, is that not legit?
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#31 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/2/2013 5:15:39 PM | message detail
FFDragon posted...
I just woke up why is everyone saying Allen hates us now?

What did we do this time?


We refused to believe him when he said that everything that's happened today was perfectly legit.

Granted, when Link starts making a comeback and then suddenly the entire site pretty much stops working, you can understand why we'd suspect shenanigans!

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=5253&num=3

Focus on everything from 12:16:03 to 13:51:04. The update times are both completely erratic (due to the updater not being able to draw from the actual site at the given times) and unbelievably small even for this contest's normal vote intake, much less a heavily rallied match like this one.
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#32 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:15:45 PM | message detail
Did Bacon actually post in the stats topic? I thought he only posted in the topic he made.

He posted, basically he's done and is going to visit some relatives.
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#33 | Lopen | Posted 9/2/2013 5:16:10 PM | message detail
Well I mean I'm kinda insane so I can see the inate skepticism in any analysis I bring forth

I mean my whole brand is about defying stats in the first place

I just find the idea of trying to find exactly where the rallied votes are going kinda fun. Like I may do this just to see how well Link turns the tables in those wonky updates just for giggles. And we can get the negative rally stats for the downtime? Doesn't that sound AWESOME?

TWISTS AND TURNS ABOUND in this match
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#34 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 5:16:16 PM | message detail
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
And don't even get me started on Crono. He would have bent right over before it even began


Crono would be losing to Shepard right now.
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#35 | xFieryFiendx | Posted 9/2/2013 5:16:27 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Did Bacon actually post in the stats topic? I thought he only posted in the topic he made.


Click on his user name and look at the topics he posted in. He did in fact post there, at around 6:50pm est. I really do feel bad for the guy. :(
#36 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/2/2013 5:16:46 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
FFDragon posted...
I just woke up why is everyone saying Allen hates us now?

What did we do this time?


Bacon said there was no vote stuffing going on, and that the downtime earlier today probably wasn't a result of a DDoS attack.

Naturally, because this board is what it is, people outright attacked him, making death threats and all sorts of sick s***. Bacon wasn't happy and basically posted in the stats topic telling people to f*** off.


Wait, really? Some of the attacks were that bad? All I did was call him lazy. Why'd he reply to my post?
#37 | TriforceKeyblad | Posted 9/2/2013 5:17:02 PM | message detail
Mershaaay posted...
Can someone quickly tell me the average update Link needs to pull this off?


He needs 58.1 votes/update to win.
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#38 | gearofages | Posted 9/2/2013 5:17:23 PM | message detail
SubDeity posted...
Check the last thread around 380 posts in or so. Allen rips into the board for hating on him when he was doing work on a holiday.


It's the biggest traffic day in six years. I would expect him to work today.
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#39 | ZFS | Posted 9/2/2013 5:17:23 PM | message detail
To be fair, people were being terrible. Allen's not a bad guy, he just can't handle methods some of these dudes use to vote stuff.
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#40 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 9/2/2013 5:17:29 PM | message detail
Link needs 58 votes to win.
In the last half hour, Link has cut 37 votes per update. At this rate, Draven wins by 950 votes.
In the last half hour, Link has cut 85 votes per update. At this rate, Link wins by 1188 votes.

Did I miss anything while I was gone.

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#41 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/2/2013 5:17:46 PM | message detail
Yeah I see it now. Sucks.
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#42 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2013 5:17:49 PM | message detail
I maintain my response was justified. Lies are generally bad.

But don't group Rad Link in with me. While he was on my side his response was far more measured.
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#43 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/2/2013 5:18:01 PM | message detail
I never acted like a child, lol people in this topic are so awful.
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#44 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 5:18:31 PM | message detail
Like none of you ever wanted a day off to visit family.

Especially on Labor Day.
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#45 | sheridanmoviegu | Posted 9/2/2013 5:18:43 PM | message detail
For the record, I never saw a single death threat.
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#46 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 5:19:30 PM | message detail
I'll back Ulti, he didn't post much and none of his posts were him acting like a child.

Ulti often comes off abrasive but there was none of that here. He was just pointing out the obvious.
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#47 | dethfdddddh | Posted 9/2/2013 5:19:34 PM | message detail
can we at least agree extha acted like a baby

Then again after his tantrum when Snake beat Sephiroth, it's to be expected.
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#48 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:19:42 PM | message detail
Like none of you ever wanted a day off to visit family.

Especially on Labor Day.


Literally one of the most useless holidays of the year, it's there so we can have a holiday.
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#49 | turbopuns | Posted 9/2/2013 5:19:44 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Link is just a beast. What a champ. He refuses to give up even when facing utterly, completely, and absurdly hopeless odds.


"Hero of Time"
#50 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 5:19:57 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
I never acted like a child, lol people in this topic are so awful.


Says the man who made death threats just because a match didn't go his way.
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