Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1148: StuffingFAQs

#401 | SubDeity (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/2/2013 4:47:25 PM | message detail
Twitter rally already dying off, but hey, that's probably ~300 or so votes we wouldn't have otherwise.

Also Draven is weaker than ever as this rally dies off.
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#402 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/2/2013 4:47:29 PM | message detail
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#403 | vcharon | Posted 9/2/2013 4:47:40 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Let's say Link keeps consistently cutting 100+. Let's say 105 per update. Does he take the lead?


Easily. He only needs about 60 per update to win.
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#404 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:48:51 PM | message detail | (edited)
Let's say Link keeps consistently cutting 100+. Let's say 105 per update. Does he take the lead?

In about 2.5 hours
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#405 | TriforceKeyblad | Posted 9/2/2013 4:47:54 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Let's say Link keeps consistently cutting 100+. Let's say 105 per update. Does he take the lead?


Yes, he only needs 60 votes/update to win.
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#406 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 4:48:21 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Let's say Link keeps consistently cutting 100+. Let's say 105 per update. Does he take the lead?


Till NExt match? obviously. He'll have over 1000 vote lead too.
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#407 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/2/2013 4:48:23 PM | message detail
Link is nearing what he was at before the downtime/stuff/rally three-punch hit back.
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#408 | GloriousSweater | Posted 9/2/2013 4:48:57 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Let's say Link keeps consistently cutting 100+. Let's say 105 per update. Does he take the lead?


Yes. He only needs to cut an average of 60 to tie this thing by the end. It's EXTREMELY unlikely to assume he'll maintain this torrid pace, but he could end up just winning. It's also very likely that he'll end up just losing by enough to make the 90 minute site shutdown an even bigger deal than it already is.
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#409 | Xuxon | Posted 9/2/2013 4:49:00 PM | message detail
From: red sox 777 | Posted: 9/2/2013 7:45:14 PM | #388
Link/Cloud always draws the votes, regardless of who wins. In 2003, recall, Cloud had beaten Link at votals pretty much every round- one of the signs that predicted his victory. As for L-Block, I'd credit L-Block for the elevated votals rather than Link. Link didn't even beat Cloud by all that much.

Link faced other Nintendo characters every round except Magus before the Cloud match in 2003, it makes sense that Cloud would outdraw him even without being stronger.
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#410 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 4:49:12 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Let's say Link keeps consistently cutting 100+. Let's say 105 per update. Does he take the lead?

He can't. For one thing vote totals will die off slowly from now to the end of the match.

For another, the stuffer will wake up if this becomes truly threatening.

Match is over...though if Link can get this down to 2000 that would be very impressive.

If he gets it down to 1500 (highly unlikely IMO), people are going to go nuts because of the downtime issue.
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#411 | Mannequin Depressive | Posted 9/2/2013 4:49:20 PM | message detail
wait... someone on that twitter link said that reddit crashed gamefaqs earlier to stop him from getting votes? is that true? i assumed the site just went down for whatever reason
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#412 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:49:22 PM | message detail
Link is 2, maybe even 1, update away from getting the lead down the farthest it's been all day.
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#413 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/2/2013 4:49:29 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Let's say Link keeps consistently cutting 100+. Let's say 105 per update. Does he take the lead?


lol if he cuts 1200 votes an hour he'll have the lead by 11.

And then ALL HELL will break loose. Doubt that happens though, Draven has been much more effective at cheating today.

That DDOS -- erm, "down time that was completely a coincidence and did not affect the match at all" -- completely screwed this match.
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#414 | GloryChaos | Posted 9/2/2013 4:50:14 PM | message detail
Shepard's vote total is rivaling that of Ryu in Draven's last match.
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#415 | wedgeskywalker9 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:50:32 PM | message detail
Mannequin Depressive posted...
wait... someone on that twitter link said that reddit crashed gamefaqs earlier to stop him from getting votes? is that true? i assumed the site just went down for whatever reason


Ignore those people. They have tinfoil hats stapled to their heads.
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#416 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 4:50:42 PM | message detail
Link/Cloud brings in the votes, but not like Link losing. I know our sample size is damn small because he never loses, but look at Link/Cloud 2k3 in the context of that contest. Closest competitor is, what, Mario/Crono 2k3, and then... Cloud/Sephiroth 2k3 (where Cloud was probably being revenge-voted to all hell). Same thing with L-Block/Link/Cloud/Snake, and then... today. Link has over 43,000 votes right now. Our last night match (Zelda/DK/Charizard) plus our last day match (Mario/Crono/X) comes in at just over 60,000 votes.

Link could come in close to our entire last day of votes by himself. I give up completely - he can't lose to a normal character, no matter how weak he's become.
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#417 | Ex-Kefiroth | Posted 9/2/2013 4:50:54 PM | message detail
3000 VOTE BARRIER BREACHED...again
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#418 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/2/2013 4:51:11 PM | message detail
With everything that happened there, it took Link exactly 1:50 to cut the lead from 4K to 3K. At that pace, he would need 5:30 left in the poll to win, falling 20 minutes short.

Oh this is gonna be good.
#419 | shane15 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:51:12 PM | message detail
Never played Mass Effect but let's hear it for the main man toasty! AKA Shepard for being a good sport.
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#420 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 4:51:18 PM | message detail
I'd laugh if it comes down to the 90 minute downtime.

If people weren't so dickish to Bacon, maybe he'd have reran it!
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#421 | z0mgthiefbeef | Posted 9/2/2013 4:51:28 PM | message detail
Looks like another downtime will happen soon conveniently for Draven
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#422 | Sorozone | Posted 9/2/2013 4:51:32 PM | message detail
Back under 3,000. That rally is really slowing down now though.
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#423 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:52:23 PM | message detail
Almost at the lowest point.


So does anyone not rank this match number 1 so far this contest?
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#424 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 4:52:23 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Let's say Link keeps consistently cutting 100+. Let's say 105 per update. Does he take the lead?


lol if he cuts 1200 votes an hour he'll have the lead by 11.

And then ALL HELL will break loose. Doubt that happens though, Draven has been much more effective at cheating today.

That DDOS -- erm, "down time that was completely a coincidence and did not affect the match at all" -- completely screwed this match.

I find it absolutely astonishing that there are people who take Allen's hand wave of the DDOS seriously.

Then right after the DDOS Draven coincidentally goes berserk. Yet people still say it's legit. People really confuse me sometimes :\
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#425 | Kibago | Posted 9/2/2013 4:53:34 PM | message detail
/3000, again...
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#426 | vcharon | Posted 9/2/2013 4:53:39 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Almost at the lowest point.


So does anyone not rank this match number 1 so far this contest?


Only if Link wins.
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#427 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/2/2013 4:53:41 PM | message detail
Mannequin Depressive posted...
wait... someone on that twitter link said that reddit crashed gamefaqs earlier to stop him from getting votes? is that true? i assumed the site just went down for whatever reason


it's unknown.
data the gamefaqs admin showed did suggest that while it could be a ddos, it could also not have been one. but many people believe that it was due to the timing of it - Link was cutting into votes hard at his best time, so he lost 90 minutes of his best vote time period.

for that reason, some believe that there was a ddos attack.
it COULD have been a really, really awkward coincidence. but either way, Link lost 90 minutes of votes he'll never get back.
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#428 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/2/2013 4:53:52 PM | message detail
As long as Link keeps it above 60ish votes an update...the dream lives.
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#429 | DpObliVion | Posted 9/2/2013 4:53:57 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Almost at the lowest point.


So does anyone not rank this match number 1 so far this contest?


Does anyone not rank this match number 1 all-time?
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#430 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:54:22 PM | message detail
Link/Cloud outdraws everything else in every year. 2003 had uncommonly high votals, so it was one of the highest drawing Link/Cloud matches. Plus, both Link and Cloud were absolutely beastly, both in percentages and for drawing votes. I'm not seeing any match in which Link pulled out hordes of reinforcements, except today. Which has excellent reasons for it.
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#431 | mumbo230 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:54:26 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Almost at the lowest point.


So does anyone not rank this match number 1 so far this contest?

Charizard beating Zelda by 15 votes was pretty damn amazing, but yeah, nothing on this.
#432 | dethfdddddh | Posted 9/2/2013 4:54:37 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Let's say Link keeps consistently cutting 100+. Let's say 105 per update. Does he take the lead?


lol if he cuts 1200 votes an hour he'll have the lead by 11.

And then ALL HELL will break loose. Doubt that happens though, Draven has been much more effective at cheating today.

That DDOS -- erm, "down time that was completely a coincidence and did not affect the match at all" -- completely screwed this match.

I find it absolutely astonishing that there are people who take Allen's hand wave of the DDOS seriously.

Then right after the DDOS Draven coincidentally goes berserk. Yet people still say it's legit. People really confuse me sometimes :\


you are far more trustworthy than allen on this matter after all
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#433 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 4:55:19 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Link could come in close to our entire last day of votes by himself. I give up completely - he can't lose to a normal character, no matter how weak he's become.

Without the foreign threat of Draven though, Link would not have this rally power.

He was still the villain, and an unfavorable finals - Link/Snake/(Mario/Samus) would very likely have gone Snake's way.

Link went from the weakest he's ever been, to the strongest he's ever been, two hours into the X/Ryu match. Justl like that, those two hours supercharged his strength to heretofore unseen levels.
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#434 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/2/2013 4:55:23 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Almost at the lowest point.


So does anyone not rank this match number 1 so far this contest?


If Link loses by <1000 votes then this will be the worst match of the contest. It would make the entire thing a colossal waste of energy and leave such a sick feeling behind.
#435 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:55:39 PM | message detail
Does anyone not rank this match number 1 all-time?

I'll need to calm down to judge it, but easily in the top 10.
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#436 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/2/2013 4:55:41 PM | message detail
Vivi is still the best match of the contest because that one actually panned out.
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#437 | 2Dover3D | Posted 9/2/2013 4:55:49 PM | message detail
Watch Link get this down to like 500 votes by the end... which'll mean the downtime likely lost it for him
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#438 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 4:56:19 PM | message detail
Link to gain 500 votes last update.

Calling it.

I don't even think Allen would give a **** if it was stuffing. he'll just end the match then and there. Link.Always.Wins.
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#439 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:56:33 PM | message detail
If Link wins, this is one of the all-time great matches. If Draven wins, this is the match that quite possibly strikes the death blow to contests.
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#440 | TriforceKeyblad | Posted 9/2/2013 4:56:35 PM | message detail
97 vote cut! Keep it up Link!
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#441 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:56:39 PM | message detail
Okay Link now into uncharted territory
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#442 | Ex-Kefiroth | Posted 9/2/2013 4:56:53 PM | message detail
Link still chipping away at Draven
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#443 | Kibago | Posted 9/2/2013 4:57:02 PM | message detail
good, good
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#444 | Whiskey_Nick | Posted 9/2/2013 4:57:10 PM | message detail
again, anything within 2000 votes could be called for the downtime.

Link was getting votes at a stupid pace then
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#445 | LOLContests | Posted 9/2/2013 4:57:21 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Link/Cloud outdraws everything else in every year. 2003 had uncommonly high votals, so it was one of the highest drawing Link/Cloud matches. Plus, both Link and Cloud were absolutely beastly, both in percentages and for drawing votes. I'm not seeing any match in which Link pulled out hordes of reinforcements, except today. Which has excellent reasons for it.


This. Someone did the numbers once years ago, and Link/Cloud 2004 was actually a bigger vote draw when compared with the rest of their respective contests.
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#446 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 4:57:25 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Vivi is still the best match of the contest because that one actually panned out.


Yeah but hat was due to Vivi being a great character from a respectable game on this site. Him upsetting mario was the best result for the contest. That with Squall beating a joke pokemon.
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#447 | latiasz | Posted 9/2/2013 4:57:29 PM | message detail
Can anyone contact nintendo to get this on their twitter/facebook?
#448 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 4:57:35 PM | message detail
dethfdddddh posted...
you are far more trustworthy than allen on this matter after all


Allen's word is crap compared to meaningless speculation and analysis by Lopen.
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#449 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 4:57:46 PM | message detail
Whiskey_Nick posted...
again, anything within 2000 votes could be called for the downtime.

Link was getting votes at a stupid pace then

2000 votes is bit of a stretch...1000 votes is a lock, something just below 1500 is probably our best estimate.
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#450 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/2/2013 4:57:49 PM | message detail
Wanglicious posted...
Mannequin Depressive posted...
wait... someone on that twitter link said that reddit crashed gamefaqs earlier to stop him from getting votes? is that true? i assumed the site just went down for whatever reason


it's unknown.
data the gamefaqs admin showed did suggest that while it could be a ddos, it could also not have been one. but many people believe that it was due to the timing of it - Link was cutting into votes hard at his best time, so he lost 90 minutes of his best vote time period.

for that reason, some believe that there was a ddos attack.
it COULD have been a really, really awkward coincidence. but either way, Link lost 90 minutes of votes he'll never get back.


We're fairly sure that it was someone from reddit, yeah. The so-called "admission", however, was one of our own trying to plant false evidence.
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