Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1148: StuffingFAQs

#301 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:15:52 PM | message detail
No Link can still do it.
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#302 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/2/2013 4:16:04 PM | message detail
Qwaar posted...
So I take it this match is finished now?


...Yeah, it's finished.
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#303 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 4:16:08 PM | message detail
Everyone has bad ideas. Ceej did the Villains Contest and once proposed a Quotes Contest (though thankfully did not follow through with the latter).

Allen's had some good contests too, but they've been at their best when 24 hours and 1v1 (would you guys really want a 12 hour night match for FFX/MM?).
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#304 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 4:17:10 PM | message detail | (edited)
KanzarisKelshen posted...
The_Djoker posted...
OrangeCrush980 posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Well looks like this will be our last contest


Sadly it's likely we won't see another one for 3-5 years. We had to wait 2 years for this one, so it's clear Allen didn't think highly of them recently already. And now that we all exploded at him, this'll be it for a long time.


And nothing of value was lost. Character battles are terrible now. Game contests will still be a lot better because of the passionate fans.


You do realize LoL WILL make the contest, right? You thought Draven was strong, you're gonna have to wait until League of Legends goes out and makes a statement on some poor bastard in Round 1.


If it was 1v1, I'd take OoT to beat it even with it's dumbass Rallying and LoL game wouldn't be as strong as Draven since it's more about the game and not some bandwagon character.
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#305 | VideoboysaysCube | Posted 9/2/2013 4:16:25 PM | message detail
So I haven't been following this for the past few hours. How many votes per update does Link need to win?
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#306 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/2/2013 4:16:30 PM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
No Link can still do it.


Shh. Maybe if Draven's fans think he's won, they'll go away.
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#307 | LOLContests | Posted 9/2/2013 4:17:11 PM | message detail
Once again pointing out that Link doesn't have to win, just has to get to within 1,000 votes to force the idea of a rerun.
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#308 | Lopen | Posted 9/2/2013 4:17:43 PM | message detail
Villains contest was way better than Rivalry Rumble!

Though yeah that quotes contest that would be something else entirely...
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#309 | TriforceKeyblad | Posted 9/2/2013 4:18:13 PM | message detail
Then he falls back down again. He needs about 64 votes/update to win.
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#310 | Acerac | Posted 9/2/2013 4:18:27 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Well looks like this will be our last contest


Comically, the only ones we have to thank for that are the whiners who feel the need to insult the man running the show.

On second thought, that's more sad than it is funny.
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#311 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/2/2013 4:18:37 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
The_Djoker posted...
OrangeCrush980 posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Well looks like this will be our last contest


Sadly it's likely we won't see another one for 3-5 years. We had to wait 2 years for this one, so it's clear Allen didn't think highly of them recently already. And now that we all exploded at him, this'll be it for a long time.


And nothing of value was lost. Character battles are terrible now. Game contests will still be a lot better because of the passionate fans.


You do realize LoL WILL make the contest, right? You thought Draven was strong, you're gonna have to wait until League of Legends goes out and makes a statement on some poor bastard in Round 1.


If it was 1v1, I'd take OoT to beat it even with it's dumbass Rallying and LoL game wouldn't be as strong as Draven since it's more about the game and not some bandwagon character.


Except you're wrong. They're only bandwagoning the character because he's the only one who made it in.

If multiple LoL characters (that aren't Teemo, because apparently everyone hates him) get in next time, maybe it'll divide the fanbase and they'll be neutralized. Although it would be even better to divide them so much that no one could get in.
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#312 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 4:19:16 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
You're dense, aren't you? I'm telling joker to get his fictional character contest by making it. If I could get people onboard the rally to the point it went viral, he can do that too. It's not hard once you stop thinking and start doing!

If someone would hand him a site that gets six figure pageviews per day, I'm sure he could set up a fictional character contest just fine.

The_Djoker posted...
If it was 1v1, I'd take OoT to beat it even with it's dumbass Rallying and LoL game wouldn't be as strong as Draven since it's more about the game and not some bandwagon character.

Yeah, amazingly it is very likely Link would still win despite all this nonsense if it was 1v1.
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#313 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:19:23 PM | message detail
56.5 updates left. Link needs 64.23 per update. Well, crazier things have happened today.
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#314 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 4:19:45 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Everyone has bad ideas. Ceej did the Villains Contest and once proposed a Quotes Contest (though thankfully did not follow through with the latter).

Allen's had some good contests too, but they've been at their best when 24 hours and 1v1 (would you guys really want a 12 hour night match for FFX/MM?).


24 hours and 1v1 only works for a proper Games contest with elite top tier games no jokes or fodder. A character battle 1v1 doesn't work imo. Too much crap fodder and earlier rounds would take years.

As for Ceej..the villains contest came before a proper summer contest. Rivalry was the onyl contrest that year.
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#315 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/2/2013 4:20:38 PM | message detail
Villain's contest was just an excuse to retire Sephiroth from the following character contest anyway
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#316 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 4:21:51 PM | message detail
You could make a zero-fodder 64 character 1v1 bracket at this point in time. The problem would be not enough characters, not too much.

If you must have the first round be threeway 12 hour matches and then switch to 1v1 24 hours, but you've honestly got much more parity with characters than games.
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#317 | Heroic Viktor | Posted 9/2/2013 4:22:36 PM | message detail
If I am not mistaken, Allen collects a paycheck for this, as it is his job. I have a job. I am sure most of you do too. Ours may not involve having ornery customers who let you know exactly what they think (as a tax accountant, I hear it from clients a few times a year), but again, he is getting paid to do this. Part of his job is to run this site, and this contest, and uphold its rules. If he wants to come out and say the contest was solely for our benefit, and not part of his job, then fine, don't run anymore contests then. From what I can tell though, he was pubbing this contest on reddit for a while, so it would not appear it was solely for our benefit. Some of the comments and vitriol towards him was excessive, but for the most part I agree that is he giving politician answers. He's being noncommittal, and attesting to very little. Mostly, all answers are equivocal and open to interpretation. Love the contests, and this topic, but may have to retire from these things soon, as the unfolding of today has been less than stellar.
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#318 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 4:22:48 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
24 hours and 1v1 only works for a proper Games contest with elite top tier games no jokes or fodder. A character battle 1v1 doesn't work imo. Too much crap fodder and earlier rounds would take years.

People have proposed a 3-way first round with 12 hour matches, with 192 entrants. That gets culled to 64 the 2nd round. Which could also be 12 hour. Then 1v1 24 hour the rest of the way.

That's what...64 days? I might have messed up my math. Someone can correct it. But anyway it wouldn't take too long.

But it wasn't ever gonna happen anyway.
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#319 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/2/2013 4:24:47 PM | message detail
Heroic Viktor posted...
If I am not mistaken, Allen collects a paycheck for this, as it is his job. I have a job. I am sure most of you do too. Ours may not involve having ornery customers who let you know exactly what they think (as a tax accountant, I hear it from clients a few times a year), but again, he is getting paid to do this. Part of his job is to run this site, and this contest, and uphold its rules. If he wants to come out and say the contest was solely for our benefit, and not part of his job, then fine, don't run anymore contests then. From what I can tell though, he was pubbing this contest on reddit for a while, so it would not appear it was solely for our benefit. Some of the comments and vitriol towards him was excessive, but for the most part I agree that is he giving politician answers. He's being noncommittal, and attesting to very little. Mostly, all answers are equivocal and open to interpretation. Love the contests, and this topic, but may have to retire from these things soon, as the unfolding of today has been less than stellar.


No, that was a troll who's been using Allen's name for dumb rallies for a while now.
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#320 | tgs2 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:26:23 PM | message detail
All the stuffing aside, this turned out to be an all time classic. It just makes me think the b8 of today, while more chill, will be incredibly snarky and pessimistic towards any of the previous CJayC era close matches and call bacon out for doing a crappy job preventing all of the stuffing.
#321 | kurtfisto | Posted 9/2/2013 4:26:47 PM | message detail
well we broke 100000 i guess
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#322 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 9/2/2013 4:27:02 PM | message detail
Good lord, seeing the board for the first time since about 7AM PDT.

What...the holy **** happened around here.
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#323 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/2/2013 4:27:53 PM | message detail
_SecretSquirrel posted...
Good lord, seeing the board for the first time since about 7AM PDT.

What...the holy **** happened around here.


Manchildren happened.
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#324 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:28:18 PM | message detail
What...the holy **** happened around here.

One of the best matches ever.
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#325 | Kibago | Posted 9/2/2013 4:28:47 PM | message detail
_SecretSquirrel posted...
Good lord, seeing the board for the first time since about 7AM PDT.

What...the holy **** happened around here.


people searching for an excuse to be ***holes
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#326 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 4:31:26 PM | message detail | (edited)
I'm done with characters unless fictionals are in anyway. Lets be honest, we want link to win because LoL reddit scum. All this joke rallies and joke voting for garbage like crapblock and missingno has ruined the contest anyway. I remember when finishing in the leaderboards back in 05 and 06. When actual statistics and predictions got you to the top. Now it's just a bunch of pokemon bandwagons and external sources messing up the contest. And it's not even legit characters either. If Batman got rallied by some comic book site then fair enough. He's an iconic character that people fel passionate about. This character is literally 3 years old and is basically a joke for a popular MOBA game. He will be forgotten when another LoL character comes in.
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#327 | TriforceKeyblad | Posted 9/2/2013 4:29:40 PM | message detail
Dang, 71 vote cut. If only Link could make these cuts consistent.
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#328 | WingerSupreme | Posted 9/2/2013 4:29:45 PM | message detail
Heroic Viktor posted...
If I am not mistaken, Allen collects a paycheck for this, as it is his job. I have a job. I am sure most of you do too. Ours may not involve having ornery customers who let you know exactly what they think (as a tax accountant, I hear it from clients a few times a year), but again, he is getting paid to do this. Part of his job is to run this site, and this contest, and uphold its rules. If he wants to come out and say the contest was solely for our benefit, and not part of his job, then fine, don't run anymore contests then. From what I can tell though, he was pubbing this contest on reddit for a while, so it would not appear it was solely for our benefit. Some of the comments and vitriol towards him was excessive, but for the most part I agree that is he giving politician answers. He's being noncommittal, and attesting to very little. Mostly, all answers are equivocal and open to interpretation. Love the contests, and this topic, but may have to retire from these things soon, as the unfolding of today has been less than stellar.


Here's where I disagree. He literally answered ALL of the questions (and gave us graphs for f***s sake) but people refuse to accept them. He's not being dishonest, people are just plugging their ears and screaming "LA LA LA THERE IS STUFFING LA LA LA DDOS"
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#329 | swirIdude | Posted 9/2/2013 4:30:21 PM | message detail
Now it's just a bunch of pokemon bandwagons

Wait, what? Other than Charizard beating Bowser, there were plenty of good reasons for those Pokemon to win they matches they did other than bandwagoning.
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#330 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/2/2013 4:31:14 PM | message detail
Link gonna give this one last run.
#331 | Ex-Kefiroth | Posted 9/2/2013 4:31:37 PM | message detail
whoa. link with yet another huge cut
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#332 | Sorozone | Posted 9/2/2013 4:31:48 PM | message detail
#333 | TriforceKeyblad | Posted 9/2/2013 4:31:57 PM | message detail
Dang. Link still has some fight left in him.
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#334 | Fenny | Posted 9/2/2013 4:32:06 PM | message detail
Big cut by Link. 162 votes
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#335 | RockMFR | Posted 9/2/2013 4:32:08 PM | message detail
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#336 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 4:32:08 PM | message detail
Crono, Yoshi, Sephiroth, Tidus, and Squall are all near-identical in strength, didn't you know
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#337 | Kibago | Posted 9/2/2013 4:32:14 PM | message detail
nice, Link!
that's 48% on Draven now, too
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#338 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 4:32:20 PM | message detail
TriforceKeyblad posted...
Dang, 71 vote cut. If only Link could make these cuts consistent.


He did. HE made 40+ cuts consistent for about 3 hours before some idiot started to take down this site and then respam rally threads
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#339 | WiggumFan267 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:32:30 PM | message detail
162 VOTE CUT


THIS IS IT


I HAVEN'T POSTED IN THIS TOPIC SERIES IN A YEAR AND A HALF
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#340 | Sorozone | Posted 9/2/2013 4:32:36 PM | message detail
So. Say Link loses by 700 or 800 votes. Do you say the downtime cost him the match?
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#341 | GaryOak151 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:32:45 PM | message detail
not so fast my friend
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#342 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:33:02 PM | message detail
162 vote cut. Link.......just won't give up.

That update was all Link. Jumped from 181 to 288.
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#343 | Whiskey_Nick | Posted 9/2/2013 4:33:08 PM | message detail
100% legit
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#344 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/2/2013 4:33:16 PM | message detail
Link is going to lose because of the downtime. And there will be chaos.
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#345 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 4:33:20 PM | message detail
Europe has gone to sleep and with it the dumbass LoL crowd.
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#346 | TriforceKeyblad | Posted 9/2/2013 4:33:26 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
TriforceKeyblad posted...
Dang, 71 vote cut. If only Link could make these cuts consistent.


He did. HE made 40+ cuts consistent for about 3 hours before some idiot started to take down this site and then respam rally threads


I meant now. Before the 71 vote cut, he made a measly 7 vote cut.
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#347 | WingerSupreme | Posted 9/2/2013 4:33:26 PM | message detail
Please don't let this end with a close Link loss. This needs to either end with Draven winning by 5000+ or Link winning.
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#348 | Whiskey_Nick | Posted 9/2/2013 4:34:09 PM | message detail
if Link had continued the pace he was going at for the entire 2 hours~ish that the site was down, he lost nearly 2000 votes in cuts.

He was on the warpath when the site went down
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#349 | Kibago | Posted 9/2/2013 4:34:58 PM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
So. Say Link loses by 700 or 800 votes. Do you say the downtime cost him the match?


definitely. anything under 1000 i think is pretty much a lock.
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#350 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:35:05 PM | message detail
Link loses with under 100 votes

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