Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1147

#151 | WingerSupreme | Posted 9/2/2013 12:52:56 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Ssliasil posted...
Reddit and 4chan F*** up another good internet thing.

I don't even blame Reddit for this. In all likelihood this is just one person or one small group of people.

Reddit is allowed to rally, nothing wrong with that.

But it's pretty clear their power was vastly overstated and that most of this was stuffing from the start.

If Gamefaqs had one rogue user, is it right to paint everyone their in a negative light? We had George Romero. He was not representative of Gamefaqs.

And I doubt this stuffer is representative of Reddit or LoL in general.


George Romero?
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#152 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/2/2013 12:53:13 PM | message detail
The most convincing argument for Draven vote stuffing has always been that the votals for the next match weren't impacted at all. You could see with Vivi, a true rally, that the next match started off on fire out the gate.
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#153 | Ssliasil | Posted 9/2/2013 12:53:15 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Ssliasil posted...
Reddit and 4chan F*** up another good internet thing.

I don't even blame Reddit for this. In all likelihood this is just one person or one small group of people.

Reddit is allowed to rally, nothing wrong with that.

But it's pretty clear their power was vastly overstated and that most of this was stuffing from the start.

If Gamefaqs had one rogue user, is it right to paint everyone their in a negative light? We had George Romero. He was not representative of Gamefaqs.

And I doubt this stuffer is representative of Reddit or LoL in general.


While I would tend to agree in most cases, when it comes to Reddit and 4Chan - it's a completely different story. Everything bad/annoying that happens on the internet ALWAYS and WITHOUT FAIL, it gets linked to both of those two sites.

The only purpose of those sites is to troll everyone else, it's quite stupid.
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#154 | ItGetsWorse | Posted 9/2/2013 12:53:29 PM | message detail
im317 posted...
you know someone should contact CBS about this. a site they own being attacked and taken down for 90 minutes is something they would be very interested in

also more from my DDoS guy

well, it would be fairly complicated to fake the votes for draven
ddos may have cuased the inital load balence issue


Gamefaqs represents like 0.00000000000001 percent of Viacom's revenue. They couldn't care less.
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#155 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 12:53:42 PM | message detail
Also,

Haha, creativename was wrong after all. Link can't accomplish s*** against Draven and his super-powered day rallies.
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#156 | Dark Silvergun | Posted 9/2/2013 12:54:03 PM | message detail
So, Draven is now winning updates since I was away for a bit.

Draven by +4,039 now.
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#157 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 12:54:12 PM | message detail
foxhead84 posted...
I've got to ask... What's the deal with the George Romero stuff???

He's the guy who stuffed for Kefka in the Kefka/Vercetti match.

I think that match has the record for most topics gone through in a single match.

Scarlettail posted...
I don't see stuffing here. This is just LoL. You're all seriously underestimating it.

No. Not even remotely.

Reposting this:

UltimaterializerX posted...
Topic views doesn't explain anything. Even if all 3600 people voted for Draven, and ALL of the ~20000 daily active LoL subreddit guys voted for Draven, and ALL of those voters asked 1 friend to vote for Draven, that's 47200 votes.

Those are also very, very liberal numbers. This is vote-stuffing.

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#158 | gearofages | Posted 9/2/2013 12:54:17 PM | message detail
Can't somebody stuff for Link? Who cares about ethics at this point.
#159 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 12:54:27 PM | message detail
Scarlettail posted...
I don't see stuffing here. This is just LoL. You're all seriously underestimating it.


he's barely 8k votes ahead of Link. LoL isn't all that strong. Had this been 1v1 match Link would have won.
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#160 | ItGetsWorse | Posted 9/2/2013 12:54:55 PM | message detail
WingerSupreme posted...
creativename posted...
Ssliasil posted...
Reddit and 4chan F*** up another good internet thing.

I don't even blame Reddit for this. In all likelihood this is just one person or one small group of people.

Reddit is allowed to rally, nothing wrong with that.

But it's pretty clear their power was vastly overstated and that most of this was stuffing from the start.

If Gamefaqs had one rogue user, is it right to paint everyone their in a negative light? We had George Romero. He was not representative of Gamefaqs.

And I doubt this stuffer is representative of Reddit or LoL in general.


George Romero?


A user who made Kefka/Vercetti one of the best days in contest history
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#161 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/2/2013 12:55:23 PM | message detail
honestly if you guys are really upset about it, there's a simpler solution than everything suggested there:

just don't make pics.
it's a bit late into the contest yeah, but since he relies on B8 for pictures in the match, just... don't.
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#162 | Ssliasil | Posted 9/2/2013 12:56:08 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Also,

Haha, creativename was wrong after all. Link can't accomplish s*** against Draven and his super-powered day rallies.


Except Link was making huge huge gains before the likely DDoS attack. Then conspicuously began losing hard after the attack.
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#163 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 12:56:20 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
Scarlettail posted...
I don't see stuffing here. This is just LoL. You're all seriously underestimating it.


he's barely 8k votes ahead of Link. LoL isn't all that strong. Had this been 1v1 match Link would have won.

Yes, the hilarious thing is that dispite the cosmic level stuffing, the DDOS, and everything...if Shepard wasn't there Link would still have won.
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#164 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/2/2013 12:56:40 PM | message detail
#165 | im317 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:56:42 PM | message detail
ItGetsWorse posted...
im317 posted...
you know someone should contact CBS about this. a site they own being attacked and taken down for 90 minutes is something they would be very interested in

also more from my DDoS guy

well, it would be fairly complicated to fake the votes for draven
ddos may have cuased the inital load balence issue


Gamefaqs represents like 0.00000000000001 percent of Viacom's revenue. They couldn't care less.


its not about revenue, its about being attacked
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#166 | ZFS | Posted 9/2/2013 12:56:57 PM | message detail
What's the update? Link looks like he hasn't moved too much since I last checked. Guessing Draven had another 'rally' and benefited from the site being down.
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#167 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:57:11 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
The_Djoker posted...
Scarlettail posted...
I don't see stuffing here. This is just LoL. You're all seriously underestimating it.


he's barely 8k votes ahead of Link. LoL isn't all that strong. Had this been 1v1 match Link would have won.

Yes, the hilarious thing is that dispite the cosmic level stuffing, the DDOS, and everything...if Shepard wasn't there Link would still have won.

shepard the true villain of the contest all along
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#168 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 12:57:16 PM | message detail
Ssliasil posted...
Not_Wylvane posted...
Also,

Haha, creativename was wrong after all. Link can't accomplish s*** against Draven and his super-powered day rallies.


Except Link was making huge huge gains before the likely DDoS attack. Then conspicuously began losing hard after the attack.

He's a known troll, you don't need to white knight me from him :) No one cares what he says.
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#169 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:59:16 PM | message detail | (edited)
ZFS posted...
What's the update? Link looks like he hasn't moved too much since I last checked. Guessing Draven had another 'rally' and benefited from the site being down.

Bacon told us the site going down was (probably) coincidental and that Draven's votes are legit.
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#170 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:58:36 PM | message detail
Wow, this is ridiculous. Blatant attack on this site, this is a whole new level of brazen.
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#171 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 12:59:20 PM | message detail
Wanglicious posted...
honestly if you guys are really upset about it, there's a simpler solution than everything suggested there:

just don't make pics.
it's a bit late into the contest yeah, but since he relies on B8 for pictures in the match, just... don't.

I agree with this. This will help me out a lot when I submit six pics of Solid S*** to get him to lose to Kefka!
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#172 | Calintares | Posted 9/2/2013 12:59:38 PM | message detail
Would it be excessive to suggest a small boycott starting with no pictures for round 4?
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#173 | Kibago | Posted 9/2/2013 1:00:05 PM | message detail
Kefka using that Squirtle/Pikachu SFF to make the finals will redeem everything
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#174 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 1:00:14 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Wow, this is ridiculous. Blatant attack on this site, this is a whole new level of brazen.

Don't worry, this is a good result for Crono!

He's vindicated for Crono/Vincent 2 >_>
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#175 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/2/2013 1:00:43 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
Scarlettail posted...
I don't see stuffing here. This is just LoL. You're all seriously underestimating it.


he's barely 8k votes ahead of Link. LoL isn't all that strong. Had this been 1v1 match Link would have won.


But LoL IS very strong, considering its popularity. Perhaps some stuffing is going on.

Either way, I'd want the match rerun just because of the downtime, preferably at the end of round 3.
#176 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 1:01:11 PM | message detail
#177 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 1:02:57 PM | message detail | (edited)
How do you get to the poll from Google

edit-it means you get the main page and then vote? I guess
#178 | squall1981 | Posted 9/2/2013 1:02:48 PM | message detail
Scarlettail posted...
The_Djoker posted...
Scarlettail posted...
I don't see stuffing here. This is just LoL. You're all seriously underestimating it.


he's barely 8k votes ahead of Link. LoL isn't all that strong. Had this been 1v1 match Link would have won.


But LoL IS very strong, considering its popularity. Perhaps some stuffing is going on.

Either way, I'd want the match rerun just because of the downtime, preferably at the end of round 3.


I bet if link wins you won't want a rematch
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#179 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 1:02:54 PM | message detail
Scarlettail posted...
The_Djoker posted...
Scarlettail posted...
I don't see stuffing here. This is just LoL. You're all seriously underestimating it.


he's barely 8k votes ahead of Link. LoL isn't all that strong. Had this been 1v1 match Link would have won.


But LoL IS very strong, considering its popularity. Perhaps some stuffing is going on.

Either way, I'd want the match rerun just because of the downtime, preferably at the end of round 3.


I don't want the match rerun. But the bonus match should be Link/Draven end of this contest.
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#180 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 1:02:55 PM | message detail
And Link now officially receiving the worst beating of his contest career, assuming it holds to the end of the poll.
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#181 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 1:03:02 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
How do you get to the poll from Google

This is honestly my biggest question coming out of this.
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#182 | ShatteredElysium | Posted 9/2/2013 1:03:49 PM | message detail
The shenanigans aren't even the worst part. The quality of posts/topics that spring up as a result are atrocious. It's not even just the new posters that do it, B8 regulars are just as bad too.
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#183 | OrangeCrush980 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/2/2013 1:04:30 PM | message detail | (edited)
Blah, so it really is mainly Reddit traffic even after their rallies are mostly shut down? That's hard to believe. I bet the stuffer found some way to make it look like he's coming from Reddit.
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#184 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 1:04:48 PM | message detail
There is no stuffer.
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#185 | pipitahiguainn | Posted 9/2/2013 1:06:03 PM | message detail
If someone ralli on Korea about this, Draven rush to 99.9% in like 5 mins.
#186 | JJH777 | Posted 9/2/2013 1:06:09 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
There is no stuffer.


lol
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#187 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 1:06:16 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
How do you get to the poll from Google

This is honestly my biggest question coming out of this.


There are plenty of people that type GameFAQs into google and then click the link.

Yeah, I know.
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#188 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/2/2013 1:07:37 PM | message detail
Draven gaining at ridiculous levels now.
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#189 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 1:07:42 PM | message detail
The reddit traffic is coming from the stealth rally topic in the Hot tab.
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#190 | Kibago | Posted 9/2/2013 1:07:46 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
xp1337 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
How do you get to the poll from Google

This is honestly my biggest question coming out of this.


There are plenty of people that type every website they use into google and then click the link.

Yeah, I know.


fixed
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#191 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 1:07:58 PM | message detail
Rally topic 6th place
This is supposed to be decreasing,I don't get it
#192 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/2/2013 1:08:05 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
xp1337 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
How do you get to the poll from Google

This is honestly my biggest question coming out of this.


There are plenty of people that type GameFAQs into google and then click the link.

Yeah, I know.


Isn't one of the top 10 Google'd searches "Google"?

I'll believe it
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#193 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/2/2013 1:08:55 PM | message detail
So as we see, it seems to all be legitimate, and it just shows the power of LoL rallying.
#194 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 9/2/2013 1:09:01 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Rally topic 6th place
This is supposed to be decreasing,I don't get it


Link please?
#195 | ZFS | Posted 9/2/2013 1:09:11 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
ZFS posted...
What's the update? Link looks like he hasn't moved too much since I last checked. Guessing Draven had another 'rally' and benefited from the site being down.

Bacon told us the site going down was (probably) coincidental and that Draven's votes are legit.


You have to be kidding me. I would rather he say he doesn't care versus 'it's nothing guys, reddit is safe.'
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#196 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 1:09:17 PM | message detail
Also that "scary" LoL forums topic is like..5%?
ahahahahaha
#197 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 1:10:04 PM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Nanis23 posted...
Rally topic 6th place
This is supposed to be decreasing,I don't get it


Link please?


http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1lkzob/riot_if_draven_wins_gamefaqs_character_battle/
#198 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/2/2013 1:10:25 PM | message detail
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Would it be excessive to suggest a small boycott starting with no pictures for round 4?


really, you'd effectively leave matches to being with A) horrible pics from paulg that nobody likes or B) things that he'd have to make himself.

you won't ever get everyone to not submit pictures, but you guys missed the boat before on pic sabotage by not sticking with the idea after Vincent Wright.

but you could choose to just not do them. the biggest workload is offset to the board. if the board doesn't give it, he'll have to find it elsewhere and gets the message to not rely on us anymore only when it's convenient.
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#199 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 1:10:39 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Also that "scary" LoL forums topic is like..5%?
ahahahahaha


Could tip the scale considering how ridiculously skewed that traffic would be for Draven.

Not that I don't doubt there's some cheating, mind you, but there are still definitely some rallies active.
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#200 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 1:10:51 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
xp1337 posted...
ZFS posted...
What's the update? Link looks like he hasn't moved too much since I last checked. Guessing Draven had another 'rally' and benefited from the site being down.

Bacon told us the site going down was (probably) coincidental and that Draven's votes are legit.


You have to be kidding me. I would rather he say he doesn't care versus 'it's nothing guys, reddit is safe.'

I'm not! He's actually responded quite a bit too. We've even got graphs: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/67143451
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