Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1147

#51 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/2/2013 12:13:45 PM | message detail
SubDeity posted...
No way that explains these votes. We've seen forum threads get 7000 views and only produce 700 votes total. Draven must have sourced AT LEAST 1500 from somewhere. Along with the DDoS, that's why it looks so suspicious. No way everyone who looks in that thread is voting Draven. That's what this would take.

Well, keep in mind he's getting a base of 140 or so, so the rally only needs to be about half his vote intake.


No, his base without a rally is around 70, as seen in that table when the rally disappeared at around 12 hours in. Even the 140 updates were slightly suspicious, this IS cheating, no matter what Allen says.

Yeah, if Draven wins the contest I'm done. I know I won't be alone either. Honestly, I hope that (not me, the people who help out with the contest as previously mentioned) might persuade Allen to actually do something, since nobody believes him and nobody is happy about this. A bunch of people are going to quit if this continues.
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#52 | Averia | Posted 9/2/2013 12:13:49 PM | message detail
According to a friend, LoL is crashing and a lot of people are getting DCed so it might explain Draven picking back up...
Well there is probably some stuffing going on no matter what.
#53 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 12:14:24 PM | message detail
So who are we deciding to rally next round? Sephiroth? Sonic? Oof, Mewtwo & Kirby getting there would be disastrous.

Or are we giving up entirely in the face of the lol <_<
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#54 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/2/2013 12:14:43 PM | message detail
Topic views doesn't explain anything. Even if all 3600 people voted for Draven, and ALL of the ~20000 daily active LoL subreddit guys voted for Draven, and ALL of those voters asked 1 friend to vote for Draven, that's 47200 votes.

Those are also very, very liberal numbers. This is vote-stuffing.
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#55 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/2/2013 12:14:54 PM | message detail
JUST A COINCIDENCE NOTHING TO SEE HERE GUYS.

lmao
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#56 | Ssliasil | Posted 9/2/2013 12:15:09 PM | message detail
What's more likely?:--

1.) A Draven supporter from a site notoriously known for hacking and DDoSing, DDoSed the site just as Link was making huge gains...

or

2.) An annoyed Link fan DDoSed the site just as Link is gaining his strongest day boost?


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#57 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:15:16 PM | message detail
This constenst has been going on for 2 months,I think there was a 5 minutes downtime in a random mathc once..and that's all
Now a 90 downtime in the most important match is a coincedence?
Followed by a huge Draven spikes,no less
This is a joke

If anyone think we have no legitmate reason to be "salty" he can kiss my ass
#58 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/2/2013 12:15:19 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
So who are we deciding to rally next round? Sephiroth? Sonic? Oof, Mewtwo & Kirby getting there would be disastrous.

Or are we giving up entirely in the face of the lol <_<


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#59 | swordz9 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:15:29 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
So who are we deciding to rally next round? Sephiroth? Sonic? Oof, Mewtwo & Kirby getting there would be disastrous.

Or are we giving up entirely in the face of the lol <_<

There is no beating LoL between the massive userbase it has and Allen letting everything they do slide. All you can do is just wait for this sham of a contest to end.
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#60 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:15:33 PM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
Also I don't really think Allen has any reason to lie so whatever.


He has a vested interest in getting as much Reddit interested matches as he possibly can in this contest, it's bringing him tens of thousands of hits and potential new visitors. We all know he's made overtures to Reddit several times before, he desperately wants that audience. He has a huge incentive to overlook things that encourages them to continue coming here.
#61 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/2/2013 12:15:44 PM | message detail
Also, Draven started gaining again right when I woke up and Link started cutting shortly after I went to bed.

I guess I need to go back to sleep.
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#62 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:15:55 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
So who are we deciding to rally next round? Sephiroth? Sonic? Oof, Mewtwo & Kirby getting there would be disastrous.

Or are we giving up entirely in the face of the lol <_<

I think I'm pretty much done.

Well, we've still got Sephiroth's match. I guess.

...

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#63 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2013 12:16:03 PM | message detail
LoL can't be beat. They clearly want it more even than we do if they're prepared to DDOS THE SITE.
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#64 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:16:22 PM | message detail
A question too.Why people call him Draaaaaaaaaaven sometimes?I mean he does say that in game?
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#65 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 12:16:24 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
So who are we deciding to rally next round? Sephiroth? Sonic? Oof, Mewtwo & Kirby getting there would be disastrous.

Or are we giving up entirely in the face of the lol <_<


BIG BOSS


No dammit I will rally AGAINST a Big Boss/Snake/Samus finals
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#66 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:17:01 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
So who are we deciding to rally next round? Sephiroth? Sonic? Oof, Mewtwo & Kirby getting there would be disastrous.

Or are we giving up entirely in the face of the lol <_<


/v/ will support Sanic, he's the best chance.
#67 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/2/2013 12:17:41 PM | message detail
Oh right, I forgot about the future implications of that.

Go for Sonic then. He could possibly leech Samus...?
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#68 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 12:17:41 PM | message detail
Wait, LoL is going down now? Just as a rally on the official LoL forums is taking off?

I honestly believe this is simply the worst set of coincidences we've seen. Poor Bacon, nobody's going to believe him, even though he's likely right.
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#69 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 12:18:13 PM | message detail
Yes, we need to rally for Big Boss in that match!
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#70 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 12:18:37 PM | message detail
I'm sorry, but if anyone thinks this is forum rallying, LoL servers crashing, or whatever, they are naive as f***.

This is the most blatant cheating in history. Nothing is even close.

UltimaterializerX posted...
Topic views doesn't explain anything. Even if all 3600 people voted for Draven, and ALL of the ~20000 daily active LoL subreddit guys voted for Draven, and ALL of those voters asked 1 friend to vote for Draven, that's 47200 votes.

Those are also very, very liberal numbers. This is vote-stuffing.

Yes.
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#71 | LOLContests | Posted 9/2/2013 12:18:37 PM | message detail
That DDoS response is eye-rolling.

That being said, while Lopen's numbers are extremely suspicious, if Bacon can't technologically prove the votes are stuffed, I don't know what he's supposed to do. You can't remove votes because they seem suspicious. You have to prove they're being stuffed.

That also being said, if this is even within 1,000 or so votes at the end, the poll should definitely be rerun. Even if it was GameFAQS itself that ****ed up, so? The site's ****ed up before and poll's have been rerun, even Xenogears/Pokemon where a rerun wasn't even necessary.


That also being said, as stupid as the DDoS explanation is if this latest surge for Draven keeps up it wouldn't have mattered.
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#72 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:18:59 PM | message detail
Averia posted...
According to a friend, LoL is crashing and a lot of people are getting DCed so it might explain Draven picking back up...
Well there is probably some stuffing going on no matter what.


Hey,I play LoL
I know that when the servers are down,the forums are full of topics about it
There is no such a thing

..I went to check and found this
2 Minutes ago
Great
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#73 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/2/2013 12:19:43 PM | message detail
Re-run this match?

I don't know if we can handle another 24 hours of this!
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#74 | rpgsruleall | Posted 9/2/2013 12:19:56 PM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
A question too.Why people call him Draaaaaaaaaaven sometimes?I mean he does say that in game?


Yeah, he does. He also says "Welcome to the League of Draven".
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#75 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/2/2013 12:20:42 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
So who are we deciding to rally next round? Sephiroth? Sonic? Oof, Mewtwo & Kirby getting there would be disastrous.

Or are we giving up entirely in the face of the lol <_<


I want Mewtwo and Kirby to win just because I prefer them. There's no beating LoL, and at this point the rest of the results are just for fun.
#76 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 12:21:17 PM | message detail | (edited)
I have to imagine that whether it's cheating or not that Bacon isn't going to look into it. Not when the entire point of this contest was to rig a match for Link to lose in the first place.
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#77 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:20:54 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Re-run this match?

I don't know if we can handle another 24 hours of this!

Yeah, time to let this contest end guys.

Link tried. We all tried!
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#78 | Kibago | Posted 9/2/2013 12:21:35 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
So who are we deciding to rally next round? Sephiroth? Sonic? Oof, Mewtwo & Kirby getting there would be disastrous.

Or are we giving up entirely in the face of the lol <_<


Sonic's internet fanbase is huge.
I'm just not sure how you rally, say, a bunch of people on Deviantart. i think the hope is that 4chan goes all-out for Sonic against FF7 and LoL.
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#79 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 12:22:55 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I have to imagine that whether it's cheating or not that Bacon isn't going to look into it. Not when the entire point of this contest was to rig a match for Link lose in the first place.

He'll look into it, and do absolutely nothing.

I can't believe this is really happening. The most obvious cheating ever, in the most important match of the contest, and it's going to be completely overlooked.

Link puts on the greatest performance of all time, and he's going to be Montreal screwjob'd.

Unreal. I don't see how people's interests in contests can be fully recovered after this.
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#80 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 12:23:27 PM | message detail
Link gave it a good shot, but he couldn't hack it to the pure rally power of Draven.

Too bad, so sad!
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#81 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:24:12 PM | message detail
I just hope that Sonic fanbase isn't like this of Pokemon

"What? why would I vote for Sonic?? he is not Tails! he is not furry enough"
#82 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 12:24:23 PM | message detail
Don't blame me, I voted for Shepard
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#83 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 12:24:30 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Link gave it a good shot, but he couldn't hack it to the pure rally power of Draven.

Too bad, so sad!

Keep trying to stir the pot. No one's biting, bro.
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#84 | swordz9 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:25:06 PM | message detail
This contest actually had some fun matches like Vivi's upset, but all this Draven/LoL/Reddit trash being allowed to pass is just sad. I don't even really care much about the contests since I've called them meaningless several times, but this one actually had some fun results until all the Draven nonsense. Even then the Draven stuff did have some hilarity like Kanz almost being banned, but man this is just downright pathetic.
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#85 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/2/2013 12:25:52 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Don't blame me, I voted for Shepard

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#86 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/2/2013 12:26:14 PM | message detail
123 vote gain.
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#87 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:26:39 PM | message detail
This isn't even Link going down
This is just Draven jumping up +100 votes per update than before the downtime
I don't even
Really
#88 | Kibago | Posted 9/2/2013 12:26:50 PM | message detail
it's not even attempting to look realistic now
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#89 | rh000001 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:27:39 PM | message detail
LoL community might be too large to beat when the entirety of it is rallying. And being that it's a PC game they're also probably the most likely fanbase to vote stuff.

Plus the site is down at the worst possible time and SB will likely do nothing about that or vote stuffing, and we know he intended to advertise GameFAQs on Reddit with this. With all that I don't really care about the character battle, not that it's mattered recently anyway. A rally your websites to link to GameFAQs battle isn't very interesting.
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#90 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 12:27:44 PM | message detail
287 vote update.

The stuffer is just laughing at Allen now. He has figured out Allen doesn't give a f*** and is just rubbing it in at this point. I bet even he never thought he could possible get away with anything this blatant.
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#91 | StarStormScream | Posted 9/2/2013 12:28:18 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I have to imagine that whether it's cheating or not that Bacon isn't going to look into it. Not when the entire point of this contest was to rig a match for Link lose in the first place.

He'll look into it, and do absolutely nothing.

I can't believe this is really happening. The most obvious cheating ever, in the most important match of the contest, and it's going to be completely overlooked.

Link puts on the greatest performance of all time, and he's going to be Montreal screwjob'd.

Unreal. I don't see how people's interests in contests can be fully recovered after this.


This right here for me. Unless he decides in the future to go the Gamespot route and just let registered users decide things (Unlikely. Needs dat traffic for dat money), I think this is where I part ways with this little hobby of mine. Not quite as fun anymore.
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#92 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 12:28:21 PM | message detail
Kibago posted...
it's not even attempting to look realistic now

Indeed. He's making no attempt to hide it, he's just going hog wild.
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#93 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:28:22 PM | message detail
Sonic is popular on /v/ and has a generally neutral like across everywhere, having him in between a Reddit fuelled Draven and a loathed Sephiroth who's only popular on gamefaqs who be absolute ideal rallying conditions.
/b/ would get involved if Reddit were winning, it would be carnage.

A lot more difficult to get numbers for Nintendo characters these days, no chance for Sephiroth.
#94 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 12:28:26 PM | message detail
Draven winning updates by 120 votes in Link's best time

looks legit to me
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#95 | sheridanmoviegu | Posted 9/2/2013 12:29:12 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Link gave it a good shot, but he couldn't hack it to the pure rally power of Draven's cheating fanbase.

Too bad, so sad!


Fix'd.
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#96 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 12:29:57 PM | message detail
I think either Sonic or Mewtwo could make a game of it, honestly. The main thing is making sure Kirby doesn't win his match or he'll sunder the rally potential.
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#97 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:30:05 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Draven winning updates by 120 votes in Link's best time

looks legit to me

2ds DEBOOST catching up to link

unlike with mario it took a while for voters to connect it to link
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#98 | raytan7585 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:30:35 PM | message detail
Jesus Christ, this board has gone monkeys.
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#99 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/2/2013 12:31:05 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I think either Sonic or Mewtwo could make a game of it, honestly. The main thing is making sure Kirby doesn't win his match or he'll sunder the rally potential.


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#100 | Kibago | Posted 9/2/2013 12:31:07 PM | message detail
I'd be curious to see what would happen to Sonic in the finals if he kills Draven for us. does he get a "gratitude bandwagon" past Snake and Samus? do revenge votes crush him? both?
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