Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1146

#401 | OmegaTomHank | Posted 9/2/2013 11:40:31 AM | message detail
Draven won the last update, giving more cred to the theory the DDoS was because Link.
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#402 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:40:48 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I was about to call the match for Link based on the ASV starting in 20 minutes... but it's Labor Day, isn't it? This is Link's peak.

holiday asv

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#403 | dethfdddddh | Posted 9/2/2013 11:40:57 AM | message detail
creativename posted...
Fr0zoN posted...
Draven stuffer is back then

Yup. I just read how the Reddit rally topic was deleted.

Yet Draven went from going even with Shepard to doubling and tripling him after the site came back online.

There can be little doubt now that this is stuffing happening, right now. Pretty much absolute proof here.

People owe Lopen apologies! They labeled him a "conspiracy theorist" and other such bullcrap.

Good job Lopen on your terrific analysis. Internet high five ^ !


Is there any way to confront Allen over his bungling of X/Ryu?
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#404 | LOLContests | Posted 9/2/2013 11:41:54 AM | message detail | (edited)
UltimaterializerX posted...
Largest successful comeback though, is Draven > Jak, right? Or Sonic > Crono?


Master Chief against Frog is the largest successful comeback since he did have the lead for a time, and Sonic's is the largest comeback by a match winner. Draven > Jak might be the biggest if you adjust for votals, although that's hard to do for that match as getting a 24 hour estimate is understandably hazy. Even if you do adjust for them I think that Axel against Frog might still be the biggest adjusted comeback of all time. This match will undoubtedly break them all though by every measure.

Edit: Or maybe not, based on the last 10 minutes :(
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#405 | RockMFR | Posted 9/2/2013 11:41:12 AM | message detail
uhhh.... WTF
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#406 | Achromatic | Posted 9/2/2013 11:41:16 AM | message detail
Link's assault has stopped.
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#407 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/2/2013 11:41:17 AM | message detail
The main rally thread was deleted. There's another one about the Character Battle though, effectively asking Riot for bribes. That should probably be deleted too.
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#408 | tgs2 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:41:25 AM | message detail
Wanglicious posted...
he still has a rally. i'm not sure why you'd think he doesn't.


Because the r/lol mods are starting to crack down on blatant rally threads.
#409 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:41:27 AM | message detail
"There are no stuffed votes in Link/Commander Shepard/Draven."
"But the issue isn't stuffed v-"
"Off-site rallies are legal. Please read the rules."
[Closes topic.]
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#410 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/2/2013 11:41:34 AM | message detail
Link might be done.
#411 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 11:41:38 AM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
If Link wins, I wonder if he will get a giant amount of anti-votes later similar to what happened after Sephiroth/Missingno.


No question that he will. This will be worse than missingno though. Hell, L-block could get a giant boost like in 2007.


L block isn't winning jack ****. This won't make Link get antivotes. He just saved this site from pathetic drones.
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#412 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:41:52 AM | message detail
This has got to be a nightmare for Bacon if Link can't win in spite of this.
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#413 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/2/2013 11:41:54 AM | message detail
Draven wins an update for the first time since 9:06 AM. That doesn't include any updates during the time GameFAQs was under a DDoS attack.
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#414 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/2/2013 11:41:59 AM | message detail
Hahahaha!

Draven's totally got this.
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#415 | TriforceKeyblad | Posted 9/2/2013 11:42:00 AM | message detail
Link is losing ground. No matter how you look at it, this is starting to look really suspicious.
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#416 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:42:08 AM | message detail
Wanglicious posted...
he still has a rally. i'm not sure why you'd think he doesn't.


This is not reeally a rally and it's at the 11th place
You need to scroll down to read it and it doesn't even link to the poll
#417 | hylianknight3 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:42:08 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
The main rally thread was deleted. There's another one about the Character Battle though, effectively asking Riot for bribes. That should probably be deleted too.


Yeah, that's basically a soft rally topic.
#418 | Qwaar | Posted 9/2/2013 11:42:20 AM | message detail
The downtime killed Link's momentum. This is a disgrace.
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#419 | WellThoughtName | Posted 9/2/2013 11:42:21 AM | message detail
Considering how terrible Draven has done before the down I wouldn't believe anybody saying it's not vote stuffing right now.

If they can't DDoS, might as well try something a tad more subtle.
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#420 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:42:48 AM | message detail
And out of nowhere,nowhere at all,Draven gains? ok
#421 | vcharon | Posted 9/2/2013 11:42:53 AM | message detail
He really just ought to be disqualified, wish Allen had the fortitude to do it.
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#422 | Fr0zoN | Posted 9/2/2013 11:42:56 AM | message detail
I mean when the original topic was going down the reddit page Draven was completely losing his way and getting destroyed. The current thread there which isn't anywhere near as obvious a rally as the old one is in about the same place but he's getting a ton more votes.
#423 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/2/2013 11:42:58 AM | message detail
That's it, cheating confirmed.

Allen, do something about this.
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#424 | WellThoughtName | Posted 9/2/2013 11:43:19 AM | message detail
Absolutely disgusting.
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#425 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2013 11:43:24 AM | message detail
Oh god
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#426 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 9/2/2013 11:43:29 AM | message detail
Hey guys, I think the RIot rally thread thing was deleted too. It's not showing on the main page anymore.

So... just where are these votes coming from?
#427 | dethfdddddh | Posted 9/2/2013 11:43:31 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
This has got to be a nightmare for Bacon if Link can't win in spite of this.


He deserves it after X/Ryu and not even responding to Lopen's data.
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#428 | rh000001 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:47:08 AM | message detail | (edited)
Reddit basically circumvented their rule about reposting by a new thread just discussing the contest and the top voted replies linking it. The thread has been at 11th for a while so it's hard to tell if it will lose steam or gain any momentum.
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#429 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/2/2013 11:43:57 AM | message detail
So Link's trying to mount a comeback to defend GameFAQs?

Let's see if GameFAQs can prevail in the war against Reddit.
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#430 | OmegaTomHank | Posted 9/2/2013 11:44:17 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
Two things:

First, Draven's vote totals are highly unusual, it looks like he still has a rally when he doesn't.
Second, without the DDoS Link probably would have been within 1700 of Draven at the point it ended. If this gets below that Link has won.

Basically, Draven is hyper suspicious right now.


How about Links obviously stuffed rally drastically halting post site crash?


Link is the suspicious one especially given his unprecedented total vote for this contest.
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#431 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/2/2013 11:44:19 AM | message detail
they're cutting down on rally threads, sure.
but there are still enough rally topics that it doesn't matter a lot. some a few hours ago, some half a day ago, they still are up. and you'd be assuming that reddit is the only place where the LoL fanbase unites. there's "enough" on reddit and there's "enough" in other places to make the loss of one major topic not matter anymore right now.
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#432 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:44:30 AM | message detail
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3827011

Oh well.
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#433 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 11:44:38 AM | message detail
This is the soft rally plus anti-Link bandwagoning plus a bit of variance. And probably some cheating too, sure.
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#434 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 11:45:17 AM | message detail
RockMFR posted...
A lot of Link's strength is coming from rallies. I think in further rounds, it's still anyone's game.


I thought it was because Xelda is more popular than anything else on this site?
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#435 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:45:51 AM | message detail
You know,if it turns out to be DDoS/stuffing (either can be,honestly a DDoS should disqualify Draven because Link got no reason to do this) there should be a rematch of Jak/Chie/Draven but replacing Draven with Beck (from Mighty no.9) because he CAN beat Jak and it would be hilarious to watch him SFF Mega Man X!
#436 | swirIdude | Posted 9/2/2013 11:46:03 AM | message detail
Crap, Draven's winning updates now.
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#437 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/2/2013 11:46:51 AM | message detail
Link's momentum is gone.

At this rate the DDoS won't even be relevant and Draven wins comfortably.
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#438 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/2/2013 11:47:11 AM | message detail
NO

Link has looked like Link. He has had very well established trends he has followed, and only a couple of unusual updates that could easily be random variation.

Draven on the other hand, just scored one of his best updates of the match even though his rally is gone, and he was much lower before this, outright sucking and losing to Shepard. Link is not suspicious, Draven is. They do not remotely compare.
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#439 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:47:23 AM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3827011

Oh well.


1861 votes max in 3 hours
Nothing too serious
#440 | rh000001 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:49:07 AM | message detail | (edited)
Went to 10th now, so we could be seeing another big rally along with possible stuffing. If Link is down at the time polls are supposed to end SB has to extend the poll however long the site was down, except the time it was down was a far better time of day for Link who was at his highest rate and the worst time for Draven because this new rally hadn't started and there wasn't even a thread on Reddit's front page.

And that thread on the LoL forum might also be getting more momentum. So that DDOS happened at the worst possible time for Link.
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#441 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:47:32 AM | message detail
I was actually wondering about this.

I mean, Draven could win through an honestly legit rally at this point and it's just the worst position.

Or it should be. I expect Bacon just lets the winner of this match through and tells us everything was cool though.
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#442 | raytan7585 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:47:40 AM | message detail
The only solution to stop this mess is to DQ Link & Draven and have Shepard to proceed.

But let Allen decides.
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#443 | swordz9 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:47:50 AM | message detail
Draven should seriously just be DQd even if it's just on the grounds of massive douchebaggery.
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#444 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/2/2013 11:47:53 AM | message detail
anti-link bandwagoning was him getting destroyed when we came back and the time right before that. >_>

it's still pretty much all rally.
(and cheating yes.)-
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#445 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 9/2/2013 11:48:06 AM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
Link's momentum is gone.

At this rate the DDoS won't even be relevant and Draven wins comfortably.


Link's still getting votes like a beast, it's just that Draven's votes have started rising from nowhere.

And it's not reddit.
#446 | Fr0zoN | Posted 9/2/2013 11:48:12 AM | message detail
Yep this is over for the 2nd time. I dont care what it is but at this stage there's just to much weirdness and cheating coming from Draven's direction that he should be dq'd whatever the result.
#447 | Xuxon | Posted 9/2/2013 11:48:50 AM | message detail
From: creativename | Posted: 9/2/2013 2:39:35 PM | #396
Fr0zoN posted...
Draven stuffer is back then

Yup. I just read how the Reddit rally topic was deleted.

Yet Draven went from going even with Shepard to doubling and tripling him after the site came back online.

There can be little doubt now that this is stuffing happening, right now. Pretty much absolute proof here.

People owe Lopen apologies! They labeled him a "conspiracy theorist" and other such bullcrap.

Good job Lopen on your terrific analysis. Internet high five ^ !

and this is exactly why i thought Link wasn't going to win, unfortunately
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#448 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:48:54 AM | message detail
Ten vote cut.

Yikes, that slowed down fast.

Well, Draven's got this one's all wrapped up. Consider it...


DDoS'd!
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#449 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 11:48:57 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
You know,if it turns out to be DDoS/stuffing (either can be,honestly a DDoS should disqualify Draven because Link got no reason to do this) there should be a rematch of Jak/Chie/Draven but replacing Draven with Beck (from Mighty no.9) because he CAN beat Jak and it would be hilarious to watch him SFF Mega Man X!


Or just Disqualify Both and let Shepard through.
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#450 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/2/2013 11:49:05 AM | message detail
It's silly to think anyone can beat LoL anyway. Just getting this close is amazing.