Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1146

#301 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:06:56 AM | message detail
gearofages posted...
http://redd.it/1lkzob

There is a link to the poll by "PotatoMashing" in this topic. Downvote it so that it will hide the comment.


This is pretty smart
He hid the rally here pretty well
#302 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:07:03 AM | message detail
Did you guys know that League of Legends has a Zelda homage as its ultimate item? It's called "Trinity Force". But this is no ripoff that Draven's against here - it's the real thing. Witness the power of the Triforce.
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#303 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 11:07:05 AM | message detail
Link's taking off like nothing ever happened.

What a nutso match.
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#304 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/2/2013 11:07:14 AM | message detail
The worst part about Draven is that he made everyone unite behind Link.

Now that awesome Snake > Link final is never going to happen
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#305 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/2/2013 11:07:28 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Actually
If it turns out that was a DDoS attack we really need to think of funny acronym for DDoS using Draven instead of the first D or something


Damn Draven on Site
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#306 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:08:48 AM | message detail
So why do people not want Draven to win this given that he can't rally again so we'd have a contest with several possible winners?
#307 | LOLContests | Posted 9/2/2013 11:08:59 AM | message detail
Looks like Duck Hunt's record will finally be broken, 9 years later.

Kind of loved that such an irrelevant match as Donkey Kong Vs. Duck Hunt held the record for largest comeback, but if match deserves to break it I guess it's this one.
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#308 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/2/2013 11:09:04 AM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
The worst part about Draven is that he made everyone unite behind Link.

Now that awesome Snake > Link final is never going to happen


Eh, if Link faces Kirby or a Pokemon next, I'll abandon him quickly. The goal isn't for him to win the contest. It's just to win this match.
#309 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:10:25 AM | message detail | (edited)
I mean Draven seems to still be holding around 150 votes per update. We saw what happened when the rallies were gone and this wasn't it!

i could be missing updates though i guess. i'm totally out of rhythm following that.
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#310 | im317 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:09:09 AM | message detail
after that DDoS Allen should be praying Link wins. also is it me or is the site still a little sluggish?
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#311 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/2/2013 11:09:19 AM | message detail
Link is only cutting 70 votes every 5 minutes, which has the potential to be close at the end.

Meaning if this is close and Allen doesn't DQ Draven, Draven will advance entirely because of a DDOS. That would be far worse than any of the crap Ceej pulled back in the day.
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#312 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:09:49 AM | message detail
lightning-02 posted...
So why do people not want Draven to win this given that he can't rally again so we'd have a contest with several possible winners?


I don't think that anyone supports Draven anymore after what just happened 20 minutes ago
#313 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/2/2013 11:10:17 AM | message detail
im317 posted...
after that DDoS Allen should be praying Link wins. also is it me or is the site still a little sluggish?


Yes.
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#314 | ChenKenichiFan (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/2/2013 11:10:43 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
xp1337 posted...
Is it just me or is Draven hanging around his rally level of votals?

I mean, Link just gives no ****s, but I'm finding that a bit weird!


No, his rally level of votals would be quite higher. Maybe his *night* rally total, which is naturally lower due to the low incoming amount of votes.

Draven is overperforming without a rally though, you are correct. The updates that he is pulling on Link are nothing in the realm of 'losing with 37% on Chie Satonaka'. There are still a lot of GameFAQs voters who are seeing that Link has a chance to lose and bandwagoning him. His base strength is just too low for him to pull a natural Snake-level bandwagon (2008 Snake wouldn't have lost this lead).


That's the point I was trying to make before the site was shut down. If this is "Base Draven," then Draven's GameFAQs Base has increased by a HELL of a lot between rounds. He's still beating Shepard quite easily when Shep should be kicking the ever-loving crap out of him. This natural GameFAQs boost isn't because the GameFAQs population have suddenly discovered LoL or fallen in love with Draven - it's because someone has a chance to defeat Link. An unknown nobody (in the eyes of this site) is getting an insane natural boost because he seemingly posed a threat to Link.

The Hylian Hammer is still the big favorite to take this contest, but based on what we're seeing right now, I have to give Snake a non-negligible shot at the upset.
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#315 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:10:43 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
lightning-02 posted...
So why do people not want Draven to win this given that he can't rally again so we'd have a contest with several possible winners?


I don't think that anyone supports Draven anymore after what just happened 20 minutes ago


Who cares he'd lose next round, guaranteed.
#316 | abdou | Posted 9/2/2013 11:11:00 AM | message detail
Allen will never DQ Draven because he wants to please the reddit ****s
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#317 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/2/2013 11:11:04 AM | message detail
That one reddit topic is probably helping Draven maintain some of his rally strength.
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#318 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 11:11:09 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
I mean Draven seems to still be holding around 150 votes per update. We saw what happened when the rallies were gone and this wasn't it!

i could be missing updates though i guess. i'm totally out of rhythm following that.


He's still getting a minor burst from a hot LoL subreddit thread. Most of his 'innate' strength right now though is coming from anti-Link bandwagoners.
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#319 | ChenKenichiFan (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/2/2013 11:11:26 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
xp1337 posted...
Is it just me or is Draven hanging around his rally level of votals?

I mean, Link just gives no ****s, but I'm finding that a bit weird!


No, his rally level of votals would be quite higher. Maybe his *night* rally total, which is naturally lower due to the low incoming amount of votes.

Draven is overperforming without a rally though, you are correct. The updates that he is pulling on Link are nothing in the realm of 'losing with 37% on Chie Satonaka'. There are still a lot of GameFAQs voters who are seeing that Link has a chance to lose and bandwagoning him. His base strength is just too low for him to pull a natural Snake-level bandwagon (2008 Snake wouldn't have lost this lead).


That's the point I was trying to make before the site was shut down. If this is "Base Draven," then Draven's GameFAQs Base has increased by a HELL of a lot between rounds. He's still beating Shepard quite easily when Shep should be kicking the ever-loving crap out of him. This natural GameFAQs boost isn't because the GameFAQs population have suddenly discovered LoL or fallen in love with Draven - it's because someone has a chance to defeat Link. An unknown nobody (in the eyes of this site) is getting an insane natural boost because he seemingly posed a threat to Link.

The Hylian Hammer is still the big favorite to take this contest, but based on what we're seeing right now, I have to give Snake a non-negligible shot at the upset.
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#320 | jtwo22 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:11:26 AM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
The worst part about Draven is that he made everyone unite behind Link.


They tried to stop link from winning ,but might have made him more powerful instead. The ultimate backfire
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#321 | sheridanmoviegu | Posted 9/2/2013 11:12:28 AM | message detail
I don't mind Link not winning. He wins all the time. But not to freaking Draven. Not to freaking Reddit. So, obviously, you turn to your strongest horse in your race when it comes to situations like this, so you rally behind Link because he can win. So long as Draven is out of the contest I don't really care who wins at that point.
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#322 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:14:15 AM | message detail | (edited)
lightning-02 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
lightning-02 posted...
So why do people not want Draven to win this given that he can't rally again so we'd have a contest with several possible winners?


I don't think that anyone supports Draven anymore after what just happened 20 minutes ago


Who cares he'd lose next round, guaranteed.


For all we know it might be just one mod in the subbreddit that doesn't like mondays and next week Draven will rally like nothing happened
#323 | Kibago | Posted 9/2/2013 11:13:21 AM | message detail
338 votes cut in the last 20 minutes. good pace, Link.
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#324 | TriforceKeyblad | Posted 9/2/2013 11:14:59 AM | message detail
Link, if you win this, you will go down as a legend. No one will ever question you again (okay, they will, but you get the idea). By the way, what is the new votes/update for Link to win after this DDOS thing?
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#325 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/2/2013 11:15:16 AM | message detail
there is no guarantee over next round.
unless you mean that we'd get ddos'd again and lose 90 minutes.
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#326 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 11:16:14 AM | message detail
Snake can still give Link a scare but I doubt the upset is possible anymore

well as long as he can get past a random Pokemon anyway
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#327 | irriadin | Posted 9/2/2013 11:16:44 AM | message detail
Can someone update us on the amount of votes Link needs per update to win?
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#328 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/2/2013 11:16:58 AM | message detail
Almost passing 3000.
#329 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/2/2013 11:17:01 AM | message detail
keep seeing a lot of double/triple posts, that DDOS screwed with the boards somehow
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#330 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:17:15 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Snake can still give Link a scare but I doubt the upset is possible anymore

well as long as he can get past a random Pokemon anyway


just like in GoTD with Brawl, when all seems lost Link is there to save the day
sucks for everyone else that had a chance though
#331 | meche313 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:17:15 AM | message detail
Draven is steadily gaining votes. C'mon Link!
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#332 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 11:17:18 AM | message detail
OK - here's something I never thought I'd say.

Thank you Reddit.

Without them this would have been one of the worst contests ever. Most of this contest was awful (in large part due to them). The majority of the rallying was terrible and detracted from the fun.

But this Link match *made* the contest. Combined with the upsets like Vivi, this is now probably one of our two best contests along with 2K3.

So yeah. The stupid rallying - along with ridiculous LFF setups - almost ruined this contest. But Draven doing what he did in round 2, then Link proceeding to not give a f*** and well on his way towards laughing off a 6,000 vote deficit like it was nothing, was just unreal.
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#333 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/2/2013 11:17:24 AM | message detail
Link is only cutting 50-70 per update. That absolutely has the potential to slow down later.
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#334 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:17:25 AM | message detail
I believe Link must cut an average of 26.8 votes per update to win.
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#335 | im317 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:18:04 AM | message detail
i really don't get why people think Link will retain this level of power. no way anyone folds as hard as Shepard did here in the finals. Link is getting anti Draven/LoL/Reddit votes that will not be there after this, at least not as much
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#336 | swordz9 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:18:10 AM | message detail
I can't believe somebody seriously attacked the site over an internet video game character match. Draven is looking pretty bad compared to R2 so now that things are hopefully not going to go down again Link should demolish Draven with his day vote since Draven is normally weak as hell.
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#337 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 11:18:17 AM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
keep seeing a lot of double/triple posts, that DDOS screwed with the boards somehow

Part of it might be people trying to post, getting an error/lag and trying to post again.

In my experience, once you hit post the message will find a way regardless of what error or lag you're seeing, even if it seems like it shouldn't have. Easy way to double/triple post, I think.
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#338 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 11:18:23 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Snake can still give Link a scare but I doubt the upset is possible anymore

well as long as he can get past a random Pokemon anyway


IF Draven didn't exist then yes. I honestly think Links strength for the rest of the contest(should he win) will be way too strong.

IT's a real shame all the pokemon weren't in Links side of the Bracket. It would have been glorious watching him destroy them one by one.
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#339 | RockMFR | Posted 9/2/2013 11:18:30 AM | message detail
A lot of Link's strength is coming from rallies. I think in further rounds, it's still anyone's game.
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#340 | Denzokuken | Posted 9/2/2013 11:18:45 AM | message detail
Link looks like he is stuffing.
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#341 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/2/2013 11:19:22 AM | message detail
im317 posted...
i really don't get why people think Link will retain this level of power. no way anyone folds as hard as Shepard did here in the finals. Link is getting anti Draven/LoL/Reddit votes that will not be there after this, at least not as much


lol not THIS level. But he will be boosted no doubt. IF he had THIS level then he would double any other character.
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#342 | Brasen | Posted 9/2/2013 11:19:36 AM | message detail
Fixing to break the 3k barrier.
#343 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 11:19:51 AM | message detail
Also I'm way behind on catching up to this topic, and this probably was mentioned already - but if that really was a DDOS attack, then it strongly supports Lopen's analysis of mass stuffing in the X/Ryu match (and overnight in this match).

Because if someone (or multiple people) is capable of doing that, then no doubt they'd be capable of the massive stuffing too.

So to all the people who attacked Lopen for suggesting stuffing, if this was a DDOS attack, he was likely right.
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#344 | Fr0zoN | Posted 9/2/2013 11:21:12 AM | message detail
Yes if someone cares enough and has the ability to DDOS the site then it's certainly not out of the question that they could stuff votes. It's starting to make sense.
#345 | RockMFR | Posted 9/2/2013 11:21:25 AM | message detail
Halfway there!

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#346 | VideoboysaysCube | Posted 9/2/2013 11:21:57 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
xp1337 posted...
I mean Draven seems to still be holding around 150 votes per update. We saw what happened when the rallies were gone and this wasn't it!

i could be missing updates though i guess. i'm totally out of rhythm following that.


He's still getting a minor burst from a hot LoL subreddit thread. Most of his 'innate' strength right now though is coming from anti-Link bandwagoners.


Best way to counteract that is to upvote everything else.
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#347 | Whiskey_Nick | Posted 9/2/2013 11:22:03 AM | message detail
DDoS attacks are very easy to do actually.

Only takes one person with a powerful computer/server

or a few likeminded people.

We dealt with them in FFXI often back in like 2005
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#348 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 11:22:21 AM | message detail
Link always gets desperately rallied when threatened. It's part of his intrinsic strength, and has been before reddit ever came into existence. There's a reason why Cloud/Link 2k3 and L-Block/Link/Cloud/Snake 2k8 are such ridiculous votal matches, especially in the context of their contests.

Link will still have these rallies if Snake threatens him in the finals. He can't afford for Link's base strength to rebound like it has in this match.
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#349 | VeryInsane | Posted 9/2/2013 11:22:27 AM | message detail
If Link wins, I wonder if he will get a giant amount of anti-votes later similar to what happened after Sephiroth/Missingno.
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#350 | vcharon | Posted 9/2/2013 11:23:29 AM | message detail
Nah, they'll go back to lining Riot's pockets with their parents' money.
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