Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1146

#151 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 9/2/2013 9:14:28 AM | message detail
nintendopurist posted...
OrangeCrush980 posted...
Shut up, Reddit started it by coming to OUR website and ruining OUR contest. What does it matter if we return the favor by going to THEIR website and mass downvote threads that are actively ruining OUR contest?


Reddit didn't ruin anything. They just sent a lot of traffic over. Lots of places have done this and will do this, and it's completely within the rules. They didn't break our rules, so you shouldn't break theirs.


I don't think downvoting or upvoting whatever thread I want is breaking their rules.
#152 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 9:14:39 AM | message detail
Oh, and for people who don't buy Link boosting between rounds - he's gone from 73% on Raiden to 77% on Commander Shepard.

What do you think Shepard gets on Raiden?
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#153 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 9/2/2013 9:14:44 AM | message detail
mikisho posted...
I'm sad that I'm not a B8 regular, so I get no mention or "Good call". :( I theorized that Link had a valid shot too. Said it for weeks actually.


Well you also weren't tooting your horn about it :P but credit where credit is due, i do remember you saying that early this morning.
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#154 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 9:14:56 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Creative forgot to set the updater for 24 hour matches!

Fix it quickly please. Thanks you!

Thanks. Updater fixed...I think!

Just to let people know, they can trigger manual updates by going to /poll_update.php and adding ?pollid=N to the poll.

e.g.
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/poll_update.php?pollid=5253
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#155 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:14:57 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
So is this "Base Draven" then? If so, Base Draven has gotten a hell of a lot stronger than he was in the beginning. He should be getting his ass kicked by Shepard and be pulling in 12% updates, after all. Maybe once the effects of the main rally truly dies off, we'll actually start seeing stuff like that.

I'm not totally sure. I've been posting Draven votals along with the cuts to track him (yeah I know it's not strictly necessary)

I think "Base Draven" is the guy pulling those 50-60 updates that Shepard could take. Not sure what the ~100 Draven is. Could be variance could be this new topic. Dunno.
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#156 | wg64Z | Posted 9/2/2013 9:15:00 AM | message detail
Guys...we're doing it.

We're doing it

Sure Link wins every year and that may suck, but god dammit it's our website, and we should decide who wins and no one else.

If Link pulls this off, I will officially be on his bandwagon for life.
#157 | gearofages | Posted 9/2/2013 9:15:01 AM | message detail
How is Draven still beating Shepard with the rally down? Also, the poster noting that the last post was deleted probably won't incite too much excitement.
#158 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:15:25 AM | message detail
California and Washington are the last 2 US states to favor Draven. Well it's past 9 AM here, and we're going to change that. In Washington, very soon. In California, it may take a while, but it's coming. The 50 state sweep.
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#159 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:15:30 AM | message detail
Draven can act as a lightning rod for anti-Link and anti-establishment votes now that he's attained notoriety in a way that he couldn't as a random piece of Round 1 fodder, so he's likely going to remain at a level above Base Draven.
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#160 | shane15 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:15:37 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
So is this "Base Draven" then? If so, Base Draven has gotten a hell of a lot stronger than he was in the beginning. He should be getting his ass kicked by Shepard and be pulling in 12% updates, after all. Maybe once the effects of the main rally truly dies off, we'll actually start seeing stuff like that.


Once someone has momentum they start pulling in votes from people who'd usually just roll over and vote for the winner or someone else.Seeing Draven winning against Link is enough to help the cause.
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#161 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 9/2/2013 9:15:38 AM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
As much as I am rooting for Link here and consider him the "good guy" in this equation and all that...

I don't want to sound "ungrateful" or anything but I'm sorry, if Link wins here and then wins the contest his position in these contests is wholly untenable. If even the biggest rally of all time on the biggest message board on the internet from the biggest videogame fanbase in the world can't stop him...


I find it impossible to think that Allen won't retire Link, should he win this contest.
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#162 | dethfdddddh | Posted 9/2/2013 9:15:55 AM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
As much as I am rooting for Link here and consider him the "good guy" in this equation and all that...

I don't want to sound "ungrateful" or anything but I'm sorry, if Link wins here and then wins the contest his position in these contests is wholly untenable. If even the biggest rally of all time on the biggest message board on the internet from the biggest videogame fanbase in the world can't stop him...

But what if Snake gets 46% on him....!
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#163 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:15:58 AM | message detail
Oh whoops, there's also Hawaii. Well, Link will take that too.
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#164 | nintendopurist | Posted 9/2/2013 9:16:03 AM | message detail
Now watching the upvote/downvote totals on the rally thread closer than I am the actual match...

STAY NEGATIVE
#165 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 9:16:20 AM | message detail
"only" a 60 cut.
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#166 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 9:16:24 AM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
I don't think downvoting or upvoting whatever thread I want is breaking their rules.


There's a difference between one person doing it and someone encouraging a bunch of people to do it.
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#167 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2013 9:16:25 AM | message detail
Rad Link 5 posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
Why are people still going along with this stupid f***ing "DOWNVOTE THEIR THREADS" thing? I swear every time it comes up it gets appropriately shut down. It's silly, won't work, underhanded and makes us look like the villains of the piece when we're not.

I agree with all of this except it being underhanded. It's how Reddit works. You downvote stuff you don't like. Just like this is how this contest works. You vote for the character you like. If downvoting their threads is underhanded, them voting in our polls is underhanded.

But like I said, I agree with the rest of what you said. It's dumb.


I suppose not, but taking it even one step further (creating alts to mass downvote or upvoting everything else) is definitely underhanded and not much of a stretch. Technically you're right though.
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#168 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/2/2013 9:16:25 AM | message detail
UNDER 4000
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#169 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:16:47 AM | message detail
Draven: 130
Link cuts 60.

Those votals are more in line with Draven when the rally topic was around.
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#170 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:17:05 AM | message detail
Link needs 28 votes per update to win.
In the last half hour, Link has cut 84 votes per update. At this rate, Link wins by 7881 votes.
In the last hour, Link has cut 82 votes per update. At this rate, Link wins by 7505 votes.
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#171 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:17:18 AM | message detail
Oh right.

Under 4000!

it really wasn't that long ago i said under 5000... or 6000.
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#172 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:17:22 AM | message detail
4000 breached!
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#173 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/2/2013 9:17:24 AM | message detail
Also, Shepard's soaring up now that Draven's weakened. Love it!
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#174 | dethfdddddh | Posted 9/2/2013 9:17:25 AM | message detail
wg64Z posted...
Guys...we're doing it.

We're doing it

Sure Link wins every year and that may suck, but god dammit it's our website, and we should decide who wins and no one else.

If Link pulls this off, I will officially be on his bandwagon for life.


Again, look at the idiots who inhabit most of the boards here. Do you really identify with them?
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#175 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:17:33 AM | message detail
So is this "Base Draven" then? If so, Base Draven has gotten a hell of a lot stronger than he was in the beginning. He should be getting his ass kicked by Shepard and be pulling in 12% updates, after all. Maybe once the effects of the main rally truly dies off, we'll actually start seeing stuff like that.

I feel Draven is still getting rallied.

Losing Reddit is a massive blow for him though
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#176 | nintendopurist | Posted 9/2/2013 9:17:39 AM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
I don't think downvoting or upvoting whatever thread I want is breaking their rules.


No, but organizing mass downvote threads like some people did is. Downvote what you like. But any hint of deliberately organized downvoting gets reddit all in a tiff. It's the sort of thing that'll energize a rally out of spite.
#177 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:17:58 AM | message detail
Have I already said this is the worst possible outcome? yeah I did,a 11 hours ago when it was even closer
Now this is the worst of the worst
This match is just a false hope - Link can't comeback against Draven-even if he reach 1000 votes,a new rally will form up
Hell,a new rally might form while I type this message

Im starting to understand how Zelda fans felt when she was against Charizard - 2 hours before match end,lead at 100,and was like this the whole match...but people knew she is going to lose
I also understand the Vivi fans,that even when Vivi was leading with 100 votes 10 minutes before the end,they were still afraid of the Mario Clutch

And now..this..I don't believe it...I don't believe in Link
#178 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/2/2013 9:18:12 AM | message detail
Bonus match after this contest: Link/Link/Link
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#179 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 9:20:00 AM | message detail
But also importantly this isn't the same Draven we saw last round. Still obviously, unfathomably strong, but if Link had run into Draven last round he'd be dead (especially since it was a 12 hour night match, too).
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#180 | Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 9/2/2013 9:20:14 AM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
As much as I am rooting for Link here and consider him the "good guy" in this equation and all that...

I don't want to sound "ungrateful" or anything but I'm sorry, if Link wins here and then wins the contest his position in these contests is wholly untenable. If even the biggest rally of all time on the biggest message board on the internet from the biggest videogame fanbase in the world can't stop him...


Eh, keep in mind that it's a rally for one of the naturally weakest characters in the contest. Chie was beating Draven with about 63% before the rallies started. Jak was doubling him.
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#181 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 9/2/2013 9:20:40 AM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
California and Washington are the last 2 US states to favor Draven. Well it's past 9 AM here, and we're going to change that. In Washington, very soon. In California, it may take a while, but it's coming. The 50 state sweep.


Oh wow. I completely forgot about California. That's a pretty significant voting bloc that is only now starting to hit its full morning stride. Link could keep this up way longer than I would have predicted.

Isn't there a good bit of LoL support there, though?
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#182 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 9/2/2013 9:20:41 AM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
California and Washington are the last 2 US states to favor Draven. Well it's past 9 AM here, and we're going to change that. In Washington, very soon. In California, it may take a while, but it's coming. The 50 state sweep.


Oh wow. I completely forgot about California. That's a pretty significant voting bloc that is only now starting to hit its full morning stride. Link could keep this up way longer than I would have predicted.

Isn't there a good bit of LoL support there, though?
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#183 | Calintares | Posted 9/2/2013 9:21:57 AM | message detail
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
Bonus match after this contest: Link/Link/Link


It's been done. Link won.
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#184 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:24:14 AM | message detail
The five distinct forms of Draven:

Base Draven
- Gets beaten up by Chie Satonaka.

Survivalist Draven
- For used to defeat Jak and Chie comfortably, but unconvincingly.

Ultimate Draven
- seen only when he faced MMX and Ryu. Perhaps the strongests entity of all time.

Empowered Draven
- form taken in the early stages of his fight against Link. Clearly weaker than Ultimate but capable of defeating Link.

Exhausted Draven
- after fighting Link for 12 hours he took on this form. Comparable in strength with Shepard.
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#185 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 9/2/2013 9:29:00 AM | message detail
Is anyone else having issues with GameFAQs loading? I would say it was just me, but all other sites work fine...plus creative's updater was way behind on the 12:21 update...
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#186 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:32:41 AM | message detail
...Did the site just crash or something for anyone else.

Took me about 15 minutes to get back in the stats topic and try to post this!
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#187 | swirIdude | Posted 9/2/2013 9:35:02 AM | message detail
Link is still cutting even with the site down, but now he's below the minimum requirement.

It would be both hilarious and sad if LoL fans were DDoSing the site to get Draven the win.
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#188 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2013 9:36:18 AM | message detail
Ultimate Link may not have anything on Ultimate Draven. But the rest of the field can't even come close to competing with Ultimate Link.

If Snake can even lead this Link for a single update I think I'd be kinda okay with it, but he probably can't even manage that.
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#189 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 9:41:48 AM | message detail
What is this nonsense. Redditers trying to shut down a Link comeback by DDOS attacking the site???
XIII_rocks posted...
As much as I am rooting for Link here and consider him the "good guy" in this equation and all that...

I don't want to sound "ungrateful" or anything but I'm sorry, if Link wins here and then wins the contest his position in these contests is wholly untenable. If even the biggest rally of all time on the biggest message board on the internet from the biggest videogame fanbase in the world can't stop him...

It's the way it happened.

Link looked dead in the water less *two hours* into the X/Ryu match. Simultaneously, this made Link the strongest he's ever been - over the course of those two hours, Link went from "Link 2013" the weakest Link of all time, to the strongest Link of all time (due to galvanizing Gamefaqs as our only possible savior from a foreign invasion).

Link was down 1000 votes just over an hour into the match.

He was down 6000 votes.

People bailed on Link after 1 hour.

Almost EVERYONE bailed on him during the night vote.

Link didn't give a f***. He then proceeded not just to come back, but to DESTROY.

That, simply put, is a great story.

This is the Hero of Time.
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#190 | Sorozone | Posted 9/2/2013 9:46:48 AM | message detail
Seems like a DDOS attack. Probably from some LoL loser, or the Draven stuffer stopped and resorted to this.
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#191 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 9:50:16 AM | message detail
If this is genuinely a desperation attempt to stop Link...

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#192 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 9:53:09 AM | message detail
Gamefaqs gets Ddos'd. Link doesn't care. Proceeds to shave off another 100 votes.
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#193 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 9/2/2013 9:54:34 AM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
Seems like a DDOS attack. Probably from some LoL loser, or the Draven stuffer stopped and resorted to this.


Yeah, most likely.

This pretty much invalidates any remaining "ethical" debate from the LoL mods. If their supporters are resorting to blatant DDoS attacks to sway the contest, they can't pretend that their members are just "supporting their favorite character" anymore.
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#194 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2013 9:57:39 AM | message detail
Holy crap if the site was just DDOS'd there are no words. No words.
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#195 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 9/2/2013 10:00:09 AM | message detail
What's amazing is that despite the tactical nuke that was just unleashed by his nefarious foe, he's still cutting at the requisite rate.
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#196 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 10:01:55 AM | message detail
THE GREATEST CONTEST FORCE OF ALL TIME

site goes down?

Link doesn't care.

Without a doubt the greatest performance in contest history.
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#197 | creativename | Posted 9/2/2013 10:04:04 AM | message detail
Julian_Caesar posted...
To be fair, there was no indication that Draven's rally would disappear. I think we mostly agreed that IF it did then Link could swing 10,000 votes. But it didn't seem like it would happen.

Still...kudos for the call.

This is simply not true.

I went over last night why I didn't expect Draven's rally to have infinite hit points.

Again - they had a concerted effort of unparalled proportions going *before* the match. They launched a nuke at us - yet Link *lived*. This was clear by the 2nd update! 6 minutes into the match!

And there was no reason logically to believe that rally could keep the momentum. They built it up so high pre-match. It couldn't stay that way.

And any slowdown in the rally meant Link would likely win.
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#198 | rh000001 | Posted 9/2/2013 10:09:43 AM | message detail
Only LoL fans would be pathetic enough to DDOS a site to try to stop Link from beating their guy in a GameFAQs character battle. It seems very clear that's what happening.
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#199 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 10:10:19 AM | message detail
So, I've had some time to think, you know, since it takes about 10 minutes to post or load a page or anything.

I was probably going to say this was the greatest match of all time upon a Link victory. But there was always going to be that doubt in the back of my mind. Because there was something Mario/Crono II had that this lacked. The drama. The controversy of the poll closing. Something I thought could never be replicated these days.

I was wrong.

Now we have this. Now there are no more pieces lacking. The greatest match of all time has arrived. And Link will not be denied.
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#200 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/2/2013 10:10:43 AM | message detail
There's no way Allen would let a glitched poll stand...is there?
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