Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1145

#1 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:32:50 AM | message detail
Crono beats his 2005 percentage on Mario! In a day match!

Now, your champion thirsts after his 8th.

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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.
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#2 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:34:01 AM | message detail
Mario/Crono still the best, 11 years later.
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#3 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 4:36:08 AM | message detail
I was gonna go to sleep tonight, but rock band mixed with sev run mixed with the most epic one on one battle I've personally witnessed live has said otherwise.

Ps. Gamefaqs sucks on an iphone browser.
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#4 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:41:24 AM | message detail
What direct % does Link need on Draven to finish above Chie in the x-stats?
#5 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/2/2013 4:42:20 AM | message detail
39.42%. He's already way above it.
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#6 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:42:56 AM | message detail
lightning-02 posted...
What direct % does Link need on Draven to finish above Chie in the x-stats?

Chie is at 39.42% on Draven
Link currently stands at 43.03%
Jak is at 45.06%
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#7 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 4:43:53 AM | message detail
I still can't fathom why the vast VAST majority of this board thought Link would struggle to pull 20%... Like, seriously, it blows my mind.
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#8 | Averia | Posted 9/2/2013 4:44:36 AM | message detail
mikisho posted...
I still can't fathom why the vast VAST majority of this board thought Link would struggle to pull 20%... Like, seriously, it blows my mind.


Well this is a weaker Draven. Strong than round 1 Draven but weaker than round 2. His rallies are weird like that.
#9 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 4:46:39 AM | message detail
While I understand his round 2 rally was unfathomable (Likely due to a vast amount of cheating, but we have no proof, so eh.), There's still no guarantee that if Draven was pulling in 60k visitors to the site again that all 60k would go with Draven. That's not how rallies work, and most of this board didn't seem to understand that.
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#10 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/2/2013 4:47:32 AM | message detail
8 vote gain that time. Link has had 7 updates in a row with more than 100 votes, so I think the morning vote is starting.
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#11 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:48:17 AM | message detail
RALLY STATS had some pretty distressing numbers out there after MMX/Ryu!

Link under 20% was a bit extreme. But around 25-30%? That sounded pretty good to me!
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#12 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/2/2013 4:50:59 AM | message detail
The Link of previous years would have broken 50% on MMX and Ryu, no problem. So if this was going to be the strongest Link we ever saw due to Gamefaqs uniting around him, straight x-stats from the round 2 match, plus extending the match to 24 hours, already put Link around 40% on Draven.
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#13 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:51:37 AM | message detail
There's our cut! 18 votes.
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#14 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/2/2013 4:52:38 AM | message detail
Cut! 18 votes, very big for a first cut.
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#15 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2013 4:54:49 AM | message detail
CUT OMG
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#16 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:54:50 AM | message detail
Draven is going to gain like 40 here though. =(
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#17 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 4:54:51 AM | message detail
Ok, 40% I can understand much more after Round 2. I suppose it's entirely possible the people who responded to my topic theorizing this were all the vocal Draven supporters trying to bury Link as much as possible.

I do like how Link is like, the ace in the hole for GameFAQs too. For years, he dominates contests, creating a rabid fan base hell bent on destroying him. Then, when an outside force finally interferes to try and topple the king, the site becomes split in it's decision as GameFAQs' heaviest hitter steps up to the plate, ready to take on one of his biggest challenges to date. The stigma surrounding the match is amplified even m ore due to the fact that last time he faced odds like this, he lost. The whole scenario just screams amazing in my head xD
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#18 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2013 4:55:12 AM | message detail
that is a moral victory, I think
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#19 | Fr0zoN | Posted 9/2/2013 4:55:23 AM | message detail
Link rises from the floor and wants to see out the whole 12 rounds. The champs not going down without a fight
#20 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:56:22 AM | message detail
"only 13" that's better than I expected!
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#21 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2013 4:56:25 AM | message detail
Well, not really.

Congratulations, Link, for winning an update against Draven. You have scaled the mountain. You are on par with Jak and Chie.
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#22 | Lopen | Posted 9/2/2013 4:57:00 AM | message detail
So yeah, Link + Shep's percentage of the extra vote pie really really really gets stupid as these rallied votes are dropping off. It's getting pretty hard to deny that a good portion of the extra votes are pure stuffed votes at this point.

Link vs Shepard vs Draven

Time: Link + Shepard's %, (approximated extra votes)
0:05-0:35: 27.4% (5380 approximated extra votes)
0:35-1:05: 28.1% (3102)
1:05-1:35: 33.1% (3031)
1:35-2:05: 28.5% (2650)
2:05-2:35: 24.3% (2255)
2:35-3:05: 19.7% (1859)
3:05-3:35: 19.3% (1643)
3:35-4:05: 19.3% (1627)
4:05-4:35: 18.3% (1428)
4:35-5:05: 21.5% (1329)
5:05-5:35: 16.1% (1042)
5:35-6:05: 13.4% (977)
6:05-6:35: 6.1% (858)
6:35-7:05: 8.1% (854)
7:05-7:35: 7.0% (775)

Ryu vs MMX vs Draven

Time: MMX + Ryu's %, (approximated extra votes)

0:35-1:05: 10% (4378 approximated extra votes)
1:05-1:35: 10.3% (4878)
1:35-2:05: 11.9% (4106)
2:05-2:35: 12.4% (3620)
2:35-3:05: 7.9% (2838)
3:05-3:35: 12.3% (3259)
3:35-4:05: 8.4% (2481)
4:05-4:35: 5.8% (2221)
4:35-5:05: 9.8% (2265)
5:05-5:35: 5.1% (2173)
5:35-6:05: 5.2% (2029)
6:05-6:35: 8.2% (2126)
6:35-7:05: 6.4% (1946)
7:05-7:35: 2.4% (1864)

Jak vs Chie vs Draven

Time: Jak + Chie%, (approximated extra votes)

(extra votes before here were trace)
3:05-3:35: 4.4% (411)
3:35-4:05: 1% (770)
4:05-4:35: 9.7% (656)
4:35-5:05: 10.4% (888)
5:05-5:35: 11.9% (906)
5:35-6:05: 12.5% (770)
6:05-6:35: 28.9% (944)
6:35-7:05: 35.7% (843)
7:05-7:35: 29.5% (734)
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#23 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/2/2013 4:57:21 AM | message detail
I've got to sleep soon, but here's a Bold Prediction: Draven never gets a lead of 7000 this match.
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#24 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 4:57:31 AM | message detail
Oh now it begins. All the Draven supporters begin to downplay Link's "only" 18 vote cut... But Link is just getting started, and things are about to get interesting...
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#25 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 4:57:38 AM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
Well, not really.

Congratulations, Link, for winning an update against Draven. You have scaled the mountain. You are on par with Jak and Chie.

Pfft, Link is well above Chie.

something 240 characters won't be able to say at the end of all this
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#26 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/2/2013 4:59:33 AM | message detail
The Draven rally topic is down to 6th overall on the LoL subreddit. The rally should get weaker as it falls farther down on the front page of the LoL subreddit. It will also be pretty hard to get the rally topic back up to 2nd or 3rd overall, so I could imagine a situation where another rally topic was posted and upvoted to the point where it ends up rising to 2nd or 3rd overall.
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#27 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 5:00:18 AM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
I've got to sleep soon, but here's a Bold Prediction: Draven never gets a lead of 7000 this match.


I like your style. If Draven never breaks 7000, that creates an even BIGGER opening for Link. I'm containing my excitement as much as I can, but I'm not doing a very good job xD
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#28 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:02:23 AM | message detail
Switching back to being serious for a second. I still don't like Link's position here too much. But it's just too much fun to believe and getting all excited.
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#29 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 5:02:57 AM | message detail
I KNOW RIGHT?! It's going to be one hell of an uphill battle, but if ANYONE can do it, it's Link.... Or Sora's day vote... BUT ONLY THOSE TWO!
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#30 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/2/2013 5:03:26 AM | message detail
Draven by the Hour vs. Link:

1:00 | 53.49% | +859
2:00 | 53.51% | +573
3:00 | 58.48% | +1050
4:00 | 63.51% | +1071
5:00 | 61.72% | +845
6:00 | 61.82% | +735
7:00 | 59.73% | +583
8:00 | 54.44% | +264

A big drop in Draven's percentage. Another drop of the same size would let Link win an hour......
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#31 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:04:06 AM | message detail
Wow, I knew that was going to be a great hour for Link, but I didn't think it'd be that great.
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#32 | Fr0zoN | Posted 9/2/2013 5:04:24 AM | message detail
Yeah Link has no chance of winning but its nice to see him putting up a fight and not just getting humiliated like MMX and Ryu
#33 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 9/2/2013 5:04:29 AM | message detail
The funny thing is, Chie was a guaranteed one and done character we would have probably never seen again had it not been for her bracket placement.

Now, she's going to be a huge running joke and probably get enough noms for the next bracket(s) just so people can make outrageous x-stat claims when she gets hilariously blown out.
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#34 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:05:13 AM | message detail
_SecretSquirrel posted...
The funny thing is, Chie was a guaranteed one and done character we would have probably never seen again had it not been for her bracket placement.

Now, she's going to be a huge running joke and probably get enough noms for the next bracket(s) just so people can make outrageous x-stat claims when she gets hilariously blown out.

isn't that the dream of all fodder though
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#35 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 5:06:42 AM | message detail
There's still so much negativity. You guys need to look at the opprtunities here. The Draven Rally is dying AND LINK'S DAY VOTE IS STARTING. There's potential for us to get an hour or two of Day Vote Link vs. Rally-less Draven. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW BIG THOSE CUTS WILL BE?!?
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#36 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:06:56 AM | message detail
I haven't been paying any attention but hahaha Shepard climbing back to 11.8%

how is he doing this it's incredible
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#37 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 5:08:56 AM | message detail
Oh yeah, The day vote is definitely in it's starting stages.Link's last 3 updates have been 118, 115, and 130. The ball is rolling.
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#38 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2013 5:09:34 AM | message detail
Shepard is probably catching a lot of votes from the rally too. He's one of the most well-known current-gen characters - he's going to be catching rally spillover from the younger League voters, or people who weren't Nintendo kids.
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#39 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 5:10:20 AM | message detail
At this rate, Draven is gonna drop under 50% and people will be able to blame Shepard again xD
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#40 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:10:50 AM | message detail
Can someone make a pre-rally Draven watch?
Like,if he drops to being the pathetic Draven he was at the start of the Jak/Chie match,when will Link catch up?
#41 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:12:12 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Can someone make a pre-rally Draven watch?
Like,if he drops to being the pathetic Draven he was at the start of the Jak/Chie match,when will Link catch up?

Pre-rally Draven would probably be hard-pressed to hold this lead if we were still having 12 hour matches!
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#42 | Lopen | Posted 9/2/2013 5:12:43 AM | message detail
Basically the thing to look at here most is Draven's votes per update I think.

If Draven starts pulling in like 50s you can actually start believing hard. Link can knock down 100-150 per five if that happens. I'm still not convinced he bottoms out below 100 though!
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#43 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 5:12:53 AM | message detail
Interesting question. I sadly don't know Pre-rally Draven's points so I couldn't even hazard a guess xD.
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#44 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/2/2013 5:13:33 AM | message detail
The chances of unrallied Draven being at the same base strength he had against Jak/Chie is very unlikely. Draven's base strength is probably much higher than what he had back in round 1.
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#45 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:13:45 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Basically the thing to look at here most is Draven's votes per update I think.

If Draven starts pulling in like 50s you can actually start believing hard. Link can knock down 100-150 per five if that happens. I'm still not convinced he bottoms out below 100 though!

Yeah, I honestly look at Draven's votal intake before I look at the actual lead. It's way more important, IMO.
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#46 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:14:11 AM | message detail
Can someone make a pre-rally Draven watch?
Like,if he drops to being the pathetic Draven he was at the start of the Jak/Chie match,when will Link catch up?
#47 | Lopen | Posted 9/2/2013 5:14:12 AM | message detail
Pre-rally Draven is pulling like 20-40 votes an update here. Like Link can crush this lead in two or three hours if that happens.
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#48 | mikisho | Posted 9/2/2013 5:15:08 AM | message detail
So, what's the MAX Update Limit for Link once he gets going? Like, believably what are the biggest Updates he could get?
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#49 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:17:50 AM | message detail
Link has notably stepped it up from an hour ago. He's more in the 120-130 per update zone. Draven is just holding out around at 140-150 with those occasional outliers that go to 120. If he starts doing that with any frequency again, Link's going to end up cutting every time.
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#50 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 5:19:21 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Pre-rally Draven is pulling like 20-40 votes an update here. Like Link can crush this lead in two or three hours if that happens.


I think we need to calculate it using Link anti votes and bandwagon votes as well
I think if the rally gets to the second place or deleted we can still expect 80 votes at least