Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1144

#251 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/1/2013 11:52:31 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
I actually thought that rallying in LoL reddit was "ok" because it can be countered by rallying in other places
Now that Link rallies are shot down left and right IN THE SAME SITE I really consider this an unfair advantage

Here,Booker,have some salt!


Are rallies getting shot down in /r/gaming too? I know /r/nintendo has some retrograde rules, but I wouldn't have thought the general gaming subreddit would do that too.
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#252 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/1/2013 11:53:15 PM | message detail
So, this is Draven slowing down (relative to last round I mean) right? So he might not win the contest?

If so, good!

Anyway, RallyFAQs is probably the single worst thing to happen to contests ever. Worse than the time I lost the guru due to blatant stuffing from Crono.
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#253 | Sorozone | Posted 9/1/2013 11:54:09 PM | message detail
A "slowed down" Draven will still steamroll anyone that is leftover.
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#254 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/1/2013 11:54:57 PM | message detail
Yeah, if Link can't win here, no one else will unless Reddit just gives up on the contest completely after this match.
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#255 | xp1337 | Posted 9/1/2013 11:55:48 PM | message detail
Yeah, a lot of people aren't really respecting how otherworldly Link has been here.

Really hard to imagine anyone else could come close to replicating Link's performance here. Link was always the best shot at stopping Draven.
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#256 | wedgeskywalker9 | Posted 9/1/2013 11:56:39 PM | message detail
Draven beating Link and then losing steam and being defeated by Blue would be optimal
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#257 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/1/2013 11:59:56 PM | message detail
#258 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:00:17 AM | message detail
I dunno if my theory that Draven will be at it's weakest state in the fourth round will hold
Too bad Sonic won't get advantage of it
#259 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/2/2013 12:00:36 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
I dunno if my theory that Draven will be at it's weakest state in the fourth round will hold
Too bad Sonic won't get advantage of it


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#260 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/2/2013 12:00:45 AM | message detail
Ah, so it's just Ninty management being dumb as usual and not actual sabotage. Man, as someone who's a gigantic Nintendo mark, they really make it hard to trust them sometimes.
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#261 | Fr0zoN | Posted 9/2/2013 12:02:01 AM | message detail | (edited)
People also need to remember that this is the last match with a throwaway 3rd character. The next matches for Draven will have 2 characters stealing the gamefaqs vote as opposed to Link taking the majority of it.

So basically in this match you have

The strongest gamefaqs character with a weak-ish 3rd character and still Link cant get anywhere near Draven. When Sephiroth/Sonic or Snake/Samus are splitting the gamefaqs vote then there is no other outcome but a Draven win
#262 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/2/2013 12:01:36 AM | message detail
Draven vs. Mewtwo vs. Big Boss could be interesting.
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#263 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:01:43 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Nanis23 posted...
I dunno if my theory that Draven will be at it's weakest state in the fourth round will hold
Too bad Sonic won't get advantage of it


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operation draven eater
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#264 | mumbo230 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:01:44 AM | message detail
Great champions arise, but there comes a day when every champ falls.

As far as I can remember, Link has only lost twice in the over 10-year history of the Character Battle.

I can see the writing on the wall, and it looks like Draven will join the likes of Cloud Strife and L-Block as one of the elite few who could unseat the king. Will Draven go on to claim it all? We'll have to wait and see.

Nothing can diminish Link's accomplishments. Winner of CBI, CBIII, the CBIV Tournament of Champions, the CBV Battle Royale. Lost to L-Block in CBVI, but came back with a vengeance to claim two more titles in CBVII and CBVIII. All in all, a six-time champion, a mark that will probably never be matched.

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Farewell Hyrule King.

Your time as at an end, but you are still, without a doubt, the greatest of all time.
#265 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/2/2013 12:03:33 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
operation draven eater


http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/gotd/gotd-119-1.jpg

Someone should just take this pic and superimpose Draven's face on the Colossus.
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#266 | AnonGEOO7 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:06:24 AM | message detail
If Luffy would be in this contest, he would OBLITERATE gayven.



EXODIA! OBLITERATE!!!
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#267 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/2/2013 12:07:30 AM | message detail
AnonGEOO7 posted...
If Luffy would be in this contest, he would OBLITERATE gayven.



EXODIA! OBLITERATE!!!


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#268 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:07:32 AM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Draven vs. Mewtwo vs. Big Boss could be interesting.


I genuinly thought that Mewtwo could get a bigger rally than Link
But after Charizard match,I lost hope in the Pokemon fanbase
The fact that liking "cool" Pokemon from the first gen is now a taboo in the Pokemon community basically crash any hope Mewtwo might have had
Squirtle is now pretty much the most rallyable Pokemon in the bracket
#269 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 9/2/2013 12:08:21 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Yeah, if Link can't win here, no one else will unless Reddit just gives up on the contest completely after this match.


This is basically Reddit's contest to lose, but I could see a huge drop off in this match because there's no where to go but down here.

The other factor is that the chaos in the bottom third of the bracket could result in an unexpected finalist that could play a Shepard role here, and a weaker Draven could be vulnerable to Snake.
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#270 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/2/2013 12:08:59 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
Draven vs. Mewtwo vs. Big Boss could be interesting.


I genuinly thought that Mewtwo could get a bigger rally than Link
But after Charizard match,I lost hope in the Pokemon fanbase
The fact that liking "cool" Pokemon from the first gen is now a taboo in the Pokemon community basically crash any hope Mewtwo might have had
Squirtle is now pretty much the most rallyable Pokemon in the bracket


Wait what? You can't just post this and not share the whole story with us man. Details please!
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#271 | Janus5000 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:09:35 AM | message detail
...Link's above 30%?

This was unexpected.
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#272 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:10:52 AM | message detail
Honestly, if I were Snake, I think I'd rather face Draven next round. Not that I buy Draven really dropping off, but if I did I think I'd rather try and face him in a "semifinal" than in the finals. Seems like it'd be easier to get the motivation back up if it was for the win. Unfortunately, that's not the case.

But really, I don't see Draven's rally going anywhere, and even if it did, it's not likely to be by enough for anyone else to take advantage of.
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#273 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/2/2013 12:12:33 AM | message detail
Link under 40% now, Draven pushing hard to get the simple majority for the poll.
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#274 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/2/2013 12:12:34 AM | message detail
Link back under 40%
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#275 | Denzokuken | Posted 9/2/2013 12:13:28 AM | message detail
see ya Link
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#276 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/2/2013 12:13:57 AM | message detail
...Well on the bright side, Link's winning Indonesia.

HAIL BANJO

can't wait to see how the Indonesia stats work out using Banjo units!
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#277 | JustForFun1988 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:14:00 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
Honestly, if I were Snake, I think I'd rather face Draven next round. Not that I buy Draven really dropping off, but if I did I think I'd rather try and face him in a "semifinal" than in the finals. Seems like it'd be easier to get the motivation back up if it was for the win. Unfortunately, that's not the case.


Snake is indeed facing him in semi-final.

As in NAKED SNAKE
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#278 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:14:01 AM | message detail
Expanding on that, R2 is what slammed the door on this. In theory that's the match that should have been the most difficult to mobilize on, IMO. You had two strong characters there, and the goal of "winning the contest" or "making GameFAQs mad" wasn't really there yet like it is here or would be in the finals.

And then MMX and Ryu got crushed. No reason to think after that match they fail to show up anywhere else.
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#279 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:15:35 AM | message detail
Along with Link falling under 40% he's coming close to falling under 45% on Draven. 45.13% right now.
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#280 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/2/2013 12:18:46 AM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4

Sit back, Board 8. Relax and watch as the contest burns. It feels so...odd, to think that I might be even partially responsible for this. It feels like there's a little hole where all I had come to known and expect out of the contests used to be. There's nothing there now. The contests will be back, and stronger than ever, next year. But it won't be the same ones we used to love. It'll be something new. Better? Worse? I can't tell just yet. We'll have to be there to see how it turns out.
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#281 | raytan7585 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:19:05 AM | message detail
Welp gg Link
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#282 | Lopen | Posted 9/2/2013 12:21:00 AM | message detail
Fun facts:

This match is now 3000 votes behind Draven/MMX/Ryu
Draven has 7k less votes than he did in that match at this time.

Very clear that this is not the same Draven as round 2, not even close. I'll probably look into analyzing the extra votes like I did for the other match to see if we get somewhat realistic numbers here-- I'm thinking we will.
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#283 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 9/2/2013 12:22:24 AM | message detail
It has never felt so good to vote for Link. I haven't even ever really supported Link. But seeing him do this well against this massive rallying. Man, you're still our champ Link.
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#284 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/2/2013 12:22:49 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Fun facts:

This match is now 3000 votes behind Draven/MMX/Ryu
Draven has 7k less votes than he did in that match at this time.

Very clear that this is not the same Draven as round 2, not even close. I'll probably look into analyzing the extra votes like I did for the other match to see if we get somewhat realistic numbers here-- I'm thinking we will.


Which means one thing: LoL being down last round made an enormous difference. Just imagine what happens if the game has maintenace next week.
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#285 | GoldSlime35 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:22:57 AM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
People also need to remember that this is the last match with a throwaway 3rd character. The next matches for Draven will have 2 characters stealing the gamefaqs vote as opposed to Link taking the majority of it.

So basically in this match you have

The strongest gamefaqs character with a weak-ish 3rd character and still Link cant get anywhere near Draven. When Sephiroth/Sonic or Snake/Samus are splitting the gamefaqs vote then there is no other outcome but a Draven win


This.

Every other match will have a stronger split. Only something crazy like a Draven/Glados/LBlock final would have a chance of being interesting, but that match won't happen.

Draven will win easily if the rallies continue.
#286 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:24:16 AM | message detail
Link now at exactly 45% on Draven.

Jak was at 45.06% for comparison.
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#287 | Lopen | Posted 9/2/2013 12:27:22 AM | message detail
The problem with that theory is IIRC LOL was only down a few hours last match and the torrid pace continued throughout.
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#288 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 9/2/2013 12:27:48 AM | message detail
Draven's cuts are getting a bit smaller. Still big, but smaller.
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#289 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/2/2013 12:28:06 AM | message detail
Link sustains two straight "stalls". If he can keep the overnight gains to around 50 per update instead of 100 he'll have a much better chance once his day vote hits.

Also, decreased votes for Draven indicates the rally is slowing down. If the thread falls off the front page of r/leagueoflegends (no idea how that would work or how long it would take), he should win this easily.
#290 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 9/2/2013 12:28:46 AM | message detail
Couldn't they just make another thread if the old one is dead for a few hours?
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#291 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/2/2013 12:30:32 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
The problem with that theory is IIRC LOL was only down a few hours last match and the torrid pace continued throughout.


I'm gonna have to take a look and see what happened, but I can imagine that. Votals DID drip a bunch as the match continued - we saw this in the way Draven pulled in something like 100 vote gains late in the match. The question is when maintenance ended, and if we can line that up with any significant dropoff in votes.
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#292 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 9/2/2013 12:32:56 AM | message detail
-hotdogturtle-- posted...
Couldn't they just make another thread if the old one is dead for a few hours?


Yeah, but if it took an hour to get to the front page Link could probably pick up a few thousand votes in the meantime.
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#293 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/2/2013 12:36:46 AM | message detail
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#295 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/2/2013 12:36:53 AM | message detail
LordoftheMorons posted...
-hotdogturtle-- posted...
Couldn't they just make another thread if the old one is dead for a few hours?


Yeah, but if it took an hour to get to the front page Link could probably pick up a few thousand votes in the meantime.


It frontpaged in like 30-40 minutes tops, probably 20, on this round. With the whole subreddit in on it, a new thread will probably take off like a rocket.
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#296 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:38:54 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Nanis23 posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
Draven vs. Mewtwo vs. Big Boss could be interesting.


I genuinly thought that Mewtwo could get a bigger rally than Link
But after Charizard match,I lost hope in the Pokemon fanbase
The fact that liking "cool" Pokemon from the first gen is now a taboo in the Pokemon community basically crash any hope Mewtwo might have had
Squirtle is now pretty much the most rallyable Pokemon in the bracket


Wait what? You can't just post this and not share the whole story with us man. Details please!


In the Pokemon fandom,there is something called "genwars" that is used to describe when Pokefans fights over what generation is the best
The first generation is the most popular,and it got the point a new term was used to describe them "genwunners" and Charizard is the mascot of the term
Genwunners are pretty much the worst thing in the Pokemon community because they are blinded by nostalgia and can't accept new things
Often making jokes about new Pokemon designs while ignoring the fact old Pokemon designs weren't that much better
So,if you like Charizard and Mewtwo,you are marked as "genwunner" because it's no longer cool to like "badass" Pokemon anymore
Yeah badass decline theory

Still not the worst fanbase in the world,but third place sounds about right (behind Sonic and Moba fanbases - they are all the same)
#297 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 9/2/2013 12:38:55 AM | message detail
That's still on the order of 1000 votes for Link!
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#298 | xp1337 | Posted 9/2/2013 12:39:40 AM | message detail
Forget Link.

Shepard would be cutting Draven.
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#299 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/2/2013 12:40:38 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Nanis23 posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
Draven vs. Mewtwo vs. Big Boss could be interesting.


I genuinly thought that Mewtwo could get a bigger rally than Link
But after Charizard match,I lost hope in the Pokemon fanbase
The fact that liking "cool" Pokemon from the first gen is now a taboo in the Pokemon community basically crash any hope Mewtwo might have had
Squirtle is now pretty much the most rallyable Pokemon in the bracket


Wait what? You can't just post this and not share the whole story with us man. Details please!


In the Pokemon fandom,there is something called "genwars" that is used to describe when Pokefans fights over what generation is the best
The first generation is the most popular,and it got the point a new term was used to describe them "genwunners" and Charizard is the mascot of the term
Genwunners are pretty much the worst thing in the Pokemon community because they are blinded by nostalgia and can't accept new things
Often making jokes about new Pokemon designs while ignoring the fact old Pokemon designs weren't that much better
So,if you like Charizard and Mewtwo,you are marked as "genwunner" because it's no longer cool to like "badass" Pokemon anymore
Yeah badass decline theory

Still not the worst fanbase in the world,but third place sounds about right (behind Sonic and Moba fanbases - they are all the same)


'oh'

That's really interesting, actually. Didn't know that was the consensus opinion of the fandom! Super neat stuff to know, thanks for explaining Nanis.
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#300 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/2/2013 12:47:50 AM | message detail
I can imagine really not liking genwunners.

I mean there are so many great Pokemon in the later gens. How can you not like them.
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