Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1142

#351 | creativename | Posted 9/1/2013 7:27:46 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
why are you responding to him

...good question.

I normally give this advice about LMS myself, so I should know better.

1337gamerpr0 posted...
watch out, we've got a badass over here

Careful now, don't hurt his feelings. He might suicide again.
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#352 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:29:38 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Literal talk about deliberately planning a mass down-voting of a post. You know, the kind of s*** reddit probably deals with on a daily basis.

I mean, what were you guys expecting?


wah I don't like it when you do something I don't like!
#353 | Heroic Viktor | Posted 9/1/2013 7:29:51 PM | message detail
I miss the good ole days, where these topics were mostly rationale and calculated discussions on contest strength and matchups, and not people I've never heard of going out of their way to try and piss off as many people as possible. I thought that's what virtually every other B8 topic was for.
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#354 | Achromatic | Posted 9/1/2013 7:30:26 PM | message detail
So you liked the stats topics in 2002 then.
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#355 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:30:33 PM | message detail
Heroic Viktor posted...
I miss the good ole days, where these topics were mostly rationale and calculated discussions on contest strength and matchups, and not people I've never heard of going out of their way to try and piss off as many people as possible. I thought that's what virtually every other B8 topic was for.


don't you love when the people fishing for people to pissed off are the ones who leave the most angry
#356 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/1/2013 7:30:46 PM | message detail
Also, if you guys didn't make a big deal over this crap, it'd be more likely the redditors would be voting for whoever they liked instead of focusing entirely on Draven. Instead, they're going to vote Draven purely to spite you twits.

And I'm all for that.
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#357 | LiBe____BCNOFNe | Posted 9/1/2013 7:30:50 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Not_Wylvane posted...
Literal talk about deliberately planning a mass down-voting of a post. You know, the kind of s*** reddit probably deals with on a daily basis.

I mean, what were you guys expecting?


wah I don't like it when you do something I don't like!



oh my god the f***ing irony it burns
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#358 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:32:05 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Also, if you guys didn't make a big deal over this crap, it'd be more likely the redditors would be voting for whoever they liked instead of focusing entirely on Draven. Instead, they're going to vote Draven purely to spite you twits.

And I'm all for that.


lol, you think it makes one bit of difference
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#359 | xp1337 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:33:25 PM | message detail
The idea that Draven is going to gain any significant strength here because of Board 8's reaction never sat well with me.

I mean, really? It's going to make the comments about the match a lot worse which is part of why I think it's been counter-productive (seriously, this place over the next 36-72 hours is going to just be so terrible). But it's not like Link was in this until all of a sudden Board 8 made people mad.

Link was doomed from the start, let's not pretend otherwise.
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#360 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 9/1/2013 7:34:11 PM | message detail
The stats topic has probably been the most chill place on the board for the past few years. It's probably among the most popular, longest-running topic series on the whole internet (seriously, 11+ years of history now!), yet we don't care if an unknown newb makes the new topic. You go back 7-8 years ago, and the place would be up in arms if the topics were made by anyone but a longtime stats regular. Stats has mellowed out a lot and is the best "place" to enjoy the contests imo. This match is clearly just way different and is ruffling some feathers.
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#361 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:34:15 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
The idea that Draven is going to gain any significant strength here because of Board 8's reaction never sat well with me.

I mean, really? It's going to make the comments about the match a lot worse which is part of why I think it's been counter-productive (seriously, this place over the next 36-72 hours is going to just be so terrible). But it's not like Link was in this until all of a sudden Board 8 made people mad.

Link was doomed from the start, let's not pretend otherwise.


LOL U MAD BRO
#362 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/1/2013 7:34:54 PM | message detail
That's true, but the board's not been doing itself any favors.

I'm looking forward to the hilarity for this one, at least.
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#363 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:34:59 PM | message detail
Yup, I want to go on record and say Draven's votes from round 2 will be enough to win despite this being a 24 hour match.
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#364 | creativename | Posted 9/1/2013 7:35:03 PM | message detail
Is that CD-i Link in the 3rd picture?

Whatever it is it's terrible.
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#365 | Heroic Viktor | Posted 9/1/2013 7:35:13 PM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
So you liked the stats topics in 2002 then.


I actually found them to be quite enoyable up until about a few weeks ago. Mostly lurking the past few years, but enjoyable. Now its a rare day I don't check in and just shake my head. Most of it is my utter ignorance towards everything LoL though, so maybe that's just on me.
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#366 | ZFS | Posted 9/1/2013 7:35:14 PM | message detail
Yeah, both sides will be pretty rotten here. They'll believe they're better than the other, but it will just be obnoxious. Link's probably gonna lose. It sucks, but what can you do. Reddit people will be annoying, board 8 regulars will moan.
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#367 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/1/2013 7:36:04 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Is that CD-i Link in the 3rd picture?

Whatever it is it's terrible.


Pretty sure it's Zelda 1 Link.
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#368 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/1/2013 7:36:13 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
The stats topic has probably been the most chill place on the board for the past few years. It's probably among the most popular, longest-running topic series on the whole internet (seriously, 11+ years of history now!), yet we don't care if an unknown newb makes the new topic. You go back 7-8 years ago, and the place would be up in arms if the topics were made by anyone but a longtime stats regular. Stats has mellowed out a lot and is the best "place" to enjoy the contests imo. This match is clearly just way different and is ruffling some feathers.


This, plus people forget that half my posts in these topics are antagonistic anyway! It's like nobody paid attention to my successful efforts to vote Crono out of the Noble Nine!
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#369 | ZFS | Posted 9/1/2013 7:36:27 PM | message detail
I mean, Zelda just lost to Charizard and Mario to Vivi. We've had bad results already!
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#370 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/1/2013 7:36:45 PM | message detail
Anyone in favor of not making Part 1143 (well, Part 1144 if people keep posting at this rate) until this next match is almost over?

Or at least everyone promise not to say anything important until then!
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#371 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/1/2013 7:37:11 PM | message detail
Heroic Viktor posted...
Achromatic posted...
So you liked the stats topics in 2002 then.


I actually found them to be quite enoyable up until about a few weeks ago. Mostly lurking the past few years, but enjoyable. Now its a rare day I don't check in and just shake my head. Most of it is my utter ignorance towards everything LoL though, so maybe that's just on me.


Don't be afraid to jump into the LoL topic series and ask for an explanation of what makes it fun. Nobody in that topic will bite.
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#372 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/1/2013 7:37:15 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Yup, I want to go on record and say Draven's votes from round 2 will be enough to win despite this being a 24 hour match.


Honestly, part of me wants the rally to stop at noon.

Then we can watch Link quadruple Draven for the second half of the match and still lose.
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#373 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/1/2013 7:37:34 PM | message detail
Oh, this topic's going to get nasty.

I can't wait.
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#374 | ZFS | Posted 9/1/2013 7:37:38 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Is that CD-i Link in the 3rd picture?

Whatever it is it's terrible.


Zelda 2 Link. Pretty cool picture, I thought!
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#375 | Pizzaknight | Posted 9/1/2013 7:38:23 PM | message detail
If rallies aren't considered a part of a character's popularity, then what is? All this talk about "natural strength" is fine and dandy, but I think everyone in this topic would agree that strength can (and often does) change, sometimes even within the same contest!

I really appreciate what the stat regulars try to do. You guys try to get as clear of a read as possible on every character's strength level. It takes close looks at voting trends, the invention of numerous "factors" to explain anomalies, and even then it's sometimes not enough.

What is popularity?

In the context of these Character Battles, it's simply who gets the most votes in a match. You win matches until you're eliminated or you're the champ. The champ is crowned the most popular...........for the time being.

This contest allows outside involvement/rallies, so you can't just simply label Draven as "not actually popular." Sure he may not actually be popular among the GameFAQs community, but the GameFAQs community aren't the only people who are allowed to vote in the matches!

Like it or not, Draven is showing that he is popular among a certain population base on the internet.

Anyone on the internet can vote in a Character Battle.

Draven's strength may fade, zig-zag, or stay the same forever.

Either way you slice it, he's popular right now in this Character Battle. He's getting the votes, and he hasn't been officially labeled a cheater yet.

Anyway, those are my two cents. I love Character Battles, I love reading Board 8 topics (including this one), and I've been doing it since 2002, a few years before I even had this account (my 2nd one). I'm not trying to rag on anybody at all, and I hope you guys keep up the interesting discussion/analysis.
#376 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 9/1/2013 7:38:44 PM | message detail
And hey, this is a far more electric atmosphere than I imagined. I wish Ngamer would be able to throw up an impromptu live podcast because there's definitely a bigger buzz around here than at any time since Melee/Brawl. The result in 90 minutes might be obvious, but even still, hearing everyone shout about it would be fun.
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#377 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:38:53 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Anyone in favor of not making Part 1143 (well, Part 1144 if people keep posting at this rate) until this next match is almost over?

Or at least everyone promise not to say anything important until then!


hmm....
HEY MODS LOCK THE ENTIRE BOARD PLEASE
#378 | creativename | Posted 9/1/2013 7:38:57 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
The stats topic has probably been the most chill place on the board for the past few years. It's probably among the most popular, longest-running topic series on the whole internet (seriously, 11+ years of history now!), yet we don't care if an unknown newb makes the new topic. You go back 7-8 years ago, and the place would be up in arms if the topics were made by anyone but a longtime stats regular. Stats has mellowed out a lot and is the best "place" to enjoy the contests imo. This match is clearly just way different and is ruffling some feathers.

Agreed, this topic is still very chill for the most part. Getting your entire site's opinion drowned out by the dregs of friggin' Reddit will definitely ruffle feathers though.

There will be some spillover bitterness until the contest ends, though after tomorrow it should be toned down substantially.

Although watching Draven destroy Snake might cause a bitterness spike, as unlike Link Snake is pretty universally beloved over here.

ZFS posted...
Yeah, both sides will be pretty rotten here. They'll believe they're better than the other, but it will just be obnoxious. Link's probably gonna lose. It sucks, but what can you do. Reddit people will be annoying, board 8 regulars will moan.

...yeah.
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#379 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:39:20 PM | message detail
Anyone in favor of not making Part 1143 (well, Part 1144 if people keep posting at this rate) until this next match is almost over?

Nah the stats topic will remain open, Sonic/Mewtwo/Bowser will be interesting to talk about. I still don't know who I'm taking in my expert challenge
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#380 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:40:45 PM | message detail
And hey, this is a far more electric atmosphere than I imagined. I wish Ngamer would be able to throw up an impromptu live podcast because there's definitely a bigger buzz around here than at any time since Melee/Brawl. The result in 90 minutes might be obvious, but even still, hearing everyone shout about it would be fun.

We could all go on tinychat
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#381 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 9/1/2013 7:41:14 PM | message detail
Getting salty and "closing stats" for a day is 2005 behavior. Stats will remain open for all times (or until the offseason when we get one post per day and sometimes purge).
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#382 | xp1337 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:41:23 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Oh, this topic's going to get nasty.

I can't wait.

I think the Stats Topic is likely to be the "nicest" place on the board, actually. Most of us knew this was coming so it's more resignation. Sure, people will come in here, but I imagine it's going to be a lot worse on the board in general.
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#383 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/1/2013 7:42:09 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
We could all go on tinychat


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#384 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/1/2013 7:42:30 PM | message detail
Who do you think will win the board vote, Link or Shepard?

You know, excluding Draven when he's scoring 90% for the first couple minutes. And then hours. And then the rest of the day.
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#385 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:42:33 PM | message detail
I think the Stats Topic is likely to be the "nicest" place on the board, actually. Most of us knew this was coming so it's more resignation. Sure, people will come in here, but I imagine it's going to be a lot worse on the board in general.

All it'll take is a couple of people poking in the right spots for even this topic to burst for a few hours
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#386 | pjbasis | Posted 9/1/2013 7:42:40 PM | message detail
In all likelihood this'll just be really boring
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#387 | creativename | Posted 9/1/2013 7:43:42 PM | message detail | (edited)
Most of the nastiness will come from LoL (edit: Reddit) invading trolls.

Stats vets have known what was coming for a long time. Link will be lucky to break 40% on Draven.
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#388 | xp1337 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:43:57 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
I think the Stats Topic is likely to be the "nicest" place on the board, actually. Most of us knew this was coming so it's more resignation. Sure, people will come in here, but I imagine it's going to be a lot worse on the board in general.

All it'll take is a couple of people poking in the right spots for even this topic to burst for a few hours

I'm not saying it's going to remain perfectly civil here, but compared to the rest of the board?

The rest of the board is going to be awful.

i say that but i'm sure to venture out there quite a bit so i may not be helping matters
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#389 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/1/2013 7:45:02 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Most of the nastiness will come from LoL (edit: Reddit) invading trolls.

Stats vets have known what was coming for a long time. Link will be lucky to break 40% on Draven.


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#390 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:46:33 PM | message detail
ExTha doesn't count
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#391 | tgs2 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:48:21 PM | message detail
This match will probably rival or surpass Squall/Luigi for account suicides.
#392 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:48:34 PM | message detail
hey guys, for the upcoming match let's all post like Squall (the character) would!

.....whatever
#393 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/1/2013 7:48:49 PM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
This match will probably rival or surpass Squall/Luigi for account suicides.


I can't remember the last time I actually saw an account suicide on B8.

Might make for good times.
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#394 | creativename | Posted 9/1/2013 7:49:19 PM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
This match will probably rival or surpass Squall/Luigi for account suicides.

Do people still suicide? I thought that went out of style.

Then again, I never visit the rest of the board.
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#395 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:49:49 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
tgs2 posted...
This match will probably rival or surpass Squall/Luigi for account suicides.


I can't remember the last time I actually saw an account suicide on B8.

Might make for good times.


ESPECIALLY you!
#396 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/1/2013 7:50:29 PM | message detail
Especially me what?

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to suggest!
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#397 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:50:51 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Especially me what?

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to suggest!


1337gamerpr0 posted...
hey guys, for the upcoming match let's all post like Squall (the character) would!

.....whatever


this one
#398 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/1/2013 7:51:38 PM | message detail
Oh, I should talk like Squall?

...

...

...Eh.
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#399 | Magic8Squall | Posted 9/1/2013 7:52:04 PM | message detail
I guess I could bust out this account.
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#400 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/1/2013 7:52:38 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
ExTha doesn't count


MWC? Vlado? XIII (OK, no, comparing XIII to those guys is unfair even if he's been acting dumb as of late)? Joyrock?
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