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Well,
unless you think MMX has massive overlap with Mario (which I really
doubt), it seems pretty clear that Crono would be in the mid 40s against
Mario 1v1 over 24 hours. Now what that means for both isn't
really clear, but it's obvious Crono is still strong and the Noble Nine,
together with the upper near-elites, are all close together. Pity it'll
be a long while before we see fair 1v1s again! --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
I'm starting to think that Old Square boosting is just nonsense after all... --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Fayt_Esteed posted... I'm starting to think that Old Square boosting is just nonsense after all... I still think it's just Dissidia --- Want any VNs pre-patched? PM me. List of VNs can be found by clicking on my username. |
Everybody
has weakened considerably, and these lower votals have really pushed
together the gaps between the elites and everyone else. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Karma Hunter posted... CT has boosted in the past. That used to be a big 'thing' pre-2006. It had DS releases. And go releases in Europe for the first time. But that was ages ago --- http://s19.postimage.org/aosug5mrn/Persona4.png |
Everyone on the field has weakened except for FF9, Pokemon, and Metal Gear. Vivi is actually going to win the contest. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
End of Round 2 stats Zero - 2.83¢ Rikku - 2.00¢ Cube - 1.96¢ ? Block - 1.81¢ Claptrap - 1.63¢ Lenneth - 1.54¢ Lyndis - 1.01¢ Kratos - 1.00(09)¢ Boko - 1.00¢ Charizard - 7.02¢ Zelda - 7.01¢ Riku - 3.58¢ Marston - 3.09¢ DK - 2.89¢ Lightning - 2.43¢ Sackboy - 1.28¢ Nier - 1.26¢ Falco - 1.00¢ --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Even
with massive 70/30 overlap (something I don't buy at all), that'd put
Mario at about 57.5% right now and falling. Assuming as a conservative
estimate for Crono that Mario'd end at 55% in a 24 hour match and Crono
2013 = Squall 2010, Mario loses to Samus 2010 in a 53-47 affair. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Karma Hunter posted... Even with massive 70/30 overlap (something I don't buy at all), that'd put Mario at about 57.5% right now and falling. Assuming as a conservative estimate for Crono that Mario'd end at 55% in a 24 hour match and Crono 2013 = Squall 2010, Mario loses to Samus 2010 in a 53-47 affair. yeah, who says Samus hasn't also fallen since 2010 :P |
1337gamerpr0 posted... Karma Hunter posted...Even with massive 70/30 overlap (something I don't buy at all), that'd put Mario at about 57.5% right now and falling. Assuming as a conservative estimate for Crono that Mario'd end at 55% in a 24 hour match and Crono 2013 = Squall 2010, Mario loses to Samus 2010 in a 53-47 affair. Not an impossibility! My only point is that you can make extremely charitable assumptions for Mario in this match and it's still quite difficult to make him look good. Or rather, he can't look good without Crono looking good. The rankings of the NN where Mario is our #2 and Crono is simultaneously our #9 are nearly impossible to reconcile. You'd have to effectively draw the statistical equivalent of an inside straight to get that to work. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Kotetsu534 posted... Well, unless you think MMX has massive overlap with Mario (which I really doubt), it seems pretty clear that Crono would be in the mid 40s against Mario 1v1 over 24 hours. Now what that means for both isn't really clear, but it's obvious Crono is still strong and the Noble Nine, together with the upper near-elites, are all close together. Pity it'll be a long while before we see fair 1v1s again! Or Mario is just weaker. I'm sorry but an iconic guy like him should never lose to Vivi rally or not. He's pathetic now. Well done he's getting 55% on a guy who lives off a game released over 17 years ago. --- http://s19.postimage.org/aosug5mrn/Persona4.png |
So...so 8 years later...we're finally in a position where we're all pretty convinced that Samus > Mario indirectly? --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
The_Djoker posted... Kotetsu534 posted...Well, unless you think MMX has massive overlap with Mario (which I really doubt), it seems pretty clear that Crono would be in the mid 40s against Mario 1v1 over 24 hours. Now what that means for both isn't really clear, but it's obvious Crono is still strong and the Noble Nine, together with the upper near-elites, are all close together. Pity it'll be a long while before we see fair 1v1s again! Rally + Ganondorf dragging him down <_<. --- And I would do anything for bets, but I won't do that! No I won't do that! I am Sir Chris, the Knight that says NICK!!! |
1337gamerpr0 posted... Karma Hunter posted...Even with massive 70/30 overlap (something I don't buy at all), that'd put Mario at about 57.5% right now and falling. Assuming as a conservative estimate for Crono that Mario'd end at 55% in a 24 hour match and Crono 2013 = Squall 2010, Mario loses to Samus 2010 in a 53-47 affair. She probably has, but you know what Samus has that Mario doesn't? Badass factor. The factor you need to stay relevant if you don't have any games. Mario unfortunately gets 1 billion games per year to keep himself relevant. That's why she can indirectly put up better performances than Mario or close to him. --- http://s19.postimage.org/aosug5mrn/Persona4.png |
The_Djoker posted... 1337gamerpr0 posted...Karma Hunter posted...Even with massive 70/30 overlap (something I don't buy at all), that'd put Mario at about 57.5% right now and falling. Assuming as a conservative estimate for Crono that Mario'd end at 55% in a 24 hour match and Crono 2013 = Squall 2010, Mario loses to Samus 2010 in a 53-47 affair. Yet a good deal of other badass characters have stunk it up this contest... --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
but what about badass decline theory --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
XIII_rocks posted... So...so 8 years later...we're finally in a position where we're all pretty convinced that Samus > Mario indirectly? This isn't some static thing that never changes, or was retroactively the right thing. I dunno why a result that happened nearly a decade ago still holds sway today. Samus can be stronger than Mario, if this is the current site preference. We're not in the Nintendo years anymore. I've kind of accepted that Mario isn't the number two, or in contention for it, at least as far as this contest and multiways go. Samus probably does have a better claim at it. Doesn't mean she did in 2005. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Achromatic posted... The_Djoker posted...Kotetsu534 posted...Well, unless you think MMX has massive overlap with Mario (which I really doubt), it seems pretty clear that Crono would be in the mid 40s against Mario 1v1 over 24 hours. Now what that means for both isn't really clear, but it's obvious Crono is still strong and the Noble Nine, together with the upper near-elites, are all close together. Pity it'll be a long while before we see fair 1v1s again! Actually what it is is that a decent % the ff9 AND nintendo fans sided with vivi more. You put Samus in that match instead..she probably wins. --- http://s19.postimage.org/aosug5mrn/Persona4.png |
There's only one thing that will settle this Samus/Mario II: The SFF Strikes Back --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Fayt_Esteed posted... The_Djoker posted...1337gamerpr0 posted...Karma Hunter posted...Even with massive 70/30 overlap (something I don't buy at all), that'd put Mario at about 57.5% right now and falling. Assuming as a conservative estimate for Crono that Mario'd end at 55% in a 24 hour match and Crono 2013 = Squall 2010, Mario loses to Samus 2010 in a 53-47 affair. Being badass alone isn't going to get you votes. You need the games and the memorable factor too. If Cloud was Fat and a plumbre in FFVII. FFVII's stength would still be the same. Clouds wouldn't. Same with Crono. --- http://s19.postimage.org/aosug5mrn/Persona4.png |
Karma Hunter posted... There's only one thing that will settle this Unfortunately, the Nintendo fanbase sides with Mario. That's why their matches are loopsided. If had that poll and no Nintendo fans were allowed to vote. Samus wins. --- http://s19.postimage.org/aosug5mrn/Persona4.png |
Karma Hunter posted... There's only one thing that will settle this The stats topics it would take discussing this! --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Also,
Samus/Snake would be a good one, too. I feel like most would agree
Snake wins, but if Samus can crush her way through the Block and Snake
beats the Pokemon! Second place becomes first place finals redeemed. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
If Mario wins the better character wins the day and rSFF is potentially validated once and for all If Samus wins Ulti kills himself set it up bacon --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
ZFS posted... XIII_rocks posted...So...so 8 years later...we're finally in a position where we're all pretty convinced that Samus > Mario indirectly? Oh yeah I'm not saying it was necessarily right then, just that it's funny we've come back to this. And I still take Mario one-on-one. <_< --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
At this rate, we'll have a ton of questions and no answers by the time this contest is over... --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Fayt_Esteed posted... At this rate, we'll have a ton of questions and no answers by the time this contest is over... CBX: 1v1, no LoL characters only way we'll get anything |
Isn't that a good thing? Every contest poses new questions. --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
Threeways wouldn't be bad with a better bracket. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
ZFS posted... Threeways wouldn't be bad with a better bracket. in other words, if someone other than SBAllen ran it .....huh, it keeps coming back to that in the end! |
I'm
not sure what matches threeways really enhance. Unless it was kept to
an R1 thing that turns into 1v1 later on it just seems like it ruins
more matches than it gives us. Or it gives us crap like Vivi > Mario! And who doesn't like that result? --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
1337gamerpr0 posted... Not_Wylvane posted... If Link wins tomorrow, he's innocent. If Draven wins tomorrow, he's totally guilty. >_> --- Pokemon VGC2013 US National - 39th place Pokemon VGC2013 Worlds LCQ - Top 32 |
Can't argue with that logic! --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Karma Hunter posted... I'm not sure what matches threeways really enhance. Unless it was kept to an R1 thing that turns into 1v1 later on it just seems like it ruins more matches than it gives us. I love that result! --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
Team Rocket Elite posted... If Link wins tomorrow, he's innocent. TRE=best mod confirmed |
Check your inbox, XIII. Go Mario! --- I pwn you all! |
Karma Hunter posted... I'm not sure what matches threeways really enhance. Unless it was kept to an R1 thing that turns into 1v1 later on it just seems like it ruins more matches than it gives us. Well I'm convinced 1v1s it is --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
I
thought for sure Crono would be winning. I voted for X, and before I
did, I assumed that X would have SFF'd Mario to the point where Crono
would easily win. --- Brawl FC - 1332 8069 6690 http://i.imgur.com/OZ9aS.png |
Same here. I voted MMX, shame he's not doing so well. |
Hope you didn't base the assumption that Crono would win because of LFF on the Vivi match! --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Crono's
very possibly winning by a decent bit in a Mario/Crono/Ganondorf setup.
He's got close to 47% right now. MMX just doesn't have as close a
connection. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
If
we had wanted that CLASSIC CRONO/MARIO 50-50 CLASH, is there anyone
else we could put in the poll to weaken Mario enough? Everyone I could
think of would just tip the scales too far in Crono's favour. Would original Megaman do it? --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
Maybe the only way Crono > Mario is Link/Crono/Mario --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
Vivi --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Not_Wylvane posted... Vivi nah, Vivi just wins that 3-way outright |
Karma Hunter posted... Crono's very possibly winning by a decent bit in a Mario/Crono/Ganondorf setup. He's got close to 47% right now. MMX just doesn't have as close a connection. Seems possible. LFF is enough to make up plenty of gaps. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
And Link/Snake/Samus is still a technically alive final! dravennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Glad to see Crono doing better now than when I left. Not sure what this means for him 1v1 24 hours, but it's probably about in line with where I was thinking, if not perhaps slightly better than that. (This is late, but the Mario/Crono 1v1 discussion went something like: I made a comment suggesting Mario would 60-40 Crono, was immediately met with "whoa hold up there." red sox said 53-47 IIRC and HM and I both said it'd be worse than Mario/Crono 2005 and I went further and said at least 55%) --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
XIII_rocks posted... If we had wanted that CLASSIC CRONO/MARIO 50-50 CLASH, is there anyone else we could put in the poll to weaken Mario enough? Everyone I could think of would just tip the scales too far in Crono's favour. Put a LoL character in. Drive the votals up the roof and see if both Mario and Crono benefit from the spillover votes. Alternatively, try Pikachu and see if Mario can SFF hard enough to avoid jobbing. --- http://i.imgur.com/PL5UKJj.png Bearer of the Mark of Kan. |
OK guys, for anyone who actually *cares* about Draven not winning I hope you can take a couple minutes to make a Reddit account! If we can downvote any rallies early, we have a chance to kill them before they take over. Another idea someone mentioned was making extra topics so that the Draven rally topics don't appear in the "New" section, again lowering their visibility. Just pretend to ask some dumb question about LoL or a random champion if you (like me) know nothing about the game. Luster has said he'll try to do this with multiple accounts, but it would *very* little effort for anyone else to pitch in. So if you've been whining about Draven, take a few minutes to help and actually try do something about it. The chances are not good that this will work but they are most definitely non-zero. There is a huge random element as to which topics work on Reddit, and early downvotes can drastically affect visibility. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
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