Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1142

#51 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 11:07:07 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I don't see what choice I have in the matter!

I'll whine come match day don't worry, you can all see the butthurt live then


you have a choice
fire up your proxies for Link ;)
#52 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/1/2013 11:12:03 AM | message detail
Who's ready for some preliminary BASE DRAVEN STATS

Draven – 50.00%
Jak – 45.06%
Chie Satonaka – 39.42%
Vivi Ornitier – 29.51%
Mario – 29.45%
Pikachu – 29.12%
Crono – 26.91%
Mega Man X – 22.36%
Lloyd Irving – 17.97%
Big Daddy – 17.88%
Ryu – 17.72%
Ganondorf – 17.67%
Adam Jensen – 16.37%
Duke Nukem – 13.22%
Missile – 12.60%
Magus – 12.22%
Jigglypuff – 12.03%
Sarah Kerrigan – 11.82%
Yuri Lowell – 11.33%
Marisa Kirasame – 10.81%
Hal “Otacon” Emmerich – 10.14%
Face McShooty – 8.38%
Fawful – 7.67%
Guybrush Threepwood – 7.66%
Max Payne – 7.23%
Jade Curtis – 6.76%
Welkin Gunther – 6.34%
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#53 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/1/2013 11:13:16 AM | message detail
Hey, Vivi's Xstat value barely changed! LEGIT
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#54 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 11:13:43 AM | message detail
Chie projected for 60+% on Mario, this is hilarious
#55 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 11:13:47 AM | message detail
Two hours in, divvying up X's votes 60/40 gives Mario about 55.5% on Crono give or take at this point in the day match. Docking him a couple of percent for a 24 hour match... if red sox was right about Mario/Crono going 53/47 these days I'm going to laugh so hard.
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#56 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/1/2013 11:14:05 AM | message detail
Jak projected to double Mario

Tripled by Yoshi, doubles Mario

Seems legit
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#57 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/1/2013 11:14:30 AM | message detail
Jak > the Noble Nine.
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#58 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/1/2013 11:14:37 AM | message detail
Chie Satonaka – 39.42%
Vivi Ornitier – 29.51%
Mario – 29.45%
Pikachu – 29.12%


The only good thing that will come out of this contest.
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#59 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 9/1/2013 11:14:56 AM | message detail
Those x-stats are the best thing.
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#60 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/1/2013 11:14:57 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Also, to yo


FOOLED BY THE SIG AGAIN

Darn it KH
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#61 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/1/2013 11:15:25 AM | message detail
Chie > Squall

Sorry you had to see it like this Leon
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#62 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/1/2013 11:15:46 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Which makes me think, who'd be the next strongest CT character?


We only got data on Marle (30% on Aeris) and Lavos(55% on Mother Brain,45% on Liquid Snake) so uh..whoever is the 4th strongest CT character,it sure isn't a strong one!


I guess not, if Frog and Magus make a habit of embarrassing themselves nowadays...
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#63 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/1/2013 11:16:01 AM | message detail
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
Chie > Squall

Sorry you had to see it like this Leon


Just wait 'til Squall triples Vivi next round...!
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#64 | VeryInsane | Posted 9/1/2013 11:20:44 AM | message detail
I'd maybe test Robo out just because of his design.

Dat Robot Factor?

Also, gut says that the finals are going to be Draven/Snake/Samus, which is 2 series that aren't really hated (Barring Other M) going up against THE LEAGUE OF DRAVEN.

...I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they end up doing better on Draven than Link.
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#65 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 11:22:59 AM | message detail
Nah, Snake and Samus will cannibalize each other against the Draven machine. GameFAQs LFF, yo. Not sure which one would be favored in that context and end up above the other, but I'm kinda leaning toward Snake.
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#66 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 11:23:05 AM | message detail
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#67 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/1/2013 11:26:31 AM | message detail
I don't even need to say anything in response. I'm just choking back the giggles now.
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#68 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 11:28:05 AM | message detail
(Also I wasn't really fishing for your response, I was just parodying you generally. You responding was more of a bonus)
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#69 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/1/2013 11:28:52 AM | message detail
Whoever's keeping track of the day matches with the highest vote totals, can you post the list?
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#70 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 11:29:27 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I don't even need to say anything in response. I'm just choking back the giggles now.


Kanz your every post is so humiliating, so toxic, that even saying "I don't even need to say anything" is one of the worst posts ever in a stats topic
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#71 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 11:30:26 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Jak projected to double Mario

Tripled by Yoshi, doubles Mario

Seems legit


Yoshi to hextuple Mario?
these stats are accurate, BELIEVE
#72 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/1/2013 11:31:42 AM | message detail
lol I forgot about yoshi in this contest. Damn he had it bad. He would have done well in any other Bracket.
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#73 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 11:35:13 AM | message detail
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#74 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 11:37:08 AM | message detail
is Kanz back to calling everyone here whiny losers?
what a kanzcer
#75 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/1/2013 11:37:37 AM | message detail
You're speaking to yourself, you realize? Nobody cares. Not about me, not about you either. If you just want to hear the sound of your own voice, by all means keep talking, though.
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#76 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/1/2013 11:37:47 AM | message detail
Out in King's Canyon today, just checking in. Assuming this ends 53/47, it's a decent result for Crono.
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#77 | Achromatic | Posted 9/1/2013 11:39:49 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
You're speaking to yourself, you realize? Nobody cares. Not about me, not about you either. If you just want to hear the sound of your own voice, by all means keep talking, though.


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#78 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 11:41:46 AM | message detail | (edited)
I'll take a lack of a response as people getting the concept, tbh. I don't see how you can dispute the logic, even if you disagree with its effectiveness.

When I brought it up last time and there were like 4 or 5 responses saying it was "embarrassing to read" (KoolAid had yet to provide a genuine explanation for this) and such, I was kind of surprised people failed to understand a concept so simple.
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#79 | Whupassman | Posted 9/1/2013 11:42:09 AM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
Actually I'd like to settle this because I'm kind of nonplussed by the fact that nobody seems to get this very simple concept. Kanz is idiotic, so that's expected, but I feel like there are others who didn't quite get it.

Think of two people with Riot Shields. A formal argument is just two people attacking each other with those shields and only hitting the other person's Shield. That's fine, that's good, but really very little is going to change unless one person is significantly stronger or one shield is significantly weaker. It's just butting shields all day.

Ad Hominems are the equivalent of going past the shield, to the person wielding it. If somebody can't be convinced that their shield is actually upside-down, or some s***, you might - might - have to go past the shield and just give the person wielding it a slap to make them realise they're being dumb. It doesn't always do anything, but it's got more chance of changing them than butting shields. If an argument is surface, I believe any change will also be surface.


*is laughing picturing this*

Guy with shield #1: You had enough?
Guy with shield #2: No!

*continues*
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#80 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/1/2013 11:43:44 AM | message detail
Why is there a meltdown every other day in this topic.

This contest is messing with our brains.
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#81 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/1/2013 11:44:24 AM | message detail
And just think, we're on the verge of 24 hours of Link/Draven...!
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#82 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 11:45:23 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Why is there a meltdown every other day in this topic.

This contest is messing with our brains.


When Garrus lost I had a meltdown.

This is just me not understanding how smart people don't get a simple concept, but it seems that's changed.
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#83 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/1/2013 11:45:51 AM | message detail
It's f***in' philistine logic. You, and whatever critical thinking skills you claim to posses, lose merit with every subsequent post and errant metaphor that continues this line of thinking, that ad hominems would actually IMPROVE your argument, instead of making it seem so weak it needs to be bolstered with personal attacks that have nothing to do with the concept at hand.
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#84 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/1/2013 11:48:33 AM | message detail
Why are they not pming that crap to each other, why do they think other people want to read it?
#85 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/1/2013 11:49:13 AM | message detail
After the Pokemon fanbase failed me(because they suck,not because they lack numbers),I think the finals I really want to see is Snake/L-Block/Draven
This is going to be 4Chan rallying for L-Block in order to beat reddit,Reddit rallying for Draven in order to show how powerful the LoL swarm is,and Gamefaqs supporting Snake with him getting some of the votes from both rallies

Unless LoL rally pulls a massive zerg rush,this can be a legendary close match
#86 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/1/2013 11:52:31 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Why is there a meltdown every other day in this topic.

This contest is messing with our brains.


Bears reposting:

As the gods died and chaos spread, a gloomy haze of mistrust and desperation hung over the world. There was a growing sense that these might be the End Days.


More true than ever now that Mario and Crono are gone.
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#87 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/1/2013 11:55:05 AM | message detail | (edited)
Seriously, Dravens Reddit Rally makes L block look like Tanner. IF Reddit rallies. He will crush everything in it's path. L block got joke votes by a bunch of people on this site and other sites. draven is literally getting 100k+ votes(in a 24 hour match) from vastly more active site. And draven ins't actually a joke character, he's well known character in the most popular game of the last 4-5 years.
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#88 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 11:56:04 AM | message detail | (edited)
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
It's f***in' philistine logic. You, and whatever critical thinking skills you claim to posses, lose merit with every subsequent post and errant metaphor that continues this line of thinking, that ad hominems would actually IMPROVE your argument, instead of making it seem so weak it needs to be bolstered with personal attacks that have nothing to do with the concept at hand.


It's not about improving the argument, though. It's about making the other person realise their argument is stupid. Big difference.

Your very post proves my point, if anything. You seem to think that I personally lose merit by arguing this, that it makes me personally look like a 'philistine' or whatever. Would you not say that your approach is more likely to make me see the "error of my ways" than simply taking my post and politely discussing it? Do you not think that this more aggressive approach you've taken is more likely to change my opinion? If yes, you agree with me. If not, why do it in the first place? Does the idea of Ad Hominem having use incense you that much? You seem pretty well-adjusted so I can't see that being true.

(Note: my way does not have an error - it's a perfectly valid approach - but you clearly think it does and you're trying to make me see it.)
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#89 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 11:57:26 AM | message detail
lightning-02 posted...
Why are they not pming that crap to each other, why do they think other people want to read it?


I legitimately sent KoolAid a PM about this about an hour and a half ago. His lack of a response is what prompted my rants, because I was confused about the lack of understanding from otherwise smart people. KoolAid's post clears things up...not even one bit, actually, because all he said is "it's stupid because it's stupid" in a fancier way
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#90 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 11:57:47 AM | message detail
Please, Draven, save us from XiC
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#91 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 12:02:25 PM | message detail
Crono now reallllllly threatening to surpass his Mario/Crono 2005 percentage as we head into hour three.
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#92 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/1/2013 12:03:35 PM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...


It's not about improving the argument, though. It's about making the other person realise their argument is stupid. Big difference.



And you do this by calling Kanzer idiotic? That renders his argument null and void now?
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#93 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 12:08:29 PM | message detail
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
XIII_rocks posted...


It's not about improving the argument, though. It's about making the other person realise their argument is stupid. Big difference.



And you do this by calling Kanzer idiotic? That renders his argument null and void now?


just stating the truth :P
#94 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/1/2013 12:09:59 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
Seriously, Dravens Reddit Rally makes L block look like Tanner. IF Reddit rallies. He will crush everything in it's path. L block got joke votes by a bunch of people on this site and other sites. draven is literally getting 100k+ votes(in a 24 hour match) from vastly more active site. And draven ins't actually a joke character, he's well known character in the most popular game of the last 4-5 years.


You don't **** with 4chan
Sure you can laugh at /vp/,you can even giggle at /v/,but when they combine with the power of /b/ it can get dangerous
If they care enough,that's it...and L-Block might be the only thing that can make them care enough
#95 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/1/2013 12:10:29 PM | message detail
Can someone tell me about Megaman characters?
Megaman
Megaman X
Zero
Proto man.
Okay they are all robots obviously.But are they all good guys?And in the same timeline?
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#96 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/1/2013 12:12:11 PM | message detail
Vote total comparison so far:

Dante/Squirtle/Zidane at 3:00 PM - 12722
Mario/Crono/MMX at 3:00 PM - 12833

This match is just slightly ahead of Dante/Squirtle/Zidane, so we are getting around 33000 votes in this match.
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#97 | StarStormScream | Posted 9/1/2013 12:18:00 PM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
Can someone tell me about Megaman characters?
Megaman
Megaman X
Zero
Proto man.
Okay they are all robots obviously.But are they all good guys?And in the same timeline?


All "good guys" Megaman & Protoman are from the original timeline. X & Zero are in the future timeline.
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#98 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 12:21:22 PM | message detail | (edited)
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
XIII_rocks posted...


It's not about improving the argument, though. It's about making the other person realise their argument is stupid. Big difference.



And you do this by calling Kanzer idiotic? That renders his argument null and void now?


Eh? No? I distinctly stated that it doesn't always work, but I think it's better than just allowing stupidity to pass unchecked. Politeness and attacking only the argument only takes you so far; I'm not interested in having the same argument over and over, and for that to change one or both people need to change. The argument being so sufficiently defeated that it never crops up again is very, very rare, especially without data changing (you can have a friendly argument over contest matches because in a couple of weeks, the argument will hopefully be settled by the result. Not so with a lot of other debates). But if you have some affect on the person, they're less likely to repeat. That's just obvious, and no amount of snide remarks from KH will ever change that.

I'm being painted as this person who must use ad hominem to get through to people, or that I see it as such an effective weapon that it's an auto-win. An odd misread - I said it has a chance of working, and a better chance of working than conventional argument on certain occasions. I think it has some use, and the people who think it's some sort of "auto-lose" honestly come off as kind of naive and insecure.

And like I said, telling me I was using "f***ing philistine logic" and that I was "losing all merit" is exactly the aggressive approach you are putting down. It's as I said - do you think that approach was more or less likely to change me than politely describing why I was "wrong"? And if it was less, why did you even use it in the first place?
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#99 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/1/2013 12:19:47 PM | message detail
I still don't understand the "X is doing as expected"
There was some talk about him being stronger than some of the Noble Nine before this match,Charmander even took him over Crono
Crono doing 58% is certainly nothing that I expected

This match makes no sense no matter how I look at it

If Crono is doing better than expected,it makes Vivi>Mario looks so weird
If Crono is doing just as expected,it makes X looks very weak
If Mario is doing worse than expected,than it makes X looks veeeeery weak and Vivi godlike

In any case,X is looking bad
#100 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 12:21:17 PM | message detail
X is getting some SFF and LPFed to an extent so I wouldn't pay attention to his percentage. Mario/Crono is where it's at (and yeah, not looking that good for Mario atm).
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