Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1141

#151 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 9/1/2013 6:43:11 AM | message detail
Suits Jecht's style to show up once, impress and never return. That way he can be brought up with nostalgia whenever Tidus/Yuna/Rikku throw in bad showings. They'll never escape his shadow now.
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#152 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/1/2013 6:43:30 AM | message detail
lightning-02 posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
Mewtwo>Sonic could happen, Sonic's pretty dependent on Nintendo. Squirtle vs. Cloud, if Cloud and Dante are consistent Cloud should win NARROWLY. I think Squirtle will wreck face for the first few hours at least. This doesn't reflect badly on Charizard though. Going up against Zelda in a SFF match will not end well for you.


Why would Dante be consistent when his series laid one of the biggest turds ever seen in the industry between this and the last contest?
And if Sonic is kind of dependent on Nintendo, Mewtwo is totally dependent. I would think this poll with Donkey Kong not really being a clear drain to anyone would quash the myth of Pokemon being independent from Nintendo. The notion of Bowser overlapping more with Sonic was the only reason people were talking about a Mewtwo upset.


God dammit people, DmC is a GOOD GAME.

Anyway, the reason I don't think that would hurt Dante too much is because the not people who care are those voting for Dante anyway, same with Samus and Other M and she's looked great.
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#153 | FantomXD | Posted 9/1/2013 6:43:52 AM | message detail
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#154 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 9/1/2013 6:49:35 AM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
Suits Jecht's style to show up once, impress and never return. That way he can be brought up with nostalgia whenever Tidus/Yuna/Rikku throw in bad showings. They'll never escape his shadow now.


Speaking of FFX characters with one appearance, can FFX ever escape the shadow of Sin?

After all, if you hold Fin vs. Robotnik as constant (don't burst my bubble), Sin comes really close to making Round 2 this year.
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#155 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/1/2013 6:52:15 AM | message detail
Bonus Match II: (1) Mario vs. (1) Crono vs. (7) Mega Man X

Previous Round

Vivi – 41.27%
Mario – 41.09%
Ganondorf – 17.64%

Pikachu – 47.07%
Crono – 40.42%
Magus – 12.51%

Draven – 66.52%
Mega Man X – 19.15%
Ryu – 14.32%

Analysis

To the average voter this match makes no sense, if SBAllen wanted to use the three highest percent losers Luigi would have been here instead of Mega Man X so this match is a simple fan service to board 8. Mario should be the strongest out of the three, but his performance against Vivi was pretty bad no matter how you look at it. Is it a combination of massive LFF and rallying or has Mario lost a step, you cannot be so sure, but maybe this match will shed some light on it.

In hindsight Crono looking this weak was expected. There was no way he was still has strong as Squall like most of the board had him and Pikachu is not so weak to be unable to capitalize on the LFF. Whether Crono defeats Pikachu in a fair match is debatable, but what is clear is they are at around the same strength which is not good news for Crono.

Mega Man X looked the best out of the three characters. His performance against Ryu places him above all the characters outside of the noble nine. There is debate on how much Mega Man X benefitted from counter-rallies relative to Ryu, but considering Mega Man X was doing better against Ryu before the rallies began and taking into account vote trends for Mega Man X at night I doubt the percent was screwed by much.

It is possible Mario and Mega Man X could LFF each other and give Crono a chance to not finish in last, but considering Crono was also on the SNES I feel the LFF would be somewhat counter balanced. Mario is a bit of a wildcard and should he indeed be a lot weaker Mega Man X could go for first.

charmander6000’s Fake Bracket: Mario > Mega Man X and Crono

charmander6000’s Prediction: Mario – 38.34%, Mega Man X – 33.73%, Crono – 27.93%
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#156 | xp1337 | Posted 9/1/2013 6:55:10 AM | message detail
I will never give up on the dream.

Crono - 36%
Mario - 35%
MMX - 29%
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#157 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/1/2013 7:19:01 AM | message detail
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I'm quite happy with Zelda winning. People were hyping Charizard waaaaaay too much.

Zelda's pic is very good, btw. The cartoony style stands out very well and is really pretty.


I guess this board just clouded my judgement (Charizard won Leonhart's character contest while Zelda has next to no popularity on the board), but to be fair the Zelda > Charizard upset just made no sense from a logical standpoint. It's a princess vs. A FREAKING DRAGON. And heck, if my FREAKING DRAGON logic worked for picking Spyro over a little girl, why the heck did it flop for Charizard against a freaking princess who only sporadically does things people give a darn about (seriously, her roles as Tetra and Sheik...and that's it).

In hindsight, 2008 was probably her best contest until now, and it will remain her best contest should Zelda somehow choke here. Getting 38% on Mario...yeah.

Did Zelda seriously do worse against SAMUS in 2010 than she did against MARIO in 2008? It would at least support my theory that the Zelda characters were all at a low in the 2010 character battle and have boosted since then due to Majora's Mask and Wind Waker gaining in popularity since then (even though Twilight Princess has gradually been dropping).

Alternately:

1) Female character boost.
2) It's not like Mario has done well this year, lol.
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#158 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/1/2013 7:20:53 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
LMS, have you considered not basing your opinions on those of random people on the Internet and actually playing the game?


It's not an opinion. I'm only stating what I've heard, and that's all.
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#159 | xp1337 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:28:34 AM | message detail
I'm mildly uncomfortable with this stall/slow comeback. I was really hoping Zelda could pull into the last hour up 200+ as a safeguard against any last-ditch efforts on Charizard's part.

It's looking like it's going to be 100, if not lower, and that's going to have me worried.
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#160 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:30:40 AM | message detail
Nice cut there.
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#161 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:30:49 AM | message detail
charizard cuts 40 all of a sudden. let the worry commence
#162 | Kibago | Posted 9/1/2013 7:30:59 AM | message detail
*perks up*
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#163 | xp1337 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:32:21 AM | message detail
...

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#164 | Solid_Mike86 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:32:47 AM | message detail
Come on Zelda! I'm tired of pokemon winning all the matches.
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#165 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/1/2013 7:34:35 AM | message detail
Charizard, you can do it!
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#166 | ff6man | Posted 9/1/2013 7:35:21 AM | message detail
Come on Charizard, I'm tired of LoZ winning all their matches.
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#167 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/1/2013 7:35:46 AM | message detail
This has been going on over and over all match. I'll be surprised if Charizard actually comes back completely.
#168 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/1/2013 7:37:13 AM | message detail
Another cut, albeit a small one.
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#169 | xp1337 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:37:22 AM | message detail
Close match advantage has to go to Charizard, IMO.

I mean, just ask yourself, who is more likely to be rallied in a last minute situation?

which is a shame because this would be an honest upset if zelda can hold out these last 85 minutes.
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#170 | Kibago | Posted 9/1/2013 7:37:33 AM | message detail
COME ON YOU CHARIZARD
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#171 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 9/1/2013 7:37:52 AM | message detail
Donkey Kong is the best character in this poll. I wish he was actually strong on this site.

I'm totally cool with Charizard winning too though. Go for the critical hit, buddy!
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#172 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 7:39:20 AM | message detail
Can't you just feel the fierce, pathetic desperation?
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#173 | raytan7585 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:39:38 AM | message detail
POKEMON DOMINATION! GOGOGO!

Also,

Mario 49.95%
Crono 50.05%
MMX 0.00%
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#174 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/1/2013 7:40:46 AM | message detail
Now it's close!
#175 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/1/2013 7:40:50 AM | message detail
41-vote cut! Next update could be it!
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#176 | xp1337 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:40:52 AM | message detail
well you tried zelda

i will remember your valiant effort
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#177 | Kibago | Posted 9/1/2013 7:40:52 AM | message detail
FLAMETHROWER
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#178 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/1/2013 7:41:36 AM | message detail
Holy s***, another insane cut by Charizard.
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#179 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 7:41:43 AM | message detail
'guys Pokemon doesn't get rallied besides even if it did it wouldn't make a difference that's crazy'
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#180 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 7:41:47 AM | message detail
oh, yes.
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#181 | Kibago | Posted 9/1/2013 7:42:00 AM | message detail
pokemon you wonderful good guy underdog hero of the people, striking back against the tyranny of zeldafaqs

how bout that ff7 and the way it wins every year
get it squirtle
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#182 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:42:15 AM | message detail
Gonna put a thread up on /v/ for Zelda, see what happens
#183 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 7:42:21 AM | message detail
DO IT CHARIZARD YOU MAGNIFICENT SON OF A B****
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#184 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:43:17 AM | message detail
Pokemon does not allow fun. It does at least save my expert bracket, though I'm sceptical that any of the leaders actually banked (or risked Zelda) here anyway.
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#185 | pjbasis | Posted 9/1/2013 7:43:26 AM | message detail
Rallies, making matches boring since 2002
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#186 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 7:43:43 AM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
Pokemon does not allow fun. It does at least save my expert bracket, though I'm sceptical that any of the leaders actually banked (or risked Zelda) here anyway.


Oh I'm having a lot of fun
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#187 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 9/1/2013 7:43:49 AM | message detail
Sorry Luigi, it's actually the year of rallying.
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#188 | xp1337 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:44:10 AM | message detail
I have to assume everyone in Expert had Charizard here. Seems like a weird place for the hivemind to break ranks.
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#189 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 9/1/2013 7:44:44 AM | message detail
Yeeeeeees my bracket @_@
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#190 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:45:06 AM | message detail
Damn it Charizard don't take my upset away
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#191 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 9/1/2013 7:45:31 AM | message detail
He leads lmfao
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#192 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/1/2013 7:45:33 AM | message detail
28-vote swing; Charizard has the lead!
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#193 | xp1337 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:45:41 AM | message detail
Doubt Zelda sees the lead again.
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#194 | spooky96 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:45:44 AM | message detail
Wooooo HOO!!!!!!
#195 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/1/2013 7:45:47 AM | message detail
Yes, lead!
#196 | raytan7585 | Posted 9/1/2013 7:45:52 AM | message detail
Fire Blast!
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#197 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 7:46:26 AM | message detail
Yeah this only matters for the bracket challenge, which will be viable for all of one more day before Draven slaughters Link. Good for him, too, who wouldn't want that result here?
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#198 | ZFS | Posted 9/1/2013 7:46:47 AM | message detail
Wow. Man, Pokemon is terrible.
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#199 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/1/2013 7:47:04 AM | message detail
*Flips table*.
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#200 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/1/2013 7:47:24 AM | message detail
All of ZFS' dreams being crushed this round
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