Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1141

#451 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:12:03 AM | message detail | (edited)
/vp/ annoys me and I really wish that Pokemon fans were at least something like those LoL fans
I can assure you that at least 50% of the people who voted for Draven doesn't even like him,but they voted because he represnts LoL
And the vp comments about Charizard? insane hate that I have no idea where it's coming from
Although I don't care what they say(about voting for Zelda and that nobody likes Charizard) because 30 minutes after the vp rally was posted,Charizard average votes rose by like 40

But still it annoys me im part of the same fanbase
#452 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 10:04:09 AM | message detail
Oh, and if anyone needs a refresher of how bad Crono's day vote is - in Sonic/Crono, a match Sonic won with 50.77%, during the height of the day vote he was pulling down 53-54% hours against Crono. The difference between Crono's night and day vote is unreal.

I mean, if you care about talking about an obviously useless bonus match or anything.
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#453 | im317 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:04:46 AM | message detail
when are we going to get match pics for the next round? how am i supposed to make expert picks without match picks?
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#454 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 9/1/2013 10:04:52 AM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
Oh wait, this is a bonus match. I better change from the character I would have originally voted for if it was a regular match!


This is actually possible. A bonus match could mean less rallying since the result doesn't matter. Also there's definitely no bracket/expert challenge votes. It could actually be more legitimate than a legitimate contest match. I guess that's even worse for TsunamiXXVIII's post, though.
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#455 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:06:31 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
/vp/ annoys me and I really wish that Pokemon fans were at least something like Draven
I can assure you that at least 50% of the people who voted for Draven doesn't even like him,but they voted because he represnts LoL
And the vp comments about Charizard? insane hate that I have no idea where it's coming from
Although I don't care what they say(about voting for Zelda and that nobody likes Charizard) because 30 minutes after the vp rally was posted,Charizard average votes rose by like 40

But still it annoys me im part of the same fanbase


see, LoL really is the most dronish fanbase of them all
#456 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 10:08:36 AM | message detail
People don't post in rally threads to say they agree with the rally. They just go and vote. We have a term 'vocal minority' for a reason. Charizard's big rallies bailed it out hard against what would have been a humiliating defeat.

Instead, he gets a humiliating win! Serves that LAWbreaker right
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#457 | spooky96 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:09:50 AM | message detail
im317 posted...
when are we going to get match pics for the next round? how am i supposed to make expert picks without match picks?


There will be more than 1 image used for further matches if I'm not mistaken.
#458 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 10:10:11 AM | message detail
Win was glorious. Beat a near-elite in Zelda, f***ing awesome. I picked it but I was a bit sceptical (I've got MM next round).
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#459 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/1/2013 10:15:17 AM | message detail
With Blue's uninspiring performance on Nathan Drake, as well as Charizard doing about everything he could to disappoint his backers short of actually losing, does anyone else get the feeling that Pokémon might be in for a sudden collapse, like what happened to Zelda in 2004?
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#460 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 10:16:39 AM | message detail
Pokemon isn't going to get shut out like Zelda did in 2004. Zelda could (and should) have beaten Charizard to make that a remote possibility, but Charizard > Mega Man is a lock upon locks with Zero in the poll.
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#461 | SnoicFactor | Posted 9/1/2013 10:17:17 AM | message detail
look at damage control zelda fans, its great
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#462 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:18:41 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
/vp/ annoys me and I really wish that Pokemon fans were at least something like Draven
I can assure you that at least 50% of the people who voted for Draven doesn't even like him,but they voted because he represnts LoL
And the vp comments about Charizard? insane hate that I have no idea where it's coming from
Although I don't care what they say(about voting for Zelda and that nobody likes Charizard) because 30 minutes after the vp rally was posted,Charizard average votes rose by like 40

But still it annoys me im part of the same fanbase


see, LoL really is the most dronish fanbase of them all


I know right
Teemo is like the Jigglypuff of Pokemon-no one was going to rally for Jigglypuff
But Most of the Pokemon fanbase should like Charizard,he is a ****ing dragon and the best gen 1 starter
Also the best Pokemon Ash had in the anime
What is there not to like?!?!
#463 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 10:18:47 AM | message detail
Also, one hour into this useless bonus match that you should not pay any attention to when formulating your opinions whatsoever.

Rank the Noble Nine! (feel free to give input on what non-NNers could beat certain Nobles 1v1 if you have some)
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#464 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 9/1/2013 10:18:49 AM | message detail
Blue did a fine job against Drake and tripled another Nintendo character in the process. Pokemon can only "collapse" if Red and/or Charizard fail in their enormously advantageous R3 positions. The other characters - Squirtle and Mewtwo - weren't even expected to make it this far pre-contest, let alone win. Pikachu and Blue are in a situation where winning is almost impossible.
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#465 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/1/2013 10:19:58 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
/vp/ annoys me and I really wish that Pokemon fans were at least something like Draven
I can assure you that at least 50% of the people who voted for Draven doesn't even like him,but they voted because he represnts LoL
And the vp comments about Charizard? insane hate that I have no idea where it's coming from
Although I don't care what they say(about voting for Zelda and that nobody likes Charizard) because 30 minutes after the vp rally was posted,Charizard average votes rose by like 40

But still it annoys me im part of the same fanbase


see, LoL really is the most dronish fanbase of them all


I know right
Teemo is like the Jigglypuff of Pokemon-no one was going to rally for Jigglypuff
But Most of the Pokemon fanbase should like Charizard,he is a ****ing dragon and the best gen 1 starter
Also the best Pokemon Ash had in the anime
What is there not to like?!?!


And yet he nearly choked away a match to Zelda... What the hell?
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#466 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 10:20:52 AM | message detail
Snake, then LMS in that order, then the rest
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#467 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 10:21:00 AM | message detail
Crono comeback initiated

classic match incoming
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#468 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/1/2013 10:21:08 AM | message detail
lol Crono
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#469 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 10:21:59 AM | message detail
augh that chef gif is making me confuse users

confusers
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#470 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 9/1/2013 10:22:37 AM | message detail
Link
Mario
Samus
Snake
Mega Man
Sonic
Cloud
Sephiroth
Crono
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#471 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:22:55 AM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
Snake, then LMS in that order, then the rest


I see what you did there
#472 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/1/2013 10:22:57 AM | message detail
wouldn't call 'zard > Mega Man a lock. if you buy there being some rSFF here then you'd also run the possibility of Mega Man doing it. Zelda series might be the best at it, but Zelda herself hasn't been capable of it over the stronger characters. if there's some badass character overlap between 'zard and Zero it'll hurt him. if there's some quasi-Nintendo vote for Mega Man over 'zard, that'll hurt him.

'zard's totally the favorite though. i just wouldn't consider anything a lock in this contest if there's something resembling a plausible defense. especially with a performance like that today.
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#473 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/1/2013 10:23:42 AM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
This is actually possible. A bonus match could mean less rallying since the result doesn't matter. Also there's definitely no bracket/expert challenge votes. It could actually be more legitimate than a legitimate contest match. I guess that's even worse for TsunamiXXVIII's post, though.


The important thing to remember about all contest matches is the fact the large majority of voters don't even have a contest entry, so their vote will not be influenced by the fact this match is a bonus match.
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#474 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/1/2013 10:25:13 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Also, one hour into this useless bonus match that you should not pay any attention to when formulating your opinions whatsoever.

Rank the Noble Nine! (feel free to give input on what non-NNers could beat certain Nobles 1v1 if you have some)


Link > Cloud> Sephiroth > Snake > Samus > Mario > Mega Man > Sonic > Crono
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#475 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 10:25:38 AM | message detail
Oh wow, still a lot of Mario > Samus believe goin' on up in here. I kinda like it.

...how close do you people expect a Samus/Crono match to be...?
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#476 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/1/2013 10:25:57 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I've already argued strenuously that X should be hurting Mario a bit, if you went and missed it.

Still tough to see this not being another underwhelming performance for Mario at this point. How many of us would really still take Crono > Squall now?


I guess it's underwhelming if you expected Mario to 60-40 Crono like I did, but...what happened to that fabled "old Square boost"?

More surprising is that Mario is 60-40'ing someone he once almost lost to, and making X look about identical in strength to Mega Man classic. If you assume that Mario isn't SFFing him (since Mario SFFing a character he almost lost to once makes no sense), this confirms that X is weaker than Mega Man.

Question: What would you guys have picked for the bonus poll if Mario didn't lose?
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#477 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/1/2013 10:26:38 AM | message detail
How close do you expect Samus/L-Block to be is the question
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#478 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 9/1/2013 10:26:43 AM | message detail
According to preference:

Link
Samus
Snake/Sephiroth/Cloud/Crono
Mario/Mega Man
Sonic
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#479 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/1/2013 10:26:49 AM | message detail
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Also, one hour into this useless bonus match that you should not pay any attention to when formulating your opinions whatsoever.

Rank the Noble Nine! (feel free to give input on what non-NNers could beat certain Nobles 1v1 if you have some)


Link > Cloud> Sephiroth > Snake > Samus > Mario > Mega Man > Sonic > Crono


I don't see how anyone could possibly pick Sephiroth over Snake after their match in 2010.
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#480 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:28:03 AM | message detail
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Link > Cloud> Sephiroth > Snake > Samus > Mario > Mega Man > Sonic > Crono


wut
I'll go with Snake=Link>Cloud>Mario>Samus>Sephiroth>Mega Man>Sonic>Crono
dunno about the middle part though
#481 | swordz9 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:28:04 AM | message detail
Link
Mario
Snake
Samus
Sonic
Mega Man
Cloud
Sephiroth
Crono

I guess that's what I'd go with. Normally I'd put Cloud and Sephiroth higher, but the FF7 guys have been looking pretty awful. I really wouldn't be surprised to see Cloud lose to Squirtle and Sephiroth lose to Big Boss and/or Kirby.
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#482 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 9/1/2013 10:28:49 AM | message detail
Link
Snake
Mario
Samus
Cloud
Megaman
Sephiroth
Sonic
Crono
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#483 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/1/2013 10:29:22 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Blue did a fine job against Drake and tripled another Nintendo character in the process. Pokemon can only "collapse" if Red and/or Charizard fail in their enormously advantageous R3 positions. The other characters - Squirtle and Mewtwo - weren't even expected to make it this far pre-contest, let alone win. Pikachu and Blue are in a situation where winning is almost impossible.


Ehhh, personally, I wasn't impressed by Blue's performance on Drake, considering that Drake struggled against Pac-Man. What'd he get on Drake again? 56%?
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#484 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/1/2013 10:29:24 AM | message detail
I still take Mario over any of the Square Pretty Boys Club. I think Cloud and Sephiroth are frauds, and Kirby has a great chance of exposing ExTha's boy next round
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#485 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 10:29:31 AM | message detail
Everyone's seeing what's happening to Mario right now right

I was joking about the not paying attention to the useless bonus match PAY ATTENTION TO ITS USELESSNESS
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#486 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:29:37 AM | message detail
Link > Snake > Mario > Samus > Cloud > Sonic > Mega Man > Sephiroth > Crono

As for personal preference: Link > Sonic > Sephiroth > Samus > Mega Man > Cloud > Mario > Crono > Snake
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#487 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/1/2013 10:29:52 AM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Also, one hour into this useless bonus match that you should not pay any attention to when formulating your opinions whatsoever.

Rank the Noble Nine! (feel free to give input on what non-NNers could beat certain Nobles 1v1 if you have some)


Link > Cloud> Sephiroth > Snake > Samus > Mario > Mega Man > Sonic > Crono


I don't see how anyone could possibly pick Sephiroth over Snake after their match in 2010.


Deluded FFVII fanboy that's who.

Snake is probably #2 on this site.
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#488 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 10:31:43 AM | message detail | (edited)
Karma Hunter posted...
Oh wow, still a lot of Mario > Samus believe goin' on up in here. I kinda like it.


Well it's mostly because it's hard to ever think about taking Samus over Mario after 2005. I know you asked for an indirect ranking, but I just find it difficult to consider Mario > Samus - even though Samus remains a f***ing beast and Mario lost to Vivi.

It'd be pretty awesome if the Square 3 were the bottom 3, but I'm not sure I could imagine taking Sonic > Cloud in my wildest dreams. I'm too stuck in the old days when the best two N9ers were the worst two.
(Thus why 2006 was so good because both of them stepped up)
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#489 | Dabrikishaw15 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:30:41 AM | message detail
I'll go with Link > Snake > Mario > Samus > Cloud > Sonic > Mega Man > Sephiroth > Crono
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#490 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2013 10:30:58 AM | message detail
...well, okay then, Crono. I see you aren't taking this being put at the bottom of all these lists well!
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#491 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/1/2013 10:31:00 AM | message detail
Wait, Charizard WON!?!

LOL LOL LOL LOL THAT IS AMAZING
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#492 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/1/2013 10:31:56 AM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
...You guys are doing it again.

You're acting as if bonus matches actually tell us something about characters' strengths.


Personally I thought this match looked legit. But what do I know.
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#493 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:32:20 AM | message detail | (edited)
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Nanis23 posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
/vp/ annoys me and I really wish that Pokemon fans were at least something like Draven
I can assure you that at least 50% of the people who voted for Draven doesn't even like him,but they voted because he represnts LoL
And the vp comments about Charizard? insane hate that I have no idea where it's coming from
Although I don't care what they say(about voting for Zelda and that nobody likes Charizard) because 30 minutes after the vp rally was posted,Charizard average votes rose by like 40

But still it annoys me im part of the same fanbase


see, LoL really is the most dronish fanbase of them all


I know right
Teemo is like the Jigglypuff of Pokemon-no one was going to rally for Jigglypuff
But Most of the Pokemon fanbase should like Charizard,he is a ****ing dragon and the best gen 1 starter
Also the best Pokemon Ash had in the anime
What is there not to like?!?!


And yet he nearly choked away a match to Zelda... What the hell?


Based upon what I read from the comments,most of the hate for Charizard is because of the hate for genwunners (the people that only like the first gen) and Charizard is pretty much the biggest representive of "genwunners"...along with Mewtwo
So it's going to spell bad things for him in the upcoming match with Sonic

I really,really believe that rallying the entire Pokemon fanbase in the fansites could create an army that matches the Draven Army,but I didn't take into consideration how much "troubled" the Pokemon fans can be

Hopefully Squirtle is immune to hate..no one can hate Squirtle!
#494 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:32:20 AM | message detail
Not sure what you can take from this match, I'd still take MMX > Crono
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#495 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2013 10:32:50 AM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
Wait, Charizard WON!?!

LOL LOL LOL LOL THAT IS AMAZING


Right over here buddy.
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#496 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/1/2013 10:33:05 AM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Also, one hour into this useless bonus match that you should not pay any attention to when formulating your opinions whatsoever.

Rank the Noble Nine! (feel free to give input on what non-NNers could beat certain Nobles 1v1 if you have some)


Link > Cloud> Sephiroth > Snake > Samus > Mario > Mega Man > Sonic > Crono


I don't see how anyone could possibly pick Sephiroth over Snake after their match in 2010.


Errr, nagging doubts? I actually think Snake's stronger now, but...
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#497 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 9/1/2013 10:33:23 AM | message detail
Well, you yourself made the claim that the Sonic crew could easily be part of the Nintendo family after Knuckles came uncomfortably close to Catherine (presumably forced down there by Samus's SFF power). If it's possible for the Sonic crew, why not the Mega Man crew? Mega Man, Proto-Man, Wily, X, and Zero all made their names on the NES/SNES. Apart from Marvel vs. Capcom, they've all been practically invisible for the average GameFAQs voter since then. As far as I'm concerned, X is hurting Mario here, and considering what Ganondorf's presence led to, X might be hurting Mario substantially. This is practically Nintendo/Square/Nintendo once again, yet Mario is winning.
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#498 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:33:46 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Based upon what I read from the comments,most of the hate for Charizard is because of the hate for genwunners (the people that only like the first gen) and Charizard is pretty much the biggest representive of "genwunners"...along with Mewtwo
So it's going to spell bad things for him in the upcoming match with Sonic

I really,really believe that rallying the entire Pokemon fanbase in the fansites could create an army that matches the Draven Army,but I didn't take into consideration how much "troubled" the Pokemon fans can be

Hopefully Squirtle is immune to hate..no one can hate Squirtle!


Pokemon fanbase is the most dronish fanbase argument DESTROYED
#499 | hylianknight3 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:33:52 AM | message detail
Play Super Mario World.
#500 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/1/2013 10:34:15 AM | message detail
Play Chrono Trigger