Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1140

#301 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/31/2013 9:33:17 PM | message detail
Julian_Caesar posted...
GloryChaos posted...
People were certain that Charles was going to win this?

I thought that this was up in the air since this was a pure Nintendo match. That, and people were saying that Charizard's victory over Bowser wasn't exactly legitimate anyway.


Yeah, we were...well most of us anyway. Zelda is always OK in contests because it's Zelda, but Charizard is a fairly recognizable Pokemon, plus he's the most badass-looking of them. I just wouldn't have predicted her to beat him.

Which she may not do anyway. The night is young and we don't really understand these "trend" things anymore.


Well, Donkey Kong aside, I thought the match was somewhat debatable. Granted, we aren't even out of the first hour yet.

ZFS posted...
It's the Link fans for sure it has been a week of prep time LINK will win


Everything is going according to plan. Link fans voted for Vivi to make sure Mario never made it to the finals. And now Zelda is being prepared as a back up plan just in case Link falls.
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#302 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/31/2013 9:33:53 PM | message detail
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Wasn't that just because Zero was in the poll?

I'd consider taking the trio over Crono though.


Nah, there was talk of it before the bracket was revealed.
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#303 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/31/2013 9:34:38 PM | message detail
I mean

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3250
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3851

Pokemon very, very rarely folds under SFF pressure. To pull out that card here doesn't make sense to me.
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#304 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 8/31/2013 9:34:39 PM | message detail
Clearly non-human Nintendo SFF.
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#305 | ZFS | Posted 8/31/2013 9:34:45 PM | message detail
Link is the hopes and dreams of everyone
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#306 | SnoicFactor | Posted 8/31/2013 9:37:12 PM | message detail
;D
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#307 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 8/31/2013 9:38:20 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
I mean

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3250
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3851

Pokemon very, very rarely folds under SFF pressure. To pull out that card here doesn't make sense to me.


Yeah, this.

Also, Zard is stalling. Should be quite interesting to see what happens over the next hour or so.
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#308 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/31/2013 9:39:37 PM | message detail
While this may be a case of hindsight, I, in all my Zelda fanboyism, may have picked Zelda here had I figured DK would have been the third entrant. It's Lightning's presumed presence that so easily tipped the scales in zard's favor. No way would I take him to drop a match against two pretty princesses.
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#309 | CP724 | Posted 8/31/2013 9:40:47 PM | message detail
over
#310 | xp1337 | Posted 8/31/2013 9:40:49 PM | message detail
Hahaha, where did that update come from?
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#311 | ZFS | Posted 8/31/2013 9:40:59 PM | message detail
Lightning is what now
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#312 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/31/2013 9:41:10 PM | message detail
Yup. Pokemon can't afford to ever be losing in the early vote.
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#313 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/31/2013 9:41:16 PM | message detail
#314 | ZFS | Posted 8/31/2013 9:41:36 PM | message detail
No chance Draven!
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#315 | Scarlettail | Posted 8/31/2013 9:41:40 PM | message detail
Tip of the hat to Zelda. Way to bring it.
#316 | im317 | Posted 8/31/2013 9:42:00 PM | message detail
lets not count out a Pokerally
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#317 | cyko | Posted 8/31/2013 9:42:05 PM | message detail
This contest makes no ******* sense anymore.
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#318 | spooky96 | Posted 8/31/2013 9:42:13 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Zelda with the KILL SHOT


Yeah that was a huge one.
#319 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/31/2013 9:42:18 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
Lightning is what now


No one knows nor cares. She only served to give Charizard enough Stand Out Factor against Zelda, and her stupid ass couldn't even do that.
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#320 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/31/2013 9:42:32 PM | message detail
...you know if Link somehow beats Draven, Zelda is literally the best possible third option Link could have in a final match against Snake.

CONSPIRACY
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#321 | z0mgthiefbeef | Posted 8/31/2013 9:42:48 PM | message detail
Huge gain for zelda wow
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#322 | ZFS | Posted 8/31/2013 9:43:24 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
...you know if Link somehow beats Draven, Zelda is literally the best possible third option Link could have in a final match against Snake.

CONSPIRACY


the princess knows when to fold
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#323 | Greyfeld | Posted 8/31/2013 9:43:45 PM | message detail
All that was, was Charizard's votes dropping off for one update.
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#324 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/31/2013 9:43:49 PM | message detail
It would essentially be a 1-on-1 match.

Zelda with less than 1%
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#325 | xp1337 | Posted 8/31/2013 9:44:42 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
...you know if Link somehow beats Draven, Zelda is literally the best possible third option Link could have in a final match against Snake.

CONSPIRACY

ZeldaFAQs is the most devious contest force in the game.

They took down Mario and are setting up Zelda to take the fall when it is necessary.

He

Always

Wins
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#326 | ZFS | Posted 8/31/2013 9:45:18 PM | message detail
Would be worth it just to see that low percentage. Lower than Shepard!
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#327 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/31/2013 9:45:34 PM | message detail
#328 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/31/2013 9:45:36 PM | message detail
You can't underestimate the psychological effect it might have on voters to see Link and Zelda in the same poll in the final though!
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#329 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/31/2013 9:45:47 PM | message detail
It would also give Snake more Stand Out Factor than he would have against anyone else, so it would be nothing like a 1v1 match. Still, I don't think there's any entrant out there that gives Snake a threatening shot against Link, so it wouldn't matter much in the grand scheme of things.
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#330 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2013 9:47:20 PM | message detail | (edited)
Zelda's simply not *that* good - her contest history year in and year out puts her at the lower threshold of the near-elites. Also this is her being sabotaged (insofar as Zelda can be). Also Charizard is being rallied.

If you want to call for Charizard not being a dud here, this amounts to proof positive of massive amounts of rSFF.
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#331 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/31/2013 9:46:38 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
It would also give Snake more Stand Out Factor than he would have against anyone else, so it would be nothing like a 1v1 match. Still, I don't think there's any entrant out there that gives Snake a threatening shot against Link, so it wouldn't matter much in the grand scheme of things.


Yeah, Snake probably crushes Link regardless of who's in the poll.
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#332 | z0mgthiefbeef | Posted 8/31/2013 9:47:28 PM | message detail
Going to bed soon, does Pokemon generally perform better in Europe or Zelda? Just wondering what to expect in the morning
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#333 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/31/2013 9:47:44 PM | message detail
Zelda was amazing last round though!
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#334 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/31/2013 9:49:01 PM | message detail
You guys call this pic Sabotage. What you didn't realize was that Toon Zelda plays directly into the hands of Windwaker HD hype.
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#335 | The Real Truth | Posted 8/31/2013 9:50:12 PM | message detail
Damn you big creature factor. The cute girl stands out way too much.
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#336 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/31/2013 9:50:25 PM | message detail
Ah yes, I wonder if the Wind Waker HD hype/bundle is having an effect here. I know it's been just about the only Wii U-related news that's gotten some people excited to buy the system.
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#337 | ZFS | Posted 8/31/2013 9:50:28 PM | message detail
Zelda doing pretty great now.
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#338 | ZFS | Posted 8/31/2013 9:51:40 PM | message detail
Don't think WW HD matters too much. Most of board 8 wasn't particularly swayed by either the bundle or the price drop. Hard to imagine the rest of GameFAQs is. WW HD looks great, though.
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#339 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2013 9:52:56 PM | message detail
Zelda whomping on John Marston and Sackboy isn't much, really. We have reams and reams of contest history on Zelda, and unless she's deviated immensely from past showings (like, to the tune of her 2006 match against Samus), this is rSFF or Charizard is a flop.
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#340 | Squirrelgate | Posted 8/31/2013 9:55:28 PM | message detail
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#341 | The Real Truth | Posted 8/31/2013 9:55:56 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Zelda whomping on John Marston and Sackboy isn't much, really. We have reams and reams of contest history on Zelda, and unless she's deviated immensely from past showings (like, to the tune of her 2006 match against Samus), this is rSFF or Charizard is a flop.


Well there's also a DK in the match who has 18% of the votes. Where do his votes go?
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#342 | ZFS | Posted 8/31/2013 9:56:40 PM | message detail
I would guess more to Zelda than Charizard, but likely both.
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#343 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2013 9:56:42 PM | message detail
The Real Truth posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Zelda whomping on John Marston and Sackboy isn't much, really. We have reams and reams of contest history on Zelda, and unless she's deviated immensely from past showings (like, to the tune of her 2006 match against Samus), this is rSFF or Charizard is a flop.


Well there's also a DK in the match who has 18% of the votes. Where do his votes go?


I'd be stunned if DK was hurting Charizard more than Zelda. This seems like it would be worse 1v1.
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#344 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/31/2013 9:59:40 PM | message detail | (edited)
DK's votes go to mostly Zelda. Pokemon has proven in the past that while it overlaps with Nintendo, it doesn't overlap nearly as badly as other Nintendo entities do. It's really hard for me to buy Animal LFF, would that seriously be a thing?

EDIT: By 'mostly' I mean something like 55-45, maybe 60-40, but yeah.
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#345 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2013 9:59:31 PM | message detail
I still kinda favor Charizard anyway, by the by. Zelda ain't got a good night vote at all and Charizard's gonna be rallied like crazy all match. That's likely to take its toll before we're done.
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#346 | Wanglicious | Posted 8/31/2013 10:01:09 PM | message detail
even if WW HD and LttP2 to a lesser extent are helping Zelda out, Charizard is going from a guy who 60-40'd L Block, almost got 55% on Bowser, and didn't let Mario get 54% on him, to... losing handily to Zelda. and it's not like the notable Pokemon has been weak all contest either. those 40,000 extra people we lost from 2010 is really showing its head here... the crowd left voting is making it look like Zelda really is rSFF'ing him to high hell.

right now, i wonder who's stronger: Mewtwo or Charizard.
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#347 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/31/2013 10:03:43 PM | message detail
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#348 | ZFS | Posted 8/31/2013 10:05:19 PM | message detail
Rallies are the real cause for concern here.
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#349 | The Real Truth | Posted 8/31/2013 10:05:25 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
DK's votes go to mostly Zelda. Pokemon has proven in the past that while it overlaps with Nintendo, it doesn't overlap nearly as badly as other Nintendo entities do. It's really hard for me to buy Animal LFF, would that seriously be a thing?

EDIT: By 'mostly' I mean something like 55-45, maybe 60-40, but yeah.


Well, more like the "stand out factor." Zelda is the one standing out here.
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#350 | GaryOak151 | Posted 8/31/2013 10:05:42 PM | message detail
This is gonna be a fun little match...
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