Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1139

#351 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/30/2013 10:39:15 PM | message detail
I'm also not sure Tidus Chokes should be satisfied as he was never even supposed to be in it (I meant to remove that one after seeing the bracket), but even then the top row is still satisfied entirely. A bingo is a bingo!
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#352 | WhiteLens | Posted 8/30/2013 10:43:55 PM | message detail
Jeez first Yuna now Jill, these girls getting their revenge on guys who beat them during the 4-ways.
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#353 | pjbasis | Posted 8/30/2013 10:47:34 PM | message detail
Man, sucks to see Red beasted so much.

How did he get from Ocelot level to this
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#354 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/30/2013 10:52:49 PM | message detail
Well, we stopped giving him Brawl pics, for one.
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#355 | vcharon | Posted 8/30/2013 11:02:19 PM | message detail
Pikachu used to be anti-voted to hell and back too.

Ah, fond memories.
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#356 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/30/2013 11:06:32 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Well, we stopped giving him Brawl pics, for one.


The picture he got was pretty much his SSBB pic. He'll do even better with sprites and Pokemon in his picture next round.
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#357 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/30/2013 11:09:21 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...

spooky96 posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
Snake > Link > Mega Man > Samus > Sonic > Cloud > Vivi > Mario > Pikachu > Crono > Sephiroth

Makes sense.


Included the new members for you.


no Squall, 0/10


Where are L-Block, Missigno and Vincent?

And by continuing your logic, Phoenix Wright, Mewtwo, Squall and everyone else that has ever beaten Pikachu or Vivi?
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#358 | PegasusLover123 | Posted 8/30/2013 11:10:19 PM | message detail
So is this Megaman % higher than normal, or is this expected?
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#359 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/30/2013 11:10:24 PM | message detail
Mega Man is on a freakin warpath. This percentage should be cut sharply overnight, but he's currently almost equaling Snake's beatdown on what we can only presume is notably tougher competition. He, Samus, and Snake are the only ones this round who have dominated in ways we used to expect of the Noble 9.
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#360 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/30/2013 11:11:13 PM | message detail
I don't think FireRed artwork is the same as the SSBB pics, even if it's the same design. The Brawl model has that weird plasticky design that just doesn't look good or evoke nostalgia, and it of makes people think of...well, Brawl. 2-D drawings are a lot better for keeping Red, Red.
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#361 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 8/30/2013 11:14:09 PM | message detail
Knew I should have upped MM in the Oracle. It's good to be the only Nintendo character in a poll...
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#362 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/30/2013 11:14:28 PM | message detail
The problem with Mega Man is that he's proven in the past that he can't hang with the super elites, even if he sometimes impresses more than them. He wouldn't beat Link, Mario, Samus, or Snake. He could beat the FF7 duo, Crono, or Sonic but that's not saying that much these days. The 'best' result he can hope for at the moment is just not getting ousted by Charizard.
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#363 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/30/2013 11:15:25 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
Man, sucks to see Red beasted so much.

How did he get from Ocelot level to this

"Ocelot level" in 2010 wasn't nearly as bad as people thought. We figured Ocelot was bad because he went from beating Jill to losing to her after MGS4, but whatever the hell happened there, Ocelot clearly got better afterward.

Red got 39% on MMX after that Ocelot match and MMX is strong. Ocelot did well against Auron this contest, too.

Red's also probably boosted since 2010, judging by everything else from pokemon. Getting rid of Brawl pics might have helped slightly.

Meanwhile, Wario and Wrex kind of suck. Wrex winning his match wasn't on his strength but his opponents' weakness. After Wrex's performance and Knuckles doing very poorly two rounds in a row, it's looking like Cecil was not strong after all and him getting close to Knuckles was just Knuckles sucking, which got hidden by two SFF matches in Sonic/Knuckles and Link/Sonic.
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#364 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/30/2013 11:20:12 PM | message detail
Lol, I was running some 2010 stats matchups in the calculator and decided to do this for kicks


Mario (2010c) VS Vivi (2010c)

Mario has a strength of 44.92.
Vivi has a strength of 28.12.

Mario wins with 68.70% of the vote!


Seriously what happened
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#365 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/30/2013 11:41:46 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
pjbasis posted...
Man, sucks to see Red beasted so much.

How did he get from Ocelot level to this

"Ocelot level" in 2010 wasn't nearly as bad as people thought. We figured Ocelot was bad because he went from beating Jill to losing to her after MGS4, but whatever the hell happened there, Ocelot clearly got better afterward.


This. Ocelot was a solid midcarder after Metal Gear Solid 4 who managed to keep losing debatable matches anyway. The problem is that his loss to Jill looked horrible back then because Jill had looked horrible her past few contests, but she did great in every match of hers afterwards (assuming you don't hold getting blown out by Noble Niners against her). Red has also looked like a beast since his match with Ocelot.

In getting 43% on Auron (5% better than what the 2010 x-stats predict and an even bigger improvement over what most expected), this is easily Ocelot's best contest. *salutes*
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#366 | Greyfeld | Posted 8/30/2013 11:41:53 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Lol, I was running some 2010 stats matchups in the calculator and decided to do this for kicks


Mario (2010c) VS Vivi (2010c)

Mario has a strength of 44.92.
Vivi has a strength of 28.12.

Mario wins with 68.70% of the vote!


Seriously what happened


My guess would be a combination of reduced votals (Mario, while nostalgic, gets stronger with a casual fanbase) and getting leeched by Ganondorf.

Speaking of looking at xstats, I've been looking at some of my own. In 2010, Vivi had a stronger score than Red. This year, Red doubles Cecil, who would have gone 47/53 against Vivi in 2010. With the strong showing of Pokemon this year and the relative decline of newer Square, Red pulling first in the next round while Squall and Vivi LFF each other to hell looks like a lock.
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#367 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/30/2013 11:47:30 PM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
Almost 78% on Kratos. Dayum.

If this was a 1v1 contest and his first round opponent was Kratos and he got almost 80%, I wonder what the reaction would be


OMG MEGA'S KILLING HIM
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#368 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/30/2013 11:59:35 PM | message detail
So


Save_Us.Megaman?
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#369 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/31/2013 12:16:02 AM | message detail
No. Mega Man has proven time and time again he's a fraud - he gets the huge blowouts but put him up against anyone worth... well, anything, and he collapses.
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#370 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/31/2013 12:18:04 AM | message detail
a guy can dream :(
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#371 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/31/2013 12:20:27 AM | message detail
Mega Man is like the ultimate Pac-Man
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#372 | ffmasterjose | Posted 8/31/2013 12:31:12 AM | message detail
Holy crap Mario losing messes everything in my bracket up

The only good news about all of this is Squall winning a whole damn Division.
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#373 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/31/2013 12:33:24 AM | message detail
OK what the hell is going on here with Mega Man,almost 60% on Kratos and Jill?
Against Kratos yeah I can understand..but Jill beasted her poll and I remember the comments here praising here

This performance makes me realize two things-
1.There is still a big gap between the NN and regular strong characters
Comparing Red "impressive" performance previous match against Wario and Wrex to this...it makes Red look pretty meh
And comparing this to Charizard/Riku/Nier...it makes it looks like Charizard doesn't really stand a chance without Zero in the match after all..
2.Make me question Mario/Vivi
It doesn't matter he was leeched by Ganondorf (I don't believe it was that severe) there is still a giant gap between him and Vivi
I don't see Vivi getting more than 50% here,and I don't see Mario losing to Mega Man in 1vs1 either
#374 | superange128 | Posted 8/31/2013 12:34:02 AM | message detail
Capcom LFF lolol
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#375 | SnoicFactor | Posted 8/31/2013 12:53:04 AM | message detail
I see Megaman is as overrated as ever in these contests.
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#376 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2013 1:04:49 AM | message detail
Excellent show from Mega Man. It looks like the SSB4 announcement really has done him some serious good. This is about 4% better than Samus was able to score on Jill last contest - no telling if Jill is constant, but that'd be a sexy upset special that might be well worth taking on UpsetFAQs. Well, if Zero would lose to Rikku, which now looks all but impossible. Doesn't look like it's anything outlandish like 'Capcom SFF' either, looking at Kratos.

Also, lol Kratos
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#377 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/31/2013 1:18:11 AM | message detail
Too bad Megaman is really dropping in percentage,but that's fine really

Also I predicted a Kratos fall,this is pretty much common sense
I mean..he got a new PS3 game 5 months ago...there was like zero hype for it or something?
I even thought Ascension was a Vita game too
#378 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2013 1:21:18 AM | message detail
That's just how Mega Man rolls. He beasts the first three hours and then free falls all day after that. This performance will be deceptive because of that - 12 hour night polls favor MM disproportionately - but it is still very, very good.
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#379 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 8/31/2013 1:24:05 AM | message detail
Mega Man can score 70% in this poll and i still wouldn't bat an eye.

When Snake does well, he really means it whereas MM is on the other end of the spectrum, when he does well, he really means to throw it.
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#380 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2013 1:30:30 AM | message detail
Hey, I'm one of MM's main detractors over the years, so believe me when I say he hasn't gone berserk like this in a long time. His Zack and Hayabusa performances look pretty meh in retrospect. But this is an unqualified excellent performance, and one that suggests a shot at Samus (and Mario, but the whole SFF thing makes that harder to justify).
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#381 | SnoicFactor | Posted 8/31/2013 1:32:01 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Hey, I'm one of MM's main detractors over the years, so believe me when I say he hasn't gone berserk like this in a long time. His Zack and Hayabusa performances look pretty meh in retrospect. But this is an unqualified excellent performance, and one that suggests a shot at Samus (and Mario, but the whole SFF thing makes that harder to justify).


This is berserk lol? Hes still dropping a lot in % as well. This is as expected, probably a bit better tbh. Nothing to wow over like people have been doing.
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#382 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2013 1:37:22 AM | message detail
If this is as expected, I look forward to your #1 Oracle score for today. And Mega Man drops a ton in percentage every single match. My evaluation is taking that into account - it still looks like he'd end up doing better than Samus did last contest on Jill.
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#383 | SnoicFactor | Posted 8/31/2013 1:40:54 AM | message detail
I expected around 55%. Why I said he Is doing a bit better. He is still dropping though.
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#384 | zhaoyun99 | Posted 8/31/2013 1:42:54 AM | message detail
I think this is as far as MM go. He's up against Zero next battle. You gotta admit that Zero was one hell of a much more popular character than both X and Megaman.
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#385 | SnoicFactor | Posted 8/31/2013 1:44:11 AM | message detail
Not in this contest, but it will be enough for charizard to win for sure.
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#386 | Yuri_LowelI | Posted 8/31/2013 2:13:51 AM | message detail
kratos is TERRIBLE. I'm a huge GOW fan. But the guy hasn't been relevant t since 2010. He would be crushing Jill about 4 years ago. Plus mm gets massive boost from Nintendo fanbase. More so. Ow that he's in the next smash.
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#387 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/31/2013 2:21:51 AM | message detail
Yuri_LowelI posted...
kratos is TERRIBLE. I'm a huge GOW fan. But the guy hasn't been relevant t since 2010. He would be crushing Jill about 4 years ago. Plus mm gets massive boost from Nintendo fanbase. More so. Ow that he's in the next smash.


Kratos losing to Jill, I could see. But not even being able to double someone who can't even possibly be all that strong?? That's what I have issues with.
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#388 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/31/2013 3:30:14 AM | message detail
I've been saying Mega Man would be looking great due to Smash Bros hype and because gamers are sympathizing with the blue bomber more now that he's gotten snubbed so badly by Capcom.

I think he's a good contender to win the contest. I suspect he'll crush Zero hard enough to still beat Charizard despite past results with Zero in the poll (assuming Cube doesn't get rallied like crazy). This isn't the same Mega Man who's been limping along the past few contests.

Also, why do people use past matches to determine whether characters should be in the Noble Nine? You got Mario > Cloud in 2002, but would anyone have actually picked that from 03-10? Would anyone actually still pick Crono > Snake? It sounds like a flimsy excuse someone put on the Wiki and figured that alone would be enough.
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#389 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/31/2013 3:31:27 AM | message detail
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2 people fell off the Top 49. EdBellis...did not have Red winning.


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#390 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/31/2013 3:35:14 AM | message detail
also Squall still beats Mega Man
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#391 | SnoicFactor | Posted 8/31/2013 3:35:21 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
I've been saying Mega Man would be looking great due to Smash Bros hype and because gamers are sympathizing with the blue bomber more now that he's gotten snubbed so badly by Capcom.

I think he's a good contender to win the contest. I suspect he'll crush Zero hard enough to still beat Charizard despite past results with Zero in the poll (assuming Cube doesn't get rallied like crazy). This isn't the same Mega Man who's been limping along the past few contests.

Also, why do people use past matches to determine whether characters should be in the Noble Nine? You got Mario > Cloud in 2002, but would anyone have actually picked that from 03-10? Would anyone actually still pick Crono > Snake? It sounds like a flimsy excuse someone put on the Wiki and figured that alone would be enough.


MM vs Charizard is already very debatable going by last contest in which Charizard was stronger. Adding Zero against MM is pretty much a sure loss. I admit anything is possible though... Maybe the Smash boost is insane.
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#392 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/31/2013 3:37:27 AM | message detail
Capcom killing Megaman is the reason I voted for him over Magikarp!
In terms of favorite franchise,Pokemon is my first and Mega Man second

He suffered enough in the last few years,letting him lose to a fish is too much
Sorry,Karp!
#393 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/31/2013 3:43:55 AM | message detail
Yuri_LowelI posted...
kratos is TERRIBLE. I'm a huge GOW fan. But the guy hasn't been relevant t since 2010. He would be crushing Jill about 4 years ago. Plus mm gets massive boost from Nintendo fanbase. More so. Ow that he's in the next smash.


Kratos DID crush Jill 5 years ago.

Jill Valentine went from being the master of losing by 27 votes to being the master of beating characters she lost to previously. First Ocelot in 2008, now Kratos here. She's done very well for herself last few contests after stinking the joint in 2003-2007 (never mind not even appearing in 2005), which is kinda ironic considering how her series has gone downhill since then and how her portrayal in Resident Evil 5 was not well-received (to be fair though, Jill DOES star in the most well-liked post-4 Resident Evil game). Maybe she's benefiting from PlayStation nostalgia in similar fashion to Crash Bandicoot and Spyro. Maybe Revelations boosted her. Who knows?

As for Kratos, the awful performances by him, Master Chief, Sackboy, Ratchet, and Drake all support the idea that mascot characters only do well when their games have current popularity. In this case:

-Kratos got two new games recently, but neither was particularly well-received. Before then his latest release was a PSP game in 2010. If you held a character battle in 2011 Kratos probably would have done really well. There's probably a reason why he's only a 6 seed this contest.

-After Halo 3, that series got usurped by Call of Duty within the genre. Master Chief has only starred in one game since then, and Halo 4 didn't have nearly the impact of its predecessor. Halo Wars, Halo 3: ODST, and Halo: Reach did not feature Master Chief. Makes sense that he'd weaken when his series puts less emphasis on him.

-Sackboy has gotten LittleBigPlanet 2, LittleBigPlanet Vita, LittleBigPlanet Karting, and PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale since last contest. None of those games was nearly as popular as the original LittleBigPlanet, and the series had largely faded from the public view since last character battle.

-Ratchet was coming off of A Crack in Time last time, and that game is considered by many to be among the best in the series if not the best outright. Since then Ratchet has only gotten All 4 One and Full Frontal Assault, which were not all that well-received.

-Since last contest, Drake has only gotten Uncharted 3, PSASBR, and a Vita game that wasn't as well-received as Drake's "main" games. His series is also fading from the public eye. If we waited another year, he might have lost to Pac-Man.
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#394 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/31/2013 3:46:05 AM | message detail
Chart for the day match:

Time | Wario | Red | Wrex | Votes
0:05 | 26.61% | 49.73% | 23.66% | 372
1:00 | 24.87% | 48.97% | 26.17% | 5763
2:00 | 19.90% | 52.33% | 27.77% | 3784
3:00 | 20.53% | 51.47% | 27.99% | 3122
4:00 | 20.84% | 50.55% | 28.61% | 2922
5:00 | 23.22% | 49.70% | 27.08% | 2855
6:00 | 20.14% | 49.98% | 29.88% | 2577
7:00 | 20.77% | 52.25% | 26.98% | 2268
8:00 | 19.72% | 54.87% | 25.41% | 2023
9:00 | 17.88% | 54.50% | 27.63% | 1857
10:00 | 20.35% | 53.92% | 25.73% | 1784
11:00 | 19.33% | 53.04% | 27.63% | 1578
12:00 | 18.47% | 55.00% | 26.53% | 1451

Wow, that's quite a late vote for Red. Pretty impressive.

X-Stats:

Pokemon Trainer Red – 50.00%
Urdnot Wrex – 34.61%
Cecil Harvey – 32.83%
Pit – 30.19%
Wario – 29.05%
Corvo Attano – 21.59%
Creeper – 21.32%
The King of All Cosmos – 17.58%
Sissel – 12.10%

Red's prediction percentage was 38.57%
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#395 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/31/2013 3:50:02 AM | message detail
Current X-Stats:

Mega Man – 50.00%
Magikarp – 36.65%
Jill Valentine – 29.62%
Kratos – 25.52%
Geno – 18.73%
Recette Lemongrass – 17.08%
Mike Haggar – 16.85%
Travis Touchdown – 16.68%
Red Bird – 13.03%
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#396 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/31/2013 3:52:46 AM | message detail | (edited)
Weird
Looking at the chart,it doesn't seem like Wrex got a rally..at all
It's like all of the "I don't know who to vote" in the /v/ rally actually went to Wario
And by "all" it looks like...150 votes,tops
#397 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/31/2013 4:23:32 AM | message detail
Not sure why people are trying to do down Mega Man's performance. Kratos is whatever - he sucked in round one and never seemed like someone who'd retain his strength. But 70% on Jill? That's straight up better than what Samus got in 2010! I don't buy Jill falling apart in the meantime - she's been consistently decent for the entire history of these contests.
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#398 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/31/2013 4:28:37 AM | message detail
And, to risk sounding like a broken record, she got a new game in between contests. Said game being available on pretty much every current-gen system (3DS, PC, 360, PS3, Wii U).

Part of me has a feeling that Mega Man might be SFFing both of them though. Remember that Kratos didn't exactly hold up well against Snake, so perhaps the same is happening to him here (plus we've already seen one character in a similar mold as Kratos SFFd by both Snake and Mega Man). And Jill might be suffering from Capcom SFF. So who knows.
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#399 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/31/2013 4:33:20 AM | message detail
Embarrassing confession: Watching an LP of Mega Man 9 makes me understand how Mega Man does so well even though his games do not: he's just that darn cool.
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#400 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/31/2013 5:07:23 AM | message detail
Watching Mega Man performance in the US compared to Europe (and actually,the rest of the world) is..funny thing
This is not just about UK...
Although most of those countries got like..less than 10 votes?

The votals are really low this match