Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1139

#151 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/30/2013 1:08:34 PM | message detail | (edited)
I could almost buy Vivi beating Squall, but I don't think he beats Red while being held down by Squall. He needs another rally or he's screwed.
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#152 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/30/2013 1:09:15 PM | message detail
no actually, Vivi took Mario's spot and Squall took Missingno's spot that the glitch took from Crono in 2010 :P

Actually Sephiroth took Missingno's spot since he lost it to Kirby in 2008.
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#153 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:09:44 PM | message detail
Vivi could beat Squall if he gets a bandwagon behind him, but the problem is that Squall won't fold to Vivi, and Vivi won't fold to Squall if he's getting bandwagoned.

So yeah, they doom each other unless people stop caring about Vivi beating Mario next round, which probably won't happen.
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#154 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/30/2013 1:10:31 PM | message detail
Red is going to maul that match and could potentially make the FINALS if Mega Man has what it takes to outlast zard. I can see Samus/Red/Mega Man tipping in the Trainer's favor.
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#155 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/30/2013 1:12:02 PM | message detail
Only way Mega Man beats Charizard is if Rikku beats Zero
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#156 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:12:15 PM | message detail
Don't see any way the Zard drops the match now unless Rikku scores the crazy upset.
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#157 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/30/2013 1:12:26 PM | message detail
Augh, if Tidus had won, we get

Squall/Tidus/Ammy
Vivi/Ammy/Red

Vivi could've done that. Missingno seriously messed up everything. He won when he shouldn't have and lost when he shouldn't have.
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#158 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/30/2013 1:12:47 PM | message detail
Unlike Pikachu and Blue,I believe Charizard can SFF Red to the ground..even beneath it!
Really,it will get the point that if Red finish with 10% I will consider it overperformance and wonder for hours who the hell would vote for Red over Charizard
#159 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:12:50 PM | message detail
Or Squall could've destroyed Tidus with SFF like he has in the past and wins anyway...!
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#160 | xp1337 | Posted 8/30/2013 1:14:05 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Or Squall could've destroyed Tidus with SFF like he has in the past and wins anyway...!

DogFAQs would obviously sense its opportunity and strike!
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#161 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/30/2013 1:14:20 PM | message detail
That's another good point. Now I regret Missingno beating Tidus!

The worst part is that if Missingno had won the last match, we could've had Tidus > Squall. At least we still have Tidus > Crono.
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#162 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/30/2013 1:14:37 PM | message detail
But Red would have had no Nintendo character holding him back. I think he's going to embarrass both Square guys next round. And yes, Mega Man's only good shot lies in Zero flubbing, but after what we've seen this past week, I don't find the possibility all that crazy.
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#163 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/30/2013 1:15:35 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
no actually, Vivi took Mario's spot and Squall took Missingno's spot that the glitch took from Crono in 2010 :P

Actually Sephiroth took Missingno's spot since he lost it to Kirby in 2008.


no Sephiroth took Vincent's spot, I was the one who started this stupid thing :P
#164 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/30/2013 1:17:19 PM | message detail
I seriously think Charizard got enough strength to compete with Mega Man 1vs1
Yeah I know it's crazy..but...we will see I guess
#165 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/30/2013 1:17:55 PM | message detail
Let's not overrate what Red is doing here. It's a great performance, but I'm pretty sure Vivi 'beat freaking Mario' Ornitier could do this to Wrex and Wario if he really wanted to.
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#166 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:18:11 PM | message detail
It's sort of a Catch-22 though. If Zero has fallen far enough that he could lose to Rikku (who is basically on the same level as Tidus and Yuna), that doesn't say good things about Mega Man as a franchise.
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#167 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/30/2013 1:18:20 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
But Red would have had no Nintendo character holding him back. I think he's going to embarrass both Square guys next round. And yes, Mega Man's only good shot lies in Zero flubbing, but after what we've seen this past week, I don't find the possibility all that crazy.


That's a good point. There may be a chance the Cube might get rallied over Zero and Rikku. Unlikely, but feasible.

The Cube might actually save Mega Man if it wins its match, hilariously enough.
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#168 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/30/2013 1:19:09 PM | message detail
If Charizard's result against Mario is legit (a notion that seems more and more plausible as time goes on), then he's likely as Mega Man normally. Zero doesn't even need to be there.
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#169 | Lopen | Posted 8/30/2013 1:19:21 PM | message detail
Man, I like how this contest is set to ruin the one good thing it had going for it and then some by having Red beat Squall + Vivi next round.

MissingNo I hate you
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#170 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:20:22 PM | message detail
Yeah, Charizard has a chance to beat Mega Man straight up.

It just becomes a guarantee if Zero's there, basically.
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#171 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:20:47 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Man, I like how this contest is set to ruin the one good thing it had going for it and then some by having Red beat Squall + Vivi next round.

MissingNo I hate you


Everyone rally around Squall so he can crush Vivi and slip past Red...!
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#172 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/30/2013 1:21:05 PM | message detail
no Sephiroth took Vincent's spot, I was the one who started this stupid thing :P

I forgot Crono took L-Block's spot and not Vincent's
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#173 | Lopen | Posted 8/30/2013 1:21:41 PM | message detail
Squall beating Red would be good damage control but Vivi is supposed to be the miracle story dammit
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#174 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:22:29 PM | message detail
Vivi already had his miracle story. Beating Mario is a miracle in and of itself.

Squall getting to the finals would cement his place as the new strongest FF character. It's about validation...!
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#175 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/30/2013 1:23:25 PM | message detail
L Block/Vivi/Charizard
Samus/Vivi/Charizard

Vivi can do it!
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#176 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/30/2013 1:24:29 PM | message detail
I'm gonna burst Leon's bubble a tad and say that I don't think Squall's performances have been too great this year. I don't think he's dropped a ton or anything, but so far he's

-Got 71% on Rayman, when Rayman looked ABYSMAL the other times he was in
-Got 52% on a Missingno that was one stuffer away from losing to Tidus
-Got 61% on an Ammy that was a completely irrelevant option in the poll

The third option specifically is sort of worrying - that's what Luigi did despite reasons for Ammy to underperform, and Squall has every reason to be a good bit stronger than Luigi based on previous result. He still looks strong, but not quite as strong as the past. Doesn't help that these all took place in night matches, which favor him heavily.
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#177 | Averia | Posted 8/30/2013 1:24:48 PM | message detail
If everyone rally for Vivi and let Squall dies and that Vivi has another rally , it might happen but I doubt it will happen. Red won't be an easy opponent either.
#178 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:25:47 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
-Got 61% on an Ammy that was a completely irrelevant option in the poll


Sorry, you don't get to argue Ammy got LPF'd when she got 25% of the vote.

Also Ammy's probably stronger now than she was in 2010 due to MvC3.
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#179 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:26:28 PM | message detail
Rayman also has had tons of reasons to be better than he was last time. He didn't even have Origins the only other time he was in the contest.
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#180 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/30/2013 1:29:12 PM | message detail
Vivi/Squall/Red is like Lightning/DK/Falco

Hopefully.
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#181 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/30/2013 1:29:51 PM | message detail
Just because a character doesn't completely die doesn't mean they don't underperform. Close rally matches almost always make other options suffer, at least a little bit. And Rayman does have reasons to improve, but yeah. I'm not saying that Squall looks a lot weaker, just not quite as impressive as he's been in the past. Even just based on their Round 1 matches, he looks pretty close to Vivi (which isn't bad because Vivi is clearly on roids this year).
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#182 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:30:45 PM | message detail
There wasn't even that much rallying. Missingno started strong. Then Squall just caught up, stormed past him, and never looked back. There was no back and forth, no stalling, no nothing.

Ammy's fine.
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#183 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 8/30/2013 1:31:45 PM | message detail
Not that impressed by Squall's performance to be honest, i think he has a good chance of being in last place in the next round, especially if 4chan decides to give Vivi yet another push.
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#184 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:32:15 PM | message detail
Fine, you guys can keep doubting Squall if you want.

Doesn't bother me!
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#185 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/30/2013 1:33:00 PM | message detail
I haven't been here but I want to say to all the Mario > Sephiroth nerds...

Bwahahahahahaha
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#186 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/30/2013 1:33:21 PM | message detail
I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying - I'm talking about Squall being a little weaker. That's it! That would honestly be what I would've expected given how the rest of the contest has went - Squall is an unholy fusion of FF7-era Square and Kingdom Hearts, and both of them get weaker as time goes on. I'm surprised he isn't worse off, really
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#187 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:33:37 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
I haven't been here but I want to say to all the Mario > Sephiroth nerds...

Bwahahahahahaha


Make sure you show back up when Sephy gets last place in a few days, bro...!
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#188 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/30/2013 1:33:46 PM | message detail
It's even funnier once you realize that even yesterday's Mario could beat Sephiroth!
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#189 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/30/2013 1:34:58 PM | message detail
Big Boss > Sephiroth
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#190 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/30/2013 1:42:40 PM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
Big Boss > Sephiroth


I believe /v/ likes Metal Gear?
Big Boss rally is possible
#191 | Acerac | Posted 8/30/2013 1:45:21 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
Missing no losing has probably been the best result of this contest so far. These joke characters got old.

Seriously Draven winning would be better than one of these jokes winning. At least when Draven wins he won by sheer power and brute voting strength. missingno and failblock get minor rallies from joke sites like 4chan. When block won in 07 it was mostly gamefaqs having a laugh. Now it's just irritating. Great to see real characters like Squall put these pathetic vermins down though. Shame he's not in lbocks division. He would break that half a T block in 2 as well.


Salt like yours is what makes these contests magical.

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#192 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/30/2013 1:48:56 PM | message detail
Switch Ganondorf and Wario's position in the bracket.
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#193 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2013 1:49:46 PM | message detail
We just get the same result a round later, with Squall beating Mario and Ganon instead of Vivi.

Which is cool with me!
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#194 | HaRRicH | Posted 8/30/2013 2:04:21 PM | message detail
Quick list of how MvsC3-characters have don, minus the Street Fighters:

--> Phoenix Wright beat Marth and Vincent (haw haw)
--> Frank West was quadrupled by Garrus
--> Morrigan beat Miles and Spyro
--> Viewtiful Joe edged out Handsome Jack
--> Dante lost hard to Squirtle, but beat Zidane and doubled Laharl
--> Wesker beat Oliver despite Leon
--> Leon beat Gordon with space to spare
--> Amaterasu easily tripled Vyse before she got 39% on Squall
--> Mike Haggar beat Red Bird

Not a bad run for the game. Ammy looking better than before isn't a shocker.
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#195 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/30/2013 2:05:29 PM | message detail
I agree that it would make sense for Squall to be weaker and that's honestly what I would have expected, but I don't think that's really what his poll results indicate. How Rayman did back in the Rabbid era is completely irrelevant to how strong he is now and Squall looked fine against an Amaterasu who might even have boosted a little from MvC3. Meanwhile, Missingno. is weird and probably not transitive; it made Crono, Yoshi, and Sephiroth look stupidly close together in 2010 too. And if you think Missingno.'s strength has a lot to do with Pokemon rather than JUST being a joke, he would have been vulnerable to Banjo LFF.

And while there was definitely spillover effect from the previous match, I don't think there was all that much rallying; or at least, not any from a single, easily identifiable place. None of Missingno.'s reddit threads really took off, though I made sure to downvote them; Luster made several! /v/ rallies didn't seem to do much better.
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#196 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/30/2013 2:13:03 PM | message detail
Guys guys it's time for the most important question of the day forget about the Pokecontest for a sec

SOLID SNAKE VERSUS MARIO

predict the percentages imho
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#197 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 8/30/2013 2:14:27 PM | message detail
HaRRicH posted...
Quick list of how MvsC3-characters have don, minus the Street Fighters:

--> Leon beat Gordon with space to spare


Leon? He wasn't in that game though.
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#198 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/30/2013 2:15:33 PM | message detail
Zero is in MvsC3 too no?
Anyway,im glad we finally have a normal match at last (although the start was kinda scary)
And hopefully next match is going to be a normal match too...but who knows,maybe Jill can surprise
#199 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/30/2013 2:18:36 PM | message detail
Snake wins 57/43 over Mario, flipping the 2005 results. I realize this may be undershooting Snake but I'll be conservative for now.
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#200 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/30/2013 2:19:54 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Guys guys it's time for the most important question of the day forget about the Pokecontest for a sec

SOLID SNAKE VERSUS MARIO

predict the percentages imho


Snake-25% Mario-20% the joke option-55%