Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1138

#151 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:08:04 PM | message detail
On a different note, absolutely monstrous cut by Squall. 33 votes in one update, what a beast.
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#152 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2013 10:08:35 PM | message detail
Or even more likely, Squall would have Lionheart'd him out of the contest and gone on to the finals. "whoops"
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#153 | The Real Truth | Posted 8/29/2013 10:09:21 PM | message detail
Squall says **** you Missingno
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#154 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/29/2013 10:09:44 PM | message detail
Damn. The Vivi dream is probably dead.

Oh well, I'll take the Red consolation prize.
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#155 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:10:28 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Or even more likely, Squall would have Lionheart'd him out of the contest and gone on to the finals. "whoops"


Quick, what happens if Samus beats L-Block, Charizard or Megaman come out of Division 9, and by some unholy miracle Squall wins Division 8?

...Man I don't even wanna think about it, I'd just be disappointing myself because the real world isn't awesome enough to handle that.
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#156 | Lopen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:10:52 PM | message detail
Honestly I don't think Red can beat Squall 1v1 even with Vivi in the poll. Too big a gap there.
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#157 | JJH777 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:11:44 PM | message detail | (edited)
This match makes me want to see Luigi vs Squall. Based on Ammy it would be extremely close! There's no reason to think Ammy has increased since then and there is a lot of reason to think Luigi has boosted. Luigi could be one of the strongest characters on this site. Of course Mario just lost to Vivi so who knows.
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#158 | Janus5000 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:11:19 PM | message detail
So all this fanbase splitting and stuff makes me wonder: does Wrex have a chance tomorrow?
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#159 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:11:25 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Damn. The Vivi dream is probably dead.

Oh well, I'll take the Red consolation prize.


http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/082/9/8/urdnot_wrex_by_gelvuun-d4tnn27.jpg

This guy might have something to say about that.
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#160 | CP724 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:11:38 PM | message detail
I dont think red is a lock if squall wins this, he isnt that strong and vivi could potentially take it again with another rally.
#161 | jacko_vdz | Posted 8/29/2013 10:12:25 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
jacko_vdz posted...
I'm happy to see Squall take this if it means Red wins the division!


Watch Squall win while Wrex abuses the Wario/Red split to bull through. I wouldn't be surprised!


Outside of games contests, have we ever seen Pokemon on the wrong end of LFF before? This might be the first time.
#162 | pjbasis | Posted 8/29/2013 10:13:04 PM | message detail
luster says he posted a rally for missingno, let's all shun him!
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#163 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:13:26 PM | message detail
CP724 posted...
I dont think red is a lock if squall wins this, he isnt that strong and vivi could potentially take it again with another rally.


'Squall isn't that strong'

If Squall beats a past Noble Nine Breaker fueled by rallies, damn right he's an unholy beast and is getting out of the division alive. You're underestimating how crazy a feat that'll be if it happens.
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#164 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:13:59 PM | message detail
jacko_vdz posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
jacko_vdz posted...
I'm happy to see Squall take this if it means Red wins the division!


Watch Squall win while Wrex abuses the Wario/Red split to bull through. I wouldn't be surprised!


Outside of games contests, have we ever seen Pokemon on the wrong end of LFF before? This might be the first time.


We might've seen it in 4ways, but don't quote me on it.
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#165 | The Real Truth | Posted 8/29/2013 10:14:38 PM | message detail | (edited)
CP724 posted...
I dont think red is a lock if squall wins this, he isnt that strong and vivi could potentially take it again with another rally.


Red would be a lock.
Vivi is just going to syphon votes from Squall.
Basically, this match will determine if Vivi of Red move on next round.
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#166 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/29/2013 10:14:28 PM | message detail
First Crono, now Mario.

Link's next.

And then all that is left is Draven, Snake, Square and POKEMON.

Time's have changed.
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#167 | jacko_vdz | Posted 8/29/2013 10:15:17 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Honestly I don't think Red can beat Squall 1v1 even with Vivi in the poll. Too big a gap there.


Ask yourself, would you take Mewtwo in that spot?

Because Red did better on Sissel than Mewtwo did on Zero in R1.

It's freeform so Red's going to get at least one sprite pic.

Zidane isn't just going to roll over and die either.
#168 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/29/2013 10:15:55 PM | message detail | (edited)
So:
-Vincent weakened almost beyond belief and/or got screwed by Vincent Vega.
-Mario loses to an Old/(or at least oldish!) Square guy out of nowhere and not even his clutch saves him.
-Directly after the previous match, Squall is cutting Missingno. up good, though it's too early to call the match, after Missingno. nearly lost last round.
-Pikachu may have won because of LFF but is probably itself doomed by Pokemon LFF next round.

Crono might have been eliminated, but holy crap, all his biggest enemies are feeling the burn! I'm blaming all these strange events on Crono now.
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#169 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/29/2013 10:15:21 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Honestly I don't think Red can beat Squall 1v1 even with Vivi in the poll. Too big a gap there.


Normally I might say that it's a tossup, but I think a good number of extra people are going to side with Vivi next round. Not enough for him to get anything but third, but most of the support is probably coming from Squall.
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#170 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/29/2013 10:17:52 PM | message detail
Then again, Vivi just beat Mario, so maybe he's stronger than Squall and gets 1st. Would that really surprise anyone too much at this point?
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#171 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2013 10:18:10 PM | message detail
Yeah, Squall is just a completely different animal from Tidus. Even against a Missingno who's almost assuredly much stronger and with a less favorable third wheel in Ammy, he's just tearing into this lead.
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#172 | Janus5000 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:18:25 PM | message detail
I'm loving this comeback

jokes and rallies are dominating every other match and Squall doesn't give a s***
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#173 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:19:36 PM | message detail
ding dong the glitch is dead
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#174 | JJH777 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:20:04 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Yeah, Squall is just a completely different animal from Tidus. Even against a Missingno who's almost assuredly much stronger and with a less favorable third wheel in Ammy, he's just tearing into this lead.


Would Ammy really have more overlap with Squall than MissingNo? I don't think she has significant overlap with either and if I was forced to choose it'd be MissingNo simply due to pretty much everyone calling Okami a zelda clone.
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#175 | LOLContests | Posted 8/29/2013 10:20:34 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Honestly I don't think Red can beat Squall 1v1 even with Vivi in the poll. Too big a gap there.


More than the gap between Mario and Vivi?
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#176 | CP724 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:20:39 PM | message detail
'Squall isn't that strong'

I was talking about red
#177 | creativename | Posted 8/29/2013 10:20:49 PM | message detail
I wonder if a Final Fantasy character can get bandwagon'd. I mean that's never happened before right?

But if Pokemon/joke type bandwagon power extends to Vivi, he could well beat Squall (assuming Squall wins this match).

Despite the FF LFF I don't think Red is strong enough to take advantage even if Vivi and Squall are both there. I mean FF8 and FF9 should have significant LFF, but not crushing LFF.

(then again, I wouldn't have thought Ganon could possibly LFF Mario for him to lose to *Vivi* either)
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#178 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2013 10:21:08 PM | message detail
JJH777 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Yeah, Squall is just a completely different animal from Tidus. Even against a Missingno who's almost assuredly much stronger and with a less favorable third wheel in Ammy, he's just tearing into this lead.


Would Ammy really have more overlap with Squall than MissingNo? I don't think she has significant overlap with either and if I was forced to choose it'd be MissingNo simply due to pretty much everyone calling Okami a zelda clone.


Not about overlap, it's about 'Non-Joke LFF', essentially. Ammy is siphoning a lot more votes than Banjo ever did so it's an unfavorable circumstance against Missingno's more resilient joke bloc.
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#179 | raytan7585 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:21:15 PM | message detail
I detected a Missingno rally in reddit.
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#180 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:22:13 PM | message detail
If Mizno hadn't evolved between rounds he'd be getting 60-40'd.

Good show by Ammy. Looks like MvC3 had an impact. I'll keep that in mind when the games contest comes around. I think her fanbase is pretty independent of the bigger two here - Capcom vs. Nintendo vs. Square, and she didn't look like suffering SFF against Luigi in 2010.
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#181 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:23:19 PM | message detail
CP724 posted...
'Squall isn't that strong'

I was talking about red


Misread, my bad.
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#182 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/29/2013 10:23:28 PM | message detail
Ahahaha, Luster is one of the reddit ralliers for Missingno.
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#183 | CP724 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:23:33 PM | message detail
Then again, Vivi just beat Mario, so maybe he's stronger than Squall and gets 1st. Would that really surprise anyone too much at this point?

no it wouldnt, and thats probably whats going to happen if he gets some bandwagon/rally thing going.
#184 | pjbasis | Posted 8/29/2013 10:23:34 PM | message detail
raytan7585 posted...
I detected a Missingno rally in reddit.


Is it gonna be a problem, or do we have to remove it
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#185 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:24:26 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Yeah, Squall is just a completely different animal from Tidus. Even against a Missingno who's almost assuredly much stronger and with a less favorable third wheel in Ammy, he's just tearing into this lead.


Janus5000 posted...
I'm loving this comeback

jokes and rallies are dominating every other match and Squall doesn't give a s***


This just warms my heart. I'm not getting optimistic yet because I know better than to assume a rally is done for until it is really, well and truly done for, but it's good to see other people feel good about Squall's chances too.
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#186 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2013 10:24:35 PM | message detail
Ammy cracked a full 40.5% on Luigi last contest, when she was noticeably weaker. Squall should still be pretty favored against Luigi it looks like, though nothing crazy.
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#187 | Lopen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:28:41 PM | message detail
Gap between Mario and Vivi vs gap between Squall and Red

Yeah that's probably close actually.
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#188 | Qwaar | Posted 8/29/2013 10:30:43 PM | message detail
Seems inevitable that Squall takes the lead.
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#189 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:32:00 PM | message detail
Qwaar posted...
Seems inevitable that Squall takes the lead.


Don't count the chickens before they hatch. Missingno is getting rallied, and this means he'll spike like a mother****er when actually in danger.
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#190 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2013 10:33:12 PM | message detail
Wow, M. What a time to show your jokeiest trends in spades.
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#191 | tgs2 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:33:30 PM | message detail
111 votes in 30 minutes. That spike needs to happen soon
#192 | jacko_vdz | Posted 8/29/2013 10:33:55 PM | message detail
Are you guys seriously thinking that the protagonist of Pokemon RBY is going to lose a match to two FF characters after seeing Mewtwo, Squirtle and Pikachu all overperform in round 2? After Red put up 70% in round 1?

Go by the stats all you want, but there's no way I can see Red losing that battle.
#193 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:35:42 PM | message detail
jacko_vdz posted...
Are you guys seriously thinking that the protagonist of Pokemon RBY is going to lose a match to two FF characters after seeing Mewtwo, Squirtle and Pikachu all overperform in round 2? After Red put up 70% in round 1?

Go by the stats all you want, but there's no way I can see Red losing that battle.


Yeah. We don't know how legit those numbers were. Mario put up real numbers against Duke and whatever fodder was with him, and he still lost to Vivi just now. Round 1 numbers mean absolutely nothing at this point.
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#194 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:37:06 PM | message detail
jacko_vdz posted...
Are you guys seriously thinking that the protagonist of Pokemon RBY is going to lose a match to two FF characters after seeing Mewtwo, Squirtle and Pikachu all overperform in round 2? After Red put up 70% in round 1?

Go by the stats all you want, but there's no way I can see Red losing that battle.


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#195 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/29/2013 10:37:27 PM | message detail
I'm not betting against Pokemon

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#196 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:38:05 PM | message detail
An hour ago, Missingno's lead peaked. In an hour's timespan, Squall has managed to get halfway back to even.
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#197 | pjbasis | Posted 8/29/2013 10:40:58 PM | message detail
You guys want stats? Chew on these babies!


L-Block - 4.88¢
Auron - 4.41¢
Ocelot - 3.18¢
Ezio - 2.62¢
Palutena - 2.26¢
Roxas - 2.08¢
Tails - 1.80¢
Bomberman - 1.34¢
Teemo - 1.00¢

Tifa - 5.41¢
Dragonborn - 3.69¢
Yuna - 3.04¢
Chief - 2.62¢
Tom Nook - 2.60¢
Pyramid Head - 2.43¢
Chun-Li - 2.34¢
Claire - 1.85¢
Cirno - 1.00¢

Vivi - 9.10¢
Mario - 9.06¢
Ganondorf - 3.89¢
Adam - 3.49¢
Duke - 2.62¢
Marisa - 2.04¢
Fawful - 1.36¢
Guybrush - 1.08¢
Max - 1.00¢
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#198 | Sonic_Druid | Posted 8/29/2013 10:42:06 PM | message detail | (edited)
You know, I may be overthinking this but I think I discovered M's weakness: FF characters. It lost to Sephiroth, it barely beat Tidus, and if things keep up like this, Squall could possibly beat it as well.

I know that's only 3 characters, but you know what? Just based on it's performance on those 3 characters from the same universe, I think M.'s weakness may have been exposed.
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#199 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/29/2013 10:42:02 PM | message detail
jacko_vdz posted...
Are you guys seriously thinking that the protagonist of Pokemon RBY is going to lose a match to two FF characters after seeing Mewtwo, Squirtle and Pikachu all overperform in round 2? After Red put up 70% in round 1?

Go by the stats all you want, but there's no way I can see Red losing that battle.


Are you implying that 70% against those weaklings Red trashed in round 1 is to be taken seriously?
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#200 | JJH777 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:42:18 PM | message detail
Sonic_Druid posted...
You know, I may be overthinking this but I think I discovered M's weakness: FF characters. It lost to Sephiroth, it barely beat Tidus, and if things keep up like this, Squall could possibly beat it as well.

I know that's only 3 characters, but you know what? Just based on those 3 characters from the same universe, I think M.'s weakness may have been exposed.


Those are all the characters it has faced besides Yoshi who it also went even with. This thing just doesn't win or lose decisively.
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