Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1135

#251 | Kinglicious | Posted 8/29/2013 10:06:55 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
*clicks on poll*

...you guys think Snake has no chance against THIS GUY


Right now I think snake has no chance against kefka.
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#252 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/29/2013 10:07:07 AM | message detail
Outside forces have realized that they can now affect our contest results with regularity where before it was futile. They've also probably realized that there is a small enclave (us) that will yell about it almost every time, and the added dimension of trolling us undoubtedly armors their efforts. GameSpot here we come!
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#253 | superange128 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:07:20 AM | message detail
Damn Vivi's just killing Europe
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#254 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/29/2013 10:07:38 AM | message detail
This contest truly is the greatest contest.
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#255 | Bospsychopaat | Posted 8/29/2013 10:08:04 AM | message detail
*Comes home, votes for Vivi in the event he's close to Ganon*


"Whoops"

At least I don't have to feel bad about my bracket anymore, everyone's is going to suck at this rate!
#256 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:08:24 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3285

Ryu Hayabusa 13.95% 18682
Zero 21.4% 28658
Solid Snake 43.55% 58327
Vivi Ornitier 21.1% 28251
TOTAL VOTES 133918
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#257 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2013 10:08:58 AM | message detail
If Mario legitimately deboosted from a 2DS announcement I will die laughing. <_<

This is also the same principle as yesterday - yes, if Mario loses rallying will have been the thing that tips the scale. But he should have never allowed himself to be put in this position to begin with.
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#258 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:09:05 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Outside forces have realized that they can now affect our contest results with regularity where before it was futile. They've also probably realized that there is a small enclave (us) that will yell about it almost every time, and the added dimension of trolling us undoubtedly armors their efforts. GameSpot here we come!


And this is what the biggest problem with Draven if anyone didn't understand it yet
#259 | xp1337 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:09:07 AM | message detail
guys obviously this is just the old square boost

ff9 confirmed for old square
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#260 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:09:25 AM | message detail
Kefka>Snake?Yes please!
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#261 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/29/2013 10:10:10 AM | message detail
This is literally the first time a rally on GameFAQs has ever been used as a force for good! That implies a much brighter future than it was yesterday!
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#262 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:10:35 AM | message detail
Vivi please do it!!!Take down a N9!
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#263 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 8/29/2013 10:10:50 AM | message detail
If this is the kind of result 4chan rallies gives us, then I, for one, welcome our new 4chan overlords
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#264 | 4thDeus | Posted 8/29/2013 10:11:21 AM | message detail
Things have changed around here.
#265 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/29/2013 10:12:28 AM | message detail
#266 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/29/2013 10:12:51 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
This contest truly is the greatest contest.


If nothing else, it adds an incredible new element of prediction skill to future contests (especially if they're multiway). You now have to evaluate every prior match and attempt to determine whether the general feel/tenor of the contest would result in a rally or zaniness in the match you're currently trying to predict. And then you have to do that for the next match while taking the same care and consideration for the previous match you just predicted. And again and again and again. It's mind-numbingly difficult but I don't think it's impossible. At the same time, I'm not sure how fun it'll be.
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#267 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/29/2013 10:13:06 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
If Mario legitimately deboosted from a 2DS announcement I will die laughing. <_<

This is also the same principle as yesterday - yes, if Mario loses rallying will have been the thing that tips the scale. But he should have never allowed himself to be put in this position to begin with.


Yeah, it's Mario's fault that Ganondorf is there to leech him hard.

Though it's weird that Mario can't crush Ganondorf that hard. The Dorf has always been utterly crushed by LFF/SFF. Luigi beat him handily in 07 (though that was Pig Dorf), and of course there's Link crushing the Dorf harder than CATS.

Also, I find it hilarious that now most of you are suddenly in favor of rallies now that it's for a character you like!
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#268 | redrocket | Posted 8/29/2013 10:14:04 AM | message detail
Nintendo has deboosted like crazy due to Nintendo sucking a big fat one lately. Snake would have bent Link over his knee in the finals if rallying hadn't happened this contest.
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#269 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:14:25 AM | message detail
Who's against rallies? We're just against 50,000 vote rallies that make Gamefaqs's votes irrelevant.
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#270 | spooky96 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:14:51 AM | message detail
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#271 | xp1337 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:15:02 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Also, I find it hilarious that now most of you are suddenly in favor of rallies now that it's for a character you like!

Oh, I'm still not in support of them! This is just another nail in the coffin!

But if we somehow get Mario/Crono out of this it would legitimately be the greatest thing a rally has ever done.
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#272 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:15:55 AM | message detail
You do realize this is likely a 4000+ vote rally if it takes off, right? As in, enough to turn any match around except the greatest of slaughters? They aren't different, really. You take the whole package or you leave it! No exceptions!
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#273 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/29/2013 10:16:57 AM | message detail
Another Vivi rally spotted on /v/ again.
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#274 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2013 10:17:08 AM | message detail
Oh, man, just realized Vivi might kill my bracket before Draven even has the f***ing chance.

...I guess that's preferable.
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#275 | swordz9 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:17:44 AM | message detail
I disliked what 4chan did yesterday with garbage block, but we're on ok terms again if they give Vivi the win here.
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#276 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/29/2013 10:18:29 AM | message detail | (edited)
These rallies are only really effective because of how bad the votals are these days.

Mudkip probably would have beat Luigi and the Dorf in 07 if the votals were this bad.
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#277 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:18:22 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
If Mario legitimately deboosted from a 2DS announcement I will die laughing. <_<

This is also the same principle as yesterday - yes, if Mario loses rallying will have been the thing that tips the scale. But he should have never allowed himself to be put in this position to begin with.


Kinda like in the stock market that if the company does something stupid the stock falls hard?
Yeah I can get behind this (also MC bombing so hard)
#278 | JJH777 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:18:24 AM | message detail
Wow what a glorious result. Anyone have a link to the rally?
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#279 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 8/29/2013 10:18:28 AM | message detail
Yeah, if this match ends with Vivi at 60%, it'd be stupid. But this is a relatively close match being influenced by rallies. You know, just like every close match ever.
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#280 | redrocket | Posted 8/29/2013 10:19:11 AM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
These rallies are only really effective because of how bad the votals are these days.

Mudkip probably would have beat Luigi and the Dorf in 07 if the votals were this bad.


Not to mention Bidoof over Vincent!
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#281 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:19:31 AM | message detail
You do realize this is likely a 4000+ vote rally if it takes off, right? As in, enough to turn any match around except the greatest of slaughters? They aren't different, really. You take the whole package or you leave it! No exceptions!

So, of comparable size to Starcraft, Mario/Crono, yesterday, and Crono/Missingno. Remember that the vote swing is much less than the total number of extra votes, because a lot of them are going to the other character. Our contests can live and thrive with rallies of this size. I just wish Crono weren't so frequently victimized by them.
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#282 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/29/2013 10:19:55 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...

Yeah, it's Mario's fault that Ganondorf is there to leech him hard.


If you add 100% of Ganondorf's votes to Mario, then it still amount to him significantly underperforming against Vivi. it's just bad no matter what.
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#283 | JJH777 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:20:35 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
If Mario legitimately deboosted from a 2DS announcement I will die laughing. <_<

This is also the same principle as yesterday - yes, if Mario loses rallying will have been the thing that tips the scale. But he should have never allowed himself to be put in this position to begin with.


Yeah, it's Mario's fault that Ganondorf is there to leech him hard.

Though it's weird that Mario can't crush Ganondorf that hard. The Dorf has always been utterly crushed by LFF/SFF. Luigi beat him handily in 07 (though that was Pig Dorf), and of course there's Link crushing the Dorf harder than CATS.

Also, I find it hilarious that now most of you are suddenly in favor of rallies now that it's for a character you like!


Never against rallies I'm against the incredibly obvious stuffing that Draven does.
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#284 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:21:38 AM | message detail
If you add 100% of Ganondorf's votes to Mario, then it still amount to him significantly underperforming against Vivi. it's just bad no matter what.

It's like Vivi is getting rallied or something
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#285 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 8/29/2013 10:21:52 AM | message detail
Also, I love how Kanz was going on and on about how you couldn't rally against freaking Mario. Yeah, about that...
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#286 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/29/2013 10:21:54 AM | message detail
I'm not a fan of rallies, and I'd much rather this be legitimate, but it's f***ing Vivi beating f***ing Mario for an hour. Sometimes you just take what you can get.
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#287 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:22:09 AM | message detail
So, of comparable size to Starcraft, Mario/Crono, yesterday, and Crono/Missingno. Remember that the vote swing is much less than the total number of extra votes, because a lot of them are going to the other character. Our contests can live and thrive with rallies of this size. I just wish Crono weren't so frequently victimized by them.


OK, so long as you're cool with game-breaking rallies, then that's OK. Now all I have left is to cheer for my man. GO MARIO GO
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#288 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/29/2013 10:22:53 AM | message detail
Take out the rallying and the LFF, and Mario is still underperforming!
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#289 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/29/2013 10:23:02 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
If you add 100% of Ganondorf's votes to Mario, then it still amount to him significantly underperforming against Vivi. it's just bad no matter what.

It's like Vivi is getting rallied or something


Not very much. Mario is just really sucking here. If anything the rally is disguising his weakness. He's probably down with Sonic and Crono on bottom tier NN at this point.
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#290 | xp1337 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:24:13 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Take out the rallying and the LFF, and Mario is still underperforming!

Where do you think this is without that?

I'm genuinely curious, because I have no clue!
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#291 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:24:24 AM | message detail
There are only 2 Noble Niners who do not look worse than they did in previous years: Solid Snake and Samus Aran.
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#292 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/29/2013 10:24:24 AM | message detail
Also, hahaha, Kanz got outrallied. Some rallier you are!
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#293 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/29/2013 10:25:15 AM | message detail
Also, hahaha, Kanz got outrallied. Some rallier you are!


Just getting started! We'll see what happens, I'm not caling it quits yet.
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#294 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/29/2013 10:25:22 AM | message detail
lol

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#295 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/29/2013 10:25:44 AM | message detail
Like, I actually have a lot of trouble thinking that Vivi is getting a ton of rally votes that Mario isn't. Vivi is an FF character, and Mario is Nintendo - and Mario. The rallying favors Vivi, probably, but Mario is probably getting a good chunk of them too.
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#296 | JustForFun1988 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:30:13 AM | message detail | (edited)
Haha, the FF fans on this board are certainly enjoying the demise of Mario, I am no FF fan but somehow I can feel their merriment.
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#297 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:26:12 AM | message detail
Take out the rallying and the LFF, and Mario is still underperforming!

We don't know how much is rallying, for all we know Vivi could be struggling to break 30% here...
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#298 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/29/2013 10:26:50 AM | message detail
Yes, we cannot rest just yet. This is Mario, the king of close matches himself. We really want to run up this lead to 1000, preferably 2000, to protect against the Mario rallying that may come.
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#299 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2013 10:26:58 AM | message detail
People are really overestimating how much the rallies and leeching is hurting Mario here, and this is coming from someone who dislikes both elements. This is Vivi. Middle of the road midcarder at best based on contest history. Against - all together, now - freaking MARIO. He should be able to handle people of twice this strength with a weak leech on the totem pole like Ganondorf. Samus has!

Us having no good read on Mario since 2005 is coming back to bite us.
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#300 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/29/2013 10:27:04 AM | message detail
So if Squall beats Missingno, he has a great chance to beat Mario now, wow.
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