Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1134

#51 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/28/2013 2:55:21 PM | message detail
lol @ people who think L block = Missing no.

L block is well known joke character that can have varied strength.

missingno is a joke from pokemon games. He barely beat Tidus last round. He will get crushed by Squall.
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#52 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2013 2:55:28 PM | message detail
Rallying against a joke is damn near impossible. People froth at the mouth to take down Link, Cloud, Sephiroth... but L-Block? Missingno? Congrats, you beat a tetris block or a glitch. What an accomplishment.

Jokes can only be defeated by raw, overpowering strength.
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#53 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 8/28/2013 2:56:22 PM | message detail
WTF is going on in this contest I don't know anymore.

And OBVIOUSLY Missingno. will still find a way to bomb because let's alla gather together and kill my bracket.
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#54 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/28/2013 2:56:37 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Personally I think rallying on a neutral place is pretty much risky for every character
We don't know /r/gaming population
They can be like...the oppostie of Gamefaqs- hates Nintendo,Final Fantasy,Pokemon...and like westren games like Call of Duty
Maybe 90% of them plays LoL
Maybe "Dragonborn" is Noble Nine material there

We just don't know,that's why it's risky to rally there for anyone really
Unless someone from here visits that subreddit often and can tell us what they like the most?


Sure, it's risky, but so was rallying Draven and I mean, look how that gamble paid off. You can say it won't work, but that's the thing - no one has tried it, really tried it. We just don't know. And the only way to learn the truth is to take the plunge.
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#55 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/28/2013 2:56:55 PM | message detail | (edited)
SuorGenoveffa posted...
And OBVIOUSLY Missingno. will still find a way to bomb because let's alla gather together and kill my bracket.


We can only hope.
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#56 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/28/2013 2:56:48 PM | message detail
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Omitted scores got it wrong.

Really easy match. Top 475 gets it right.

No one fell off the Top 49.
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#57 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 8/28/2013 3:01:24 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
SuorGenoveffa posted...
And OBVIOUSLY Missingno. will still find a way to bomb because let's alla gather together and kill my bracket.


We can only hope.


Depends.

Can Squall cheat as well as Tidus?
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#58 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/28/2013 3:03:23 PM | message detail | (edited)
Karma Hunter posted...
Rallying against a joke is damn near impossible. People froth at the mouth to take down Link, Cloud, Sephiroth... but L-Block? Missingno? Congrats, you beat a tetris block or a glitch. What an accomplishment.

Jokes can only be defeated by raw, overpowering strength.


L blocks raw strength now is that of what you saw last round and this round. He was worth about 44% on Pikachu after 2008. That's how much auron would get on the Rat.

So no. He won't do anything this contest or in the final should he magically be teleported there. What you and I saw last week was Pure and overpowering strength from Draven. The single greatest performance in Character battle history. Not even 2008 Block can compete with that.

People forget L blocks victories in 2008 was Gfaqs having a good laugh. Keyword there being Gamefaqs. Now he's just a nostalgic memory for some and has some strength based on his general joke status. He will always put these kind of numbers against decent midcarders. Nothing more. I've already said that if you replace Auron with a pokemon Block fails hard. Most of the blocks votes are coming from the starved pokemon fanboys who want to vote for something.
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#59 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:02:48 PM | message detail
Geez, Auron stuffers really suck compared to Tidus stuffers.
#60 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2013 3:03:21 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Rallying against a joke is damn near impossible. People froth at the mouth to take down Link, Cloud, Sephiroth... but L-Block? Missingno? Congrats, you beat a tetris block or a glitch. What an accomplishment.

Jokes can only be defeated by raw, overpowering strength.


L blocks raw strength now is that of what you saw last round and this round. He was worth about 44% on Pikachu after 2008. That's how much auron would get on the Rat.

So no. He won't do anything this contest or in the final should he magically be teleported there. What you and I saw last week was Pure and overpowering strength from Draven. The single greatest performance in Character battle history. Not even 2008 Block can compete with that.

People forget L blocks victories in 2008 was Gfaqs having a good laugh. Keyword there being Gamefaqs. Now he's just a nostalgic memory for some and has some strength based on his general joke status. He will always put these kind of numbers against decent midcarders. Nothing more.


If you think Auron is worth 44% on Pikachu 2008 (or indeed that Pikachu 2013 = Pikachu 2008) there's not a lot of potential for improvement here.
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#61 | xp1337 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:03:42 PM | message detail
You mean 2007 L-Block.

2008 L-Block was the year we all rallied to Pikachu's side as he joined forces with Crono to save the contest.
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#62 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:04:19 PM | message detail
Why people hadn't faith on the CHAMPION?You know that the block won a contest right?Yeah it is weaker now but still a champion is a champion.
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#63 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/28/2013 3:04:54 PM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
You know that the block won a contest right?


No, I didn't know that.

If only I had realized this when making my bracket.
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#64 | xp1337 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:05:31 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Safer_777 posted...
You know that the block won a contest right?


No, I didn't know that.

If only I had realized this when making my bracket.

no wonder you keep leading all these poor users astray with your predictions
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#65 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/28/2013 3:05:58 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
If you think Auron is worth 44% on Pikachu 2008 (or indeed that Pikachu 2013 = Pikachu 2008) there's not a lot of potential for improvement here.


It'd line up with Pikachu's performance on Snake pretty well, actually...!
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#66 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/28/2013 3:06:24 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
If you think Auron is worth 44% on Pikachu 2008 (or indeed that Pikachu 2013 = Pikachu 2008) there's not a lot of potential for improvement here.


It'd line up with Pikachu's performance on Snake pretty well, actually...!


First thought that crossed my mind too. Augh
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#67 | Masato_Tanaka | Posted 8/28/2013 3:06:31 PM | message detail
#68 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/28/2013 3:09:47 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
The_Djoker posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Rallying against a joke is damn near impossible. People froth at the mouth to take down Link, Cloud, Sephiroth... but L-Block? Missingno? Congrats, you beat a tetris block or a glitch. What an accomplishment.

Jokes can only be defeated by raw, overpowering strength.


L blocks raw strength now is that of what you saw last round and this round. He was worth about 44% on Pikachu after 2008. That's how much auron would get on the Rat.

So no. He won't do anything this contest or in the final should he magically be teleported there. What you and I saw last week was Pure and overpowering strength from Draven. The single greatest performance in Character battle history. Not even 2008 Block can compete with that.

People forget L blocks victories in 2008 was Gfaqs having a good laugh. Keyword there being Gamefaqs. Now he's just a nostalgic memory for some and has some strength based on his general joke status. He will always put these kind of numbers against decent midcarders. Nothing more.


If you think Auron is worth 44% on Pikachu 2008 (or indeed that Pikachu 2013 = Pikachu 2008) there's not a lot of potential for improvement here.


I don't know how much he's worth. All I know is that L blocks strength is largely based on the characters he faces. He does have decent base strength though.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3295

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3833

I'd take Charizard to double Block now with ease.
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#69 | SliceSabre | Posted 8/28/2013 3:10:04 PM | message detail
I maintain L-Block winning any contest is a joke and brings nothing but shame upon the contest in and of iteself.

I refuse to accept this.
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#70 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:12:09 PM | message detail
Charizard put up 61% on L-Block in 2010, 1v1. But L's strength is just incredibly variable. He had an 825 vote lead on Link after 5 minutes. Wow.
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#71 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:12:16 PM | message detail
SliceSabre posted...
I maintain L-Block winning any contest is a joke and brings nothing but shame upon the contest in and of iteself.

I refuse to accept this.


The contests are joke ever since 2002 when Link was declared "Best character ever"
Because of that,this is no longer about who is the best character but rather what is more popular
And...maybe a Tetris piece is more popular than a FFX character...who knows
#72 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:12:55 PM | message detail
SliceSabre posted...
I maintain L-Block winning any contest is a joke and brings nothing but shame upon the contest in and of iteself.

I refuse to accept this.


I maintain that L-Block>Draven would be the most hilarious contest result of all time just for the salt
#73 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/28/2013 3:14:20 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
SliceSabre posted...
I maintain L-Block winning any contest is a joke and brings nothing but shame upon the contest in and of iteself.

I refuse to accept this.


I maintain that L-Block>Draven would be the most hilarious contest result of all time just for the salt


Most of the salt would come from L>Mario. That'd be the real travesty.
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#74 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/28/2013 3:16:06 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Charizard put up 61% on L-Block in 2010, 1v1. But L's strength is just incredibly variable. He had an 825 vote lead on Link after 5 minutes. Wow.



Looks like L block only loses to Pokemon.
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#75 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:16:37 PM | message detail
L > Mario by that point would be par for the course and not even noteworthy. L has already smashed Link and Cloud before. Beating Draven would be hilarious, but still sad. A fitting end for this joke of a contest.
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#76 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:16:53 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Charizard put up 61% on L-Block in 2010, 1v1. But L's strength is just incredibly variable. He had an 825 vote lead on Link after 5 minutes. Wow.



Looks like L block only loses to Pokemon.


the wiki does say Pokemon is L-Block's weakness....!
#77 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/28/2013 3:18:33 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
L > Mario by that point would be par for the course and not even noteworthy. L has already smashed Link and Cloud before. Beating Draven would be hilarious, but still sad. A fitting end for this joke of a contest.


No, L-Block beating Mario would be a monumental achievement. Mario is entirely different from Link and Cloud in what he's a proxy for.
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#78 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/28/2013 3:19:01 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
L > Mario by that point would be par for the course and not even noteworthy. L has already smashed Link and Cloud before. Beating Draven would be hilarious, but still sad. A fitting end for this joke of a contest.


L > Mario would be great but Deathnote characters aren't allowed in this contest.
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#79 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:19:59 PM | message detail
Looks like L block only loses to Pokemon.

The list of characters L-Block has lost to:

Kirby
Kratos
Solid Snake
Crono
Pikachu
Charizard

List of characters that have eliminated L-Block:

Crono
Pikachu
Charizard

L has never been eliminated in a match in which pokemon were not present.
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#80 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/28/2013 3:20:06 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
The contests are joke ever since 2002 when Link was declared "Best character ever"
Because of that,this is no longer about who is the best character but rather what is more popular
And...maybe a Tetris piece is more popular than a FFX character...who knows


But it's always been about who is most popular! And it's clear the most popular character on GameFAQs is Draven (or Mewtwo)!

Anyway, nothing but Pokemon and joke characters in Round 3? Best contest ever!
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#81 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:21:57 PM | message detail
No, L-Block beating Mario would be a monumental achievement. Mario is entirely different from Link and Cloud in what he's a proxy for.

Doesn't matter at that point. At that point, Draven has curbstomped Link, and L-Block/Mario is all about who has the better chance of taking down Draven. And Mario has no chance against Draven.

He might still win the semifinal, if GameFAQs gives up on beating Draven.
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#82 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/28/2013 3:24:11 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
No, L-Block beating Mario would be a monumental achievement. Mario is entirely different from Link and Cloud in what he's a proxy for.

Doesn't matter at that point. At that point, Draven has curbstomped Link, and L-Block/Mario is all about who has the better chance of taking down Draven. And Mario has no chance against Draven.

He might still win the semifinal, if GameFAQs gives up on beating Draven.


Funny, because the singular result we have pointing to super rallies says Mario deals with them infinitely better than Link. Like, 'steal 30% more votes' better.
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#83 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/28/2013 3:24:26 PM | message detail
Kefka's going to be in a contest longer than Link.

This really is the best contest!
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#84 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/28/2013 3:25:06 PM | message detail
Squall could outlast the entire Noble Nine
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#85 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/28/2013 3:26:28 PM | message detail
Or he could end up being weaker than Tidus!

Tidus as strongest FF character would be the best outcome from this contest (other than Kefka taking it).
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#86 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/28/2013 3:27:51 PM | message detail
#87 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:27:58 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Kefka's going to be in a contest longer than Link.

This really is the best contest!


how the hell is Kefka gonna beat Snake

well I guess he'll survive longer by virtue of his 3rd round match being later, I guess?
#88 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:28:37 PM | message detail
Funny, because the singular result we have pointing to super rallies says Mario deals with them infinitely better than Link. Like, 'steal 30% more votes' better.

So if you put Mario in Link's place in that 2007 final, he's down by 700 votes after 5 minutes instead of 800. Or more likely, he's down 900 because the strength gap between Link and Mario is far greater than any greater Mario has to rallying.

And the singular result we have pointing to Mario resisting rallies was a match SMB won with 80%. Vincent resisted Kerrigan rallies when he was getting that percentage.
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#89 | Dabrikishaw15 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:30:45 PM | message detail
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#90 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:34:55 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Nanis23 posted...
The contests are joke ever since 2002 when Link was declared "Best character ever"
Because of that,this is no longer about who is the best character but rather what is more popular
And...maybe a Tetris piece is more popular than a FFX character...who knows


But it's always been about who is most popular! And it's clear the most popular character on GameFAQs is Draven (or Mewtwo)!

Anyway, nothing but Pokemon and joke characters in Round 3? Best contest ever!


I think that back then in 2002 it was about "best character" and only after Link won (having no personality) it was accepted that those contests are popularity contests and not about the better character
Maybe I remember wrong though
#91 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/28/2013 3:35:13 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Kefka's going to be in a contest longer than Link.

This really is the best contest!


Unless Chokefka... well, you know.
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#92 | ZFS | Posted 8/28/2013 3:35:45 PM | message detail
Yeah, honestly, the solution to rallying for characters Draven or Missingno or L-Block is not 'do your own rallies!!' because that's not really how it works. Some things are naturally easier to rally for, and respect level almost doesn't matter when it comes to large rallies. It's why most people don't think Draven/Link is interesting, and why the whole contest was kinda over in round 2.
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#93 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/28/2013 3:35:58 PM | message detail
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Unless Chokefka... well, you know.


Only way it won't happen is if Link slays the Draven.
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#94 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:35:59 PM | message detail
Hint: The Link fanbase honestly and truthfully believes that Link is a great character.
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#95 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/28/2013 3:38:47 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Funny, because the singular result we have pointing to super rallies says Mario deals with them infinitely better than Link. Like, 'steal 30% more votes' better.

So if you put Mario in Link's place in that 2007 final, he's down by 700 votes after 5 minutes instead of 800. Or more likely, he's down 900 because the strength gap between Link and Mario is far greater than any greater Mario has to rallying.

And the singular result we have pointing to Mario resisting rallies was a match SMB won with 80%. Vincent resisted Kerrigan rallies when he was getting that percentage.


Not talking about that. Look at the Gamespot. That's the only (only) example we have of a super rally coming from one place. Link got 85-15'd by Gordon Freeman when Valve rallied the latter. Mario went 45-55 with him in spite of the rally being there from the word go. That's a humongous difference in ability to resist rally power, one that can't simply be ignored by saying 'it's GameSpot' because it was all about the rallied votes. It's why I think Mario is the guy best equipped to finish off Draven, L-Block or anyone else that comes along. It's hard to rally Mario because he has a whole bunch of X-Factors that Link doesn't have, cannot have, and never will have regardless of what site you go to.
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#96 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:40:11 PM | message detail
And Mario still lost 55-45. Link didn't lose 85-15 either, he lost like 60/40 or something. Not a huge difference.
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#97 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/28/2013 3:40:29 PM | message detail
Or, to put it in a different way - Link is Rush, with an unbroken chain of albums that went Gold that stretches into infinity and enormous support from its fans.

Mario? Mario's The Beatles. With a sufficiently large sample size you could not get anyone but The Beatles crowned as 'best band in the world'. Same with the plumber.
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#98 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/28/2013 3:41:14 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
And Mario still lost 55-45. Link didn't lose 85-15 either, he lost like 60/40 or something. Not a huge difference.


Link lost 85-15 in the period where rallies started. Coincidentally, that same period for Mario was his entire match. It's an incredible difference, and surely you can realize that.
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#99 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/28/2013 3:41:32 PM | message detail
So Mario just loses by less, big deal.
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#100 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/28/2013 3:41:56 PM | message detail