Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1132

#401 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 9:53:03 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
And then if Squall gets by Mario, the titans of Samus and Charizard smash into each other, each refusing to budge an inch, and Squall Lionhearts his way through again.

All paving the way for - you guessed it...

Snake/Squall V: The Revengeancing


ALL MY HYPE
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#402 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 8/27/2013 9:53:15 PM | message detail
oh my god he has theatrhythm art

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from a KH cell phone game

this is it
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#403 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/27/2013 9:53:37 PM | message detail
Wait, I just realized something.

Today's current result is because of someone being supremely overrated in the last few years. We would have likely noticed it sooner, but he was adjusted upwards in the xstats because of an SFF match against his main rival.

Are we talking about Magus or Knuckles here?
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#404 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:53:39 PM | message detail
You know it wouldn't surprise me if it ended Mario > Red > Squall. Almost zero percent chance of it happening, though. But it wouldn't be the first time RBY beats FFVIII while sharing the poll with one of the strongest entities of the site.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_vs_Pok%C3%A9mon_Red/Blue/Yellow_vs_The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time_vs_Final_Fantasy_VIII_2009
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#405 | ZFS | Posted 8/27/2013 9:53:43 PM | message detail
I dunno, 90s jeans versus that timeless overall denim!

Wait dammit this site is the 90s REDDD
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#406 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:54:37 PM | message detail
Go with Giant Dice Sora.
#407 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 9:54:52 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
You know it wouldn't surprise me if it ended Mario > Red > Squall. Almost zero percent chance of it happening, though. But it wouldn't be the first time RBY beats FFVIII while sharing the poll with one of the strongest entities of the site.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_vs_Pok%C3%A9mon_Red/Blue/Yellow_vs_The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time_vs_Final_Fantasy_VIII_2009


The difference is that R/B/Y was already stronger than FFVIII to start with.

I mean I guess hyper charged Red could be stronger than Squall, but yeah, not an entirely similar scenario.
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#408 | ZFS | Posted 8/27/2013 9:54:54 PM | message detail
Snake hold on now there's a Squirtle in the way

(That sounds terrible)
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#409 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2013 9:56:07 PM | message detail
Look I won't talk about Charizard if you won't talk about Squirtle okay
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#410 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 9:56:29 PM | message detail
All Squall all the time
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#411 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:59:56 PM | message detail
please Leonhart, Squall will beat Mario
....but it won't matter, Red will come in first
#412 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 10:00:31 PM | message detail
I'll take Squall > Mario whether it's for first or second

Still breaking the Noble Nine
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#413 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/27/2013 10:02:09 PM | message detail
StarStormScream posted...
superange128 posted...
sucks that no one watched/liked Sonic X, Knuckles was there pretty often and quite bro

Too much focus on Chris/human characters...


Yeah, I kept trying to watch that show for far too long, for most of the first season, and it was really never any good. Chris was an unbearable spotlight stealer, and the other human characters were pretty pointless distractions as well, other than Robotnik.

I did find this fan theory that Chris ultimately grows up to become Dr. Robotnik, based on things like their similar red clothing, red hair, mechanical skills, and incredibly strong feelings about Sonic, as well as the idea that Chris's perceived loneliness could lead him to build robots to keep him company. It's probably the most interesting Sonic X related thing I can thing of:

http://cobrateen.deviantart.com/art/Sonic-X-Theory-339390128
#414 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/27/2013 10:04:28 PM | message detail | (edited)
ZFS posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3504

FFX advancing over RBY is commonly credited to OoT and SSBM hurting RBY.


This is what it takes to disadvantage Pokemon - Smash Bros. and the most popular Zelda ever, and even then not enough to hurt it too much! Still in 3% range of winning. Pokemon. Does anyone else remember Xenogears?


Well, you could try other Pokemon!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3486
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#415 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 10:08:47 PM | message detail
#416 | ZFS | Posted 8/27/2013 10:16:37 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Look I won't talk about Charizard if you won't talk about Squirtle okay


I support this

24 hour matches and no sprite round maybe we can lose these two next round.
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#417 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 10:17:33 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox0eToGCy90
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#418 | ZFS | Posted 8/27/2013 10:18:06 PM | message detail
Haha what
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#419 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2013 10:24:06 PM | message detail
We are, uh, remembering how bad Knuckles' night vote is right

how bad is this going to get for him against Catherine
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#420 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/27/2013 10:24:59 PM | message detail
Geez, Knuckles, you are one of my favorite characters, but you really suck.
#421 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 10:25:53 PM | message detail
Knuckles has never made the third round.
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#422 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2013 10:31:22 PM | message detail
Oh, right, this is also unrallied Catherine too. Catherine woulda lost to Neku last round without those furious /v/ rallies going on all match.

...I'm kind of relieved Draven's about to kill my bracket so that Mewtwo doesn't have a chance to do it first!
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#423 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2013 10:40:10 PM | message detail
Heck. If someone starts up some /v/ rallies and catches steam Catherine is going to beat Knuckles outright.

If you've got Catherine in second for expert, you know what to do!
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#424 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 10:40:29 PM | message detail
#425 | TheOceIot | Posted 8/27/2013 10:41:35 PM | message detail
Finally made it on the leaderboard, woo hoo!
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#426 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2013 10:42:03 PM | message detail
There's always someone who goes for the crazy upset, I believe~
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#427 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 10:43:59 PM | message detail
Well, either way, if you want to rally for Catherine to beat Knuckles just for the heck of it, you probably won't suffer for it at all!
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#428 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2013 10:45:11 PM | message detail
damn you hivemind
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#429 | Masato_Tanaka | Posted 8/27/2013 10:50:18 PM | message detail
Yay glad I had Blue winning, might actually end up back on the top 50 at some point after all
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#430 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/27/2013 10:58:25 PM | message detail | (edited)
Also, one thing that's eluded me is... Why did DKC2 bomb so badly in the games contest??? Even if it was SFFed to hell, that can only mean so much...
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#431 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 10:58:47 PM | message detail
Possibly SFF'd by Mario RPG, but long story short, it's not as popular as B8 makes it out to be.

Sadly.
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#432 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 8/27/2013 11:10:44 PM | message detail
Not bad, Samus proves she's still got it, though this might be Knuckles waning in the presence of strong Nintendo character and that Catherine/Neku are really that god-awful. Regardless, I'd take her to beat Cloud today.
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#433 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/27/2013 11:12:44 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Possibly SFF'd by Mario RPG, but long story short, it's not as popular as B8 makes it out to be.

Sadly.


I'd say Goldeneye wasn't doing it any favors, either. But DKC just isn't as popular as some of the other SNES classics.
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#434 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2013 11:14:55 PM | message detail
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Score-Brackets-% Right
119----1------------100.00
118----0------------0.00
117----0------------0.00
116----2------------0.00
115----2------------50.00
114----1------------100.00
113----8------------62.50
112----6------------66.67
111----13----------61.54
110----28----------25.00
109----46----------39.13
108----57----------42.11
107----73----------49.32
106----63----------39.68
105----78----------37.18
104----82----------37.80
103----86----------36.05
102----86----------40.70
101----112--------27.68
100----143--------29.37
99------138--------29.71
98------150--------23.33
97------193--------26.42
96------215--------19.53
95------256--------18.36
94------305--------14.43
93------325--------13.54
92------368--------15.76
91------396--------14.65
90------421--------12.35
89------463--------14.47
88------489--------11.86
87------499--------12.83
86------506--------11.86
85------529--------12.10
84------510--------9.80
83------531--------10.73
82------476--------9.66
81------468--------10.04
80------467--------8.35
79------420--------10.00
78------384--------8.85
77------402--------12.69
76------382--------10.99
75------372--------10.75
74------286--------12.59
73------324--------13.58
72------293--------10.58
71------255--------10.98
70------231--------13.85
69------222--------10.81
68------204--------13.73
67------193--------12.95
66------195--------12.31
65------156--------12.82
64------157--------12.74
63------174--------10.34
62------137--------13.87
61------150--------14.00
60------158--------17.72
59------127--------15.75
58------101--------14.85
57------118--------8.47
56------75----------17.33
55------92----------20.65
54------103--------18.45
53------85----------11.76
52------78----------8.97
51------64----------9.38
50------62----------17.74
49------57----------14.04
48------56----------7.14
47------47----------14.89
46------50----------10.00
45------43----------11.63
44------46----------17.39
43------46----------13.04
42------25----------16.00
41------25----------16.00
40------27----------25.93
39------29----------13.79
38------21----------23.81
37------24----------12.50
36------19----------21.05
35------20----------5.00
34------11----------9.09
33------12----------8.33
32------7------------0.00
31------11----------27.27
30------7------------14.29
29------7------------14.29
28------4------------25.00
27------4------------0.00
26------0------------0.00
25------11----------9.09
24------2------------0.00
23------4------------25.00
22------2------------0.00
21------1------------100.00
20------4------------25.00

Omitted scores got it wrong.

Easy match to call now but it wasn't so easy at the start of the contest. The current -16s (116 points) get wiped out. SuorGenoveffa is now 4 points ahead of everyone else. The prediction percentage in the top tiers is about 40% and this drops off into the 10s at the mid tiers.

16 people fell off the Top 49. JaySolano, JordockX, mrdean55, Pondos, th3l3fty, Ambertwo, Board8_BOP, Cipher_Miror_B, DGKMO, Doooooooooougie, Gooper_Blooper, iGenesis, Kumatora, LinkMarioSamus, Link_Fanboy and Luis_Sera89 did not have Blue winning.

8 people got it wrong and survived. Former second place ChenKenichiFan, former third place Flock_Masta_P, EdBellis, Astro1446, Djungelurban, Xcarvenger, Karma_Hunter and POOTERSS also did not have Blue winning.


I was back on the leaderboard briefly? Wow.

And yay my favorite character is absolutely killing the competition here.
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#435 | creativename | Posted 8/27/2013 11:15:01 PM | message detail
ZinsanityCraze posted...
Not bad, Samus proves she's still got it, though this might be Knuckles waning in the presence of strong Nintendo character and that Catherine/Neku are really that god-awful. Regardless, I'd take her to beat Cloud today.

Considering the fact that a lot of people are seriously considering Squirtle>Cloud, Samus>Cloud should almost be a given at this point.

if Cloud can somehow finally exploit 24 hour matches to return to Samus beating powers, that would be a hell of an achievement after the fool he's made of himself so far in 12 hour matches.
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#436 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/27/2013 11:17:03 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
ZinsanityCraze posted...
Not bad, Samus proves she's still got it, though this might be Knuckles waning in the presence of strong Nintendo character and that Catherine/Neku are really that god-awful. Regardless, I'd take her to beat Cloud today.

Considering the fact that a lot of people are seriously considering Squirtle>Cloud, Samus>Cloud should almost be a given at this point.

if Cloud can somehow finally exploit 24 hour matches to return to Samus beating powers, that would be a hell of an achievement after the fool he's made of himself so far in 12 hour matches.


please
Squirtle>Samus hype for CBX, let's do this
#437 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/27/2013 11:20:18 PM | message detail | (edited)
If the SNES DKC games meant a lot to this site, Donkey Kong would never have been as low on the Nintendo totem pole as he is/was and Diddy wouldn't have gotten 60-40ed by Captain Falcon despite also being in Brawl.
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#438 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/27/2013 11:22:25 PM | message detail
How comparable are Frog and Knuckles? Cloud fails to get near doubling Frog yet Saumus can almost triple Knuckles...... Would Frog crush Knuckles or is Cloud just hopeless this year?
#439 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/27/2013 11:22:57 PM | message detail
This is ZSS tripling Knuckles. Even if you think Knuckles is weak now, that's still pretty darn strong. I'd be willing to take Samus as our #2 indirectly after this (she still loses a heads-up match to Mario though).
#440 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/27/2013 11:27:03 PM | message detail | (edited)
Knuckles is barely getting more on Catherine than Frog got on Lugia right now. Not saying Samus isn't beasting it, but this reflects Knuckles being vulnerable to Nintendo SFF and weak now (Cecil/Knux 2010 suddenly makes a lot more sense) more than anything else.
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#441 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2013 11:26:44 PM | message detail
Either Samus avoided an Other M deboost, Knuckles is fodder now, or Samus is somehow SFFing a non-Nintendo character.

Though on that last point, I kinda feel as if Samus's "inability" to SFF has been talked about too much. Let's look at the cases:

-2003: Isaac isn't in Smash Bros. (at least he wasn't yet!)
-2005: Samus gets a little SFF on Ganondorf, likely due to SSB influence.
-2006: Samus fails to SFF Nidoran F, but we'll excuse her because Pokemon has generally proved resistant to Nintendo SFF. Samus fails to SFF Zelda, but Zelda was overperforming on Twilight Princess hype.
-2007: Did Samus get any SFF on Midna? Wouldn't really make sense for her to do it to Midna or Yoshi, since neither of those characters are reliant on Smash Bros. for strength. Unlike...
-2008: ...Ganondorf, and...
-2010: ...Zelda.

Though in this case Samus SFFing Knuckles still doesn't make sense, if she only SFFs characters who draw a significant amount of strength from Smash Bros.
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#442 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2013 11:28:10 PM | message detail
Samus isn't even hitting her projections on Catherine based on Neku, and while Neku should be a touch stronger Catherine is definitely weaker compared to last round. Samus's one saving grace is that Knuckles is probably leeching her slightly, but tripling a Knuckles that's going 50/50 with Catherine right now isn't anything Mario couldn't do.
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#443 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/27/2013 11:28:13 PM | message detail
LMS, Link SFF smashed Sonic into the ground. It makes perfect sense for Samus to SFF Knuckles.
#444 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/27/2013 11:29:04 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Samus isn't even hitting her projections on Catherine based on Neku, and while Neku should be a touch stronger Catherine is definitely weaker compared to last round. Samus's one saving grace is that Knuckles is probably leeching her slightly, but tripling a Knuckles that's going 50/50 with Catherine right now isn't anything Mario couldn't do.


Yeah, but what is Samus getting here with a non-ZSS suit? That's the real question we all need to ask ourselves.
#445 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2013 11:30:21 PM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
This is ZSS tripling Knuckles. Even if you think Knuckles is weak now, that's still pretty darn strong. I'd be willing to take Samus as our #2 indirectly after this (she still loses a heads-up match to Mario though).


NOW of all times, when Metroid is dead and Mario is Nintendo's #1 franchise? Of all the times for Samus to be stronger than Mario indirectly.

Then again, it's not like Nintendo has released much in the way of big games since 2010 or even 2008. And it's not like Samus is getting the Mega Man treatment now - Nintendo is doing everything short of actually announcing a new game to make it seem like her series is still viewed as a key franchise for the company, and that one problem can be forgiven seeing how it's not like a new Mario or Zelda game has been announced either.
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#446 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 11:33:22 PM | message detail
Knuckles struggling to put up a good number on Celes despite Seifer being in the poll and Celes literally being in nothing that should have benefited her (like Dissidia) should've been a warning flag about him last round.
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#447 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2013 11:36:50 PM | message detail
ZSS has already made sporadic appearances since Samus/Tifa and it hasn't affected Samus, now that SSBB has been actually released. This is just SFF coupled with a decent performance on Catherine. It's nothing that Mario couldn't do - heck, I'd call his thrashing of Duke much more impressive.
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#448 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/27/2013 11:39:25 PM | message detail
Knuckles is trying very hard to convince us a Knuckles/Magus rematch would be debatable.
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#449 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2013 11:40:12 PM | message detail
Him thrashing a Duke coming off of Duke Nukem Forever.

Getting 78% on the hero of an infamous game, impressive?

Meanwhile Samus is killing the fan favorite of a series that has been on the resurgence.
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#450 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 11:40:24 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Knuckles is trying very hard to convince us a Knuckles/Magus rematch would be debatable.


He's still ahead of Sandbag!
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