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| I'm tempted to throw in the towel on Sonic if Sonic characters fold this much
 in the presence of Nintendo. It ain't like Bowser should be far off 
what Kirby scored on him in 2010, and Mewtwo is not gonna give a damn 
about the others. Consider it Charizard's warmup for killing Mario and 
Samus. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) | 
| Ezio was a brand new character in 2010. In 2013, he's an established character who's had a very well received trilogy. You can connect the dots from there. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" | 
| LeonhartFour posted... SAMUS WHAT ARE YOU DOING new theory zss is actually a boost for samus. tifa was just a monster in 2006 who would have beat samus under normal circumstances --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX | 
| Karma Hunter posted... I'm tempted to throw in the towel on Sonic if Sonic characters fold this much in the presence of Nintendo. Sonic didn't fold to Ganon or Kirby! why does every contest end with everyone abandoning Sonic while I continue to support him beyond reason --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif | 
| ZSS
 was unfamiliar to a lot of people in 2006. That Brawl trailer was 
enough to boost Snake, but it probably wasn't enough to get everyone to 
react the same way to ZSS and regular ol' Samus. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif | 
| zss is actually a boost for samus. More like ZSS is holding her back, can't even break 80% on fodder. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 101/135 Today's Picks: Samus and Auron | 
| xp1337 posted... LeonhartFour posted...SAMUS WHAT ARE YOU DOING ZSS could help, as Brawl has made people aware that is Samus. | 
| And now we have TWO big examples of Sonic folding disproportionately (as in, more than actual Nintendo characters) to Nintendo - this match and Link/Sonic. The Noble Nine's officially got a hit out on it now. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) | 
| So
 what are we saying with Pokemon? It seems like people give it the 
benefit of all Nintendo matches and SFF matches, so is it even, as far 
as the contests go, a 'Nintendo' thing or just 'Pokemon,' sort of its 
own deal? Sonic is screwed, though, if only because of Bowser. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 | 
| But
 the thing with Sonic is that if he's truly a "Nintendo" character now, 
than as a Noble 9er, the face of a huge franchise, and Mario's freakin' 
rival, he SHOULD be strong enough to SFF Nintendo characters outright, 
and it didn't seem like he did that with Kirby. If Sonic does the same 
to Bowser and finishes with a 55/45 split, Mewtwo could reap the 
benefits and win. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg | 
| Sonic is the exception! THE EXCEPTION Regardless, there's a big difference between Link and Samus, and Bowser and Mewtwo. It's not like Bowser's held up like a champ to good Nintendo characters either. Remember that Mewtwo put up a really good number on him in 2007 simply because Toad was in the poll. Mewtwo's just the wild card. --- http://gifsoup.com/view4/2077316/thane-dance-o.gif http://gifsoup.com/view1/1334641/pop-that-collar-o.gif | 
| Do I have to explicitly mark when I'm not serious? =( I would have thought "ZSS is a boost!" would be self-evident! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX | 
| Pokemon
 is clearly Nintendo - it's severely hurt other Nintendo entities in the
 past. It just... resists SFF more than any other Ninty entity out 
there. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) | 
| I doubt Sonic would fold to any Nintendo character outside of Link, Mario and Samus. We've seen him beat guys like Ganondorf, Kirby and Luigi before. The major problem is if Pokemon is independent enough that him and Bowser hinder each other far more than they do Mewtwo. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom | 
| Ezio/L-Block's
 an interesting one. Ezio beat Tails by roughly the same margin that 
Kratos did in 2010, and Kratos outperformed L-Block on the Zard pretty 
heavily. But he's sharing the poll with Auron, a fellow male badass, 
which might let L get back in. BUT, jokes have been looking poor all 
contest, and even though he got 60% in R1, he did so against Teemo and Palutena. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information | 
| Yeah,
 the issue isn't really Sonic folding. It's Mewtwo being the most 
independent of the three, and Sonic and Bowser NOT folding to each 
other. --- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg | 
| I
 dunno, it's just weird that in an all Nintendo match, Pokemon will 
often get treated as though it were completely independent, like a 
Square character almost. Doesn't seem like Pokemon runs into unfavorable
 circumstances, as far as these discussions go, unless there's another 
Pokemon there. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 | 
| That's at least a change of pace from them being seen as the scrappy underdogs It's time to accept our Pokemon overlords --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (is also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif | 
| Well, Mewtwo will be affected. It's just a matter of how much. I think Sonic's a good bit stronger than Mewtwo 1-on-1 though. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" | 
| Is anybody going to bother to rally for L-Block? | 
| ZFS posted... I dunno, it's just weird that in an all Nintendo match, Pokemon will often get treated as though it were completely independent, like a Square character almost. Doesn't seem like Pokemon runs into unfavorable circumstances, as far as these discussions go, unless there's another Pokemon there. Hey, I'm not saying it's fair! Pokemon obviously gets hurt to an extent but that's when it's getting leeched against truly independent entities like Square, MGS, etc. Against all-Nintendo opponents, that isn't a problem. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) | 
| TheKoolAidShoto posted... That's at least a change of pace from them being seen as the scrappy underdogs I'm already bracing for the Mario loss to one of these dumb things Pokemon the crusher of dreams really what kind of champion is it --- tune in tokyo 142.94 | 
| ChenKenichiFan posted... Holy crap, 61%? With that picture? What a god damn crusher. I really doubt this chick loses to Cloud 1v1 now. Yeah, Samus has likely stayed constant (nobody played Other M so no deboost) while Cloud has tanked. Samus should have this even in a 24 hour match. Cloud would have scored between 53%-53.75% on Samus in a 24 hour match last contest, but it looks very likely Cloud has dropped more than 4 points in strength. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery | 
| You should just root for Squall > Mario so you don't have to suffer the ignominy of losing to Pokeymanz --- http://gifsoup.com/view/874243/big-boss-o.gif | 
| LeonhartFour posted... Samus finally loses percentage. All to Catherine. Knuckles is still dying. How close is Catherine going to get to Knux --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) | 
| Only a matter of time before she cuts Knuckles --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 101/135 Today's Picks: Samus and Auron | 
| Knux getting trip --- ~ The Dilated One IX: Link-VV-BB-SS-Cloud-Sora-Samus-Mario-Zard | 
| ZFS posted... I dunno, it's just weird that in an all Nintendo match, Pokemon will often get treated as though it were completely independent, like a Square character almost. Doesn't seem like Pokemon runs into unfavorable circumstances, as far as these discussions go, unless there's another Pokemon there. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3504 FFX advancing over RBY is commonly credited to OoT and SSBM hurting RBY. --- Pokemon VGC2013 US National - 39th place Pokemon VGC2013 Worlds LCQ - Top 32 | 
| Goddamn you Catherine --- Oh SuperNiceDog's doing it again dude. SuperNiceDog, you ain't no pimp dude | 
| Man, Samus hasn't had anything good in five years (six if you don't count Brawl). How is she still so popular? --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. | 
| Trend chart from the day match: Time | G&W | Drake | Blue | Votes 0:05 | 14.18% | 36.28% | 49.54% | 543 1:00 | 16.75% | 34.41% | 48.84% | 4705 2:00 | 18.14% | 34.33% | 47.53% | 3600 3:00 | 19.94% | 32.74% | 47.33% | 3085 4:00 | 18.82% | 33.77% | 47.41% | 2843 5:00 | 19.84% | 34.62% | 45.54% | 2666 6:00 | 17.92% | 33.27% | 48.81% | 2444 7:00 | 20.16% | 35.86% | 43.98% | 2292 8:00 | 20.40% | 33.94% | 45.65% | 2127 9:00 | 18.57% | 34.99% | 46.44% | 1869 10:00 | 18.84% | 35.24% | 45.91% | 1799 11:00 | 18.57% | 33.23% | 48.20% | 1691 12:00 | 19.91% | 31.86% | 48.23% | 1497 Trends here aren't really consistent, but I'd wager it's because these are all day characters. X-Stats: Pokemon Trainer Blue  50.00% Fox McCloud  47.79% Nathan Drake  41.95% Pac-Man  40.39% Mr. Game & Watch  28.49% Lee Everett  27.52% Steve  26.60% Meat Boy  20.97% Wolf ODonnell  13.86% Blue's prediction percentage was 14.27% --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png http://img.imgcake.com/nio/daigohadoupnguj.png | 
| LOLContests posted... Man, Samus hasn't had anything good in five years (six if you don't count Brawl). How is she still so popular? Design and nostalgia. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" | 
| LeonhartFour posted... You should just root for Squall > Mario so you don't have to suffer the ignominy of losing to Pokeymanz I'm rooting for Squall to not lose to the glitch. That picture, man. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 | 
| I'm calling shenanigans if Squall loses --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" | 
| LOLContests posted... Man, Samus hasn't had anything good in five years (six if you don't count Brawl). How is she still so popular? The last 7 years don't even exist to most of the people on this site. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery | 
| Team Rocket Elite posted... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3504 This is what it takes to disadvantage Pokemon - Smash Bros. and the most popular Zelda ever, and even then not enough to hurt it too much! Still in 3% range of winning. Pokemon. Does anyone else remember Xenogears? --- tune in tokyo 142.94 | 
| Current X-Stats: Samus Aran  50.00% Knuckles the Echidna  26.24% Sandbag  21.58% Celes Chere  20.90% Catherine  20.11% Neku Sakuraba  19.60% Seifer Almasy  17.54% Isaac Clarke  15.56% Vaas Montenegro  14.43% --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png | 
| If
 Squall has remained constant (a... dicey proposition, but let's assume 
it for now), Mario needs to be scared to death of him if he gets past 
Missingno. Red is almost assuredly going to be in that match. The 
picsmiths are undoubtedly going to make sure he looks like the 
incarnation of RBY itself. And he. Will. Not. Fold. How much damage can Mario take? --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) | 
| Squall is the strongest FF character now, so I think he can do it. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" | 
| ZFS posted... LeonhartFour posted...You should just root for Squall > Mario so you don't have to suffer the ignominy of losing to Pokeymanz Bacon, you can quit rigging things in favor of Pokemon anytime now. Really, anytime now. I'm expecting a Keanu Reeves/Vincent Vega type pic for Sora now. Quick - let's try to find the worst possible pics for Sora out there! Just so we are prepared for the inevitable. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery | 
| Red sux Mario will put some red human SFF on that --- tune in tokyo 142.94 | 
| creativename posted... Quick - let's try to find the worst possible pics for Sora out there! Just so we are prepared for the inevitable. http://images.wikia.com/kingdomhearts/images/archive/e/eb/20090716130435!Sora_(Atlantica)_CG.jpg --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png | 
| But you know the more I think about it, one more reason to get rid of multiways - it hurts everyone but Pokemon. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 | 
| ZFS posted... Red sux Mario will put some red human SFF on that Red seems to have better fashion sense than Mario though, could be rSFF. I mean suspenders, come on now Mario. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery | 
| Good thing about Squall/Red/Mario is that Squall will stand out like crazy there. BRIGHT RED CHEERINESS vs. DARK AND BROODING BLACKNESS --- http://i.imgur.com/eqOQs.gif | 
| And
 then if Squall gets by Mario, the titans of Samus and Charizard smash 
into each other, each refusing to budge an inch, and Squall Lionhearts 
his way through again. All paving the way for - you guessed it... Snake/Squall V: The Revengeancing --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) | 
| probably concept art sora http://i.imgur.com/jYqyMFQ.png or little babby sora http://i.imgur.com/pIh0VDA.png maybe sick naked sora http://i.imgur.com/JXemQWq.png and my favorite: giant dice sora http://i.imgur.com/VNn7g9H.png --- ~Zen | 
| Seriously Merman Sora is the worst picture he can possibly get. --- http://gifsoup.com/view/477513/red-vs-blue-road-rage-part-1-o.gif http://gifsoup.com/view/477534/red-vs-blue-road-rage-part-2-o.gif | 
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