Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1131

#351 | Janus5000 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:03:23 PM | message detail
Yoshi had a pretty bad early vote last time, too (it took him a while to completely pull away from Lu Bu) but yeah this is something
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#352 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/26/2013 9:03:30 PM | message detail
Such a fitting result for Groose.
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#353 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/26/2013 9:03:31 PM | message detail
I still can't believe Groose lost as bad as he did. He actually has memes and stuff. The fanbase loves him.

I think Skyward Sword is going to be shockingly weak. Like... unspeakably weak for a Zelda game.
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#354 | creativename | Posted 8/26/2013 9:03:57 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I can't believe you guys talked me into believing anyone cared about Groose

dat ZeldaFEAR
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#355 | thunderstruck9 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:04:57 PM | message detail
Only ten percent of the users of this site are under the age of eighteen? So we have a bunch of adults voting all these Pokemon through? Well I'm proud to say I haven't voted for a single one. Lol. Don't get me wrong I like Pokemon I just don't view them as good "characters". I put them on par with inanimate objects. Joke characters if you will. I don't vote for those either.
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#356 | creativename | Posted 8/26/2013 9:05:07 PM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
SBAllen calls the Pikachu match correctly.

He knew exactly what he was doing to Crono!

Well duh! He knew what he was doing to Mega Man too.

Him and Ceej both have this morbid fascination with completely stupid SFF/LFF matches.
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#357 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:05:23 PM | message detail
Zelda drones can't even drone properly, better take lessons from Pokemon
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#358 | xp1337 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:05:38 PM | message detail
Final Crono Stats

Crono ends at 46.20% on Pikachu
Crono needs Magus votes to split 76.57% or better to win 1v1 there.

I really thought (hours ago around the beginning of the match) that these would look better than this at the end. I'm taking Crono 1v1 but wow.

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#359 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/26/2013 9:06:03 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Then00bAvenger posted...
SBAllen calls the Pikachu match correctly.

He knew exactly what he was doing to Crono!

Well duh! He knew what he was doing to Mega Man too.

Him and Ceej both have this morbid fascination with completely stupid SFF/LFF matches.


Case in point: Mario vs Bowser, Crono vs Magus.
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#360 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2013 9:06:14 PM | message detail
I invented the term ZeldaFEAR and I still had a hard time believing anyone cared about Groose

but everyone kept saying GROOSE IS LOOSE and I'm really impressionable
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#361 | creativename | Posted 8/26/2013 9:06:21 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I still can't believe Groose lost as bad as he did. He actually has memes and stuff. The fanbase loves him.

I think Skyward Sword is going to be shockingly weak. Like... unspeakably weak for a Zelda game.

It's between that and AoL for weakest console Zelda.
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#362 | 2Dover3D | Posted 8/26/2013 9:06:37 PM | message detail
#363 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:06:38 PM | message detail
Only ten percent of the users of this site are under the age of eighteen? So we have a bunch of adults voting all these Pokemon through? Well I'm proud to say I haven't voted for a single one. Lol. Don't get me wrong I like Pokemon I just don't view them as good "characters". I put them on par with inanimate objects. Joke characters if you will. I don't vote for those either.

Considering Pokemon RBY came out 15 years ago it is likely that fans of the games are adults.
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#364 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/26/2013 9:08:24 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
113----1------------100.00
112----1------------0.00
111----0------------0.00
110----2------------100.00
109----1------------100.00
108----2------------50.00
107----10----------80.00
106----12----------58.33
105----18----------66.67
104----44----------61.36
103----53----------75.47
102----71----------71.83
101----87----------65.52
100----82----------63.41
99------101--------57.43
98------106--------52.83
97------129--------47.29
96------117--------42.74
95------135--------48.89
94------178--------46.63
93------199--------44.72
92------248--------41.94
91------305--------39.67
90------322--------38.51
89------339--------37.46
88------395--------38.73
87------435--------39.77
86------487--------38.40
85------514--------35.99
84------513--------37.62
83------533--------43.34
82------524--------40.46
81------538--------40.15
80------559--------41.14
79------543--------41.07
78------500--------40.80
77------554--------36.46
76------451--------39.02
75------421--------40.86
74------380--------41.32
73------410--------41.46
72------383--------42.82
71------295--------42.71
70------315--------39.68
69------302--------43.71
68------275--------39.64
67------245--------35.92
66------210--------37.62
65------200--------40.00
64------179--------35.20
63------200--------32.50
62------154--------29.22
61------169--------27.81
60------178--------33.15
59------135--------27.41
58------139--------28.78
57------154--------37.66
56------110--------30.91
55------99----------26.26
54------120--------25.00
53------85----------21.18
52------86----------24.42
51------88----------25.00
50------62----------30.65
49------67----------22.39
48------54----------14.81
47------66----------25.76
46------53----------20.75
45------58----------12.07
44------51----------21.57
43------55----------16.36
42------26----------23.08
41------34----------14.71
40------30----------6.67
39------31----------3.23
38------18----------5.56
37------27----------7.41
36------24----------8.33
35------22----------9.09
34------12----------8.33
33------12----------8.33
32------8------------25.00
31------13----------7.69
30------8------------12.50
29------8------------25.00
28------4------------25.00

Omitted scores got it wrong.

Pretty high support for Pikachu in the top tiers and decent support in the middle as well. We do lose the last -14 (112 points).

12 people fell off the Top 49. oblongman7, Runemistress, TeamRocketElite, _Harmonica_, _SecretSquirrel, akaCitizenSnips, greengravy294, KamikazePotato, Lucky_Gamer, SubDeity, vcharon and BlAcK_TuRtLe did not have Pikachu winning. I'm probably off the leaderboard for good now.

4 people got it wrong and survived. Former second place EdBellis, th3l3fty, Billy_Gates and mathmagus37 also did not have Pikachu winning.
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#365 | creativename | Posted 8/26/2013 9:08:37 PM | message detail
Also man Yoshimitsu looks ugly as f***.
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#366 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/26/2013 9:09:13 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
also, how did Board 8 control the nomination process more this time around

There were fewer overall nominations which meant board 8 had more pull, had SBAllen put a banner on the front page maybe more people would have nominated


There was a link to the nomination form on the front page.
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#367 | im317 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:10:00 PM | message detail
Cathrine or Knuckles for second?
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#368 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:10:12 PM | message detail
There was a link to the nomination form on the front page.

Does anyone read the front page, he needed a banner
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#369 | creativename | Posted 8/26/2013 9:11:14 PM | message detail
Barely anyone visits the front page let alone reads it. A banner would definitely have helped the noms.
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#370 | pyresword | Posted 8/26/2013 9:13:25 PM | message detail
Curse you pikachus.

Not only do you mess up my normal bracket by beating Crono, but you also keep me off of the expert leaderboard purely by coming alphabetically before "pyresword"
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#371 | CP724 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:14:13 PM | message detail
Does this put gilgamesh above the fodder line? Need to get some more summons from FF in next contest
#372 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/26/2013 9:14:14 PM | message detail
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12 people fell off the Top 49. oblongman7, Runemistress, TeamRocketElite, _Harmonica_, _SecretSquirrel, akaCitizenSnips, greengravy294, KamikazePotato, Lucky_Gamer, SubDeity, vcharon and BlAcK_TuRtLe did not have Pikachu winning. I'm probably off the leaderboard for good now.


I'd be a little bit more disappointed, except that I wasn't even expecting to get on the leaderboard this time around.
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#373 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:14:46 PM | message detail
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Lowest Day Individual Votes
1. Spring Breeze Dancin’ – Round 1 – 1587
2. Wolf O’Donnell – Round 1 – 2322
3. Commander Keen – Round 1 – 2769
4. Kaim Argonar – Round 1 – 2994
5. Fawful – Round 1 – 3110
6. Adol Christin – Round 1 – 3228
7. Dunban – Round 1 – 3233
8. Jade – Round 1 – 3753
9. Teemo – Round 1 – 3788
10. Magus – Round 2 – 4029

Top 10 Most Impressive Day Losers
1. Waluigi – Round 1 – 14794
2. Luigi – Round 2 – 14638
3. Aerith Gainsborough – Round 2 – 14507
4. Fox McCloud – Round 1 – 13207
5. Ridley – Round 1 – 13037
6. Crono – Round 2 – 13024
7. Terra Branford – Round 1 – 11893
8. ? Block – Round 1 – 11714
9. Neku Sakuraba – Round 1 – 11493
10. Master Chief – Round 1 – 11426
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#374 | spooky96 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:15:23 PM | message detail
Pretty high support for Pikachu in the top tiers and decent support in the middle as well. We do lose the last -14 (112 points).


If you're reading this, can you be sort of be more specific? My score was 97 and its 99 now, so just asking where would I be. Roughly, would 100+ points will be considered high/mid tier?
#375 | creativename | Posted 8/26/2013 9:16:32 PM | message detail
Oh man, Sora is beasting a night poll. These guys truly suck.

CP724 posted...
Does this put gilgamesh above the fodder line? Need to get some more summons from FF in next contest

Bahamut should have been in ages ago.

Back in the 2K3-2K5 days he would have been high midcarder.

Won't be as strong now as Square has fallen off, but would still beat most fodder very easily.
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#376 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:18:47 PM | message detail
Even the little banner on the front page wasn't that impressive, compared to what we've seen in years past.

The front page banners always caught my attention when I was a casual visitor, like the one that tied different entrants to the seven deadly sins, but I don't think this one would have left much of an impression on me. It's pretty small and unassuming, and the front page is already pretty busy, so it could easily go unnoticed.

The highlighted olive green tabs we got for Game of the Decade and Rivalry Rumble were pretty good reminders too.
#377 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/26/2013 9:19:53 PM | message detail
Does Groose even beat Tingle?
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#378 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:21:56 PM | message detail
Does Groose even beat Tingle?

Right now, probably not, but Yoshimitsu could recover a bit
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#379 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/26/2013 9:22:09 PM | message detail
spooky96 posted...
Pretty high support for Pikachu in the top tiers and decent support in the middle as well. We do lose the last -14 (112 points).


If you're reading this, can you be sort of be more specific? My score was 97 and its 99 now, so just asking where would I be. Roughly, would 100+ points will be considered high/mid tier?


I consider top tier to be the top 1% or so. Middle tiers are the bracket near the mode so around 84 points before Pikachu's win.
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#380 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2013 9:22:56 PM | message detail
Forget Groose, Yoshimitsu is about to drop below what Tingle got on Sora in 2006 - the strongest Sora we've ever seen. Groose is NOTHING.
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#381 | spooky96 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:25:37 PM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
spooky96 posted...
Pretty high support for Pikachu in the top tiers and decent support in the middle as well. We do lose the last -14 (112 points).


If you're reading this, can you be sort of be more specific? My score was 97 and its 99 now, so just asking where would I be. Roughly, would 100+ points will be considered high/mid tier?


I consider top tier to be the top 1% or so. Middle tiers are the bracket near the mode so around 84 points before Pikachu's win.


Oh alright, thanks.
#382 | StarStormScream | Posted 8/26/2013 9:26:46 PM | message detail
Wow, Groose, lol!

And this, along with Nightmare's sudden drop confirms Morrigan being the only fighting character not directly related to Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat actually worth a darn in these contests.
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#383 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/26/2013 9:27:49 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
There was a link to the nomination form on the front page.

Does anyone read the front page, he needed a banner


The nomination phase happened before Bacon introduced a new site alert system on GameFAQs. The site alert system was used to display a banner on every page of the site remaining people to fill out a bracket entry. Even with that banner, we still ended up with less entries than the Rivalry Rumble.
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#384 | Xuxon | Posted 8/26/2013 9:31:43 PM | message detail
From: StarStormScream | Posted: 8/27/2013 12:26:46 AM | #382
Wow, Groose, lol!

And this, along with Nightmare's sudden drop confirms Morrigan being the only fighting character not directly related to Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat actually worth a darn in these contests.

i could see Mai having some strength. certainly weaker than Morrigan, though.
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#385 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:34:41 PM | message detail
The nomination phase happened before Bacon introduced a new site alert system on GameFAQs. The site alert system was used to display a banner on every page of the site remaining people to fill out a bracket entry. Even with that banner, we still ended up with less entries than the Rivalry Rumble.

Still would have had more nominations than with no banner
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#386 | Janus5000 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:41:01 PM | message detail
the strongest non-SF/MK fighting game characters are actually Marth and Captain Falcon but you know
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#387 | StarStormScream | Posted 8/26/2013 9:41:17 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
From: StarStormScream | Posted: 8/27/2013 12:26:46 AM | #382
Wow, Groose, lol!

And this, along with Nightmare's sudden drop confirms Morrigan being the only fighting character not directly related to Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat actually worth a darn in these contests.

i could see Mai having some strength. certainly weaker than Morrigan, though.


She could be high end fodder just off of design alone, but I can't imagine her being much stronger. SNK only gets noticed at EVO time. Though Mai should never lose in Mexico, lol. (They're crazy for KoF there)

Though I am kinda curious how Felicia would do as she's essentially Morrigan-lite.
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#388 | StarStormScream | Posted 8/26/2013 9:44:00 PM | message detail | (edited)
Janus5000 posted...
the strongest non-SF/MK fighting game characters are actually Marth and Captain Falcon but you know

Marth & Capt Falcon didn't start out in the fighting genre, so no. I see wut u tried to do :P
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#389 | ZFS | Posted 8/26/2013 9:49:21 PM | message detail
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Bahamut should have been in ages ago.

Back in the 2K3-2K5 days he would have been high midcarder.

Won't be as strong now as Square has fallen off, but would still beat most fodder very easily.


He has the rare benefit of being Old and New Square! Get some of that Old Square boost.
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#390 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/26/2013 9:58:10 PM | message detail
Master Hand vs Yoshimitsu

Who wins?
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#391 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/26/2013 10:01:42 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Kotetsu534 posted...
Mega Man as a series has looked super-strong

With Pikachu/Crono, Pikachu was the solid favorite, but there was ample debate. There was like no debate at all for Zard/Mega Man. Zero's leeching powers are light years beyond Magus'.

If Zard blows that match, it becomes one of the biggest turds of the contest. It would be ridiculous.

Zard has a better shot at losing to Zelda than losing to Mega Man.

In fact I'd say Zelda had a non-trivial chance of beating Zard if DK wasn't there. DK won't do much, but the little he does will affect Zelda more than a Pokemon.


Part of me thinks that Zelda should stand out in that match pic, being the only human character against two animals (and possibly the most "mature" character in the match).
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#392 | ZFS | Posted 8/26/2013 10:05:36 PM | message detail
Unless she gets a Skyward Sword pic! Someone probably submitted one.
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#393 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/26/2013 10:12:48 PM | message detail
In which case she gets to be a little girl against two huge animals.
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#394 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/26/2013 10:15:37 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
In which case she gets to be a little girl against two huge animals.


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Skyward Sword Zelda would be some nice pic sabotage, don't kid yourself
#395 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 8/26/2013 10:18:54 PM | message detail
Zelda already got a SS picture in round 1. She's got a lot of pics to choose from, so it would require another round of Vincent-gate for her to get one again.
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#396 | creativename | Posted 8/26/2013 10:26:06 PM | message detail
Zelda should get an Ocarina of Time pic. Anyone submitting anything else is sabotaging her, consciously or unconsciously! OoT Zelda might not be *that* much stronger than another Zelda, but it would definitely be her most powerful form.

(unless it was just a plain horrid pic, but I think that would be hard to find for OoT Zelda)
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#397 | xp1337 | Posted 8/26/2013 10:27:15 PM | message detail
Personally, I think TP is the best, but OoT v TP either one should be fine.
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#398 | ZFS | Posted 8/26/2013 10:31:22 PM | message detail
Yeah, I prefer TP Zelda, but either OOT or TP would be good. Anything else would be a step down, with SS or WW being the worst.
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#399 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/26/2013 10:33:04 PM | message detail
I wonder how well she would do with a Sheik picture.
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#400 | xp1337 | Posted 8/26/2013 10:33:40 PM | message detail
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I wonder how well she would do with a Sheik picture.

...Uh oh.
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