Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1131

#301 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:19:52 PM | message detail
er...do we ever get a list of how many nominations each character received?
#302 | creativename | Posted 8/26/2013 8:20:32 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Pictures still aren't up. I wonder if Allen is scrambling to make a suitable picture for someone.

...I'm assuming that was intentional. If it was, that's brilliant. I commend you good sir.

Stats topic post of the week fo' sho.

Karma Hunter posted...
Even more than that, how many classic matches do you really get out of the 12 hour system? Can you ever see a Frog/Master Chief again in a 12 hour match? How about a Halo/StarCraft? What if FFX/MM had been a 12 hour match? Half day matches are a blight on the contest and need to go.

I think the first round should always be 12 hour matches, they are mostly mismatches anyway. 2nd round and beyond should be 24 hour though.

Actually I wouldn't mind a 3-way 12 hour match 1st round, with 2nd round onwards then being 1v1 24 hour. This way we get to see lots of new entrants who we might be curious about, and can get back snubs like Jecht/Ken etc. But the waste doesn't then pollute the 2nd round.
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#303 | xp1337 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:21:47 PM | message detail
Korayashi posted...
foxhead84 posted...
xp1337 posted...
Going into the final hour:

Crono at 46.18% on Pikachu
Crono needs Magus to split 76.78% or better to win 1v1.

Come on, Crono, you can use this hour to make those look better!


hmmm no... Crono have a 2065 vote difference with Pika... that's 53,42% of Magus total votes (3875).... So Crono would have won 1v1


Uhh..where do the rest of Magus' votes go?

into the abyss

But yes, you can't just take Pikachu's lead and divide that by Magus's total.

You want (Magus's total + Pikachu's lead) / (2 * Magus's Total)

That gives you the % split Crono needs.
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#304 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:26:25 PM | message detail
Imma take some heat for saying this, but I'm gonna say it anyway. I think there might be a re-run of Zelda 2k4 coming up, except this time it's Pokemon that looks completely imperious for the first couple of rounds and then falls like dominoes one after the other. Cloud and Sonic are a big step up from Dante and suited, fallen Vincent. Sora gets the lucky bracket placement this time around. Mega Man as a series has looked super-strong, and even if Missingno takes care of Squall beating Mario with Red in the poll is surely beyond it.
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#305 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:26:35 PM | message detail
also, how did Board 8 control the nomination process more this time around

There were fewer overall nominations which meant board 8 had more pull, had SBAllen put a banner on the front page maybe more people would have nominated
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#306 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:28:30 PM | message detail
Well the seeds are obviously rigged to fit themes, so I don't know if we can take them very seriously. Regardless you can't really put the genie back into the bottle, so to speak. The solution to Aeris making the Sweet Sixteen two years straight and Tifa nearly beating Samus shouldn't have been them missing the bracket in the immediately following years. Success shouldn't be punished either. I'd rather simply limit us to a traditional 64 character bracket and have nominations weed out the less popular characters naturally.

FFVII characters missed the bracket because they do not get enough nominations due to the split, not because the admin did not want too many characters from the same game(minus 2004)
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#307 | creativename | Posted 8/26/2013 8:28:35 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Final Fantasy has characters in Division 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 finals (probably, unless Squall loses)
guys, Final Fantasy has too many characters in these contests

Except those are from different games. Auron and Rydia do not appear in the same game. That these otherwise unrelated games are called "Final Fantasy" matters little, it would be like if SMB and Zelda were titled "Nintendo I, II, III etc.". It's meaningless.

Every Pokemon who actually matters is from RBY.

Karma Hunter posted...
Success shouldn't be punished either. I'd rather simply limit us to a traditional 64 character bracket and have nominations weed out the less popular characters naturally.

I agree with this. Back in the day, we *should* have gotten more FF7 characters rather than so much of the random fodder we had. And we should get some more good Pokemon in (e.g. Blastoise, who's probably stronger than Squirtle - why did Squirtle make it again?)

The main thing is that any non-RBY Pokemon should be stamped out like the plague. They are unworthy and just clutter the bracket, adding to PokeHATE.

UItimaterializer posted...
People who complain about Pokémon are as bad as people who complain about LoL.

BREAKING NEWS, popular characters do well in popularity contests, I mean holy f*** this is just the hardest thing ever to figure out.

...except Draven isn't popular. Even his supposed "ralliers" probably care very little about him, he's just a LoL proxy. A character who is not popular, winning a popularity contest, is why everyone here has lost so much interest. If Draven was legit popular you'd hear less complaints. Pokemon has as many supporters in this topic as haters, because Pokemon are actually *gasp* popular.
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#308 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/26/2013 8:29:55 PM | message detail
UItimaterializer posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Well the seeds are obviously rigged to fit themes, so I don't know if we can take them very seriously. Regardless you can't really put the genie back into the bottle, so to speak. The solution to Aeris making the Sweet Sixteen two years straight and Tifa nearly beating Samus shouldn't have been them missing the bracket in the immediately following years. Success shouldn't be punished either. I'd rather simply limit us to a traditional 64 character bracket and have nominations weed out the less popular characters naturally.


I agree with this. Allen really needs to drop the more-is-better idea. 128 characters/games is already too much, 243 is just dumb.


What we really need is a 1v1 contest with 24-hour matches.
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#309 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2013 8:33:29 PM | message detail
It would be almost unfathomable if Pokemon were shut out of the Final Nine like Zelda was shut out in 2004. Going down the setups...

Mario/Squall/Red - Okay, this one is pretty much a done deal... assuming this doesn't turn into some Mario/Bowser v Trainers proxy or similar. Even worse for Red if Missingno makes it.
Pikachu/Sora/Blue - Yeah, Pokemon should get shut out here, unless Sora has completely fallen off a cliff and then some or Nathan Drake pulls a ridiculous miracle out of his ass.
Cloud/Squirtle/Leon - Cloud should beat Squirtle... I guess, especially since it's 24 hours. The frenzy to kill FF7 could make something ridiculous happen though.
Sonic/Mewtwo/Bowser - Maybe Bowser hurts Mewtwo more than Sonic, but I'm skeptical. I'm more convinced of the opposite, and thus Sonic is in real danger of getting upset.
Mega Man/Zero/Charizard - Impossible for Charizard to get shut out here, damn near a lock unless Rikku can somehow sneak in.

It's not impossible for Pokemon to get shut out of the Final 9 but they would have to run the table in choking opportunities.
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#310 | im317 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:34:22 PM | message detail
would having multiple matches going on at the same time hurt the contest? if not it would be a good way to have more characters but not take forever. it could be limited to just the first round
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#311 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:34:24 PM | message detail
The main thing is that any non-RBY Pokemon should be stamped out like the plague. They are unworthy and just clutter the bracket, adding to PokeHATE.

I don't see too many more Pokemon getting tested out besides a flavour of the contest type character.

N, Lugia, Jigglypuff and Magikarp are likely not going to return and Missingno and Blue will probably struggle to return unless the board helps them out.
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#312 | creativename | Posted 8/26/2013 8:35:47 PM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
Mega Man as a series has looked super-strong

With Pikachu/Crono, Pikachu was the solid favorite, but there was ample debate. There was like no debate at all for Zard/Mega Man. Zero's leeching powers are light years beyond Magus'.

If Zard blows that match, it becomes one of the biggest turds of the contest. It would be ridiculous.

Zard has a better shot at losing to Zelda than losing to Mega Man.

In fact I'd say Zelda had a non-trivial chance of beating Zard if DK wasn't there. DK won't do much, but the little he does will affect Zelda more than a Pokemon.
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#313 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 8/26/2013 8:38:36 PM | message detail
I still like 12-hour matches for the first round. Not averse to them in the second either, especially in a 1v1 setting. I think 128 entrants is about the right size. 243 is fine once but I don't especially want to see Groose or Kaim Aroganar participate in successive contests.
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#314 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:47:11 PM | message detail | (edited)
243 kind of ruined new characters for a 128 bracket, honestly I would not be surprised if the next contest is a 128 character battle and less than 10% are new characters.

Not that it would be a totally bad thing
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#315 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:49:11 PM | message detail
Considering if he had 76.8% of Magus' votes he'd win, I'd say it's pretty safe to assume Crono beats Pikachu 1v1.

Awful Pokemon-biased bracket-making strikes again!

RIP Fox.
RIP Crono.

Let's go Draven!
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#316 | im317 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:51:00 PM | message detail
raginbull911 posted...
Considering if he had 76.8% of Magus' votes he'd win, I'd say it's pretty safe to assume Crono beats Pikachu 1v1.

Awful Pokemon-biased bracket-making strikes again!

RIP Fox.
RIP Crono.

Let's go Draven!


did you factor in the 23.2% of Magus' votes that would go to Pickachu?
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#317 | spooky96 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:51:05 PM | message detail
raginbull911 posted...
Considering if he had 76.8% of Magus' votes he'd win, I'd say it's pretty safe to assume Crono beats Pikachu 1v1.

Awful Pokemon-biased bracket-making strikes again!

RIP Fox.
RIP Crono.

Let's go Draven!


But this ultimately costed Pokemon to lose to Sora. I'm confident that Pikachu beats Sora 1v1.

Of course assuming Blue wins his match.
#318 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2013 8:51:17 PM | message detail
We can still get in new worthwhile characters, we just need to be smart about it.

Blastoise (instead of Squirtle because Blastoise is the best)
Liara or Tali
Grey Fox
MILLIONS of new LoL characters

it'll be FINE
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#319 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:54:39 PM | message detail
im317 posted...
raginbull911 posted...
Considering if he had 76.8% of Magus' votes he'd win, I'd say it's pretty safe to assume Crono beats Pikachu 1v1.

Awful Pokemon-biased bracket-making strikes again!

RIP Fox.
RIP Crono.

Let's go Draven!


did you factor in the 23.2% of Magus' votes that would go to Pickachu?

Uh, yeah, that's the right number, I got it too >_>
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#320 | xp1337 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:54:55 PM | message detail
im317 posted...
raginbull911 posted...
Considering if he had 76.8% of Magus' votes he'd win, I'd say it's pretty safe to assume Crono beats Pikachu 1v1.

Awful Pokemon-biased bracket-making strikes again!

RIP Fox.
RIP Crono.

Let's go Draven!


did you factor in the 23.2% of Magus' votes that would go to Pickachu?

Right now Crono needs 76.62% or better right now. I was waiting for the end of the match for FINAL STATS but since it's come up...
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#321 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/26/2013 8:55:14 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
We can still get in new worthwhile characters, we just need to be smart about it.

Blastoise (instead of Squirtle because Blastoise is the best)
Liara or Tali
Grey Fox
MILLIONS of new LoL characters

it'll be FINE


Flooding the bracket with LoL characters may not work that well.They may get sick of it if they have to do daily rallies.
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#322 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/26/2013 8:55:48 PM | message detail
What about the Magus voters that wouldn't have bothered voting if Magus wasn't in the poll? What about them!
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#323 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:56:16 PM | message detail
im317 posted...
raginbull911 posted...
Considering if he had 76.8% of Magus' votes he'd win, I'd say it's pretty safe to assume Crono beats Pikachu 1v1.

Awful Pokemon-biased bracket-making strikes again!

RIP Fox.
RIP Crono.

Let's go Draven!


did you factor in the 23.2% of Magus' votes that would go to Pickachu?


Of course I did. At the time of my post, Crono needed 76.8% of Magus's votes to be 50%+1 vote against Pikachu.

In Fox's case, he's 50%+1 against Blue with 76.2% of Wolf's vote.

Even the safest of prognosticators would say that both matches are a virtual tie at worst. Realistically, Crono and Fox would have beaten their Pokemon counterparts 1v1.
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#324 | Korayashi | Posted 8/26/2013 8:56:41 PM | message detail
Four minutes to save those experts and see the light of Gilgamesh > Sora.
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#325 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:58:00 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
We can still get in new worthwhile characters, we just need to be smart about it.

Blastoise (instead of Squirtle because Blastoise is the best)
Liara or Tali
Grey Fox
MILLIONS of new LoL characters

it'll be FINE


You forgot Mudkip.
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#326 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 8:58:16 PM | message detail
2 minutes until Sora SFF Gilgamesh below Yoshimitsu
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#327 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/26/2013 8:58:25 PM | message detail
#328 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2013 8:58:27 PM | message detail
Mudkip isn't new. He's a contest veteran.
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#329 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/26/2013 8:58:36 PM | message detail
Next contest will be best LoL character contest
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#330 | tennisboy213 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:00:14 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted


Sora
37.5%
3 Votes

Gilgamesh
25%
2 Votes

Yoshimitsu
37.5%
3 Votes
Your Pick
Total Votes: 8
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#331 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/26/2013 9:00:29 PM | message detail
Sora
33.33%
2 Votes

Gilgamesh
33.33%
2 Votes

Yoshimitsu
33.33%
2 Votes

Awesome.
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#332 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:00:29 PM | message detail
Where are you Riku?


Sora
44.44%
4 Votes

Gilgamesh
22.22%
2 Votes

Yoshimitsu
33.33%
3 Votes
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#333 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2013 9:00:45 PM | message detail
Holy crap and Sora has a terrible board vote

how weak are these guys
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#334 | raytan7585 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:00:46 PM | message detail
Sora
45%
9 Votes

Gilgamesh
40%
8 Votes
Your Pick

Yoshimitsu
15%
3 Votes

Total Votes: 20
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#335 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/26/2013 9:01:09 PM | message detail
Dear god, Yoshimitsu.
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#336 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:01:15 PM | message detail
lol Groose
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#337 | Korayashi | Posted 8/26/2013 9:01:31 PM | message detail
Noo, Gilgamesh isn't arising. Curse you Gilgamesh!
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#338 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/26/2013 9:01:32 PM | message detail
GROOOOOOOOOOOOSE
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#339 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/26/2013 9:01:33 PM | message detail
Poor Yoshimitsu. Deserves better.
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#340 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/26/2013 9:01:52 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted


Sora
54.03%
161 Votes
Your Pick

Gilgamesh
30.54%
91 Votes

Yoshimitsu
15.44%
46 Votes
Total Votes: 298
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#341 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2013 9:02:08 PM | message detail
I can't believe you guys talked me into believing anyone cared about Groose
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#342 | tgs2 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:02:12 PM | message detail
Looks like Yoshimitsu was the weakest round 2 entrant, not Tharja.
#343 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/26/2013 9:02:13 PM | message detail
#344 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/26/2013 9:02:30 PM | message detail
THE GROOSE IS TANNER TIER
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#345 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:02:36 PM | message detail
The Groose was not loose.
#346 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/26/2013 9:02:49 PM | message detail
Boooo
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#347 | Sorozone | Posted 8/26/2013 9:02:53 PM | message detail
The legend of Groose.
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#348 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/26/2013 9:03:15 PM | message detail
Also Groose being worse than Tingle the **** is wrong with this world
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#349 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/26/2013 9:03:19 PM | message detail
SBAllen calls the Pikachu match correctly.

He knew exactly what he was doing to Crono!
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#350 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2013 9:03:21 PM | message detail
Looks like Yoshimitsu was the weakest round 2 entrant, not Tharja.

Still early to say, G&W could also be weaker too.
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