Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1131

#451 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/27/2013 5:16:25 AM | message detail
Then you apparently never paid attention to anything I posted in the past ten years.
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#452 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/27/2013 5:20:09 AM | message detail
I thought you usually try to contribute seriously though!
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#453 | Achromatic | Posted 8/27/2013 5:20:11 AM | message detail
In the past couple of weeks I feel like JR when he was talking about Stone Cold during the invasion angle when I think about Wylvane.

"It's the old Wylvane! He's walking, he's talking, and he's about to kick some ass!"

This is the best Wylvane has been in ages. I was going to comment on it yesterday but instead took some sleeping pills and drowned my sorrows.
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#454 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/27/2013 5:21:10 AM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
In the past couple of weeks I feel like JR when he was talking about Stone Cold during the invasion angle when I think about Wylvane.

"It's the old Wylvane! He's walking, he's talking, and he's about to kick some ass!"

This is the best Wylvane has been in ages. I was going to comment on it yesterday but instead took some sleeping pills and drowned my sorrows.


I think this is the worst comparison I have ever seen in my life. Go take more sleeping pills.

In fact, lend me some.
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#455 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2013 5:21:46 AM | message detail
Wylvane's biggest contribution is setting off the string of suicides after Squall/Luigi.
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#456 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/27/2013 5:23:32 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Wylvane's biggest contribution is setting off the string of suicides after Squall/Luigi.


Agreed. That was an amazing night.
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#457 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/27/2013 5:29:59 AM | message detail
I would do a Pokemon rally with Wylvane topic or without
I mean really,if you are a Pokemon fan and doesn't believe a Pokemon rally can work after what Draven pulled,there must be something wrong with you
#458 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/27/2013 5:35:51 AM | message detail | (edited)
Nanis23 posted...
I would do a Pokemon rally with Wylvane topic or without
I mean really,if you are a Pokemon fan and doesn't believe a Pokemon rally can work after what Draven pulled,there must be something wrong with you


Any rally can work, theoretically.

It's just that Draven has a massive advantage right now. They got 50k people in 12 hours and made it look easy. Where can you find 50k people (even more, since it's a 24h match) to vote for pokemon/Link/whatever?

IMO the best bet would be to rally in multiple places at the same time. But that would require a coordinated effort. Can board 8 pull it off?
#459 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/27/2013 5:36:25 AM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
I thought you usually try to contribute seriously though!


Oh, I actually do pretty often. It's just that I like seeing chaos on the board, too. Things can get way too insular here at times.
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#460 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/27/2013 6:25:54 AM | message detail
On something discussed earlier, a 64-game bracket sounds pretty constricting:.

Like, uh:

6 Mario games: Mario 1, Mario 3, Mario World, Mario 64, Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario
2 Mario Kart games: Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64
7 Zelda games: Zelda 1, LttP, OoT, MM, WW TP, SS
4 Pokemon games: RBY, GSC, BW, X/Y
2 Metroid games: Super Metroid, Metroid Prime
2 Smash games: Melee, Brawl
Goldeneye
Earthbound (Damnit Earthbound fans)
Tetris
(26 Nintendo)

6 Final Fantasy games: VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XIII
2 Kingdom Hearts games
Chrono Trigger
Super Mario RPG
(10 Square)

4 Metal Gear Solid games
4 Valve games: Half-Life 2, Portal, Portal 2, Team Fortress 2
3 Bethesda games: Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3
3 Blizzard games: Starcraft, World of Warcraft, Diablo II
2 Bioware games: Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2
Resident Evil 4
Shadow of the Colossus
Assassin's Creed II
God of War
Uncharted 2
Halo
League of Legends (Urgh.)
Tales of Symphonia
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Street Fighter II (in a bracket this stacked, though? LOST.)
Mega Man X
Sonic the Hedgehog II

That's already 64 games and I left out a lot of recent stuff, including all of GOTY 2012. Also not included were FFI, FFIV, FFXII, FFT, Paper Mario TTYD, Pokemon RSE and DPP, Link's Awakening, the entire Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty series, KOTOR, Golden Sun...And you just know board 8 is going to do stuff like get Phoenix Wright and Persona games in.

We'd have to be prepared for a huge number of snubs. Definitely seeing the problem with 12 hour matches but it's also pretty hard to look at all that and say "let the chips fall where they may." Maybe it would be for the best but yeah.

(AND I SWEAR TO GOD IF WE SEE MONKEY ISLAND AGAIN IN A 64 GAME BRACKET)
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#461 | WolfActual | Posted 8/27/2013 6:55:01 AM | message detail
#462 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2013 6:57:40 AM | message detail
Match XCIX: (25) Mr. Game & Watch vs. (4) Nathan Drake vs. (12) Pokemon Trainer Blue

Previous Round

Mr. Game & Watch – 39.74%
Lee Everett – 37.12%
Meat Boy – 23.14%

Nathan Drake – 41.80%
Pac-Man – 38.80%
Steve – 19.40%

Pokemon Trainer Blue – 48.16%
Fox McCloud – 44.09%
Wolf O’Donnell – 7.75%

Analysis

I literally do not have a single one of these characters in my bracket for the second round. Overall this match is quite simple to predict. Blue, like almost all Pokemon characters impressed by easily winning over Fox and making a strong case that he would have even won even if Wolf was not in the poll. While he does not rank among the top of Pokemon he did show to be a decent mid-carder which is more than enough to win this match.

It has taken three major releases, but Nathan Drake is now officially over the fodder line. While his boost from Uncharted 3 was nowhere near the amount he got from Uncharted 2 it was enough to finish over Pac-Man. A lot of people feel that Pac-Man should be the fodder line and while he does rank around there this was almost a perfect match for him as he avoided nostalgic opponents. Therefore I would not be surprised if Nathan Drake looked impressive by comparison.

While Mr. Game & Watch was able to use his association with Super Smash Bros. to win the match he does not have that luxury. For one thing his opponents are a lot more well-known and second we have a Nintendo character in this poll and I feel the SFF is going to be massive. I know Pokemon tend not to SFF there other Nintendo opponents, but I feel this could be an exception to the rule.

This should be a simple match where no one is close to upsetting the other. One thing that might be interesting is to see if Game & Watch drops below 10% due to SFF and the expected weakness of his three-pack. Some people feel Blue may have a chance against Pikachu next round, I do not see it happening and if it does he would have to destroy this poll.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Fox McCloud > Pac-Man and Lee Everett

charmander6000’s Prediction: Pokemon Trainer Blue – 48.65%, Nathan Drake – 37.56%, Mr. Game & Watch – 13.79%
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#463 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2013 8:38:46 AM | message detail
Mr. Game & Watch shouldn't be SFFd by someone with no SSB association.
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#464 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2013 8:41:44 AM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
On something discussed earlier, a 64-game bracket sounds pretty constricting:.

Like, uh:

6 Mario games: Mario 1, Mario 3, Mario World, Mario 64, Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario
2 Mario Kart games: Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64
7 Zelda games: Zelda 1, LttP, OoT, MM, WW TP, SS
4 Pokemon games: RBY, GSC, BW, X/Y
2 Metroid games: Super Metroid, Metroid Prime
2 Smash games: Melee, Brawl
Goldeneye
Earthbound (Damnit Earthbound fans)
Tetris
(26 Nintendo)

6 Final Fantasy games: VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XIII
2 Kingdom Hearts games
Chrono Trigger
Super Mario RPG
(10 Square)

4 Metal Gear Solid games
4 Valve games: Half-Life 2, Portal, Portal 2, Team Fortress 2
3 Bethesda games: Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3
3 Blizzard games: Starcraft, World of Warcraft, Diablo II
2 Bioware games: Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2
Resident Evil 4
Shadow of the Colossus
Assassin's Creed II
God of War
Uncharted 2
Halo
League of Legends (Urgh.)
Tales of Symphonia
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Street Fighter II (in a bracket this stacked, though? LOST.)
Mega Man X
Sonic the Hedgehog II

That's already 64 games and I left out a lot of recent stuff, including all of GOTY 2012. Also not included were FFI, FFIV, FFXII, FFT, Paper Mario TTYD, Pokemon RSE and DPP, Link's Awakening, the entire Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty series, KOTOR, Golden Sun...And you just know board 8 is going to do stuff like get Phoenix Wright and Persona games in.

We'd have to be prepared for a huge number of snubs. Definitely seeing the problem with 12 hour matches but it's also pretty hard to look at all that and say "let the chips fall where they may." Maybe it would be for the best but yeah.

(AND I SWEAR TO GOD IF WE SEE MONKEY ISLAND AGAIN IN A 64 GAME BRACKET)


IIRC the entire point of 12-hour matches is to prevent a contest from taking too long. But honestly, I think that's stupid, seeing how contest season in the past used to bring lots of traffic to this site.

128 entrant bracket, 24-hour matches start in Round 3/4/5. Let's do it.
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#465 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2013 8:42:29 AM | message detail
Ultimaphazon posted...
Draven would still 65-35 Link, 24 hour match, or not.


He's likely to do better!
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#466 | tennisboy213 | Posted 8/27/2013 8:56:16 AM | message detail
#467 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2013 8:56:55 AM | message detail
Quite impressed with Gilgamesh, unless Sora really dropped he's above the fodder line
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#468 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2013 8:58:32 AM | message detail
Makes sense.

Why the hell was Booker the Guru favorite pre-contest? I'm 100% sure I initially picked Gilgamesh and was convinced by the board to switch.
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#469 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/27/2013 8:59:24 AM | message detail
Wow there is zero hype for this match
Go blue board vote!
#470 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2013 8:59:47 AM | message detail
I personally thought Gilgamesh was very weak, plus Bioshock had decent strength
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#471 | tennisboy213 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:00:14 AM | message detail
Vote Accepted


Mr. Game & Watch
0%
0 Votes

Nathan Drake
0%
0 Votes

Pokemon Trainer Blue
100%
6 Votes
Your Pick
Total Votes: 6
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#472 | raytan7585 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:00:29 AM | message detail
Mr. Game & Watch
0%
0 Votes

Nathan Drake
9.09%
1 Votes

Pokemon Trainer Blue
90.91%
10 Votes
Your Pick

Total Votes: 11
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#473 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:00:29 AM | message detail
2nd vote for Drake.
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#474 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:00:31 AM | message detail
Mr. Game & Watch
12.5%
2 Votes
Nathan Drake
6.25%
1 Votes
Pokemon Trainer Blue
81.25%
13 Votes


oh god why
#475 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:00:35 AM | message detail
All hail the Poke overlords


Mr. Game & Watch
8.33%
1 Votes

Nathan Drake
8.33%
1 Votes

Pokemon Trainer Blue
83.33%
10 Votes
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Points: 98/129 Today's Picks: Sora and Fox McCloud
#476 | paulg235 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:00:36 AM | message detail
Vote Accepted
Mr. Game & Watch
11.11%
2 Votes
Nathan Drake
11.11%
2 Votes
Pokemon Trainer Blue
77.78%
14 Votes
Your Pick
Total Votes: 18
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#477 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:00:36 AM | message detail
Mr. Game & Watch
18.75%
9 Votes

Nathan Drake
22.92%
11 Votes

Pokemon Trainer Blue
58.33%
28 Votes
Your Pick

Smell ya later, Drake!
#478 | vcharon | Posted 8/27/2013 9:01:07 AM | message detail
Yay, more Pokemon.
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#479 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:01:19 AM | message detail
I still don't understand how the board craps all over Draven for having no character, and then spam votes for anything to do with Pokemon.. Such hypocrisy.

Vote for Drake everyone!
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#480 | Scarlettail | Posted 8/27/2013 9:01:31 AM | message detail
Blue's da man.
#481 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:01:47 AM | message detail
I still don't understand how the board craps all over Draven for having no character, and then spam votes for anything to do with Pokemon.. Such hypocrisy.

It's okay if it's a character I like

>_>
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#482 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/27/2013 9:01:48 AM | message detail
Drake isn't doing as badly as I thought he might with Pokemon's board vote...
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#483 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:01:58 AM | message detail
Wasn't there another guy that posted predictions?Kotetsu I think?Where is he?
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#484 | Gooper Blooper | Posted 8/27/2013 9:02:15 AM | message detail
Drake's doing pretty well here.
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#485 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/27/2013 9:03:43 AM | message detail | (edited)
raginbull911 posted...
I still don't understand how the board craps all over Draven for having no character


Nobody does this

I mean if you'd said Link, you might have had a point, but I think the board has even matured past "you must vote for the characters that actually have 'character', not your childhood favourites!" stuff by now.
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#486 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:02:25 AM | message detail
After that initial surge Drake seems to recover nicely
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#487 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 8/27/2013 9:02:34 AM | message detail
Nice Drake. Pleasant surprise
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#488 | 2Dover3D | Posted 8/27/2013 9:02:42 AM | message detail
#489 | vcharon | Posted 8/27/2013 9:02:46 AM | message detail
Drake's really putting up a fight against the board vote here, interesting.
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#490 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2013 9:03:41 AM | message detail
Congratulations Drake, for a respectable loss to an actually strong character.
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#491 | tgs2 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:04:09 AM | message detail
I think Drake has bracket voting which is why Blue isn't blowing him away with the board vote.
#492 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/27/2013 9:04:19 AM | message detail
Blue's still gaining enough that Drake has no chance.
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#493 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/27/2013 9:05:05 AM | message detail
Nice start, Nate.

Hesitant to call this one just yet. How much of Blue's vote is down to the board?
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#494 | 2Dover3D | Posted 8/27/2013 9:05:25 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Blue's still gaining enough that Drake has no chance.


You think? Pokemons crazy board vote vs a Western dudes board vote should be pretty damn lopsided. I'm not calling this for a few updates at least.
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#495 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:05:50 AM | message detail
Yeah, 13% is too massive a gap to overcome short of literal joke trends.
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#496 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:05:52 AM | message detail
I think Drake has bracket voting which is why Blue isn't blowing him away with the board vote.

I think Blue has more brackets than Nathan

If anything I wouldn't be surprised if the board has become a bit anti-Pokemon

We've come full circle
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#497 | vcharon | Posted 8/27/2013 9:06:56 AM | message detail
Board's still pro, obviously since Pokemon almost always drops percentage in the subsequent updates. The anti-Pokemon stuff is just a little louder these days.
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#498 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:06:58 AM | message detail
Pretty sure we crap on Draven because hardly any of us know who the heck he is. When stuck with the native voter base of this site, without rallies, he is way weaker than Jak. When stuck with the native voter base of this site, without rallies, Pokemon characters are really strong.
#499 | 2Dover3D | Posted 8/27/2013 9:07:07 AM | message detail
nintendogirl2 posted...
Yeah, 13% is too massive a gap to overcome short of literal joke trends.


Pokemon pretty much has joke vote trends these days
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#500 | raytan7585 | Posted 8/27/2013 9:07:08 AM | message detail
smell ya later
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