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Also, 2002 says that Crono beats Cloud by about 100 votes!
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On a loosely related note, Pokemon has got to be the most dronish fanbase ever. There are, like, 20 Pokemon stronger than the 4th strongest Zelda character.
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There are 649 Pokemon and I'd wager that upwards of 600 are fodder or worse.
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There probably are less than 50 non-fodder characters from all other Nintendo series put together.
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And far fewer than 649 who have as much exposure as the Pokemon.
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seriously yo just change your name to PokemonFan and get it over with
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Pokemon is my favorite video game franchise
And because in this contests,characters are more a representation of the series than they are "characters" I don't see any reason to not vote for all of them
We all know about this,Link doesn't always win because he is the best character...he wins because he represents the most popular video game series in the site

And..again,Pokemon is the most populer series to not have a member in the Noble Nine because it has no "main character"
Pikachu is pretty much the "mascot" but he can get anti-voted by Pokemon fans as well

Also Gordon's now closer to Shadow than he is to Leon.
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LeonhartFour posted...

seriously yo just change your name to PokemonFan and get it over with

He is the gallant Pokemon White Knight.

Whenever scoundrels choose to soil the name of Pokemon, he bravely rides out to dispatch the vermin.
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Nanis23 posted...

Pokemon is my favorite video game franchise
And because in this contests,characters are more a representation of the series than they are "characters" I don't see any reason to not vote for all of them
We all know about this,Link doesn't always win because he is the best character...he wins because he represents the most popular video game series in the site

And..again,Pokemon is the most populer series to not have a member in the Noble Nine because it has no "main character"
Pikachu is pretty much the "mascot" but he can get anti-voted by Pokemon fans as well

Pretty much, yeah. The thing is that I'm sure most people here fully understand why a relatively large number of Pokemon are popular. They're just unhappy about it and will continue to be surly until they start getting the matches right. Mended brackets mean mended hearts.
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ChenKenichiFan posted...

They're just unhappy about it and will continue to be surly until they start getting the matches right. Mended brackets mean mended hearts.

Alas poor KH, every Pokemon match he gets right seems to rend his heart all the more.

Verily you need to bring him drink and wenches to quench his sadness.
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hey man I've got a reputation to live up to as the most venomously anti-Pokemon dude around these parts

I can't disappoint people's expectations of me
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I wonder what you guys prefer
A 1 Noble-Nine level Pokemon that can defeat Megaman,Sonic Crono with ease,and be a debateable match with Samus 1vs1 along with a few "mid tier" Pokemon
Or just a 3-4 "high tier" Pokemon that can beat the likes of Dante and only squeeze by Mega Man because he is going to get leeched
And no,Squirtle will not beat Cloud

I might join the anti-Pokemon fandom if it happens (because it would totally not make sense) or if Sora doesn't beat Blue/Pikachu (because that would also be stupid)

Yoblazer, I don't even remember what I picked in my bracket. I think my mind is stuck somewhere in 2009 contest-wise. I can't remember what match was held 3 days ago but if you say the number 34.93 I know that's what Magus got on Link in 2003.

I'm just calling it as I see it. Measured by strength differencial, Pokemon is the most dronish fanbase, and Zelda is pretty much the least.
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I like how Zelda fans are starting to use Pokemon as a convenient scapegoat for DroneFAQs
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I'd argue FF7 is the most dronish at its peak.

Aeris (45+ plus on Sonic) was their weakest right. I know she declined but yeah...!
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Zelda fans shouldn't need a scapegoat. We should make our stand on the truth: Zelda is one of the LEAST dronish fanbases on GameFAQs.
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That was just FFVII being at the peak of its powers more than anything else. Remember that Aerith lost to a Sonic that Cloud doubled. That's a pretty wide range.
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red sox 777 posted...

Zelda fans shouldn't need a scapegoat. We should make our stand on the truth: Zelda is one of the LEAST dronish fanbases on GameFAQs.

When Zelda fans don't feel the need to rally whenever they're in danger of not winning a contest, you let me know!
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When Zelda fans don't feel the need to rally whenever they're in danger of not winning a contest, you let me know!

That's not being a drone. That's legitimate love for our Link. Notice such support is always given out to Link and NEVER to Ganondorf, Zelda, or any other character.

Now, if I want Link to win in one year I want him to win every year. No reason my preferences should change from year to year.
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For them, it's being drones. For you, it's having legitimate love.

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red sox 777 posted...

I'm just calling it as I see it. Measured by strength differencial, Pokemon is the most dronish fanbase, and Zelda is pretty much the least.

The Zelda fanbase isn't dronish in that it's characters are the same tier of strength, obviously there's a huuuge gap between Link and everybody else.

They're dronish in that something Zelda must always win.

Remember that from the 4-way best game ever contest, with RBY/GSC LFF removed, Majora's Mask should have lost to GSC 55-45. Only a year later it beat GSC 55-45 and won the GOTD contest.

If Ocarina of Time was in that contest, no way does MM boost such an incredible amount in a single year. That was all Zelda proxy strength. MM's strength wasn't "hidden" in the 4-way - it simply boosted in GOTD because it was Zelda, and Zelda *must* win.

Achromatic posted...

I'd argue FF7 is the most dronish at its peak.

Aeris (45+ plus on Sonic) was their weakest right. I know she declined but yeah...!

I wouldn't call FF7 dronish at it's peak, just uber-charged. Aeris got 45% on a Sonic that Cloud doubled. That's actually very high variance.

LeonhartFour posted...

That was just FFVII being at the peak of its powers more than anything else. Remember that Aerith lost to a Sonic that Cloud doubled. That's a pretty wide range.

...dmanit Leon.
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But the whole point of drones is that they are voting for characters they don't really like, just because the character is from the series. But that's not the case. They're ONLY voting for Link.
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red sox 777 posted...

But the whole point of drones is that they are voting for characters they don't really like, just because the character is from the series. But that's not the case. They're ONLY voting for Link.

Well, if Squirtle only does as well as Lugia next round, you'll have a case; otherwise this is a self-defeating argument...!
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If Ocarina of Time was in that contest, no way does MM boost such an incredible amount in a single year. That was all Zelda proxy strength. MM's strength wasn't "hidden" in the 4-way - it simply boosted in GOTD because it was Zelda, and Zelda *must* win.

And yet, GOTD MM, for all the boost it may have gotten, based on its matches with FFX and Brawl, still ended up being worth about as much on OOT as.........Chrono Cross is worth on Chrono Trigger.
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red sox 777 posted...

But the whole point of drones is that they are voting for characters they don't really like, just because the character is from the series. But that's not the case. They're ONLY voting for Link.

Majora's Mask winning GOTD is pretty much indefensible though.

Majora's Mask - Game of the Decade?! I mean seriously now.

If it had at least shown strength in the previous year, that would be something. It would show MM had real strength, all on it's own, and it's win was legit and earned. Instead it was not strong at all and would have gotten handled easily by GSC in a 1v1 that year. Then a year later it boosts massively, for no explainable reason other than Zelda proxy.

That's probably the most dronish behavior we've ever seen. Even worse than Pokemon.
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Well, if Squirtle only does as well as Lugia next round, you'll have a case; otherwise this is a self-defeating argument...!

Squirtle will do better but not that much better.

Well, Cloud better do that. If he lets Squirtle get too close, there will be hardly any joy left when Crono pulls off the upset for which I have waited for 8 years.
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red sox 777 posted...

If Ocarina of Time was in that contest, no way does MM boost such an incredible amount in a single year. That was all Zelda proxy strength. MM's strength wasn't "hidden" in the 4-way - it simply boosted in GOTD because it was Zelda, and Zelda *must* win.

And yet, GOTD MM, for all the boost it may have gotten, based on its matches with FFX and Brawl, still ended up being worth about as much on OOT as.........Chrono Cross is worth on Chrono Trigger.

I don't really see how the relevance here...MM boosted as much as it needed to. If it needed a bigger boost, do you really think it wouldn't have gotten it? It already boosted a huge amount from it's strength just one year prior. For literally no reason.

Once Twilight Princess lost, no way was MM losing that contest.
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Majora's Mask - Game of the Decade?! I mean seriously now.

If it had at least shown strength in the previous year, that would be something. It would show MM had real strength, all on it's own, and it's win was legit and earned. Instead it was not strong at all and would have gotten handled easily by GSC in a 1v1 that year. Then a year later it boosts massively, for no explainable reason other than Zelda proxy.

I think that contest was basically the voters' way of saying that the 90s >>> the 00s. Majora's Mask is a 90s game that happened to come out just after the calendar switched to the new year. The site said that no games from the 00s were worthy to win a contest. And rightly so, when there are something like 10 games from the 90s that could beat any of them.

Also, I'd dispute that the difference between contests was all that big. Lots of SFF to throw around in both years when comparing MM and GSC.
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I don't really see how the relevance here...MM boosted as much as it needed to. If it needed a bigger boost, do you really think it wouldn't have gotten it? It already boosted a huge amount from it's strength just one year prior. For literally no reason.

Once Twilight Princess lost, no way was MM losing that contest.

It beat FFX by just over 200 votes. MM could have lost, and was very close to losing. You could even argue that it would have lost if not for some minor rallying on the afternoon of the match. If SSBM had beaten SSBB, there's also a strong possibility MM would have lost to FFX (because MM was viewed as the best remaining shot to take out Brawl).
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Also, are you basing the Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross ratio to OoT/MM thing on Majora's Mask/Chrono Cross? (I can't recall any other matches with Chrono Cross, though I might be forgetting)

I wouldn't take that at face value, because Majora's Mask was not only likely non-linear but boosted significantly through the rounds.

red sox 777 posted...

Also, I'd dispute that the difference between contests was all that big. Lots of SFF to throw around in both years when comparing MM and GSC.

I've done the analysis, it's pretty simple actually. There's really not much work to do. GSC and RBY showed 10 points of LFF when in the same match. Adjusting for that, in a 1v1 it should have lost to GSC 55-45. instead it won 55-45. That's a huge turnaround in the space of a year for no logical reason other than Zelda proxy boost.

red sox 777 posted...

It beat FFX by just over 200 votes. MM could have lost, and was very close to losing. You could even argue that it would have lost if not for some minor rallying on the afternoon of the match.

Final Fantasy outrallying Zelda? That's something I'd like to see!! The end of days would be nigh if that happened.

If SSBM had beaten SSBB, there's also a strong possibility MM would have lost to FFX (because MM was viewed as the best remaining shot to take out Brawl).

Now this point I do think might be valid.

I still don't think MM was going to lose to FFX regardless of what happened with Melee/Brawl though - Zelda is still tiered above everything else Nintendo, and yes I'd even include Melee in that group. I mean Meele did lose to Brawl (an anti-voted Brawl at that) - it wasn't some invincible force.

And considering how close MM and FFX were, I just find it hard to picture MM losing there. FFX would have to be a clear step above MM to win.

Which in a neutral "best game ever" setting FFX probably is a clear step above MM - again, drones. The previous year FFX would have handled MM with absolute *ease*. Because Ocarina was in that bracket and Zelda had no need to rally behind anything else. Instead FFX lost to MM, a game that - in a non-drone setting - it was much stronger than.

FFX was even stronger than GSC, and as I mentioned GSC would have handled MM no problem a year prior. There's simply no way to explain MM's boost in strength that makes any sense other than Zelda proxy. I mean it might not be a satisfying conclusion, but there is no other conclusion to be drawn. So we kind of have no choice but to go with the least-bad conclusion.
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I voted for MM for GOTD because it was worthy of winning it!
What do you expect from the sequel to the game most people here considers "best game ever"?
Inside the Zelda fandom,about 20% consider MM superior to OOT
And there is also a very large portion of people that consider MM to be the second best after OOT
So really,this isn't about being drones,this is because MM was really GotD

I am now manually remembering Cloud doubled Sonic.

And just failed to double Frog.

You know I am doing horribly but this contest has been pretty great.
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creativename posted...

red sox 777 posted...

But the whole point of drones is that they are voting for characters they don't really like, just because the character is from the series. But that's not the case. They're ONLY voting for Link.

Majora's Mask winning GOTD is pretty much indefensible though.

Majora's Mask - Game of the Decade?! I mean seriously now.

If it had at least shown strength in the previous year, that would be something. It would show MM had real strength, all on it's own, and it's win was legit and earned. Instead it was not strong at all and would have gotten handled easily by GSC in a 1v1 that year. Then a year later it boosts massively, for no explainable reason other than Zelda proxy.

That's probably the most dronish behavior we've ever seen. Even worse than Pokemon.

The hilarious part? People on the board were rooting for it to win simply to spite Brawl. Just like people are now rooting for Link to beat Draven.

You want to see the real drones? Look at this board.

Also, FF7 fans are all drones, too. Look at how they're all working together this year to not vote for FF7 characters!
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Then there's the LoL drones always voting for Draven so hard he crushes his competition, droning enough to ignore Teemo because he's Teemo.
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The Dissidia drones voting for older characters who had a huge presence in Dissidia.

And don't forget the FF5 drones who helped Gilgamesh win two matches in two contests! They're drony as f***.
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And do you have a favorite character and always vote for them? Congratulations, you're a drone!

Me? I'm a Mario/Luigi drone. I always vote for them because I'm a drone.

What type of drone are you? Are you a Snake drone? A Sephiroth drone? A Guybrush Threepwood drone?
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Anyway, this match sucks because it's predictable after all the chaotic matches we've had so far.

I blame the Resident Evil drones voting for their favorite character because they're drones. If only Shadow and Freeman had better drones supporting them!
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Karma Hunter posted...

Ah whateva let's just skip to Crono/Pikachu/Magus

A switch in poll times has never been a touchy subject in Crono's matches!!
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lol Wylvane went on a rampage

red sox 777 posted...

On a loosely related note, Pokemon has got to be the most dronish fanbase ever. There are, like, 20 Pokemon stronger than the 4th strongest Zelda character.

Lol 4th Zelda character. Outside of link Zelda and Ganon they are all fodder.

Also this Pokemon argument is dumb. You can't compare pokemon to characters in a game. There dozens of Pokemon with equal strength because there's hundreds of them. You need to learn what a drone is.
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Zelda drones calling pokemon fans dronish.

I think i have seen everything. No wonder they said Zelda fanbase is the worst.
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creativename posted...

red sox 777 posted...

But the whole point of drones is that they are voting for characters they don't really like, just because the character is from the series. But that's not the case. They're ONLY voting for Link.

Majora's Mask winning GOTD is pretty much indefensible though.

Majora's Mask - Game of the Decade?! I mean seriously now.

If it had at least shown strength in the previous year, that would be something. It would show MM had real strength, all on it's own, and it's win was legit and earned. Instead it was not strong at all and would have gotten handled easily by GSC in a 1v1 that year. Then a year later it boosts massively, for no explainable reason other than Zelda proxy.

That's probably the most dronish behavior we've ever seen. Even worse than Pokemon.

You people come up with the most utter garbage. S basically you're saying brawl should have won GOTD. That's even more indefensible. A garbage wii game wins GOTD? Majora saved gamefaqs from an utter embarrassment.

Ffx or melee winning would have been good but let's not act like majora is this mega weak game. It's a sequel to ocarina of time.
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red sox 777 posted...

On a loosely related note, Pokemon has got to be the most dronish fanbase ever. There are, like, 20 Pokemon stronger than the 4th strongest Zelda character.

When Pokemon has actually won a contest, then come talk to us again.
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DroneFAQs is obviously what's up. Everyone is a drone.
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Man the vilification of Pokemon just doesn't stop, does it?
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Majora's Mask won GotD because it was the best game in all of its matches.

Wii Sports
Chrono Cross
Pokemon Crystal
Wind Waker
Metal Gear Solid 3
Final Fantasy X
Smash Brawl

Not a single game it faced was better than it. The fact that some of the better games got eliminated before they got to MM is one thing, but it's kind of clear why it won.
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It won because it got more votes, FFD. We know that!
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It beat MGS3 though
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