Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1129

#401 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 2:29:55 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Surge, Sabrina, Giovanni and Lance would probably beat half the fodder in this contest.


Brock would beat all of those and be N9.
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#402 | swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2013 2:31:43 PM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
There's no sprite round this year I think


This is the worst news ever, I hope you just made it up.
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#403 | swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2013 2:31:49 PM | message detail
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#404 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 2:33:11 PM | message detail
We have only 13 matches after this round is over. I hope they're all free-form. A sprite round means we only have four free-form matches; that would be all kinds of lame.
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#405 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/25/2013 2:34:13 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Also, we clearly need a generic base Pokemon to judge how much a random character from RBY will perform with just being a Gen 1 Pokemon.

So we need an early Pokemon, but nothing too popular like a Ratata or Butterfree.

The Nidorans are a good choice, maybe Mankey


I'd nominate something like Venonant, Paras or Exeggcute. I think Mankey has too much going for him.
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#406 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 2:35:32 PM | message detail
swirIdude posted...
swordz9 posted...
There's no sprite round this year I think


This is the worst news ever, I hope you just made it up.


From round 3,all match pictures are free form
Meaning you can do a sprite pic...but it will be in a pool of like 5-6 pictures
#407 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 2:36:33 PM | message detail
Sprite draven should be blob of turd.
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#408 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 2:40:36 PM | message detail
!!! Leon>Gordon>Shadow
! Pikachu>Crono>Magus
Sora>Gilgamesh>Yoshimitsu
!! Blue>Game and Watch>Drake
Samus>Knuckles>Catherine
!! Auron>L Block>Ezio (hmmmmmmm)
Tifa>Yuna>Dragonborn
!! Mario>Vivi>Ganondorf (I don't know,Ganondorf sounds very easy to SFF)
! Squall>Missingno>Amatarsu
Red>Wrex>Wario
Megaman>Jill>Kratos
Zero>Rikku>Cube
Charizard>Zelda>Donkey

!=not sure about first place
!!=not sure about second/third places
!!!=can go either way
#409 | Jakyl25 | Posted 8/25/2013 2:42:31 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
!! Blue>Game and Watch>Drake


Pretty confident Drake will beat G&W for 2nd
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#410 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2013 2:48:01 PM | message detail
I'd give Yoshimitsu a chance Gilgamesh

There's also a chance Tifa SFF Yuna below Dragonborn.
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#411 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 2:51:53 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
I'd give Yoshimitsu a chance Gilgamesh

There's also a chance Tifa SFF Yuna below Dragonborn.


Dragonborn is one of those characters who will have inconsistent strength. He'll look good with fodder around him but if he has decent characters around him he'll look like turd. Tifa will destroy both of them though.
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#412 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/25/2013 2:53:28 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Also, I may have been the first one to suicide for Squall/Luigi. Hell if I remember. But I had Luigi winning the contest in my bracket and was already making enough of a ruckus from all my other trolling s*** so far that contest, so I figured, why not? I could always just make another account and come back, which I did off and on for the next ten years or so.


You were the first and kicked off the string of daily account suicides that lead to the board gaining a user level requirement.
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#413 | superange128 | Posted 8/25/2013 2:54:22 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
We have only 13 matches after this round is over. I hope they're all free-form. A sprite round means we only have four free-form matches; that would be all kinds of lame.


they are actually

The contest image submission form has free-form for every match from R3 onwards, including matches where we don't know all the characters yet (they are just treated as ??????????? for now
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#414 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 3:00:43 PM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
You were the first and kicked off the string of daily account suicides that lead to the board gaining a user level requirement.


what level was the requirement, and was it just to view the board or to actually post
#415 | thunderstruck9 | Posted 8/25/2013 3:02:10 PM | message detail
So Shadow or Freeman for second next match?
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#416 | swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2013 3:05:23 PM | message detail
Always side with Gordon and his crowbar.
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#417 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/25/2013 3:05:24 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
charmander6000 posted...
I'd give Yoshimitsu a chance Gilgamesh

There's also a chance Tifa SFF Yuna below Dragonborn.


Dragonborn is one of those characters who will have inconsistent strength. He'll look good with fodder around him but if he has decent characters around him he'll look like turd. Tifa will destroy both of them though.


Discounting the fact that he looked like a turd in round 1...
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#418 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 3:06:46 PM | message detail
Jakyl25 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
!! Blue>Game and Watch>Drake


Pretty confident Drake will beat G&W for 2nd


Blue can also SFF G&W so yes you have a point
#419 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 3:09:48 PM | message detail
Don't think Dragonborn is strong enough to take advantage of Tifa-Yuna split
Kefka/Zack/Ryu is a good example
#420 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/25/2013 3:14:25 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
You were the first and kicked off the string of daily account suicides that lead to the board gaining a user level requirement.


what level was the requirement, and was it just to view the board or to actually post


It was L15, low enough that after the probationary period for new accounts you could start posting. But you couldn't even view the board until that point.

The requirement's been lowered so that anyone can view the board now, and from what I hear new users can post as soon as they make their account (though you still can't post if you're Warned, from recent experience).
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#421 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2013 3:14:53 PM | message detail
There was little SFF in that match.

I'm just saying if Tifa pulls some SFF Dragonborn has a chance.
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#422 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/25/2013 3:15:26 PM | message detail
Also, the Nidoran M thing was kind of a joke. I was referencing this:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2499
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#423 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2013 3:15:48 PM | message detail
The funny part is despite the requirement people were still suiciding (at a slower rate) they just had to wait a couple of days
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#424 | nkansas13 | Posted 8/25/2013 3:17:59 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
You were the first and kicked off the string of daily account suicides that lead to the board gaining a user level requirement.


what level was the requirement, and was it just to view the board or to actually post


It was L15, low enough that after the probationary period for new accounts you could start posting. But you couldn't even view the board until that point.

The requirement's been lowered so that anyone can view the board now, and from what I hear new users can post as soon as they make their account (though you still can't post if you're Warned, from recent experience).

I'm a new user. I could view the board right away but I couldn't post for a little while (I think it was level 15).
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#425 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 3:19:06 PM | message detail
You can view this board while being logged out..
#426 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/25/2013 3:20:10 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
There was little SFF in that match.

I'm just saying if Tifa pulls some SFF Dragonborn has a chance.


True, but with how awful Dragonborn looked in round one... I'd be more worried about Dragonborn losing to an SFFed Yuna.
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#427 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2013 3:26:17 PM | message detail
I was talking about Dragonborn > Yuna

He has no chance on Tifa
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#428 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 3:26:32 PM | message detail
Anyone wondering about next match...
We all know that "that dog" is the best character ever
"Dog" is a very good robot npc
And "Heavy Dog" is a terrible boss

That Dog > Dog > Heavy Dog
Come on DogFAQs you are making this too easy
#429 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/25/2013 3:35:47 PM | message detail | (edited)
charmander6000 posted...
I was talking about Dragonborn > Yuna

He has no chance on Tifa


Well, I understand that, but I just can't see any excuse for looking like crap against Tom Nook and Pyramid Head. And I see such a performance as bad enough that in my book, he essentially removed himself from the discussion of second place (though I might be wrong and he might get second in spite of it).
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#430 | Polycosm | Posted 8/25/2013 5:03:51 PM | message detail | (edited)
God, Pokemon is wrecking me again.

-Mewtwo blows away Vincent out of nowhere, knocking me out of standard bracket top 50.
-I fall victim to Pokefear and take Lugia over Frog in the expert contest; fall out of expert top 50.
-Think to myself, I overreacted to Mewtwo, and take a statistically sound Dante over Squirtle; both of my brackets take another massive hit.

Now I don't know what to think about Crono versus Pikachu. I guess if I take Pikachu to win in my expert bracket, then at least one of my two brackets has to be correct...

****ing Pokemon!
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#431 | pjbasis | Posted 8/25/2013 4:56:50 PM | message detail
Better hope that York isn't TOO terrible, Cloud!

Kefka - 8.38˘
Zack - 7.22˘
Ryu - 6.56˘
Altair - 5.85˘
Lara - 5.76˘
Ratchet - 4.31˘
Slime - 3.25˘
Shulk - 3.01˘
Yuri - 1.00˘

Cloud - 10.79˘
Frog - 6.05˘
Lugia - 4.97˘
Prinny - 3.86˘
Joe - 3.09˘
Jack - 2.92˘
Sly - 2.39˘
Armstrong - 1.69˘
York - 1.00˘
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#432 | Kibago | Posted 8/25/2013 4:58:25 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...

Kefka - 8.38˘


I don't care who he's Chestering, this is just glorious
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#433 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 5:00:09 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
Shulk - 3.01˘
Yuri - 1.00˘


a Xenoblade character being projected to triple someone?
*gasp*
#434 | Achromatic | Posted 8/25/2013 5:00:16 PM | message detail
So I just realized that Squirtle has a very similar % of the vote that Mewtwo got.

If 44% is what Pokemon is going to get this round Crono/Pikachu is going to be...very interesting.
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#435 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/25/2013 5:01:28 PM | message detail
Polycosm posted...
God, Pokemon is wrecking me again.

-Mewtwo blows away Vincent out of nowhere, knocking me out of standard bracket top 50.
-I fall victim to Pokefear and take Lugia over Frog in the expert contest; fall out of expert top 50.
-Think to myself, I overreacted to Mewtwo, and take a statistically sound Dante over Squirtle; both of my brackets take another massive hit.

Now I don't know what to think about Crono versus Pikachu. I guess if I take Pikachu to win in in my expert bracket, then at least one of my two brackets has to be correct...

****ing Pokemon!


I think people are going to be bailing on Crono in the Expert Challenge. If you go for Pikachu and get it wrong, you probably won't fall very much.
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#436 | pjbasis | Posted 8/25/2013 5:04:10 PM | message detail
Man I have Pikachu in my bracket because I wanted to go for the awesome upset, but now I'm reversed my stance and I hope Crono wins one for everything not Pokemon.
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#437 | pjbasis | Posted 8/25/2013 5:07:00 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
a Xenoblade character being projected to triple someone?
*gasp*


It's strange, the stats line up pretty damn well with the x-stats as far as relative placement but I don't think you could use them to figure out percentages, despite it coming directly from the ratio of percentages in the first place.

Some other variable in there when the degrees of separation become too large has to be used I think.
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#438 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/25/2013 5:07:58 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Considering he could be the strongest Pokemon post-RBY and still lost easily to Frog, yeah it's not all that great. RBY stuff is so much stronger. Remember Lucario also bombed HARD. Pokemon entrants should be restricted to RBY.


Mudkip is probably stronger than Lugia.


Would Lugia even be the strongest of the Gen II cover Pokémon? I mean, yeah, Lugia had a movie, but Ho-oh was in the first episode of the anime. I honestly think there's a chance that Ho-oh would be stronger than Lugia.

But that's a moot point, because I agree that we're going overboard with the Poké entries. Most of the ones who have already been in I have no problem with (other than jokes like Bidoof and Magikarp), but aside from Bulbasaur and maybe some of the later-generation starters (or their evolved forms; either way), there aren't many others I feel any great need to see.
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#439 | pjbasis | Posted 8/25/2013 5:09:26 PM | message detail
I don't think Ho-oh stands a chance because no one cares about it as much as Lugia
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#440 | -Zelmor- | Posted 8/25/2013 5:11:32 PM | message detail
Am i seeing it wrong, people actually believe that Crono with a thorn in his side would eke out a win over Pikachu. If you think he would win, you might as well take him over Cloud in the semi, I'm dead serious about it.
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#441 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/25/2013 5:12:37 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
pjbasis posted...
Shulk - 3.01˘
Yuri - 1.00˘


a Xenoblade character being projected to triple someone?
*gasp*


XD

Though to be fair, Shulk didn't turn out to be terrible fodder like the other two from his game did.
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#442 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/25/2013 5:16:25 PM | message detail
Lugia should be a fair bit more popular than Ho-oh.
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#443 | swordz9 | Posted 8/25/2013 5:17:49 PM | message detail
I know they're in different groups, but I'd take Sly over Shulk without hesitating.
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#444 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/25/2013 5:18:54 PM | message detail
Does anyone actually like Ho-Oh?
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#445 | superange128 | Posted 8/25/2013 5:21:07 PM | message detail
I like Ho-Oh more than Lugia
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#446 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/25/2013 5:21:40 PM | message detail
superange128 posted...
I like Ho-Oh more than Lugia


Because you have good taste.
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#447 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/25/2013 5:26:10 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Does anyone actually like Ho-Oh?


I think pretty much every Pokemon has its fans.
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#448 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 5:58:21 PM | message detail
Crono already has an argument over Cloud. His traditional proportion to Frog is significantly more than Cloud was able to get!

Heck I'd say he's got a better argument over Cloud than he does against Pikachu tomorrow!
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#449 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 8/25/2013 6:03:12 PM | message detail
-Zelmor- posted...
Am i seeing it wrong, people actually believe that Crono with a thorn in his side would eke out a win over Pikachu. If you think he would win, you might as well take him over Cloud in the semi, I'm dead serious about it.


When the contest started I would have laughed at you. Now I'm nodding my head in agreement. I myself picked Pikachu to win in my bracket, but Crono > Cloud would salvage the contest for my own fanboyism regardless of whether LoL fans care enough to rally Draven to the overall win.
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#450 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 8/25/2013 6:04:59 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Crono already has an argument over Cloud. His traditional proportion to Frog is significantly more than Cloud was able to get!

Heck I'd say he's got a better argument over Cloud than he does against Pikachu tomorrow!


I think that's what he was saying, that Frog's showing against Cloud is enough to justify Crono>Cloud. Whereas pre-contest, I don't think anyone would have picked Crono to win, even if we did think Cloud had slipped (since there was no way to know that CT would end up "strong" this year, as far as we can tell).
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