Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1129

#351 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 12:40:53 PM | message detail
Snake doing well is enough for me.

If he had lost to Frog I'd have probably left <_<
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#352 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 12:40:55 PM | message detail
How would Gyrados have done instead of Magikarp? #for some reason I think he would have done better.
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#353 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/25/2013 12:41:23 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
I just realized that Dante pulled a higher percent against Pikachu/Leon/Amaterasu (the match that started POKEFEAR), than he is here.


http://thengamer.com/stats/0501-0550/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt533/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt533%20Pg4.htm
Oh
This is funny!
It seems this board always was anti Pokemon then?

Does ngamer still archive those topics? it would be a shame if all the DravenFEAR posts were not recorded anywhere


I have them but haven't uploaded them yet. I'll try to get around to it soon.
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#354 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 12:42:01 PM | message detail
Gyrarados would have been absolutely curbstomped by Magikarp. Magikarp has more appeal than just straight Pokemon.
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#355 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/25/2013 12:44:08 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
Lopen posted...
After Master Chief and now this I think I'm out for next contest unless we have a radical vote total shift. These matches just aren't very fun anymore!


I sorta felt this way back in 2004/5 with Nintendo.

I'm still here though.


how are gonna feel when Sephy gets 3rd in his next match
YEAH THAT'S RIGHT



lol


if I didn't leave after Snake > Sephiroth that year, I don't know if anything can do it.

Well, maybe Draven.
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#356 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 12:49:13 PM | message detail | (edited)
Karma Hunter posted...
Gyrarados would have been absolutely curbstomped by Magikarp. Magikarp has more appeal than just straight Pokemon.


By who? Magikarp is a joke pokemon. That's why people vote for him. It's not like noone knows who Gyrarados is. tbh I think a lot of "random" pokemon from the 1st gen would be magikarps level. Or at least Lugias level. Lugia is the very definition of a random Legendary.

You could stick any of the legendary birds from Gen 1 and they'd perform at the same level as Lugia probably better. Certainly Zapdos. but the fanbase from gen 1 is split quite a bit. IF we had a pokemon only bracket with about 16 Pokemon, i'd pick several pokemon that aren't in this contest over Lugia.
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#357 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 12:46:19 PM | message detail
Also on Snake. Since 2011 he's had

- MGSV hype
- Jack Bauer is Snake
- MGS HD collection on Vita/360 and PS3

Snake being so strong isn't surprising. After MGSV...he'll be the #2 on this site comfortably.
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#358 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 12:48:48 PM | message detail
I know it's impossible to tier Pokemon but...I would put Gyarados somewhere between Lugia and Jigglypuff in terms of strength
Random RBY Pokemon will do worse than Lugia,I think
Jigglypuff is..I dunno..I can't be the only one to hate Jigglypuff,can I? dum pink ball
#359 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 12:49:48 PM | message detail
Gyarados would do better than Lugia. That's not saying much though.

Magikarp is still better because it's funny.
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#360 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/25/2013 12:52:31 PM | message detail
Bauer being Snake has been a backlash actually

To which I say Bauer > Snake anyways so nyeh
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#361 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 12:54:44 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
I know it's impossible to tier Pokemon but...I would put Gyarados somewhere between Lugia and Jigglypuff in terms of strength
Random RBY Pokemon will do worse than Lugia,I think
Jigglypuff is..I dunno..I can't be the only one to hate Jigglypuff,can I? dum pink ball


Geodude would be stronger than Lugia for sure.
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#362 | AxemRedRanger (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/25/2013 12:55:13 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
Also on Snake. Since 2011 he's had

- MGSV hype
- Jack Bauer is Snake
- MGS HD collection on Vita/360 and PS3

Snake being so strong isn't surprising. After MGSV...he'll be the #2 on this site comfortably.

#2?
Why is MGSV going to make Snake drop?
Or are we assuming Draven wins every character battle from here on out?
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#363 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 12:58:44 PM | message detail | (edited)
Karma Hunter posted...
Gyarados would do better than Lugia. That's not saying much though.

Magikarp is still better because it's funny.


I don't know...tbh I think there are funnier pokemon. Like Machamp. He would be a BEAST in this contest...and it would be funny at the same time. Magikarp was funny. But I think having different pokemon outside of the elite(your pkachus and charizards) would be better.

In all hoensty...their stregnth wouldn't be so different. But i would love to see a division dedicated to just pokemon..that way only a few advance into the actual bracket.
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#364 | The Mana Sword | Posted 8/25/2013 12:59:23 PM | message detail
all Pokemon are the same because DRONES
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#365 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 1:02:42 PM | message detail
From what (little) I've heard, Sutherland actually gives Snake an awesome voice. I feel bad that they left Hayter out to dry completely, but at least they got a quality replacement.
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#366 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2013 1:31:55 PM | message detail | (edited)
Despite Dante being weaker this is still quite impressive by Squritle

Using a constant Zidane that places him in the near-elites.

Charizard's performance on Mario is going to prove almost legit at this rate.
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#367 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 1:12:20 PM | message detail
David Hayter should come back when Fox develops the remake of the original Metal Gear saga post-MGSV.

Which should hopefully establish Snake as this site's #1 after experiencing the awe of Young Solid Snake <_<
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#368 | swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2013 1:14:51 PM | message detail
Dunno if this was mentioned yet, but if you hold Dante constant (dubious, I know) Squirtle gets pretty close to Cloud.

Add in the likelihood of this being a sprite round, you'll get Lego Cloud vs RBY Squirtle...

...Cloud is so screwed.
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#369 | swordz9 | Posted 8/25/2013 1:16:06 PM | message detail
There's no sprite round this year I think so Cloud is luckier than normal. Squirtle could still very well get a sprite pic or something though.
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#370 | AxemRedRanger (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/25/2013 1:19:21 PM | message detail
Assuming constant Zidane, 2010 Ike = Zidane, and Ike/Mario with no SFF (with any extra percent you give Ike making Squirtle look better), Squirtle is currently worth 36.2% on Mario.

ATTN: KH

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3802
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#371 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 1:24:57 PM | message detail
For the third round and beyond, we are accepting free-form images with the following requirements:

Images must be 299 pixels wide by 187 pixels high, and should be submitted in a high-quality format (24-bit PNG or low-compression JPEG).
Each image should represent all three characters fairly and in a similar style when possible.


No sprite round
But more options to sabotage!
#372 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 1:29:36 PM | message detail
we just need shades Squirtle for max hilarity next round
#373 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/25/2013 1:30:15 PM | message detail
Squirtle Squad Squirtle vs. Some Goofy Picture of Cloud
#374 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 1:32:01 PM | message detail
I think Pokemon obliterates the two words "assuming constant"

Which makes contests either much better or much worse depending on how you approach it.
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#375 | creativename | Posted 8/25/2013 1:33:43 PM | message detail
So I see people saying this is largely Dante bombing because of how well Zidane is doing. I guess that makes sense, with DmC and all. Perhaps Squirtle isn't really the godslayer he appears. Don't think we can be sure at this point though.

Also his next round performance might not tell us much because you just know he'll overperform vs. Cloud.

ZFS posted...
Haha. Worst match! I will never forget the name nanasilencer because of that match

This sounds vaguely familiar. What's the story there?

Karma Hunter posted...
Frog's third best hour came at the end of the match! What the HELL Chrono Trigger

Yeah, those trends were nothing like Chrono Trigger's normal trends.

Maybe red sox's theory that Chrono Trigger DS would boost CT's Europe vote has come true...extremely belatedly!!
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#376 | creativename | Posted 8/25/2013 1:37:18 PM | message detail
Shoenin_Kakashi posted...
We didnt even get Mario vs Sonic that contest. That was the biggest snub.

Mario vs. Sonic was the only rivalry anyone had any interest in whatsoever pre-contest. That's the only thing anyone actually wanted to see.

And it was the one rivalry never allowed.

Surreal. Such a completely pointless contest without Mario/Sonic. Literally the only reason for the contest to exist is disqualified.
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#377 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 1:43:02 PM | message detail
nanasilencer was the huge Squall fangirl that was supporting him in Squall/Luigi. She was a big reason why the board got ginned up so much to explode in the way it did.
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#378 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 1:44:50 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
nanasilencer was the huge Squall fangirl that was supporting him in Squall/Luigi. She was a big reason why the board got ginned up so much to explode in the way it did.


lol this sounds hilarious
how exactly did ther board "explode", someone mentioned mass account suicide earlier
#379 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/25/2013 1:45:17 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
And it was the one rivalry never allowed.


Not quite. Bacon also disallowed Charles Barkley vs. Michael Jordan (and then let in Hitler).
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#380 | AxemRedRanger (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/25/2013 1:47:14 PM | message detail
And I have never forgiven Bacon for it.
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#381 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 1:48:33 PM | message detail
...If Hitler ever makes it into a contest...there is going to be so much rage
I can totally see /b/ finally having interest about this site contests and rallying for him so hard it will make Draven look like a fodder compared their rally
#382 | creativename | Posted 8/25/2013 1:53:19 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
creativename posted...
And it was the one rivalry never allowed.


Not quite. Bacon also disallowed Charles Barkley vs. Michael Jordan (and then let in Hitler).

Oh man Jordan/Barkley would have been awesome.

...instead Bacon lets in Hitler and Lu Bu.

What a mastermind running these contests we have.
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#383 | tgs2 | Posted 8/25/2013 1:54:42 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
...If Hitler ever makes it into a contest...there is going to be so much rage
I can totally see /b/ finally having interest about this site contests and rallying for him so hard it will make Draven look like a fodder compared their rally


Except they did rally Hitler hard and only scored ~40% against Sora/Riku
#384 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2013 2:03:55 PM | message detail | (edited)
lol this sounds hilarious
how exactly did ther board "explode", someone mentioned mass account suicide earlier


Imagine the whining/gloating with Draven, now imagine all those topics on the front page with about 2 minutes between the newest and 50th oldest topic and each topic having a decent amount of posts.

Squall was hated while Luigi was suppose to challenge Samus.

What made it even worse was Luigi was leading for the first 15 minutes before falling off the cliff.
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#385 | AxemRedRanger (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/25/2013 2:06:16 PM | message detail | (edited)
Sora/Riku vs. Hitler/Other Guy was hilarious. After the start of the match /b/ made major percentage cuts for a couple hours but failed to stop Sora's lead from increasing. Eventually they give up and then the kids got home from school and completely buried Hitler.

Oh, and yes, Hitler won Germany in that match. Most of Europe actually!
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#386 | SoulDynasty | Posted 8/25/2013 2:11:58 PM | message detail
This match was one of the easier matches to predict. Squirtle may not beat Charizard, but he shouldn't be too far off. He might even be stronger than Pikachu. Dante can't touch that.

Even though Pokemon is over-represented in this contest, I'm pretty fine with it. That franchise has the most interesting characters for the contests these days, so the popular ones should make it in. N, Lugia, and Jigglypuff shouldn't have made it, while having both MissingNo. and Magicarp makes little sense, but Charizard/Pikachu/Squirtle/Red should be contest staples now. Blue also if he can prove he is as strong as his first round shows.

I mean, we already get like 15 slots dedicated to Final Fantasy every contest. If you're pissed off about over-representation, you should have been complaining about it years ago.
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#387 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2013 2:15:07 PM | message detail
To defend Final Fantasy the games might as well be separate, outside of a few things they don't have much in common.
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#388 | SoulDynasty | Posted 8/25/2013 2:16:12 PM | message detail
Lame defense. Same could be said for Pokemon.

(Which doesn't make it true, btw)
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#389 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/25/2013 2:16:14 PM | message detail
Reptile/Amphibians dominating even harder than DogFAQs! This is promising news for Charizard! BirdFAQs still looks horrible, though.
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#390 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 2:17:14 PM | message detail
I wanna swap Squirtle for Blastoise next time. I don't expect much of a strength difference (they'd beat and lose to all the same guys, probably), but Blastoise makes for better match pics.
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#391 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 2:18:08 PM | message detail
People complain about Final Fantasy overrepresentation every year, so that's a stupid comparison to make. Pokemon RBY also has gotten more entrants into this thing than any other single game, full stop.
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#392 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2013 2:18:59 PM | message detail
You can still use the Pokemon in any game, but you can't play with, say Tidus in Final Fantasy XIII
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#393 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/25/2013 2:20:43 PM | message detail | (edited)
Also, I may have been the first one to suicide for Squall/Luigi. Hell if I remember. But I had Luigi winning the contest in my bracket and was already making enough of a ruckus from all my other trolling s*** so far that contest, so I figured, why not? I could always just make another account and come back, which I did off and on for the next ten years or so.
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#394 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 2:20:59 PM | message detail
Well counting the trainers and Misty and Brock, RBY literally has 155 entrants that can possibly win a match or at least avoid coming in last. This is the cost of doing business playa!
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#395 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 2:21:53 PM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
...If Hitler ever makes it into a contest...there is going to be so much rage
I can totally see /b/ finally having interest about this site contests and rallying for him so hard it will make Draven look like a fodder compared their rally


Except they did rally Hitler hard and only scored ~40% against Sora/Riku

Oh..I searched-
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll?search=hitler
Seems like he was called just "Adolf" so that's why I thought he didn't make it..
#396 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/25/2013 2:22:56 PM | message detail
Also, we clearly need a generic base Pokemon to judge how much a random character from RBY will perform with just being a Gen 1 Pokemon.

I nominate Nidoran M.
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#397 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/25/2013 2:23:40 PM | message detail
Surge, Sabrina, Giovanni and Lance would probably beat half the fodder in this contest.
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#398 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 2:26:19 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I wanna swap Squirtle for Blastoise next time. I don't expect much of a strength difference (they'd beat and lose to all the same guys, probably), but Blastoise makes for better match pics.


Squirtle Squad says sup
#399 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 2:27:02 PM | message detail
I always throw away Weepinbell when talking about "most forgettable gen 1 Pokemon"
A middle evo,evolving with a stone so you don't spend too much time with...a mediocre Pokemon stats wise..and a stupid design
He never had a central role in the anime either (the most important role he had was a 30 seconds fight on the 9th episode)
#400 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2013 2:29:46 PM | message detail
Also, we clearly need a generic base Pokemon to judge how much a random character from RBY will perform with just being a Gen 1 Pokemon.

So we need an early Pokemon, but nothing too popular like a Ratata or Butterfree.

The Nidorans are a good choice, maybe Mankey
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