Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1129

#301 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/25/2013 11:42:36 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
It's always funny to see people who've only been around for a few years talk about how salty the board is.

Nothing these contests produce will EVER rival stuff we saw in the early years

CJayC literally implemented a Level 15 user cap after Squall/Luigi because so many people suicided after Squall won


Just to clarify, I absolutely don't doubt this was the case, and I wish I would have been around back then. Seems like it would have been a blast.

I can totally picture myself back in 2002, making a bracket. "Who the hell is Sephiroth? Everybody loves Crash, he's got this."
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#302 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 11:43:09 AM | message detail
Heh,I made my account to lurk this board back in 2003 (when it was members-only for some reason) then it was banned or something and I created the current one
I don't remember much stats discussion of old contests,but I remember the rage about Missingno and L-Block
#303 | AxemRedRanger (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/25/2013 11:43:28 AM | message detail
TheCodeisBosco posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
I've been lurking or posting in these threads since around the Character Battle VIII Contest and I don't think people have ever been as stirred up as they are now.


I started lurking here around the '09 Games Contest, and I agree. Between Draven, the seething Pokemon hate and other miscellaneous debacles (Vincentgate, LITERALLY A HORSE, etc), I've never seen this board so salty in my life.

Personally, I think this contest has been a lot of fun. Especially since Mr. G&W got to win a match!


YESSSSS Mr. Game & Watch is the man!
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#304 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/25/2013 11:43:39 AM | message detail
Mega Man being a 6 and Sephiroth being a 7 in a division where Serious Sam got a 3 seed is still probably the weirdest seeding ever
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#305 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/25/2013 11:43:56 AM | message detail
TheCodeisBosco posted...
I wish Charizard/Blastoise made Rivalry Rumble.

Not technically a "canon" rivalry, but c'mon. Anyone around for the initial Pokemon craze knows that s*** was a rivalry.


We didnt even get Mario vs Sonic that contest. That was the biggest snub.


Oh well trainers did thier job
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#306 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/25/2013 11:44:44 AM | message detail
Shoenin_Kakashi posted...
We didnt even get Mario vs Sonic that contest. That was the biggest snub.


Bacon refused to add them to the database, too!
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#307 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 11:46:07 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Yes it is. I'll probably be supporting Link but if he goes down I'm getting behind Draven because as I said before ANYTHING is better than more goddamn Pokemon


you'd support Draven over Snake?
what a disgusting human being
#308 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 11:46:37 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Pokemon is fine but it's oversaturated in the contest. Like, Pikachu and Charizard would be cool but instead we've got Pikachu and Charizard and Squirtle and Mewtwo and Lugia and Magikarp and Jigglypuff. It's like if we had put the entire cast of FF7 in 2003, you'd have seen half of the Sweet Sixteen being made up of FF7 potentially!


If that's your reasoning then I can totally understand and kind of agree with
I still want to know why you are so much against the idea of Mewtwo rally against Draven
Is it because it won't work and lost cause? (in that case,im willing to waste my time..you don't have to do anything,but why go against it..?) or is it also because Pokemon got so many entries this contest that you are tired even of it's "top tiers"?
#309 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 11:46:43 AM | message detail
No Mario v Sonic, no Snake v Big Boss, no Crono v Magus... Rivalry Rumble is still the worst thing ever
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#310 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 11:47:24 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Yes it is. I'll probably be supporting Link but if he goes down I'm getting behind Draven because as I said before ANYTHING is better than more goddamn Pokemon


you'd support Draven over Snake?
what a disgusting human being


like Snake's even going to make it to Draven
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#311 | ZFS | Posted 8/25/2013 11:48:06 AM | message detail | (edited)
Yeah, that was kinda dumb. Rivalry Rumble could have been cool, but there were weird limitations on it.
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#312 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 11:48:29 AM | message detail
Also why do people keep going on about pokemon fanbase? The pokemon following isnt' THAT big on this site. If it was then we would have garbage pokemon from the 3rd/4th and 5th gens in this contest.

The actual hardcore Pokemon fanbase probably makes up for much less than 50% of votes for guys like Charizard. He's an iconic pokemon that even people who don't care about pokemon now will vote for him for nostalgic reasons. There's no way a guy like Dante can compete with characters who can potentially gain votes from a massive potential of users. When you analyse a character poll you have to take into account how many people have played the games the characters are in.
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#313 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/25/2013 11:49:35 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Mega Man being a 6 and Sephiroth being a 7 in a division where Serious Sam got a 3 seed is still probably the weirdest seeding ever


The fact that we got to see a match between an off-brand Duke Nukem and an off-brand Dig Dug is still amazing to think about.

Summer 2002: two PaRappa characters, one Mario one.
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#314 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 11:50:27 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Shoenin_Kakashi posted...
We didnt even get Mario vs Sonic that contest. That was the biggest snub.


Bacon refused to add them to the database, too!


as long as Allen is Admin. We will never have decent contests anymore. his last contest(rivalry rumble) was arguably one of the worst contests in Gfaqs history.
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#315 | LOLContests | Posted 8/25/2013 11:50:33 AM | message detail
People always talked about Mario Vs. Sonic being a snub, but was it even eligible? Aren't the Olympics games just party sports games with both Sonic and Mario characters in them? Saying that they are rivals from that would be like saying Mario and Peach are rivals because of a Mario Kart game.
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#316 | Greyfeld | Posted 8/25/2013 11:50:45 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Pokemon is fine but it's oversaturated in the contest. Like, Pikachu and Charizard would be cool but instead we've got Pikachu and Charizard and Squirtle and Mewtwo and Lugia and Magikarp and Jigglypuff. It's like if we had put the entire cast of FF7 in 2003, you'd have seen half of the Sweet Sixteen being made up of FF7 potentially!


If that's your reasoning then I can totally understand and kind of agree with
I still want to know why you are so much against the idea of Mewtwo rally against Draven
Is it because it won't work and lost cause? (in that case,im willing to waste my time..you don't have to do anything,but why go against it..?) or is it also because Pokemon got so many entries this contest that you are tired even of it's "top tiers"?


And yet, nobody seems to care when Final Fantasy gets a dozen character slots...
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#317 | AxemRedRanger (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/25/2013 11:56:05 AM | message detail
LOLContests posted...
People always talked about Mario Vs. Sonic being a snub, but was it even eligible? Aren't the Olympics games just party sports games with both Sonic and Mario characters in them? Saying that they are rivals from that would be like saying Mario and Peach are rivals because of a Mario Kart game.
Questioning whether Mario and Sonic are rivals is completely preposterous.

If Mario/Sonic wasn't eligible to be in the contest, then the contest should not have been eligible to exist, and it probably shouldn't have existed anyways. We thought it was going to suck and it did. This is final.
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#318 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/25/2013 11:57:02 AM | message detail
Two things to ask:

1) Is this Dante's worst loss to a non-Noble Niner?
2) Would GLaDOS beat Dante now?
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#319 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/25/2013 11:57:21 AM | message detail
LOLContests posted...
People always talked about Mario Vs. Sonic being a snub, but was it even eligible? Aren't the Olympics games just party sports games with both Sonic and Mario characters in them? Saying that they are rivals from that would be like saying Mario and Peach are rivals because of a Mario Kart game.


Bacon said it was eligible, but Mario/Bowser got way more noms.

I wonder why...!
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#320 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/25/2013 11:59:07 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I think Gordon may have boosted more from The Orange Box than HL2. Apart from a crummy original Xbox port that no one played, HL2 was exclusive to PC unti late 2007.


Half-Life 2 made Gordon go from being bad fodder to a decent midcarder. It had quite an effect.

Also am I the only one who feels as if Resident Evil 4 is no longer as well-liked now as it used to be?
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#321 | LOLContests | Posted 8/25/2013 11:59:47 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
LOLContests posted...
People always talked about Mario Vs. Sonic being a snub, but was it even eligible? Aren't the Olympics games just party sports games with both Sonic and Mario characters in them? Saying that they are rivals from that would be like saying Mario and Peach are rivals because of a Mario Kart game.


Bacon said it was eligible, but Mario/Bowser got way more noms.

I wonder why...!


Oh OK, it's stupid that it wasn't added then. I doubt Bacon had it out for that specific rivalry though. No rivalries were added past the first day though were they?
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#322 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 12:01:42 PM | message detail | (edited)
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Two things to ask:

1) Is this Dante's worst loss to a non-Noble Niner?
2) Would GLaDOS beat Dante now?


You are killing me for asking questions you can check by yourself
oh well
Yes this is the first time he lost to a non noble niner by more than 54%
Not counting tohse matches
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2924
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3303
Decide by yourself
Also there was the match in the rivalry contest but it doesn't count

edit-oh it was actually close..yeah,so look on those 2 polls and answer for yourself
#323 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/25/2013 12:01:20 PM | message detail
LOLContests posted...
People always talked about Mario Vs. Sonic being a snub, but was it even eligible? Aren't the Olympics games just party sports games with both Sonic and Mario characters in them? Saying that they are rivals from that would be like saying Mario and Peach are rivals because of a Mario Kart game.


Olympics? LOL

Mario VS Sonic was the biggest rivarly in gaming until the 4th generation.
#324 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/25/2013 12:01:56 PM | message detail
LOLContests posted...
Oh OK, it's stupid that it wasn't added then. I doubt Bacon had it out for that specific rivalry though. No rivalries were added past the first day though were they?


Yeah, nothing else was added after the first day.
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#325 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 12:04:10 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I think Gordon may have boosted more from The Orange Box than HL2. Apart from a crummy original Xbox port that no one played, HL2 was exclusive to PC unti late 2007.


Half-Life 2 made Gordon go from being bad fodder to a decent midcarder. It had quite an effect.

Also am I the only one who feels as if Resident Evil 4 is no longer as well-liked now as it used to be?


I doubt it. If anything due to the crapfest RE6 people appreciate RE4 more. also it came out on XBL/PSN a few years ago. Must have boosted it. IT's still by and away Capcoms most popular game on this site and will be for some time.
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#326 | AxemRedRanger (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/25/2013 12:05:20 PM | message detail
Oh, and Greyfeld?

Squirtle most certainly does not need their help!
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#327 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/25/2013 12:07:51 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Two things to ask:

1) Is this Dante's worst loss to a non-Noble Niner?
2) Would GLaDOS beat Dante now?


You are killing me for asking questions you can check by yourself
oh well
Yes this is the first time he lost to a non noble niner by more than 54%
Not counting tohse matches
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2924
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3303
Decide by yourself
Also there was the match in the rivalry contest but it doesn't count

edit-oh it was actually close..yeah,so look on those 2 polls and answer for yourself


I don't feel like counting 4-way matches, but I didn't remember Dante getting destroyed so badly in either of them.
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#328 | LOLContests | Posted 8/25/2013 12:09:10 PM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
LOLContests posted...
People always talked about Mario Vs. Sonic being a snub, but was it even eligible? Aren't the Olympics games just party sports games with both Sonic and Mario characters in them? Saying that they are rivals from that would be like saying Mario and Peach are rivals because of a Mario Kart game.


Olympics? LOL

Mario VS Sonic was the biggest rivarly in gaming until the 4th generation.


I don't disagree, but the rules said that the rivalry had to be in an actual video game, I believe.
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#329 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 12:09:17 PM | message detail
People speculated that DmC would make people appreciate the older DMC games more and uh well

RE6 is not a good thing.
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#330 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 12:09:29 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Nanis23 posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Two things to ask:

1) Is this Dante's worst loss to a non-Noble Niner?
2) Would GLaDOS beat Dante now?


You are killing me for asking questions you can check by yourself
oh well
Yes this is the first time he lost to a non noble niner by more than 54%
Not counting tohse matches
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2924
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3303
Decide by yourself
Also there was the match in the rivalry contest but it doesn't count

edit-oh it was actually close..yeah,so look on those 2 polls and answer for yourself


I don't feel like counting 4-way matches, but I didn't remember Dante getting destroyed so badly in either of them.


http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Dante
#331 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/25/2013 12:09:37 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I think Gordon may have boosted more from The Orange Box than HL2. Apart from a crummy original Xbox port that no one played, HL2 was exclusive to PC unti late 2007.


Half-Life 2 made Gordon go from being bad fodder to a decent midcarder. It had quite an effect.

Also am I the only one who feels as if Resident Evil 4 is no longer as well-liked now as it used to be?


I doubt it. If anything due to the crapfest RE6 people appreciate RE4 more. also it came out on XBL/PSN a few years ago. Must have boosted it. IT's still by and away Capcoms most popular game on this site and will be for some time.


I feel as if RE6 and RE5 have both soured RE4's reputation because RE4's success is what made the series take an action-oriented direction. Same idea with Mass Effect 2.

Heck, one could say that RE4 popularized the "linear shooter strewn with quick-time events" that has become a staple of this generation much to the disgust of many. To me it makes sense.
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#332 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 12:10:28 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Yes it is. I'll probably be supporting Link but if he goes down I'm getting behind Draven because as I said before ANYTHING is better than more goddamn Pokemon


you'd support Draven over Snake?
what a disgusting human being


like Snake's even going to make it to Draven


lol who's going to stop him? Cloud? hahaha.
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#333 | Greyfeld | Posted 8/25/2013 12:10:44 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Oh, and Greyfeld?

Squirtle most certainly does not need their help!


I added that when the contest started, no reason to take it down now :P
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#334 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 12:14:40 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
The_Djoker posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I think Gordon may have boosted more from The Orange Box than HL2. Apart from a crummy original Xbox port that no one played, HL2 was exclusive to PC unti late 2007.


Half-Life 2 made Gordon go from being bad fodder to a decent midcarder. It had quite an effect.

Also am I the only one who feels as if Resident Evil 4 is no longer as well-liked now as it used to be?


I doubt it. If anything due to the crapfest RE6 people appreciate RE4 more. also it came out on XBL/PSN a few years ago. Must have boosted it. IT's still by and away Capcoms most popular game on this site and will be for some time.


I feel as if RE6 and RE5 have both soured RE4's reputation because RE4's success is what made the series take an action-oriented direction. Same idea with Mass Effect 2.

Heck, one could say that RE4 popularized the "linear shooter strewn with quick-time events" that has become a staple of this generation much to the disgust of many. To me it makes sense.


Trust me, it's not many..it's minority. The same people want garbage outdated clunky camera with awful controls. You can look at it two ways...the people who moan probably enver liked RE4 in the first place. In that case the numbers aren't big. Yo ugo to every board and there's always people talking about how crap and overrated FF7 is or OoT or FFX. There's hate for every game. the haters are just louder.
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#335 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 12:20:43 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
People speculated that DmC would make people appreciate the older DMC games more and uh well

RE6 is not a good thing.


When I say appreciate I was talking from a fans point of view. RE6 isn't going to make RE4 stronger. But in all honesty, i don't see how RE4 becomes weaker either. And there isn't a single DMC game remotely close to rE4's strength to compare but but I'm pretty sure peoples opinions on DMC1 and DMC3 hasn't changed because of DmC.

Now characters...that's a completely different story. Leon was IN RE6..so if he does bad it's not because RE4 went down. Same with Dante. Though I just think Dante is weaker because he hasn't had any significant games in a long time. The DmC dante is almost a completely different character. If you had DmC dante in the poll he would be turbo fodder. Would lose to Zidane handily.
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#336 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/25/2013 12:22:03 PM | message detail
Haha Squirtle.

This isn't even Squirtle doing *that* insanely well, it's just Dante is completely bombing.
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#337 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/25/2013 12:23:20 PM | message detail
I just realized that Dante pulled a higher percent against Pikachu/Leon/Amaterasu (the match that started POKEFEAR), than he is here.
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#338 | creativename | Posted 8/25/2013 12:24:41 PM | message detail
It appears Cloud would probably lose a 12 hour match to Squirtle. Who'da thunk it?

24 hour match will save Cloud I think.

Also the crono/Pikachu match is even crazier to predict now that Frog and Squirtle both did so well. Basically everything so far in this contest has made both Crono *and* Pikachu look good by proxy.
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#339 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/25/2013 12:24:51 PM | message detail
Well....close enough.
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#340 | Lopen | Posted 8/25/2013 12:25:21 PM | message detail
After Master Chief and now this I think I'm out for next contest unless we have a radical vote total shift. These matches just aren't very fun anymore!
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#341 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/25/2013 12:26:46 PM | message detail
Psh, who's the one who told me in the Crew to stop being a baby after the Tidus fiasco?
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#342 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 12:27:34 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Psh, who's the one who told me in the Crew to stop being a baby after the Tidus fiasco?


stop being a baby :P
#343 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 8/25/2013 12:28:25 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Also the crono/Pikachu match is even crazier to predict now that Frog and Squirtle both did so well. Basically everything so far in this contest has made both Crono *and* Pikachu look good by proxy.


Yeah big-time. Funny that this match was considered the bellweather for the rest of the contest even before everything happened...and now it's harder to predict than ever. Not just Frog/Pokemon looking good, but whether Magus will help or hinder Crono.
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#344 | Lopen | Posted 8/25/2013 12:29:07 PM | message detail
Hey I'm still gonna finish up write-ups for this contest! I'm just saying I've got like no remotely viable FANBOY PICK GO options anymore which is all I stick around for, ya know?

Also fluke vote stuffing is less significant than a legitimate (terrible) voterbase shift!
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#345 | ZFS | Posted 8/25/2013 12:33:59 PM | message detail
What about Kirby
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#346 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/25/2013 12:35:27 PM | message detail
replace lopen with war

his fanboy picks are about as reasonable but he's even more willing to go full stupid
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#347 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/25/2013 12:36:54 PM | message detail
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
I just realized that Dante pulled a higher percent against Pikachu/Leon/Amaterasu (the match that started POKEFEAR), than he is here.


http://thengamer.com/stats/0501-0550/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt533/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt533%20Pg4.htm
Oh
This is funny!
It seems this board always was anti Pokemon then?

Does ngamer still archive those topics? it would be a shame if all the DravenFEAR posts were not recorded anywhere
#348 | jonthomson | Posted 8/25/2013 12:38:07 PM | message detail
lol pokemon
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#349 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/25/2013 12:38:46 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
After Master Chief and now this I think I'm out for next contest unless we have a radical vote total shift. These matches just aren't very fun anymore!


I sorta felt this way back in 2004/5 with Nintendo.

I'm still here though.
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#350 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
Lopen posted...
After Master Chief and now this I think I'm out for next contest unless we have a radical vote total shift. These matches just aren't very fun anymore!


I sorta felt this way back in 2004/5 with Nintendo.

I'm still here though.


how are gonna feel when Sephy gets 3rd in his next match
YEAH THAT'S RIGHT



lol