Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1129

#201 | LOLContests | Posted 8/25/2013 10:24:40 AM | message detail
Let's acknowledge that a huge part of this here is Dante bombing. I mean there's only so high that you can take Ramza in the X-Stats, and even assuming Squirtle 70/30's him in a 24 hour match, that only really puts him around 28 or so on BL.
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#202 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 10:24:41 AM | message detail
A GOOD RESULT FOR JILL VALENTINE
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#203 | swordz9 | Posted 8/25/2013 10:24:55 AM | message detail
Dante could still be hurt by DmC even without a DmC picture. I picked Shadow to win the Shadow/Leon/Gordon match, but I don't base it on anything. Just trying for an upset really.
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#204 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 10:27:32 AM | message detail
Of course Dante's bombing, he's getting cut by Zidane. Vaccum Theory can go take a hike, everyone would have taken Squirtle if they knew Dante would be hanging with friggin' ZIDANE
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#205 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/25/2013 10:28:49 AM | message detail
It still boggles my mind that we got DmC instead of DMC5. You people talk about Resident Evil 6 bombing, but that was at least an earnest attempt by a developer to make a cool new game that just failed miserably. DmC was like a tactical nuke targeted directly at the DMC fanbase.
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#206 | The Real Truth | Posted 8/25/2013 10:31:21 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
It still boggles my mind that we got DmC instead of DMC5. You people talk about Resident Evil 6 bombing, but that was at least an earnest attempt by a developer to make a cool new game that just failed miserably. DmC was like a tactical nuke targeted directly at the DMC fanbase.


Seriously, **** that director. I still can't get over him trying to make Dante look like him.
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#207 | swordz9 | Posted 8/25/2013 10:34:02 AM | message detail
Wasn't DmC a result of somebody trying to make it appeal more to a Western gaming audience or something? Japanese developers just need to make games how they have been instead of trying to make them Western since they just make their games terrible >_>
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#208 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 10:34:53 AM | message detail
Shadow's also probably the most favorable guy to advance out of next round for Cloud if Leon's RE6 picture tanks him. Cloud/Squirtle/Shadow is not an advantageous setup for Squirtle. Still think the smart money's on Gordon, though.
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#209 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/25/2013 10:36:25 AM | message detail
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#210 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/25/2013 10:37:00 AM | message detail | (edited)
Part of DmC's marketing was literally to claim that the the DMC series was stale and that no one wanted it anymore, and they actually did a good job of convincing stupid reviewers of that so I'm not even sure that can bring back the old series without consequences. What DmC game accomplished:

-Alienated old fans, who didn't buy the game and hated the new direction
-Publicly soiled the entire DMC name as a necessity to try and prop up the new game as better
-Brought in few new fans, who stopped caring a week after the game came out
-Replaced the icon of the action game genre with a walking, talking turd

Absolutely amazing. Dante is dead, gentlemen. Bless his 80s-action-movie-fueled soul.
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#211 | ZFS | Posted 8/25/2013 10:37:37 AM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
Dante could still be hurt by DmC even without a DmC picture.


Yep. Dante's last relevant game was 2008, and DMC is hardly a GameFAQs staple as it is, and on top of that, DmC enjoyed a ton of backlash for the longest time, sold pretty bad, and put a question mark on the series going forward. All that together, and a more hardcore GameFAQs audience, I can believe Dante's worse off than he's been in a long time.
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#212 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/25/2013 10:39:34 AM | message detail
Holy crap, what the hell Squirtle?

If DmC hurt Dante this much, then Samus is doomed! Not that I believe that a bad game does too much to knock down a character (Portable Ops had no effect on the MGS crew).
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#213 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 10:39:35 AM | message detail
Squirlte is just too damn adorable. But honestly, Blastoise would be getting 50% in this.

A Blastoise/Charizard/Pikachu threeway would be EPIC
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#214 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 10:41:12 AM | message detail
GloryChaos posted...
Holy crap, what the hell Squirtle?

If DmC hurt Dante this much, then Samus is doomed! Not that I believe that a bad game does too much to knock down a character (Portable Ops had no effect on the MGS crew).


Nobody played Portable Ops (hence why my Game Script for it was so popular <_<). I don't believe this is all DmC, but Samus is probably not at her 2010 peak post-Other M.
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#215 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 10:41:54 AM | message detail
ZFS posted...
swordz9 posted...
Dante could still be hurt by DmC even without a DmC picture.


Yep. Dante's last relevant game was 2008, and DMC is hardly a GameFAQs staple as it is, and on top of that, DmC enjoyed a ton of backlash for the longest time, sold pretty bad, and put a question mark on the series going forward. All that together, and a more hardcore GameFAQs audience, I can believe Dante's worse off than he's been in a long time.


I don't think DmC has hurt original Dante, fact is he hasn't had any relevant games in a while. DMC HD collection would have boosted him a tiny bit but that came out like mid 2012.

I think the only characters that would have been hurt badly by bad games is Chris Redfield.
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#216 | The Real Truth | Posted 8/25/2013 10:43:08 AM | message detail
Here's the lifetime DMC sales figures taken from http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html

DMC4 - 2,700,000
DMC1 - 2,160,000
DMC2 - 1,700,000
DMC3 - 1,300,000
DmC - 1,100,000

lol DmC
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#217 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/25/2013 10:43:13 AM | message detail
So, wait, GameFAQs is stuck in 2006 and yet it still lets people like Dante drop because of new releases??? THIS PLACE.
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#218 | swordz9 | Posted 8/25/2013 10:43:50 AM | message detail
Kratos could've been hurt by God of War 3. It was an awesome game, but I think a lot of people hated the ending. Sure he got some somewhat recent prequel game or whatever, but GoW3's ending is the only thing I can think of for why Kratos would look so bad against Travis and Recette.
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#219 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/25/2013 10:44:05 AM | message detail
DMC3 sold a lot more than that through re-releases and stuff, too.
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#220 | Wanglicious | Posted 8/25/2013 10:44:27 AM | message detail
good god, squirtle is killing it.
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#221 | xp1337 | Posted 8/25/2013 10:44:31 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
So, wait, GameFAQs is stuck in 2006 and yet it still lets people like Dante drop because of new releases??? THIS PLACE.

GameFAQs is stuck in 2006 because every time it tries to leave it just has the misfortune of picking the games that send it running right back!
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#222 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 10:46:31 AM | message detail
I'm curious to see how Leon does.

Also a lot of the "badass" type characters(male ones) have declined. Master Chief was abysmal, Kratos looked average and Ezio/Altair didn't look good either. The most impressive badass so far has been Wrex.
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#223 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 10:48:22 AM | message detail
And Wrex is very much RPG before anything else.

...but yeah, good point, I forgot about Kratos, and I'm worried about that Resident Evil 6 picture in conjunction with everything else. I may just end up sitting out tonight and going Triple No Picks.
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#224 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 10:49:00 AM | message detail
Badass Decline Theory really people did you not see Solid Snake
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#225 | ZFS | Posted 8/25/2013 10:49:51 AM | message detail
Don't really agree with the idea that bad games do nothing to a character's standing. Just one random spinoff in a series that gets consistent releases, sure, it's not gonna do much. But a bad game in a series that gets releases spread out? That can hurt, especially for someone like Dante.
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#226 | swordz9 | Posted 8/25/2013 10:51:31 AM | message detail
Snake hasn't had any good competition yet this contest. I mean Alucard is decent enough, but I think that weird feminine eyes closed pic he got wasn't very good.
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#227 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/25/2013 10:51:39 AM | message detail
Never bank, YoBlazer

never bank
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#228 | dethfdddddh | Posted 8/25/2013 10:52:14 AM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
Snake hasn't had any good competition yet this contest. I mean Alucard is decent enough, but I think that weird feminine eyes closed pic he got wasn't very good.


how dare alucard look like alucard
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#229 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 10:52:15 AM | message detail
But Dante looked awesome in R1, we can't just throw that out.

F*** I'm not even sure if I'm being sincere or not.
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#230 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/25/2013 10:52:26 AM | message detail
The Real Truth posted...
Here's the lifetime DMC sales figures taken from http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html

DMC4 - 2,700,000
DMC1 - 2,160,000
DMC2 - 1,700,000
DMC3 - 1,300,000
DmC - 1,100,000

lol DmC


tbh even a million isn't terrible. Metroid other M sold under a million on a 100M+ userbase. It did worse but doesn't get as much hate as DmC. Other M is thw worst selling mainline metroid title.

Also strange how they don't add RE4 sales up. It's @ 5.8 if you add all 3 versions. But probably well ove 6 million if you include the 360/Ps3 digital sales and PC sales.
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#231 | ZFS | Posted 8/25/2013 10:53:00 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Badass Decline Theory really people did you not see Solid Snake


No kidding. GameFAQs is awfully selective about their badass characters if this is supposed to be a thing.
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#232 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/25/2013 10:53:07 AM | message detail
Dante looked like nothing had changed after Round 1. This match is preeetty weird.
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#233 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 10:54:03 AM | message detail
Big Boss is also a near-equal to Luigi, and he's just the Badass Version of Solid Snake. Dante can fail for reasons outside of crazy Smurf theories people
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#234 | swordz9 | Posted 8/25/2013 10:55:11 AM | message detail
To be fair I have never played Castlevania so without it saying Alucard I would never even be able to spot him in matches.
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#235 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 10:56:40 AM | message detail
Yeah but people care about MGS characters for reasons outside design and marketing. There's a strong attachment to those guys that characters like Dante and Kratos simply don't have. I'm hoping that Leon has that attachment with voters because RE4 was just such a landmark game, but who knows. I'm honestly far more worried about the RE6 picture than anything else. A few people already commented on not being able to recognize the guy, and that scared me. If he had gotten RE4 art, I'd take him for first and breathe easy about it.
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#236 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/25/2013 10:57:32 AM | message detail
I forgot who dante even faced.

Hes basically known to obliterate fodder,and thats about it
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#237 | Sorozone | Posted 8/25/2013 10:57:37 AM | message detail
Obvious answer for this result is the combination of Pokemon revenge vote, bad DmC game, some weird Sony overlap, a day match, and pic factor. Yes.
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#238 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/25/2013 10:57:58 AM | message detail
Kibago posted...
yeah, Jigglypuff is a decent anti-hivemind argument. she has Smash and a huge anime role and she still sucked.

Squirtle could be as high as the #2 pokemon, though I wouldn't personally take him there. no one should be surprised that he has strength.


I heard that Jigglypuff is generally hated outside Japan. Then again, it was from TV Tropes.

I can't imagine Squirtle being weaker than someone like Charmander or Bulbasaur. I just get the feeling that Squirtle is way more well-known than any Pokemon we haven't gotten into a contest. Brawl doesn't help.
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#239 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 11:01:07 AM | message detail | (edited)
I'm not kidding when I say I couldn't recognize Leon. And I'm a massive fan of his. He is in very real danger of being upset, but it's not because of Badass Decline Theory. Leon isn't even really a badass! He's a goofball.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2yrRPOSiUE Seriously LISTEN to the guy
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#240 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/25/2013 10:58:32 AM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
Does Leon ever wear sunglasses? If so the R3 pic should be sunglasses themed with all 3 wearing them.


Do binoculars pass for sunglasses?
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#241 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 8/25/2013 10:58:35 AM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
Snake hasn't had any good competition yet this contest. I mean Alucard is decent enough, but I think that weird feminine eyes closed pic he got wasn't very good.


You serious?Alucard is recognizable with that picture, that's all. No one's gonna anti-vote or refuse to vote for him just his eyes seemed weird.
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#242 | swordz9 | Posted 8/25/2013 10:58:46 AM | message detail
Shoenin_Kakashi posted...
I forgot who dante even faced.

Hes basically known to obliterate fodder,and thats about it

He faced Laharl and Raz in R1 lol.
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#243 | Link versus Cloud | Posted 8/25/2013 10:59:48 AM | message detail
damn well there goes my experts oh well was in the running for a good amount of time this time. Disappointed this isnt even a match and is just an ass kicking though.
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#244 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 11:01:22 AM | message detail
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God this looks uglier than when I first looked at it. And look at Gordon freakin Freeman. He is COMMANDING you to vote for him. ughhh
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#245 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 11:02:02 AM | message detail
where's the code for Expert Challenge rankings, I want to see where I am now
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#246 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/25/2013 11:02:22 AM | message detail
Oh yeah, he did beat laharl(again)

Man, dante is the biggest punk bully in this
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#247 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2013 11:02:40 AM | message detail
Quite a surprise

Also nothing broke into the top 10 from the last match
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#248 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/25/2013 11:02:52 AM | message detail
Who made that Leon pic?
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#249 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/25/2013 11:03:43 AM | message detail
Wait, we think Leon/Gordon/Shadow is a debatable thing?

That seemed like the most boring match of the round when I was doing my Crew writeups. I guess people are squeamish about the Leon pic, but Leon > Gordon > Shadow seemed pretty obvious to me.
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#250 | ZFS | Posted 8/25/2013 11:05:21 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5239.jpg


Ha, what. Why is he so dark.
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