Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1129

#101 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/25/2013 9:19:15 AM | message detail
He lost to Ryu

twice
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#102 | Greyfeld | Posted 8/25/2013 9:19:20 AM | message detail
So, who do y'all want to see in an inanimate object contest?
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#103 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 9:19:39 AM | message detail
I also know there's no one to blame but SBAllen and the picsmiths (myself included; I actually wanted to make a Vinnie pic but got lazy), but hopefully this leads to everyone admitting that Mewtwo should have been the big favorite even with a normal Vincent picture.
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#104 | Achromatic | Posted 8/25/2013 9:20:33 AM | message detail
Okay this is starting to look like this is going to be in that range of "respectable, but clear loss" for Dante here.

Not quite god smiting.
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#105 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/25/2013 9:20:43 AM | message detail
Only a 40 vote gain for Squirtle that time. Slowing down a little bit, but it seems like Squirtle should be able to build up a large enough lead to survive any Dante comeback.
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#106 | JustForFun1988 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:20:44 AM | message detail
abdou posted...
At least I am not angry at Draven "ruining" the contest anymore. Heck I think I might rally for him, it sure beats seeing pokemon win


This.
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#107 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/25/2013 9:20:49 AM | message detail
Please please please please please give us Squirtle squad vs Cloud next round.
#108 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/25/2013 9:21:25 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
It's just, jeez people. I've played every Pokemon game but I've also played other games.


And I'm sure Pokemon is among their favourites
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#109 | tgs2 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:22:01 AM | message detail
Dante finally waking up and rising fast.
#110 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 8/25/2013 9:22:24 AM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
Please please please please please give us Squirtle squad vs Cloud next round.


This so hard.
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#111 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 9:23:49 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
It's just, jeez people. I've played every Pokemon game but I've also played other games.


That's the thing with Pokemon. There are probably a good handful of Pokemon entrants that all have around the same strength because they all represent the enormously popular and nostalgic RBY generation. Final Fantasy has relatively clear tiers. Zelda has extremely clear tiers. Same with Mario.

Squirtle
Blastoise
Charizard
Pikachu
Snorlax
Gyarados
Articuno
Zapdos
Mewtwo
Mew

I don't think we can ever conceivably put this group in a tier. None of them is the "hero" or the "villain" or the "comic relief NPC that everyone loves." They're all just beloved Pokemon that are one and the same with RBY. Depending on their opposition, the time of the match, and just the general tenor of the contest, each of them can be the strongest on any given day.
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#112 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/25/2013 9:24:04 AM | message detail
And Pokemon is among my favorites, but I don't vote for every Pokemon in the world because of it. That's a pretty weird mentality to me, especially considering how much everyone here has been complaining about LoL's hivemind.
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#113 | swordz9 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:24:10 AM | message detail
Squirtle beating Cloud would be all kinds of hilarious. It's a shame only the RBY Pokemon are strong, but it's to be expected I guess. I wanted to get other characters into the contest who aren't from Pokemon, but they either didn't make it or already lost. RIP Chie, Yu, Yuri Lowell, etc. I think there are probably 10 or so characters left I like in this contest.
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#114 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/25/2013 9:24:35 AM | message detail
Kibago posted...
Bulbasaur people just like him/want to finish the set, right? there's no way he's stronger than Charizard or Squirtle (and I'd be stunned if he beat Pikachu.)


Bulbasaur could be as strong as Squirtle. Blastoise may be stronger than Squirtle. Charmander should be stronger than Squirtle. Charizard should still be the strongest, though.

Nanis23 posted...
Anyone still doubt Mewtwo being the chance to stop Draven?
This is Squirtle with no rally beating the near-elite Dante and making him look like a joke
Just imagine Mewtwo with a internet-wide rally and be afraid


Draven faction holds a majority of the votes. Squirtle could be getting 100% here and would still be a lock to lose to Draven.
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#115 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:24:45 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
And Pokemon is among my favorites, but I don't vote for every Pokemon in the world because of it. That's a pretty weird mentality to me, especially considering how much everyone here has been complaining about LoL's hivemind.


hey now, Lugia and Jigglypuff flopped hard
#116 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:24:57 AM | message detail
With Squirtle looking so good, should try the other starters Charmander and Bulbasaur. I'd be amazed if they were much weaker than him.
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#117 | xp1337 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:25:58 AM | message detail | (edited)
Can you imagine how ripped off Snake could get in the doomsday scenario?

Cloud loses to Squirtle, costs Snake a chance to beat him down, probably decisively.
Crono loses to Pikachu, ensuring Snake doesn't even get a Noble Niner to beat in that match. Have Charizard win to the finals and he doesn't get one period.
Link loses to Draven, costs Snake not only a very possible win against Link but the contest outright.

i almost feel bad for him if that all happens
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#118 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/25/2013 9:26:28 AM | message detail
Lugia is an entrant that only got in because of a guru choice mistake that was later rescinded. He got 60% in his first match and broke 30% on Cloud. That's a flop?
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#119 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:26:41 AM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
Draven faction holds a majority of the votes. Squirtle could be getting 100% here and would still be a lock to lose to Draven.


the idea is that Pokemon is one of the most rally-friendly entries left, meaning that we are drawing outside of gamefaqs' voter base
#120 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/25/2013 9:27:05 AM | message detail
Damnit. If only I'd bought into PokeFEAR. GG, bracket.
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#121 | pjbasis | Posted 8/25/2013 9:27:10 AM | message detail
I did consider Squirtle winning too, so if Dante can get close to him this will be an ok result.

I just don't like the lobsidedness
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#122 | Kibago | Posted 8/25/2013 9:27:42 AM | message detail
yeah, Jigglypuff is a decent anti-hivemind argument. she has Smash and a huge anime role and she still sucked.

Squirtle could be as high as the #2 pokemon, though I wouldn't personally take him there. no one should be surprised that he has strength.
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#123 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:27:58 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Lugia is an entrant that only got in because of a guru choice mistake that was later rescinded. He got 60% in his first match and broke 30% on Cloud. That's a flop?


Ridley nearly broke 30% on Cloud, and he's probably even weakened since 2010
so yes, being around Ridley level is a flop
#124 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/25/2013 9:28:01 AM | message detail
KP you make no sense.

It's Squirtle, not some random like Muk
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#125 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/25/2013 9:28:22 AM | message detail
Squirtle squad Squirtle has the biggest change of a bandwagon/rally outside of Gary Oak. I dont see Mewtwo or Pikachu getting a bandwagon but SQUIRTLE SQUAD F YEAH!

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#126 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 9:28:40 AM | message detail
Considering he could be the strongest Pokemon post-RBY and still lost easily to Frog, yeah it's not all that great. RBY stuff is so much stronger. Remember Lucario also bombed HARD. Pokemon entrants should be restricted to RBY.
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#127 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/25/2013 9:30:08 AM | message detail
do we lol Crono now or lol Crono later
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#128 | swordz9 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:30:15 AM | message detail
Does Leon ever wear sunglasses? If so the R3 pic should be sunglasses themed with all 3 wearing them.
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#129 | Myst-Vearn | Posted 8/25/2013 9:30:35 AM | message detail
at least this makes Ramza look good
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#130 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:30:44 AM | message detail
I don't think it's just RBY, though that's surely a big part of it - it's also the nostalgia that the whole phenomenon is wrapped up with for a lot of people. Cards, movies, anime, posters, toys etc.
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#131 | xp1337 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:31:52 AM | message detail
I don't particularly like all these Pokemon in the contest, but Squirtle is kind of a tough sell to take the fall for it.

Whether I like it or not, the RBY starters (I guess count Charizard in here) + Pikachu and Mewtwo have legitimate strength. We should just leave it there! No Lugia or Jigglypuff, etc.!
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#132 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/25/2013 9:32:02 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Considering he could be the strongest Pokemon post-RBY and still lost easily to Frog, yeah it's not all that great. RBY stuff is so much stronger. Remember Lucario also bombed HARD. Pokemon entrants should be restricted to RBY.


Mudkip is probably stronger than Lugia.
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#133 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 9:32:14 AM | message detail
That nostalgia is all RBY-era, though. The cards, the cartoons, the toys - all that stuff was at its height in the late 90s, and RBY was the driver.
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#134 | Kibago | Posted 8/25/2013 9:32:14 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Considering he could be the strongest Pokemon post-RBY and still lost easily to Frog, yeah it's not all that great. RBY stuff is so much stronger. Remember Lucario also bombed HARD. Pokemon entrants should be restricted to RBY.


Gardevo...erm, R/S/E (non-meme variety) deserves one crack just so we can see where it is and it has a good potential strength range to burn brackets. but in terms of looking for actual strength, it's R/B/Y and nothing else.
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#135 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/25/2013 9:32:25 AM | message detail
I simply expected a little less...homogeneity to the Pokemon fanbase's voting patterns. Probably wishful thinking on my part.
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#136 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:33:17 AM | message detail
Nathan Drake so screwed.

ALL HAIL BLUE!
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#137 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:34:02 AM | message detail
Oh yeah, it's all from that era, but I'm just saying it's not only the games that are propelling this.
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#138 | xp1337 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:34:13 AM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Nathan Drake so screwed.

ALL HAIL BLUE!

This will turn out to be the one correct thing my bracket did regarding Pokemon!
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#139 | Achromatic | Posted 8/25/2013 9:34:50 AM | message detail
Squirtle with no mercy.

Go Crono.
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#140 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/25/2013 9:35:18 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
I simply expected a little less...homogeneity to the Pokemon fanbase's voting patterns. Probably wishful thinking on my part.


But they're all just Pokemon. They're a group, they're a team, they fight for you. Just as Dante is built to exterminate fodder, the Pokemon are built for homowhatever.

To that point, I still think we might see strength disparity regarding the actual trainers. I still fear for Red against Wrex. Hell, I still think LMFAONathan Drake has a somewhat plausible shot against Blue.
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#141 | swordz9 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:37:01 AM | message detail
I don't always vote Pokemon, but I have voted for most of them this contest. I usually vote them if they're against characters I don't know or like or have upset potential. I like Zidane more than Squirtle, but I voted for Squirtle in the chance he could beat Dante.
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#142 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/25/2013 9:37:20 AM | message detail
Just because 'they're Pokemon' doesn't mean you have to vote for all of them, all the time! These voting patterns are so 'drone'-ish that they put Link's to shame. I'm not sure I'll ever be able to complain about Zelda fans ever again after seeing this contest.
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#143 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/25/2013 9:37:35 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
Draven faction holds a majority of the votes. Squirtle could be getting 100% here and would still be a lock to lose to Draven.


the idea is that Pokemon is one of the most rally-friendly entries left, meaning that we are drawing outside of gamefaqs' voter base


That may be true, but it doesn't mean they are anywhere near the level of LoL.

Kibago posted...
yeah, Jigglypuff is a decent anti-hivemind argument. she has Smash and a huge anime role and she still sucked.

Squirtle could be as high as the #2 pokemon, though I wouldn't personally take him there. no one should be surprised that he has strength.


Is it really possible for Squirlte to be more popular than Charmander? It doesn't really feel right to me.
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#144 | Kibago | Posted 8/25/2013 9:37:35 AM | message detail
Squirtle not conceding all of his percentage just yet
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#145 | -Zelmor- | Posted 8/25/2013 9:38:09 AM | message detail
If it turns out to be a close match, rabid Pokemon fanbase will just rally behind Pikachu.

gg Crono
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#146 | xp1337 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:39:06 AM | message detail
I'd take Charmander > Squirtle.

purely on personal preference. not analyzing it past that.
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#147 | Greyfeld | Posted 8/25/2013 9:39:28 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Nathan Drake so screwed.

ALL HAIL BLUE!

This will turn out to be the one correct thing my bracket did regarding Pokemon!


The sucky thing is, I have Blue winning over Fox in my bracket, but I let the crew convince me that Fox would have enough raw strength to win the match, so that's what I took in my Expert. Fortunately, I have him winning round 2 as well, so I won't be losing any points there.
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#148 | xp1337 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:39:39 AM | message detail
-Zelmor- posted...
If it turns out to be a close match, rabid Pokemon fanbase will just rally behind Pikachu.

gg Crono

They better hope it's not close at the end!
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#149 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/25/2013 9:40:18 AM | message detail
Squirtle rocketing back up now. I'm not sure how to explain that.
#150 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/25/2013 9:41:21 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
-Zelmor- posted...
If it turns out to be a close match, rabid Pokemon fanbase will just rally behind Pikachu.

gg Crono

They better hope it's not close at the end!


Right? Nobody outstuffs CT in close matches, Pika better blow it up
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