Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1129

#451 | The Mana Sword | Posted 8/25/2013 6:09:36 PM | message detail
stop trying to give Crono fans false hope you jerks
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#452 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/25/2013 6:12:25 PM | message detail
Hey, it's not false hope. Even if he has a shot against Cloud, he doesn't have a shot against Pikachu!
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#453 | Lilligant | Posted 8/25/2013 6:15:35 PM | message detail
From: The_Djoker | #264
IF he was never in smash Pikachu would fall behind several pokemon.

I disagree; even within its own series (in almost every form of media) Pikachu is still pushed as the "mascot" of Pokemon. Smash doesn't affect Pikachu as much as it does to some other Pokemon.
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#454 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 6:26:57 PM | message detail | (edited)
Yeah, Pikachu is pretty much a lock in my mind. If Crono gets past him, Blue will be arguably even harder because Sora won't fold.

If Crono can get past both, right now I'm thinking he has a great shot against Cloud. Because that would definitely indicate a big CT boost.
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#455 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/25/2013 6:30:53 PM | message detail
We're talking Crono>Cloud now. This is insane. Does that mean we're putting Cloud and Seph at the bottom of the NN chain? Or is Sonic still down there? And maybe MM too.
#456 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/25/2013 6:38:53 PM | message detail
I don't think Sora will hurt Crono at all. Sora has less to do with Crono than Cloud did with Frog.
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#457 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/25/2013 6:46:39 PM | message detail
So what's going to happen with Sora/Pikachu/Blue if it comes to that?
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#458 | DSRKVRTheDealer | Posted 8/25/2013 6:47:16 PM | message detail
Sora > Blue > Pikachu
#459 | Sorozone | Posted 8/25/2013 6:51:56 PM | message detail
Sora probably takes it, but it wouldn't surprise me if Blue or Pikachu ended up winning.
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#460 | swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2013 6:57:11 PM | message detail
Sora takes it through Pokemon LFF.

Because if Sora can't do that, he should be embarassed.
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#461 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 6:58:48 PM | message detail
I do think Cloud was hurt a bit by Frog relative to Lugia, even if he couldn't SFF him. That just means Lugia is really bad (which we should have already known), but Cloud's performance isn't bad because of Lugia, it's because of Frog.
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#462 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/25/2013 7:02:21 PM | message detail
Frog RSFFed Cloud
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#463 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 7:06:34 PM | message detail
But yeah Frog put up more on Cloud than Crono would have been expected to, indirectly, in some of our past years. So uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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#464 | Sorozone | Posted 8/25/2013 7:07:20 PM | message detail
That's because Frog is a bad man.
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#465 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/25/2013 7:07:55 PM | message detail
Frog=Crono this year

Believe
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#466 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2013 7:09:04 PM | message detail
Match XCVI: (16) Shadow the Hedgehog vs. (4) Leon Kennedy vs. (7) Gordon Freeman

Previous Round

Shadow the Hedgehog – 49.76%
Yu Narukami – 32.59%
Kat – 17.65%

Leon Kennedy – 51.21%
Albert Wesker – 28.06%
Oliver – 20.73%

Gordon Freeman – 54.64%
Simon Belmont – 30.54%
Hades – 14.83%

Analysis

In a normal match each character is just far away from each other to not make it interesting, but they are close enough that should one of them have a change of strength that we have been seeing this round we could see an upset. Despite not getting much information out of last round I still feel confident that Leon will win the match. I did not expect much SFF between Leon and Wesker despite both being from the same series, Wesker is quite loved in his own right and even then Leon pulled about as much as Ganondorf was expected to get.

I have the least faith in Gordon Freeman in retaining his strength as more people become more impatient on waiting for Half-Life 3. On the other hand he did look decent last round easily outscoring Ezio on Simon Belmont. Whether Belmont has remained around the same strength is to be seen, but it is clear that Freeman has not dropped back down to his old days.

Shadow seems to be a bit underrated by the board, though considering he has not had a decent performance since 2003 I do not blame them. Still while losing to Zidane and Amaterasu is a bit embarrassing it does not mean he has no strength. While I believe he will come third I feel he may impress a few people.

I am going to go with the expected outcome, but with the way this round has been going I would not be surprised if one of these characters flopped or over performed. Too bad Dante lost early, this is the second contest in a row where Dante lost early which prevented another Dante/Leon rematch.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Leon Kennedy > Gordon Freeman and Shadow the Hedgehog

charmander6000’s Prediction: Leon Kennedy – 40.46%, Gordon Freeman – 33.56%, Shadow the Hedgehog – 25.98%
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#467 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 7:14:50 PM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
Frog=Crono this year

Believe


If Crono loses to Pikachu, this has a very nontrivial chance of happening. Even in adjusted stats.
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#468 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/25/2013 7:42:04 PM | message detail
Out of curiosity, where do we think Pikachu lands on the Pokemon hierarchy?

Personally, I definitely don't take him over Charizard; and after today, I'm not sure if I take him over Squirtle. While Pikachu is the mascot of the franchise, I'm not sure how many people honestly consider him one of their favorite Pokemon. On the flip side, you really can't understate the sentimental attachments people have to the original starters.
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#469 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/25/2013 7:50:42 PM | message detail | (edited)
I like to think that Pikachu's problem is that he doesn't represent only RBY, but the entire series. So he will attract anti-votes from those who see him as the face of the "milking" of the franchise. So there's nothing nostalgic about Pikachu, unlike Charizard and Squirtle.
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#470 | UItimaterializer | Posted 8/25/2013 7:50:32 PM | message detail
Late in saying this, but I told you people Dante would lose no matter which picture he got. Outside that one 4way year where he went nuts, I have never picked a match of his wrong.

Was not expecting such a murder though, holy crap. Zidane giving Dante a match if you remove Squirtle strikes me as hilarious.

Also, play DMC3 if you haven't. Amazing amazing game, worth a try. KP's topic spoke true!
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#471 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/25/2013 8:09:12 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Squall was hated while Luigi was suppose to challenge Samus.

What made it even worse was Luigi was leading for the first 15 minutes before falling off the cliff.


That was what made Squall/Luigi great!

Especially since we had 15 minute updates instead of 5 minute updates, so we had 15 minutes of people harassing nanasilencer.

Then that second update came, and Squall was not only winning, he was already WAY ahead and on his way to an easy victory.

Thus Fanta Shokata was born.
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#472 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/25/2013 8:14:42 PM | message detail
So I'm kind of surprised that nobody's mentioned the possibility of whatever's happening to these FFVII guys possibly happening to Squall, too. I mean, his first round match is totally inconclusive because there's no way of telling how strong Rayman is.

But FFIX and FFX have looked fine, so this could just be everyone ganging up on poor ol' FFVII.

Still paranoid about something weird happening in that Squall match though (and not even just from Missingno at this point...!).
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#473 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 8:15:31 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
So I'm kind of surprised that nobody's mentioned the possibility of whatever's happening to these FFVII guys possibly happening to Squall, too. I mean, his first round match is totally inconclusive because there's no way of telling how strong Rayman is.

But FFIX and FFX have looked fine, so this could just be everyone ganging up on poor ol' FFVII.

Still paranoid about something weird happening in that Squall match though (and not even just from Missingno at this point...!).


AmmyFEAR :P
#474 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/25/2013 8:16:49 PM | message detail
#475 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 8:19:20 PM | message detail
Auron will be a fine gauge of Squall against L-Block and Ezio. Ezio is somewhat comparable to Ammy (whipped on Tails, Ammy is a little bit better than Shadow) and L-Block is a weaker version of Missingno. If he impresses there I don't think Squall should slip up.
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#476 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/25/2013 8:20:54 PM | message detail
Match result is good one for Squall says stats topic regular
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#477 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 8:24:14 PM | message detail
not particularly relevant, but what happens if you put MAX predictions on all 3 characters in the spread topic and miss all 3
(now that I mention it, I should probably just look at the Draven/MMX/Ryu results....)
#478 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 8:25:35 PM | message detail
Hey, the opposite might happen too. Auron's got a lot to prove after looking bad last round, excuses or not, and has no reason to look even a little bad this round. Unless he gets pic sabotaged that's gonna be a key litmus test.
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#479 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/25/2013 8:25:50 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
not particularly relevant, but what happens if you put MAX predictions on all 3 characters in the spread topic and miss all 3
(now that I mention it, I should probably just look at the Draven/MMX/Ryu results....)


You just lose all your money. If you are under $500, you lose $500 and gain some debt as you are brought back to $0.
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#480 | creativename | Posted 8/25/2013 8:27:13 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Yeah, Pikachu is pretty much a lock in my mind. If Crono gets past him, Blue will be arguably even harder because Sora won't fold.

If Crono can get past both, right now I'm thinking he has a great shot against Cloud. Because that would definitely indicate a big CT boost.

Why would Blue be harder for Crono to get past than Pikachu with Magus there...? And what's Sora got to do with anything?

KH,I don't know how to tell you this, but I...I think you're losing your mind.
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#481 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 8:28:00 PM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
not particularly relevant, but what happens if you put MAX predictions on all 3 characters in the spread topic and miss all 3
(now that I mention it, I should probably just look at the Draven/MMX/Ryu results....)


You just lose all your money. If you are under $500, you lose $500 and gain some debt as you are brought back to $0.


ah, actually reading the rules helps!
#482 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/25/2013 8:28:39 PM | message detail
The idea would be Sora is also Square and won't get SFF'd into the ground so he would hurt Crono more than Magus would.
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#483 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 8:28:53 PM | message detail
You guys will see. I'll be vindicated!

...well, no I won't, because Crono is going to lose to the Pokemon in depressing fashion. But I would have been.
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#484 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/25/2013 8:31:26 PM | message detail
I dunno. I always get paranoid that Squall being at the top of the near elites isn't going to last, especially as FF continues to decline.

C'mon we need KH3 with another huge role for Squall
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#485 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/25/2013 8:34:53 PM | message detail
Poor Leon. Forced to vote for Kingdom hearts cameo appearances in 2013
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#486 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2013 8:35:32 PM | message detail
The KH spinoffs have done absolutely jack for contest strengths here. Heck if anything they've just made people even more ticked off at Square. KH3 will definitely be something but the fact that it's been seven years since KH2 is not encouraging at all.

I feel like we're in a dark age of gaming. Why can't any company seem to get it right?
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#487 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/25/2013 8:38:22 PM | message detail
I actually like Kingdom Hearts though...!

The fact that Squall can't get cameos in these spinoffs is a little bothersome for me!

Squall's kind of in an interesting position. He's involved in just about anything Square does nowadays with FF, so he stays relevant and he's not associated with an FF that wins all the time, even though a lot of people don't like it. Europe getting a higher percentage of the votes helps Squall, too, since he's much more popular there than here.
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#488 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/25/2013 8:38:23 PM | message detail
More like the dark age of this website. RIP Character Battles
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#489 | RockMFR | Posted 8/25/2013 8:49:26 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
Brock would beat all of those and be N9.

Has there ever been a nom rally for him?
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#490 | creativename | Posted 8/25/2013 8:49:28 PM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
The idea would be Sora is also Square and won't get SFF'd into the ground so he would hurt Crono more than Magus would.

Chrono Trigger/Kingdom Hearts LFF?

As I feared, he is indeed losing his mind.
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#491 | creativename | Posted 8/25/2013 8:56:07 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I feel like we're in a dark age of gaming. Why can't any company seem to get it right?

More like the dark ages of JRPGs, Zelda, and Mario.

JRPGs peaked a decade+ ago, Zelda has done decent but nothing special lately (Twilight Princess was a disappointment, nobody played Skyward Sword), and Mario has games like Galaxy and Galaxy 2 that get rave reviews yet for some reason just can't get traction on this site.

Considering this site has always thrived on Big Nintendo franchises+JRPGs, no wonder we've been run over rampant by Pokemon lately. Pokemon are just basically the default option! Everything else the site likes is doing crappy.

We're actually in a golden age of Western gaming, but LOL Western gaming on this site. Mass Effect, Elder Scrolls and God of War are really the only ones to make a dent, and Kratos seems to be sinking without games, while Elder Scrolls has LOL customizable protagonists. ME is the only series doing anything with regard to these contests.
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#492 | Qwaar | Posted 8/25/2013 8:58:08 PM | message detail
So, I've gone for Leon -> Freeman -> Shadow, but I'm not totally confident that Gordon will get second.
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#493 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/25/2013 8:59:11 PM | message detail
Will Shepard be in later Mass Effect games in any major role? If not, he may be on his way out as well.
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#494 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:00:25 PM | message detail
GFAW


Shadow the Hedgehog
16.67%
1 Votes

Leon Kennedy
33.33%
2 Votes

Gordon Freeman
50%
3 Votes
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#495 | paulg235 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:00:28 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted
Shadow the Hedgehog
28.13%
9 Votes
Your Pick
Leon Kennedy
37.5%
12 Votes
Gordon Freeman
34.38%
11 Votes
Total Votes: 32
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#496 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/25/2013 9:00:34 PM | message detail
Huh, this is pretty close!

Wonder who's got the board vote.
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#497 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:00:42 PM | message detail
dat 31-all tie
#498 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/25/2013 9:00:43 PM | message detail
Go Shadow!
#499 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/25/2013 9:00:48 PM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
Will Shepard be in later Mass Effect games in any major role? If not, he may be on his way out as well.


Nope, BioWare said no more Shep.
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#500 | raytan7585 | Posted 8/25/2013 9:00:54 PM | message detail
Shadow the Hedgehog
27.27%
3 Votes

Leon Kennedy
36.36%
4 Votes
Your Pick

Gordon Freeman
36.36%
4 Votes
Total Votes: 11
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