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We haven't hit the dead of night when CT truly dies yet. Cloud's going to start skyrocketing soon. --- http://www.miscupload.com/upload/452457071929141623517416.gif |
Yeah,
that too - Hour Three for CT is almost over, and Cloud's percentage
stalls such as they are have entirely been the fault of Frog. That's
about to change in a big way. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Anyway,
my point is that the Seph/BB/Kirby match seems pretty clear-cut to me.
Seph's strength has to have fallen off a cliff to lose to BB, and BB
has already proven to be a tier over Kirby. And I don't see any way any
of them SFF each other. --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
When
exactly has BB proven to be a tier above Kirby? I thought almost
managing to lose to a handicapped Luigi was actually a bad performance
for him. Nintendo usually looks horrible when they have to split that
vote, and I expected Boss to surge to an easy win. The fact that he
barely did it disappointed me. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif |
Greyfeld posted... Anyway, my point is that the Seph/BB/Kirby match seems pretty clear-cut to me. Seph's strength has to have fallen off a cliff to lose to BB, and BB has already proven to be a tier over Kirby. And I don't see any way any of them SFF each other. I still don't see BB a tier above Kirby. Kirby and Luigi are pretty close, there's no Nintendo LFF in the way, and we've seen Kirby tear up multiway polls before because he always seems to stick out. I think this match could easily go six different ways since we still don't know exactly how far Seph has fallen. --- Hey I just met you, and this is crazy, but you have died of dysentery. |
Yes, but you have to give Ness an unrealistic percentage for Luigi to easily win a day match. And this is probably a stronger Luigi than we've seen for a while, one who's stronger than Kirby. Big Boss may not be a "tier" above, but he was better in 2008. For as much as you harp on "Kirby stood out like crazy in 2008," the only reason he even beat Big Boss in round 2 despite standing out like crazy was because Raiden was there. Without Raiden, Big Boss wins that match, even with an old man pic, to boot. And this is probably a stronger Big Boss now than we saw in 2008. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Nintendo
looks bad when they have to deal with significant fanbase splits. Ness
was almost an afterthought - even giving Luigi an overwhelming amount of
his votes doesn't change it much. And favoring him more than 70/30
isn't even really feasible - even Bowser's split with Luigi wasn't that
favorable. Not that I didn't also consider that disappointing for BB, but he can actually still win that match in 24 hours. MGS keeps getting thrown in day setups and making people forget what FNV monsters they truly are. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Amazing performance from Cloud. --- Fine! I'll go to the store and get your Goddamn drain cleaner! Character Battle IX Tingle Victory Parade - the journey is over.... |
And I've gotta say, sorry if this sounds douchy, but it feels quite
good to already be vindicated with my Kirby > Seph prediction,
because people are now talking it up as a realistic possibility. I'm one
of two Gurus with that risk, and people called me crazy pre-contest. If
it pays off, it'll probably be the best I've ever felt about a "call." --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
ChenKenichiFan posted... When exactly has BB proven to be a tier above Kirby? I thought almost managing to lose to a handicapped Luigi was actually a bad performance for him. Nintendo usually looks horrible when they have to split that vote, and I expected Boss to surge to an easy win. The fact that he barely did it disappointed me. You missed my post where 2010 BB/Luigi is 48/52 in Luigi's favor. The match lines up exactly with the 2010 xstats, assuming Ness's votes split in favor of Luigi. That said, I'm looking at Kirby 2010 right now, and it's a little hard to get an idea of how strong he's supposed to be. He got adjusted upward by 5% for losing to Sonic, and I'm not sure how legitimate his adjusted strength is. I mean, he barely doubled Crash, but the xstats show him to comfortably triple Crash in 2010. So I retract what I said about being an obvious tier difference, but Kirby's stats are definitely a little wonky. --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
2010 Kirby still doesn't beat 2010 Seph. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
It's
been three years since the last contest and it's a crapshoot-style
multiway format. There are relatively few upsets that don't have a
certain amount of logic to them, and people not recognizing that is the
real crazy thing. ...though if you're expressing catharsis at being talked down to about a pick I hope you remember that if Dante ends up winning later today! --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
And
I've gotta say, sorry if this sounds douchy, but it feels quite good to
already be vindicated with my Kirby > Seph prediction, because
people are now talking it up as a realistic possibility. I'm one of two
Gurus with that risk, and people called me crazy pre-contest. If it pays
off, it'll probably be the best I've ever felt about a "call." Its not a realistic possibility, sorry. It is impossible for seph to lose a 24 hour match versus kirby. |
LeonhartFour posted... 2010 Kirby still doesn't beat 2010 Seph. Of course not. Like I said, Seph will have to have fallen off a cliff to bungle his match. --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
I'm not gonna say anything to Dante supporters. Okay, only the ones who inevitably complain about his picture again, but they'll have deserved it. My bracket's bust anyway since it seems pretty unlikely that Cloud has the muscle to contend with Snake (last time, Snake was the one who needed favorable circumstances - this time it's Cloud), but Kirby > Seph will still taste so sweet. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
The
reason I'm not as high on Kirby is because I think he's a relative
fraud in 2010. Not because it's his fault, but because of Sonic -
that Link thrashing was very bad and probably obscured his weakness
because of the SFF, but barely doing better than Luigi was a big warning
sign. I'm not as concerned about Kirby > Seph so much as I am Mewtwo > Sonic. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
And
despite being a big Kirby fan, I've had major doubts about his real
strength. I think despite realizing that Kirby beating Sonic was a fluke
(as 2010 proved), he's getting benefit of the doubt like crazy. Also Kirby standing out is part of his inherent strength, honestly. He always has good pics. --- http://gifsoup.com/view/874243/big-boss-o.gif |
Karma Hunter posted... I'm not as concerned about Kirby > Seph so much as I am Mewtwo > Sonic. Eh, I'm not really worried about Mewtwo winning there. Yes, Pokemon resists LFF. Yes, Sonic might overlap with Nintendo and such. But I think that's a favorable setup for Sonic. --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo22vfguji1qzxr43.gif |
Dante's
picture is fine. People like that Dante, a lot. It's not ideal (the one
you made was, honestly, to a lot of credit), but DMC4 Dante is a cool
dude. Squirtle's I still think is better because it's so big and
colorful and in your face compared to the others but Dante's not getting
actively bad pictures which is what the big fear was. And not unwarranted given this contest's track record. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
People are worried about Mewtwo lmao? He's the weakest in the poll. --- nt |
People are always paranoid about Pokemon. --- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrmb8ky9zpsk1qd3518o8250gifyd.gif http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrmb8ky9zpsk1qd3518o6250gifuv.gif |
That's pretty much on par with the best pic Dante can get if anyone's complaining about this they can safely be disregarded. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Personally
I don't trust Kirby at all. I think he'll make it respectable, but I
just can't see him getting a win. Can't see him getting second either. Squirtle scares me a bit, but I still think Dante wins by a comfortable margin. --- |
LeonhartFour posted... Karma Hunter posted...I'm not as concerned about Kirby > Seph so much as I am Mewtwo > Sonic. Why's that? --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
LeonhartFour posted... People are always paranoid about Pokemon. Hey, I had Mewtwo > Vincent (sounds so hollow now), Frog > Lugia, Dante > Squirtle, Pikachu > Crono, and Red in R3. There's a definite method rather than just blanket assuming Pokemon dominance - and in this case it's just me not trusting Sonic. I would have felt SO much better if Sonic/Ganondorf 2010 was a non-sprite match but it's just worthless to me as is. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Bowser
and Mewtwo will hurt each other, despite how much Pokemon resists
getting SFF'd. The fact that Mewtwo and Bowser WON'T fold to each other
hurts either's chances. And Charizard needed a game released on the day of his match and some bandwagon power to beat Bowser in 2010 and Mewtwo ain't beating the Zard. 60% on Phoenix Wright still isn't that great of a performance, no matter how you slice it. And I think Sonic's looked fine in this contest anyway. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Karma Hunter posted... I would have felt SO much better if Sonic/Ganondorf 2010 was a non-sprite match but it's just worthless to me as is. Eh, I don't think LTTP Ganon is nearly as detrimental to his strength as LoZ Bacondorf is. I think Sonic wins pretty comfortably regardless of the pic. I mean, it's not ideal for Ganon's strength, obviously, but I haven't thought of him as "Noble Nine breaking tier" for a while now. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
LeonhartFour posted... Bowser and Mewtwo will hurt each other, despite how much Pokemon resists getting SFF'd. The fact that Mewtwo and Bowser WON'T fold to each other hurts either's chances. You think there's any chance that Bowser gets hurt enough to let Mewtwo sneak into second? --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
I guess Mewtwo could. Bowser let Luigi trounce him in 2008 without putting up a fight. Still not a real believer in Mewtwo's strength yet. That Vincent/Phoenix match doesn't really mean much of anything because we can't see what Mewtwo would've gotten in a fair setting. --- Guess who I am! http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1345748_o.gif |
Frog almost cut cloud, heh |
Cloud
looking bad here, but him vs Snake was already pretty much a lost cause
before this. Snake would probably beat 2010 Cloud at this point. Cloud likely finishes with 50%. Also what's with KH calling Pikachu a lock...Crono should be the slight favorite, let alone a lock to lose? This confuses me. ChenKenichiFan posted... And I've gotta say, sorry if this sounds douchy, but it feels quite good to already be vindicated with my Kirby > Seph prediction, because people are now talking it up as a realistic possibility. I'm one of two Gurus with that risk, and people called me crazy pre-contest. If it pays off, it'll probably be the best I've ever felt about a "call." Spoilers: it won't pay off Kirby be real lucky to avoid last there. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Sonic - 41 Bowser 36 Mewtwo - 23 poll will look something like that --- nt |
How far are we on that contest bingo? --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
What do you guys think Snake would put on Link if they 1v1d this year? |
I'm
not trying to play up my personal thinking that Pika's a lock! If
anything you should all be manning the gates and making sure you wring
out every last vote to save Crono. You got 90,000 votes in a day match
to nearly save him from the glitch, you should be able to fight just as
hard this time! lol I'm probably voting for Magus --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Pikachu is our only hope at stopping Draven. He slew the Block. He can slay the Draven. save_us.rat --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
LeonhartFour posted... I guess Mewtwo could. Bowser let Luigi trounce him in 2008 without putting up a fight. Don't know that I'd say Bowser got trounced. Looks more like the votes split between Bowser and Luigi, and the LFF let Liquid sneak into first place. Both characters completely wreck Liquid in any 1v1 scenario, and Luigi/Bowser went 55/45 in that match. --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
Well,
I mean "trounce" in the Ulti sense of the word, in that Luigi won
without Bowser even so much as contending to beat him. He was losing to Phoenix Wright for a few hours in that match. --- http://i.imgur.com/kCpvD.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... Pikachu is our only hope at stopping Draven. He slew the Block. He can slay the Draven. You know who else blew the Block. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110612201408/chrono/images/7/78/Crono_FMV4.jpg --- And I would do anything for bets, but I won't do that! No I won't do that! I am Sir Chris, the Knight that says NICK!!! |
I'm
a firm believer that Luigi/Bowser '08 was distorted SFF, if only
mildly. The fight in Nintendoland's mind was Liquid versus the best
perceived Nintendo option (and hiveminded Luigi), and Bowser got
relatively left in the dust as a result. He would have made it closer
1v1. Maybe not today (they seem to have continued going in opposite directions), but yeah. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
LeonhartFour posted... Pikachu is our only hope at stopping Draven. He slew the Block. He can slay the Draven. Crono did more of the Block slaying TBQH! But let's not let facts cloud our judgement. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Oh,
I think that match is closer 1-on-1 back then, but Bowser for some
reason has looked shaky against near elite Nintendo guys head to head.
Remember after he nearly scored 60% on Ryu in 2005, he barely got 52% on
Kirby the next round. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
If we had a new villains contest, what would be the biggest changes from '05 and what new faces would make waves? Also, how does the finals go down? --- Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die. |
You guys really think Crono is going to get bandwagon support? Pffft. It was save_us.rat, not save_us.ginger for a reason --- http://gifsoup.com/view/874243/big-boss-o.gif |
heaven please not another Villains Contest uhhhhhhh Big Boss Wins. <___________________< --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
LeonhartFour posted... You guys really think Crono is going to get bandwagon support? Pffft. That reason being Crono>rat was a given! Crono will get a scare from the rat this time, but I still think he's the fave. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
You'll see. You'll ALL see. that Crono will still win --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
Oh and Kefka would probably clean house in a Villains Contest. Which would be kind of cool to see. (never again) --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
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