Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1128

#201 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/24/2013 9:43:47 PM | message detail
Yeah, I wish Leon had a better picture there. That was a totally non-debatable match to me, but the pic does introduce a sliver of doubt.
#202 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 9:46:11 PM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I can see Shadow conceivably winning. I can see a LOT conceivably winning against that terribad Leon, though smart money's on Gordon.


I can't pick Gordon because I can't believe that Big Daddy is a legit high midcarder. That's about my only logic there.


Big Daddy isn't related to Gordon Freeman. He may have never been stronger than Gordon - he overperformed based on Sephiroth/Missingno backlash. Gordon's performance on Tifa is valid on its own merits.
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#203 | Jakyl25 | Posted 8/24/2013 9:46:19 PM | message detail
God he looks like Jim Breuer in that picture
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#204 | ecksgem | Posted 8/24/2013 9:46:32 PM | message detail
With Vincent bombing, I switched to Frog for second as soon as I saw Lugia's pic. Leon's isn't as bad, but it could be better. Hope it doesn't cost him.
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#205 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 9:47:29 PM | message detail
Geez, not even a dead cat bounce yet. You suck, Lugia.
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#206 | Greyfeld | Posted 8/24/2013 9:51:05 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
I took Lugia because I basically just tried to nail him down for a % as the sole Nintendo rep and figured being a Pokemon on top of that he'd be good for somewhere around 26-30%.

Just needed Cloud to hold up his end and there just wouldn't be enough for Frog to work with.

Looks like I'm going to overguess Lugia and even if I hadn't, Cloud is too low for the logic I was using, though he should recover a bit it's probably going to end up at Lugia's expense.


Cloud's been eating Lugia's percentage for the entire hour. Frog's held out pretty strong the whole time.
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#207 | xp1337 | Posted 8/24/2013 9:51:50 PM | message detail
Well, I know that now. I'm talking about before the match!
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#208 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/24/2013 9:51:57 PM | message detail
TheCodeisBosco posted...
It's really, really hard not to vote for this quote though.

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#209 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/24/2013 9:55:32 PM | message detail | (edited)
Reminder: Frog is at 39% on Cloud and has not even lost ground against him since the first post-freeze update.
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#210 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 9:55:32 PM | message detail
Oh and we can probably throw in the towel for Cloud against Snake, right? Even if Pikachu or something were able to get there Snake hasn't been adversely affected by Nintendo/Pokemon vis-a-vis Cloud before. Neither Cloud/Mewtwo/Snake/WCC or Cloud/Snake/Sephiroth/Kirby seemed to faze him.
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#211 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/24/2013 9:56:08 PM | message detail
I don't think Lugia's picture really hurts it. You can clearly tell that that's Lugia. It's not like Vincent where even FF7 fans may have difficulty making the connection between the picture and the character. Leon's picture look fine to me as well.
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#212 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 9:56:39 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Reminder: Frog is at 39% on Cloud and has not even lost ground against him since the first post-freeze update.


Frog is a big first three hours character, like CT in general. He'll hold up better than people expect for awhile and then just completely tank.
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#213 | Sorozone (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/24/2013 9:57:37 PM | message detail
Cloud's pretty dead no matter what against Snake, yeah.
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#214 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/24/2013 9:57:45 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Oh and we can probably throw in the towel for Cloud against Snake, right? Even if Pikachu or something were able to get there Snake hasn't been adversely affected by Nintendo/Pokemon vis-a-vis Cloud before. Neither Cloud/Mewtwo/Snake/WCC or Cloud/Snake/Sephiroth/Kirby seemed to faze him.


I'd wait and see how Cloud does with the - likely monstrous - night vote before writing him off entirely. But he is definitely the underdog at this point.
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#215 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 9:58:34 PM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
I don't think Lugia's picture really hurts it. You can clearly tell that that's Lugia. It's not like Vincent where even FF7 fans may have difficulty making the connection between the picture and the character. Leon's picture look fine to me as well.


I would never put this on the level of a Vincent, don't get me wrong. But Lugia looks just awful in its picture. It's completely unappealing, and a lot of Pokemon advantage is in their bright colors and appealing design. For many Pokemon, that's ALL they've got.

It doesn't really matter here either way but I expect Lugia to tank pretty hard as the match goes on. Even after the morning hits, just because it's so unappealing.
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#216 | xp1337 | Posted 8/24/2013 9:58:34 PM | message detail
Yeah, I refuse to believe Frog holds that percentage on Cloud, but I don't really know how far he can drop.

Hard for me to try and argue for Cloud > Snake at this point.

all about crono > cloud now
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#217 | Achromatic | Posted 8/24/2013 10:00:44 PM | message detail
I would say this is a good performance for Frog if he avoids a doubling, honestly. Anything more than that and it is great.
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#218 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/24/2013 10:01:31 PM | message detail
Even if Pikachu makes it, I consider Cloud a rather sizable underdog now. FFVII just has not looked good. Some of the that jRPG power has seemingly been siphoned by Old Square or something. Whatever it is, I'm not sure, but Cloud's chances lie in being the last FF/Square entrant left. He still won it last time against Snake when he probably shouldn't have (you'd figure a 53% win over Seph should mean a win over Cloud), and I think he can do it again.

Definitely not the favorite though.
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#219 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/24/2013 10:02:19 PM | message detail
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Closest Matches
1. Kratos Aurion – 20.72% vs. Boko – 20.70% - Round 1 – 0.02%
2. Missingno – 40.58% vs. Tidus – 40.50% - Round 1 – 0.08%
3. Lloyd Irving – 23.62% vs. Big Daddy – 23.45% - Round 1 – 0.17%
4. Elizabeth – 24.48% vs. Crash Bandicoot – 24.24% - Round 2 – 0.24%
5. Alucard – 36.32% vs. Captain Falcon – 35.95% - Round 1 – 0.37%
6. Altair – 29.26% vs. Lara Croft – 28.82% - Round 2 – 0.44%
7. Ike – 35.81% vs. Proto Man – 35.26% - Round 1 – 0.55%
8. Sub-Zero – 29.63% vs. The Boss – 28.87% - Round 2 – 0.76%
9. Recette Lemongrass – 25.28% vs. Travis Touchdown – 24.43% - Round 1 – 0.85%
10. Tharja – 36.21% vs. Tiny Tina – 35.35% - Round 1 – 0.86%
10. Big Boss – 43.63% vs. Luigi – 42.77% - Round 2 – 0.86%

Top 10 Smallest Day Vote Gaps
1. Kratos Aurion – 6063 vs. Boko – 6056 – Round 1 – 7
2. Altair – 8341 vs. Lara Croft – 8216 – Round 2 – 125
3. Ike – 11023 vs. Proto Man – 10854 – Round 1 – 169
4. Sub-Zero – 9605 vs. The Boss – 9359 – Round 2 – 246
5. Recette Lemongrass – 7419 vs. Travis Touchdown – 7167 – Round 1 – 252
6. Big Boss – 14931 vs. Luigi – 14638 – Round 2 – 293
7. Guybrush Threepwood – 4888 vs. Max Payne – 4537 – Round 1 – 351
8. Viewtiful Joe – 7315 vs. Handsome Jack – 6901 – Round 1 – 415
9. Missile – 6138 vs. Sarah Kerrigan – 5654 – Round 1 – 484
10. Catherine – 12092 vs. Neku Sakuraba – 11493 – Round 1 – 599

Top 10 Least Popular Day Polls
1. Amaterasu vs. Vyse vs. Adol Christin – Round 1 – 25586
2. Gilgamesh vs. Booker DeWitt vs. Kaim Argonar – Round 1 – 25976
3. Mr. Game & Watch vs. Lee Everett vs. Meat Boy – Round 1 – 26421
4. Ganondorf vs. Guybrush Threepwood vs. Max Payne – Round 1 – 27065
5. Ness vs. Locke Cole vs. CATS – Round 1 – 27607
6. Magus vs. Otacon vs. Jade Curtiss – Round 1 – 28173
7. Wario vs. Creeper vs. The King of All Cosmos – Round 1 – 28178
8. Leon Kennedy vs. Albert Wesker vs. Oliver – Round 1 – 28303
9. Kefka vs. Altair vs. Lara Croft – Round 2 – 28510
10. Frog vs. Viewtiful Joe vs. Handsome Jack – Round 1 – 28522

Top 10 Least Impressive Day Winners
1. Mr. Game & Watch – Round 1 – 10500
2. Ike – Round 1 – 11023
3. Kefka – Round 1 – 11443
4. Urdnot Wrex – Round 1 – 11842
5. Kefka – Round 2 – 11953
6. Catherine – Round 1 – 12092
7. Ness – Round 1 – 12979
8. Rikku – Round 1 – 12980
9. Altair – Round 1 – 13157
10. Yuna – Round 1 – 13279

Top 10 Least Predictable Matches
1. Draven vs. Mega Man X vs. Ryu – Round 2 – 9.20%
2. Yuna vs. Master Chief vs. Claire Redfield – Round 1 – 15.40%
3. Kefka vs. Altair vs. Lara Croft – Round 2 – 22.13%
4. Urdnot Wrex vs. Cecil Harvey vs. Pit – Round 1 – 23.71%
5. Mr. Game & Watch vs. Lee Everett vs. Meat Boy – Round 1 – 26.40%
6. Catherine vs. Neku Sakaruba vs. Vaas Montenegro – Round 1 – 30.43%
7. Pokemon Trainer Blue vs. Fox McCloud vs. Wolf O’Donnell – Round 1 – 32.98%
8. Big Boss vs. Luigi vs. Ness – Round 2 – 33.61%
9. Mewtwo vs. Phoenix Wright vs. Vincent Valentine – Round 2 – 33.98%
10. Rikku vs. ? Block vs. Lyndis – Round 1 – 35.60%
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#220 | xp1337 | Posted 8/24/2013 10:02:19 PM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
I would say this is a good performance for Frog if he avoids a doubling, honestly. Anything more than that and it is great.

Same, and I'm not sure Cloud can get there.

I mean, if Frog really just crashes, then maybe, but eh.
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#221 | Achromatic | Posted 8/24/2013 10:02:37 PM | message detail
And it becomes rather moot when Crono beats the holy hell out of Pikachu.
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#222 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 10:04:00 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Even if Pikachu makes it, I consider Cloud a rather sizable underdog now. FFVII just has not looked good. Some of the that jRPG power has seemingly been siphoned by Old Square or something. Whatever it is, I'm not sure, but Cloud's chances lie in being the last FF/Square entrant left. He still won it last time against Snake when he probably shouldn't have (you'd figure a 53% win over Seph should mean a win over Cloud), and I think he can do it again.

Definitely not the favorite though.


Snake's 53% was more like a 52% or less in a 24 hour match. Cloud is simply lucky beyond description that he got Samus in his 12 hour night match and not Snake. Snake would not have lost a 12 hour night match.
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#223 | ZFS | Posted 8/24/2013 10:04:23 PM | message detail
Woo go Frog!
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#224 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/24/2013 10:05:11 PM | message detail
Lugia has to be on course to set some sort of record for the largest number of consecutive updates with percentage drops if he keeps on updating in the low 20s.
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#225 | ZFS | Posted 8/24/2013 10:06:39 PM | message detail
Also, this seems terrible for Cloud.
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#226 | ZFS | Posted 8/24/2013 10:08:23 PM | message detail
Or, alternatively, a great result for CT and Old Square! Probably both.
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#227 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/24/2013 10:10:00 PM | message detail
Yeah as expected as it is for Cloud to rise against Frog I doubt he makes it respectable.
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#228 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 10:13:31 PM | message detail
I'm willing to spot Cloud a few percent for it being only a 12 hour match. That means he'd have to drill Frog down to 32-33% on him to make this respectable relative to his 2010 strength. Right now Frog's got 39% so I'm not even sure if that's possible.

This of course is not including any potential CT boosts or drops, both of which are feasible (the former seems more plausible than the latter currently).
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#229 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/24/2013 10:14:21 PM | message detail
Frog is just murking poor Lugia now. His quote might be an understatement.
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#230 | Achromatic | Posted 8/24/2013 10:15:42 PM | message detail
Hey Hey Xstats

Hello Chris

I was hearing talk about Squall being equal to a certain CT character. Can you help me with this?

Sure.

Cloud 60.88%
Squall 39.12%


Thanks Xstats.
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#231 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 10:17:43 PM | message detail
I'm not sure I would tempt fate against Crono like that <_<
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#232 | Achromatic | Posted 8/24/2013 10:19:26 PM | message detail
Hey for one hour Frog can say he was equal to the great Crono since he is clearly equal to Squall or something.

What a guy, that Frog.
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#233 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 10:20:55 PM | message detail
If Crono is equal to or above Squall 2010 he's going to flat-out destroy Pikachu. I suppose that's also what you see happening but we may need some reevaluation post-match on one of our ends!
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#234 | ZFS | Posted 8/24/2013 10:22:10 PM | message detail
Yeah, I figured a CT boost would be in order this year, driven primarily by the smaller pool of voters versus any releases. Think it's hard to say definitively so far, but Old Square looking as good as they have points in that direction, at least. Great show from Frog here. Let's go Crono.
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#235 | Achromatic | Posted 8/24/2013 10:23:06 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
If Crono is equal to or above Squall 2010 he's going to flat-out destroy Pikachu. I suppose that's also what you see happening but we may need some reevaluation post-match on one of our ends!


KH, want to do a testicle bet on Crono versus Pikachu? I feel as if you've been a thorn in my crono loving side for months now. There is only one way men settle these things: with their figurative nuts.

What say you.
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#236 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 10:24:57 PM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
If Crono is equal to or above Squall 2010 he's going to flat-out destroy Pikachu. I suppose that's also what you see happening but we may need some reevaluation post-match on one of our ends!


KH, want to do a testicle bet on Crono versus Pikachu? I feel as if you've been a thorn in my crono loving side for months now. There is only one way men settle these things: with their figurative nuts.

What say you.


I don't even want Pikachu to win that match (since I, y'know, can't win the contest anymore). That being said I'm fairly convinced Pikachu > Crono is a stone-cold lock and I adore figurative testicle bets, so: you're on. :)
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#237 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/24/2013 10:25:04 PM | message detail
This Frog performance is making me seriously wonder about Crono>Cloud. Which means that, since it's CT's job to break its fans' hearts in these things, that Crono loses to Pikachu in a nailbiter.
#238 | xp1337 | Posted 8/24/2013 10:25:05 PM | message detail
I am all for people abandoning Crono!

It will make it that much sweeter when Crono destroys the false idol Pikachu! With Magus in the poll!
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#239 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 8/24/2013 10:26:48 PM | message detail
Well he's got a ways to go but if Cloud can manage 52% I wouldn't call it under-performing. Snake looked positively ridic though - he's the clear favorite; pretty much the only explanation that doesn't involve him boosting is Bayonetta is crap, her opponents R1 were even worse, and Snake somehow PS1 SFF's Alucard... tall tale!
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#240 | Scarlettail | Posted 8/24/2013 10:26:55 PM | message detail
Pikachu's gonna get it done.
#241 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 10:28:44 PM | message detail
I'm gonna start using that Lugia picture/quote as a meme and replace other people in it (possibly myself if things go south). I thought *neigh* was funny but this is maybe the most hilarious contest match picture I've seen since Snake/Sora.
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#242 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/24/2013 10:29:42 PM | message detail
...So if this Frog performance is anywhere near legit, do we do a nomination rally next contest for Robo, Ayla, Lucca, or all three?

>_>
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#243 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 8/24/2013 10:30:56 PM | message detail
I ended up staying out later than I expected tonight and I didn't get back before this match started. I checked my Expert challenge and it seems that I no-picked the first two and had Frog in last. Welp.
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#244 | Sorozone (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/24/2013 10:34:53 PM | message detail
It's amusing to see that Lugia has essentially dropped percentage in every update.
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#245 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 10:35:55 PM | message detail
...I do think at this point we can write off Cloud ever SFFing Crono, right?
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#246 | Achromatic | Posted 8/24/2013 10:36:25 PM | message detail
No way this is with SFF Frog too strong.
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#247 | Achromatic | Posted 8/24/2013 10:37:01 PM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
It's amusing to see that Lugia has essentially dropped percentage in every update.


You can get rid of essentially when it has literally dropped percentage in every update.
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#248 | xp1337 | Posted 8/24/2013 10:38:25 PM | message detail
Why stop at SFF?

Frog being rSFF'd!
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#249 | ZFS | Posted 8/24/2013 10:39:46 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
Why stop at SFF?

Frog being rSFF'd!


Noble Nine at last
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#250 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/24/2013 10:40:25 PM | message detail
Lugia with a 14% update lololol
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