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Wait what? I thought lugia was the favorite here. Spread Betting has it as 27-21 for Lugia I was quite surprised about that, maybe he is the favourite, I just don't see it happening. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 86/105 Today's Picks: GlaDOS and Ryu Hayabusa |
Lugia's
picture is atrocious. I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but I'm
guessing that non-Gen 1 Pokemon are more susceptible to things like
crummy pictures because they simply aren't as recognizable. Of course,
even a hobbled Lugia could be enough to beat a Frog who has to deal with
a Cloud. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
charmander6000 posted... Old square tends to avoid getting SFF by new Square (and vice versa) http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3306 Cloud is good at SFFing all Square. --- And I would do anything for bets, but I won't do that! No I won't do that! I am Sir Chris, the Knight that says NICK!!! |
That's not SFF, that's LPF. SFF implies that Cloud would have beaten Link or come damn close to it. Edit: This is what happened to Crono: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2925 It doesn't mean Link, Cloud, or L-Block SFFed Snake. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Altair still refusing to give up. Trends may favor him later too. Glad I no-picked 2nd. I wonder who the expert fave for 2nd is? Or maybe it's split evenly. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Achromatic posted... charmander6000 posted...Old square tends to avoid getting SFF by new Square (and vice versa) Last Place Factor in a finals match where something interesting was actually happening. Hell, Solid Snake barely did any better on Cloud in 2007 than Crono did there. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
I
do think Cloud can potentially SFF Frog, BTW - Crono getting LPF'd
doesn't mean he wouldn't get a touch of SFF normally, and the strength
difference between Cloud and Frog is much greater than Cloud and Crono. But Cloud couldn't score any noticeable SFF on Kefka back in 2007. So I'm a bit skeptical. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Okay well I don't think there are any polls with Cloud and old school Square. Guess we'll see, although your point about old and new not usually sffing is valid. Oh right Kefka. --- And I would do anything for bets, but I won't do that! No I won't do that! I am Sir Chris, the Knight that says NICK!!! |
I really,really,really don't believe in Lugia...she will finish last I don't recall getting a Pokemon match wrong ever since 2007 or something and the only reason I got Vincent>Mewtwo and Crono>Pikachu is for a win-win situation Lugia is...not great,really. The only reason it was nominated is to have a gen 2 represention The second gen doesn't really got a lot of popular Pokemon...not even with people that stopped playing Pokemon after GSC I would consider the starters to be the stronger (Totodile>Cyndaquil>Chikoria) and then Umbreon...then Lugia After it..probably Pichu (SSBM votes) and then a HUGE gap,followed by fan-favorites such as Ampharos,Scizor etc...but they would be weaker than Lucario Come to think of it..an Eeveelution could really wreck havoc..I would consider Vaporeon and Jolteon to be stronger than Mewtwo And hell...it might be possible to rally for them! in..Devianart...*gulp* |
Nanis23 posted... I really,really,really don't believe in Lugia...she will finish last Actually, an Eevee evolution (or Eevee itself) is one I'd like to see in a contest. --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Karma Hunter posted... But Cloud couldn't score any noticeable SFF on Kefka back in 2007. So I'm a bit skeptical. Kefka's matches never make sense ;) |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1346 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2897 If Crono can SFF Kefka easily and Cloud has trouble SFFing Kefka at all, I'm not taking Cloud to SFF Crono even 1%. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
i feel like lugia is on the cartridge of the best-selling pokemon game- that should put it over some of the starters, at least --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. |
I
don't know Kefka only getting 13% of the vote looks like some sff to
me. I mean I get it is hard to tell because of KEFKA and all of that but
yeah, four ways are kind of crazy. Basically who knows. We'll see! --- And I would do anything for bets, but I won't do that! No I won't do that! I am Sir Chris, the Knight that says NICK!!! |
Kefka got 19.09% on Cloud in that match, I guess that is slight SFF. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 86/105 Today's Picks: GlaDOS and Ryu Hayabusa |
Hm http://stattit.com/subreddits/by_subscribers/ /r/gaming with crazy amount of 3,530,371 subscribers,which is 10 times more than LoL But...this is a neutral place,they can rally Draven just as much as any other character if not more /r/Games got 347,419,which is like LoL but I have no idea how it differs from gaming? (maybe not video games,but regular games? ) Then there is LoL in the 40th place...and the next video game entry is Pokemon,at 51 Dota 2 at 146 (useful for anti votes) And then /r/Zelda at 180...but we are talking about being 3 times less than Pokemon subreddit Interesting fact-Minecraft subreddit is even more popular than LoL in terms of subscribers,but LoL has 10 times the amount of online users |
Even though it is neutral Link would easily get more support than Draven, heck I would bet Shepard would too. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 86/105 Today's Picks: GlaDOS and Ryu Hayabusa |
hey hey, way to suck ass Altair --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (is also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif |
Altair is really flubbing this day vote so far. He still has time to make a match of it but man. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Kefka has held up after the power hour better than Lara! Way to go Kefka --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
Oh, wait, it's the weekend. Altair is screwed. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Honestly,
I expected Kefka to do a little better here. His match pic is gone of
the best in years, especially when you factor in that quote. Plus, his
R1 performance was pretty awe-inspiring. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Kefka
was not SFFed in 2007 based on his R1 and R2 showings - he got almost
the exact same percentage on Marcus Fenix in both rounds. Unless you
want to say that Fenix was SFFed as well somehow. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
charmander6000 posted... Maybe 2010 Ratchet was a fluke, he was crushed pretty badly by Ryu/Ken As much as I love the guy, Nefarious is about as bad of an anchor as you can get, honestly. He'd be one of the weakest characters we've ever seen if he ever got in. --- http://i.imgur.com/M7vKB.gif |
nominate Nefarious/Quark for sub-chester levels better yet, Nefarious/Laaaaaaaawreeeeeeeeence --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (is also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif |
Also, just remember if Frog/Lugia is close, The Clutch (tm) will save Frog. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
TheKoolAidShoto posted... nominate Nefarious/Quark for sub-chester levels Nefarious/Lawrence for Quote Factor Boost with "LAWRENCE! Whose butt is this?!" --- http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9919/leonhart.png |
AxemRedRanger posted... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1346 You guys never fail to come up with weird conclusions. --- Tornadoman78: tornadoman and tornadogirl like to kick box each other in my tornaolayzers and she dosent even mind getting hit |
TheKoolAidShoto posted... nominate Nefarious/Quark for sub-chester levels I wonder how Death=Adder would do! |
charmander6000 posted... Kefka got 19.09% on Cloud in that match, I guess that is slight SFF. It's possible, but he stayed fairly consistent with what he got on Marcus Fenix the match before. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
If
you think Altair is roughly equal to Ryu Hayabusa, then this match
lines up with Kefka's R1 when taking into account Zack LFF. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
And remember, Cloud and Kefka are a lot
more related than Cloud and Crono. Not only are they from the same
series, Cloud's game was coming right off of Kefka's game in that
series. And the strength difference between Cloud 2k7 and Kefka 2k7 was a
chasm, meaning it should have been beyond easy to score SFF on him. Tonight should say something conclusive about it too, though. Frog losing to that Lugia would pretty easily indicate SFF. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
...incidentally, how do people think Crono/Kefka goes nowadays? --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Using 2010 Squall = 2010 Crono, it'd be expected to go 63/37. Although I suppose you're asking how much SFF do I think Crono'd land on him? I dunno. In 2005, it was a 70/30 split (fairly easy to derive since Crono beat Vercetti fresh off of beating Kefka the round before), and it probably wasn't that different indirectly in 2003 or 2004. So there's no way he quadruples him like he did in 2003. I wouldn't be surprised if he hit 65-70% though. --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfiu09.gif http://i54.tinypic.com/10729w2.gif |
Well,
Kefka looks significantly stronger to me and Crono is likely even
weaker. It's unlikely, but possible Kefka's up well into the 40s on him
pre-SFF, and once you start growing that close in strength it's a lot harder to SFF people. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Kefka could manage 40% indirectly now. So who's the strongest character we take Kefka to beat now? Leon Kennedy? Dante? Zelda? Sora? Yoshi? --- http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.png http://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png |
Can someone remind me why everyone always says Squall = Crono for me because people say that a lot. --- And I would do anything for bets, but I won't do that! No I won't do that! I am Sir Chris, the Knight that says NICK!!! |
Achromatic posted... Can someone remind me why everyone always says Squall = Crono for me because people say that a lot. Because despite your silly thinking that Crono would SFF Squall into the ground (Hint: He wouldn't), it's been a relatively safe assumption for a while since Vincent 2005 >= 2005 Squall and 2007-2008 Vincent = 2007-2008 Crono. If anything, saying Crono's equal to Squall is giving him a lot of credit still. --- http://gifsoup.com/view/874243/big-boss-o.gif |
Leon/Kefka seems like it would be a nice match. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
LeonhartFour posted... Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Kefka could manage 40% indirectly now. Wait Kefka>GlaDOS 100%? |
Squall
is traditionally the strongest non-Noble Nine character, his loss to
Vincent pre-KH2 notwithstanding. I use that estimate with the assumption
that there's hopefully minimal difference between weakest Noble Niner
and the strongest non-Noble. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Yeah, I'd take Kefka > GlaDOS without thinking. --- Guess who I am! http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1345748_o.gif |
Squall = Vincent Crono = Vincent Squall = Crono, at least that's what I feel is everyone's train of thought. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 86/105 Today's Picks: GlaDOS and Ryu Hayabusa |
LeonhartFour posted... Achromatic posted...Can someone remind me why everyone always says Squall = Crono for me because people say that a lot. To hell with my crazy SFF ideas (I am a crazy person, we've all established this with some of my predictions) but I think using a combo of different years, different formats, etc is pretty much reaching. Then again a lot of people did some crazy stuff in terms of underestimating the tail end of the noble nine for years, I guess this shouldn't surprise me. --- And I would do anything for bets, but I won't do that! No I won't do that! I am Sir Chris, the Knight that says NICK!!! |
And
yeah, Crono beating Squall these days would be quite the
accomplishment. I don't think Pikachu would be the Guru favorite if
people unanimously thought Crono could beat Squall. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
LeonhartFour posted... Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Kefka could manage 40% indirectly now. he wouldn't beat any of those characters 1v1, unless Dante had a DmC pick..then he may win. --- http://s19.postimage.org/aosug5mrn/Persona4.png |
kefka
is considerably stronger now, while i wouldn't take him over perennial
upper-midcarders like Ryu/Dante/Yoshi, i would take him to score 40-41%
on Crono INDIRECTLY. --- Zinsanity of the Helix Board |
Achromatic posted... but I think using a combo of different years, different formats, etc is pretty much reaching. There's not as much extreme variation in formats as people think, as long as you don't have another entity in the match screwing up the results (and the fact that Vincent/Crono went pretty much exactly the same way two straight years indicates that there wasn't), and it's a difference of 2-3 years. I mean, I guess we could say Squall was essentially equal to Brawl hyped Sonic in 2007, and he beat the Auron who smashed Sonic in 2008. Squall is on the tier right below Noble Nine, and I'm not sure why you seem to think he isn't. He's validated his strength pretty much every year. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonhjpguz.jpg |
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