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Why
is it reasonable to think '13 Alucard = '10 Alucard? the last few years
haven't done anything for Alucard except to weaken him, same as the
FFVII guys. Also, isn't it possible he's getting SSFd here? after all,
MGS is the premier Konami game for PS. --- Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die. |
'card *did* still beat Falcon, he can't be that pitiful. Also neither Cloud nor Sephiroth SFFed him back in the day. It's still an obviously amazing performance no matter how you slice it. Solid Snake is doing better on Alucard and Bayonetta than Link did on Raiden and SFFed Yoshi (who is significantly weaker than Raiden!). That can't be ignored. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
What has Falcon gotten the last few years? isn't it plausible he weakened as well? --- Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die. |
A spectacular contest for Metal Gear Solid. --- Hey I just met you, and this is crazy, but you have died of dysentery. |
It's
possible Falcon weakened, but it starts to strain credulity if you
start saying that about practically everyone. I'm not so foolish as to
claim something like Snake > Link (...yet), but he has outperformed
him for two straight rounds. Give him a little credit. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Calintares posted... What has Falcon gotten the last few years? isn't it plausible he weakened as well? Don't forget that Snake scored 78% on Isaac in the first round too. Oh wait, we should downplay Snake's performance by claiming that Isaac, Alucard and Falcon have all gotten weaker over the years. God forbid Snake from doing well in the next round, we have to think of more excuses to discredit him. --- The cycle of life and death continues. We will live. And they will die. |
Isaac
is probably a touch overrated because he goes through Charizard, to be
perfectly fair. Snake did still outperform Link's projections on him
safely. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
So how do we rank the stronger FF characters these days? It's...pretty difficult to do after some of the things we've seen lately. I'm going with: Cloud Sephiroth Squall Auron Tifa Kefka Vincent Aeris Vivi Zack Tidus/Yuna/Rikku I don't feel good about a lot of that being accurate. Except Kefka being that high. That's totally a lock and I see no problem there. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Obviously
Snake have gotten stronger, but this reminds me of how people (mainly
Ulti) kept on saying FF7 outperformed OoT in the 2009 contest. But in
reality, all the games in FF7's half were suffering from old age, so
good performances on them were worth less, and so it wasn't a surprise
when OoT took it to the cleaners. Isaac was new, and Raiden does have reason to boost, Snake's opponents doesn't. I'd say crushing Bayonetta is more impressive than what he's doing to Alucard. --- Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die. |
Mario was clearly being SFFd by Link too, Isaac probably wasn't too overrated in the raw stats. Doesn't matter anyway, according to Calintares, we shouldn't use past year stats because everyone in Snake's division has clearly deteriorated in strength. Rydia, Wander, Falcon, Alucard, Isaac, etc. --- The cycle of life and death continues. We will live. And they will die. |
Calintares posted... Obviously Snake have gotten stronger, but this reminds me of how people (mainly Ulti) kept on saying FF7 outperformed OoT in the 2009 contest. But in reality, all the games in FF7's half were suffering from old age, so good performances on them were worth less, and so it wasn't a surprise when OoT took it to the cleaners. I'm not saying you don't have a point - I'm still not taking Snake > Link 1v1. But that requires Raiden to have kind of boosted through the roof... not *that* crazy since he's MGS and he's had a new game, but Link > Snake will pretty easily give us Raiden > Falcon and Alucard. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
True/False:
Snake would do better against Draven than Link if Snake took Link's
place next match (i.e. it'd be Snake/Shepard/Draven). --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
False. It's not really possible to rally for snake. --- If you believe that Abed is the true Messiah and you are 100% proud of it make this your signature. |
Match pics up and man, some serious advantages for the Pokemon. They're the only bright things in their pictures. Except LUGIA lol --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
LeonhartFour posted... Brawl derailed two Noble Nine breaker moments for Squall Ulti was right....! (lol) |
so
Pikachu>Crono>Magus is confirmed along with Cloud for first but
does that pick put Frog>Lugia? and can Leon still win with that pic?
also Shadow>Gordon? can Dante beat Squirtle with that pic? i know
nothing about Zidane, he finishing 3rd? --- "L-Block 2007 Character Battle Champion"Always remember "L-Block, shaped like a boot to kick your ass" |
I
don't really buy brightness mattering too much once we get into the
heavy hitters. Random fodder match pictures help (or if Vincent is in a
suit or snake looks like crap) but stuff like "brightness" where the
characters are pretty well known I am not so sure. What examples do you
have where this proved to be the case? --- And I would do anything for bets, but I won't do that! No I won't do that! I am Sir Chris, the Knight that says NICK!!! |
Leon looks like crap but he should be far enough of Gordon and Shadow to put that to bed pretty easily. Probably. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
I'm taking Shadow > Gordon because Sonic Team looked legit and Half-Life probably overlaps more with RE than Sonic. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Also why have we never gotten a Squall vs. Leon match. Why does Squall always fight Final Fantasy --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Achromatic posted... I don't really buy brightness mattering too much once we get into the heavy hitters. Random fodder match pictures help (or if Vincent is in a suit or snake looks like crap) but stuff like "brightness" where the characters are pretty well known I am not so sure. What examples do you have where this proved to be the case? We haven't really had a brightness disparity like this outside of Snake/Pikachu, which is obviously an extenuating circumstance. I'm not seriously saying Crono has no shot, but it's just a solid advantage in Pika's corner. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
OIC. Well we'll see I guess. I still think Crono can get the job done, but I've always been a big fan of Crono so. --- And I would do anything for bets, but I won't do that! No I won't do that! I am Sir Chris, the Knight that says NICK!!! |
Zidane should
be safe for last... but he's close enough where there could be some
weird 3-way effect. and i wouldn't call Pikachu a lock at all still. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif |
I'm
not really down on Pikachu, it's a great Pikachu picture. Crono just
looks really bad compared to him. We have TWELVE Crono/Pikachu pictures
in the match archives that are all fair and many are fantastic, so
seeing that for such a hyped match is a downer. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Am I correct in anticipating Kefka>Lara>Altair tomorrow? |
Achromatic posted... OIC. Dear god this darkest timeline is awful... I agree with a Chrisism --- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, 49ers and Lions win the Super Bowl (10/10/10) Professional UotY Mentor to Leo3Leo, McFlubbin and Jeff Zero |
Match XCII: (2) GlaDOS vs. (5) Ike vs. (8) Epona Previous Round GlaDOS 58.72% Cole 23.82% Ragna the Bloodedge 17.46% Ike 35.81% Proto Man 35.26% Dr. Robotnik 28.94% Epona 47.95% Mordin Solus 31.61% Niko Bellic 20.44% Analysis This is probably the only match this round where you can make a solid argument for any of the three characters winning. Despite what some people think I feel GlaDOS had a good performance while we have no information on Cole or Ragna getting to the high 50s is decent. We are still unaware on how much free Portal and Portal 2 has helped GlaDOS. While Wheatley lost to Crash in the first round he is only in Portal 2 and I doubt anyone would consider him close to GlaDOS. Weighted Companion Cube did not look impressive and while you can blame it on joke entrants getting weaker it does not bring good news for GlaDOS either. I was a bit disappointed with Ike. While being equal to Proto Man is okay I always felt he was stronger. As the other characters did not hugely impress Ike still has a chance at victory. One thing I am concerned about is the Nintendo split. Ike was able to resist SFF from Pikachu and given his performance on Proto Man, Mario quite well, but at the same time I do not see him SFF Epona. This could be dangerous because that could cause both characters to heavily LFF each other thus giving GlaDOS the win. Using a constant Niko Epona is expected to be stronger than Jill thus she will have an easy time winning this match. Of course I doubt Niko has stayed constant, Vercetti flopped even harder and similarly designed characters have not fared too well either. Her performance on Mordin was decent, while I feel he is the weakest of the side Mass Effect characters in this contest he would have to be significantly weaker than Garrus and Wrex to place Epona out of this match. I feel LFF is going to cost the two Nintendo characters the match along with GlaDOSs expected boost. Ike and Epona could have a chance if one of them pulls SFF, if it happens it will likely be Ike who benefits as I doubt he will get SFF based on his matches against Pikachu and Mario in the past. I am going with Ike for second, but Epona could very easily take it as well. charmander6000s Bracket: GlaDOS > Ike and Epona charmander6000s Prediction: GlaDOS 35.73%, Ike 33.23%, Epona 32.04% --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 85/105 Today's Picks: Kirby and Solid Snake |
Squirtle doesn't look "brighter" than Zidane. That blonde hair pops out more than Squirtle's surprisingly drab shade of blue. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
im
holding out hope someone will rally for Epona. i feel like she could
really make a jump in vote totals if she can make round 3. --- "L-Block 2007 Character Battle Champion"Always remember "L-Block, shaped like a boot to kick your ass" |
Zidane gets first because his quote mentions Cloud and Squall. --- Leonhart posting from his phone |
Snake looking strong. Snake > Link confirmed... if it wasn't for draven. |
At
the moment I'm going Epona -> Ike -> Glados, but damn this is a
hard one. But I'm well off the leaderboard I need to take a chance. --- XBL Gamertag - Tiirshak |
Someone rally Epona! Should be a good match either way. |
Expecting
Ike to lose here. Based on Round 1, Epona is probably on (if not,
above) his level and we know the Nintendo hierarchy prefers Zelda over
Fire Emblem. GlaDOS is going to stick out as the only non-Nintendo
character, not to mention she looked fairly decent in her first round
match. --- Allen didn't screw VV, Phoenix Wright didn't screw VV, Mewtwo certainly did not screw VV, nor did paulg screw VV. Vincent Valentine screwed Vincent Valentine. |
If
Epona didn't have that stupid quote I'd just write her off completely.
But I've laughed at it five times today and I have no sense of humor, so
now I'm scared. >_> --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
gut prediction epona - 41.4% glados - 33.9% ike - 24.7% |
I've
settled into Ike>GlaDOS>Epona. Even though I don't think
Ike/Epona LFF each other very much, I'm riding on the idea that Epona's
"Zelda proxy" votes evaporate in the face of stronger competition. --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
Epona has the highest rallying potential other the Draven, she is our only real hope --- "L-Block 2007 Character Battle Champion"Always remember "L-Block, shaped like a boot to kick your ass" |
But Ike underperformed relative to our expectations worse than GlaDOS or Epona. Also, I have to question just how much
stronger GlaDOS and Ike are than Mordin and Niko. I do expect a pretty
even match today and I'm not sure who to back (apart from Ike in last),
but if one entrant is gonna go crazy and shoot for a high percentage, it
has to be oats. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif |
Ike underperformed relative to expectations because people didn't pay attention to 2010. I have to question just how much stronger GlaDOS and Ike are than Mordin and Niko. A lot --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I
will say that if we got something like Mordin > Ike I would die
laughing, even if you basically had to call it SFF at that point. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Crono looks good! --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Really, can't see Crono in trouble at all. |
I'm wary of Gordon in that Leon match. Just can't shake the feeling he's gonna pull something. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
I've
thought about this match all day, and I still have no idea what to do.
I kind of convinced myself earlier that I could at least put Ike last,
but the more I think about it, the more I think he might beat Epona
after all. It is so difficult to say. |
Epona > GlaDOS > Ike and I'm sticking by it come tears or smiles. |
Epona
just needs to bust out a 61/39 to get Mordin > Ike. It's entirely
possible, especially if she needs it in a dogfight for first place... or
even if she doesn't (Donkey Kong). Heck, if you subscribe to the
relatively rational belief that Marth = Ike, Epona doesn't need to be that much stronger than Phoenix Wright to get 60% on Ike before SFF. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/a4GuDV3.gif |
We
might not even break 30000 votes in this match, after Snake's round 1
match broke 32000 votes. And that's despite the stronger competition in
this match compared to round 1. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
That essentially points to a large fanbase overlap between at least two of the characters --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 85/105 Today's Picks: Kirby and Solid Snake |
The
problem with this match is that it's just impossible to tell how much
legitimate strength Epona has. She could fall apart against stronger
opponents, or she could ride the joke vote all the way through the
round. I think she's clearly pulling the Link Proxy votes, but I'm not
sure just how strong those votes are and what sort of opponent she'd
need to lose them. --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
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