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Question
to people: Assuming Draven steamrolls this contest, if Snake were to
60/40 Mario next contest, would you take him over Link 1v1? --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
red sox 777 posted... I think that was always very tenuous of a contest-deciding match. Rather like people calling Link/Magus the match that would decide SC2K3. Cloud/Crono LFF and Snake/Pokemon LFF are going to be tiny. Like, probably less than 1%. That match isn't deciding anything unless Cloud and Snake start off within 51/49 of each other, and one of them beats Link with Mario while the other doesn't- which is hard considering that we just said they need to be within 51/49 of each other. Oh yeah, I guess I was pretty ambiguous. By contest winner, I mean the user that would win the bracket contest. Because calling correctly the gauntlet that is Division 6, plus whether it was Link, Snake or Cloud the winner in that final match decided the contest. And your final pick there relied heavily on how you reasoned Division 6. Now, someone who has Draven winning it all can outscore them. --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
red sox 777 posted... Is everyone here really that scared of HorseFAQs? dont forget the rally factor, Epona clearly has the biggest rally potential in that match --- "L-Block 2007 Character Battle Champion"Always remember "L-Block, shaped like a boot to kick your ass" |
red sox 777 posted... Question to people: Assuming Draven steamrolls this contest, if Snake were to 60/40 Mario next contest, would you take him over Link 1v1? Nope. --- Beggars can't be choosers. gg Link. |
KamikazePotato posted... For reference, But since then Portal was given away for free for a good while and even got a more popular sequel. Ike has done nothing since then, and SSB characters haven't exactly done very well this contest. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Every
joke outside of Draven has tanked. Did we forget Tidus being stronger
than Missingno without stuffing? Animals, not really. Ammy had a great
performance that's pretty easily explainable, and Missile got a huge
rally. I don't think there's a general trend at work here at all. The fact that the early voters have embraced a horse (???) is pretty worrying, though. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
If any character beat Mario 60-40 I would take them over Link 1v1. --- ~War~ |
LinkMarioSamus posted... hylianknight3 posted...KamikazePotato posted...I wish I could care about this result. F*** Draven. I refuse to believe that something good came from Draven. |
FranzyvonKarma posted... If any character beat Mario 60-40 I would take them over Link 1v1. But we all know that's basically impossible, unless a rally like Draven's. --- Beggars can't be choosers. gg Link. |
Yeah
60/40ing Mario is just something Link has never, ever been able to do
at natural strength pre-SFF. If someone like Snake could do it Link
should just resign the match right then. Not that people won't still pick him, because at this point Link losing isn't something that's accepted as a possibility by many. People are still picking Link over DRAVEN --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
FranzyvonKarma posted... If any character beat Mario 60-40 I would take them over Link 1v1. You do know that Link consistently 63/37s Mario (or does better), right? |
TheOneAboveAll posted... LinkMarioSamus posted...hylianknight3 posted...KamikazePotato posted...I wish I could care about this result. F*** Draven. xD |
KamikazePotato posted... Every joke outside of Draven has tanked. Did we forget Tidus being stronger than Missingno without stuffing? Animals, not really. Ammy had a great performance that's pretty easily explainable, and Missile got a huge rally. I don't think there's a general trend at work here at all. Horses have gained a lot of attention with horse meat fiascos and horse masks showing up everywhere on the Internet. 2013 YEAR OF HORSES |
TheOneAboveAll posted... LinkMarioSamus posted...hylianknight3 posted...KamikazePotato posted...I wish I could care about this result. F*** Draven. I admit I laughed |
TheOneAboveAll posted... FranzyvonKarma posted...If any character beat Mario 60-40 I would take them over Link 1v1. are you aware of how SFF works --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
What the hell Snake. I go for my lunch and come back to this. --- Crucifying my Oracle average one match at a time |
List of times Mario has been 60/40'd. Most of it is Link, naturally. Link/Mario 2002 Sephiroth/Mario 2003 Battle Royale 2006 R1 Battle Royale 2006 R2 Link/Sephiroth/Mario/Vincent 2007 Link/Mario/MMX/Zack 2008 Link/Mario/Samus/Crono 2008 Link/Mario 2010 --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
KamikazePotato posted... Also, I hate being resigned to the Ike Defense Force, but the way people acted about him after his Round 1 match was weeeird. MORE STATS: After what Wrex did, you could consider it a state of panic. --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Karma Hunter posted... TheOneAboveAll posted...FranzyvonKarma posted...If any character beat Mario 60-40 I would take them over Link 1v1. Yes. I'm also aware of the variance of opinion of what Link would do to Mario without SFF. Basically, if someone 60/40s Mario they very much have a chance against Link. They may even be a slight favorite. But it would still be very, very debatable. I think Link also 60/40s Mario pre-SFF. |
So using a constant Sub-Zero and Ike does Garrus 60/40 Mordin? If so Ike would be the favourite over Epona --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 85/105 Today's Picks: Kirby and Solid Snake |
TheOneAboveAll posted... Karma Hunter posted...TheOneAboveAll posted...FranzyvonKarma posted...If any character beat Mario 60-40 I would take them over Link 1v1. So do you think Samus beats Mario very easily? --- ~War~ |
red sox 777 posted... Is everyone here really that scared of HorseFAQs? What? WCC bombed, L-Block did what he should have done against fodder, Epona got a decent win against the weakest ME character and Niko, and ? Block was the favorite, but lost to Rikku. They're hardly overperforming. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima SuperNiceDog: Bracket: Good, Taste: Bad |
Let
me rephrase that. Draven smashed MMX and Ryu. Vincent lost to Mewtwo
and Phoenix Wright by a big margin. Suddenly people are talking about
Luigi and Kirby over Sephiroth 1v1. Epona feels like a
bandwagonable/rallyable character like that. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
FranzyvonKarma posted... So do you think Samus beats Mario very easily? More Mario/Samus? Yes, I think that Samus is indirectly stronger than Mario. Mario just wins that battle heads-up. |
I
really have to applaud EC for standing his ground, alone, and insisting
that Samus > Mario indirectly even right after Mario put up 59%
directly. Right or not (in 2005, much less likely for that to be right
than in later years), that's a bold stand. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
If
Link/Mario is 60/40 pre-SFF not only did rSFF occur in Samus/Mario, but
it is arguably greater than most normal SFF matches we've seen! We're
talking about Mario turning a 54-46 deficit into a 60-40 smackdown.
That's unreal. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Karma Hunter posted... If Link/Mario is 60/40 pre-SFF not only did rSFF occur in Samus/Mario, but it is arguably greater than most normal SFF matches we've seen! We're talking about Mario turning a 54-46 deficit into a 60-40 smackdown. That's unreal. It's the Nintendo tiers, man. You can't throw down natural strength in those things. Nintendo fans know what they like. --- And I would do anything for bets, but I won't do that! No I won't do that! I am Sir Chris, the Knight that says NICK!!! |
Uh,
KH, Link/Mario HAS floated around 60/40 indirectly for 10 years. In
2003 it was 62/38 (remember Sephiroth put up close to 62% on Mario). In
2005, the very year of Mario/Samus, Sephiroth still got 56% on Mario.
And Link put 55% on Sephiroth. It wasn't until 2010 that Link appeared to weaken drastically and no longer be capable of putting 60/40 on Mario indirectly. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
Clinkeroth back then was just otherworldly. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
Samus
over Mario indirectly again, huh. Sounds like the pipe dream that gets
Crono doing better than 2005 against Mario. Everyone's gotta have
something to make these contests fun, I guess! --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
red sox 777 posted... Uh, KH, Link/Mario HAS floated around 60/40 indirectly for 10 years. In 2003 it was 62/38 (remember Sephiroth put up close to 62% on Mario). In 2005, the very year of Mario/Samus, Sephiroth still got 56% on Mario. And Link put 55% on Sephiroth. You'll, uh, notice I am not arguing for a Link as strong as back then lest all my hopes and dreams be shattered <_< --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Karma Hunter posted... red sox 777 posted...Uh, KH, Link/Mario HAS floated around 60/40 indirectly for 10 years. In 2003 it was 62/38 (remember Sephiroth put up close to 62% on Mario). In 2005, the very year of Mario/Samus, Sephiroth still got 56% on Mario. And Link put 55% on Sephiroth. Draven has already shattered all of our hopes and dreams. |
KH Link 2004 gets like 88% on Alucard. RIP Snake. --- ~War~ |
But
yeah, Snake always had a path to victory against Link this year imho.
Beat him as a longshot with Mario in the poll. Hold a bonus Link/Snake
1v1 poll, cue the bandwagon, Snake boosts relative to his 'real'
strength 2008 style and wins again. I mean now there's a Draven in the way but I always maintained that was a path to victory! --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
red sox 777 posted... I really have to applaud EC for standing his ground, alone, and insisting that Samus > Mario indirectly even right after Mario put up 59% directly. Right or not (in 2005, much less likely for that to be right than in later years), that's a bold stand. It's not that surprising Samus is the most overrated NN currently At least people learned that Sephiroth and Crono are much weaker now Samus? she will need to prove herself |
FranzyvonKarma posted... KH Link 2004 gets like 88% on Alucard. Yeah but 04 Link also puts up 69% on 04 Snake! --- Crucifying my Oracle average one match at a time |
Nanis23 posted... red sox 777 posted...I really have to applaud EC for standing his ground, alone, and insisting that Samus > Mario indirectly even right after Mario put up 59% directly. Right or not (in 2005, much less likely for that to be right than in later years), that's a bold stand. contest of FRAUDS only Draven is legit --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Snake
is only doing slightly better than should have been expected, not sure
why people are so shocked. I had this at 60/25/15 based on a possible
Snake boost (up to 2010 Cloud levels or so), Alucard being very
fortunate last contest in getting Link at night, and Link anti-votes. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
BRAWL DEBOOST --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
I'm pretty sure Samus already proved herself. I mean, if she overperformed on fodder then she's right on track with every Samus ever. --- ~War~ |
There'll
be a lot of LFF in Epona/Ike, but don't expect either of them to just
roll over. Ike has FE and SSBB while Epona has three major LoZ-games --
pretty different periods and reasons to like them. LoZ normally SFFs
most Nintendo-opponents, but Epona's not so likely and Ike's proven
resistant anyway. Then again, FE hasn't shown it can SFF anybody
either. Marth > Lucario might be our only example, and he lost to
DK, MK, and Peach before. Gotta go with Epona > Ike, but GLaDOS probably wins from LFF. GLaDOS is the real gauge of a Portal-boost, not Wheatley...so she takes it with a decent boost and heavy Nintendo divide. --- T H E S T A B L E - bring on Epona! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
If Samus beats Snake it will be dismissed as Brawl SFF. If Samus beats Sephiroth it will be because Sephiroth has fallen off a cliff. If Samus beats Cloud it will be because Cloud has also fallen off a cliff. In conclusion, to prove herself, Samus must beat Link or Mario. Samus is so screwed. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
Reminder that Marth held up far, far better against Donkey Kong than Falco did, despite the fact that Marth has games people have played that don't have DK. --- ~War~ |
Fact that FALCO has games, that is. Stupid not being able to edit. --- ~War~ |
FranzyvonKarma posted... Reminder that Marth held up far, far better against Donkey Kong than Falco did, despite the fact that Marth has games people have played that don't have DK. No he didn't. Not at the time. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Samus could beat Mario...if GameFAQs is stuck in pre-2010 that is. Otherwise, no. Not when the Mario franchise is bigger than it has ever been since the NES days while Metroid is coming off of They Changed It Now It Sucks: The Game and has no upcoming release in sight, causing everyone to think the series is dead. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Discussions
like this remind me why Snake is my favorite contest character, even
beyond just being my preference overall. Sure, for strength you can't
beat Link or CAN you. But Snake? I remember people from this very topic once arguing that Snake couldn't beat Magus, the guy Snake's nerd sidekick just put 42% on. Out of all the elites, he's come the furthest. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
I'm not convinced that the order won't end up Epona>Ike>Glados. While Epona is sort of a wild card, we've had good showings from animals and jokes during this contest. In addition, it's Zelda (and OoC Zelda at that), which should lend it some modicum of strength. It more than doubled Niko, which isn't a bad showing if Epona is high fodder. Even if Epona gets some Zelda push going, I'm still not convinced that it's going to hurt Ike at all. Ike is a FE character and a Smash character, neither of which crosses over with Epona. I'm not sure that Ike gets much of his strength from Nintendo (Although I would be open to proof otherwise), which means that if Epona is higher tier, he's not going to lose very much strength to SFF. And Glados, being from Portal, feels like a character that might lose a bit of strength with the lower votals we're seeing. I think some of her strength comes from the casual crowd (especially after seeing WCC's underperformance over Claptrap), and she's going to end up with an underwhelming performance because of it. Thoughts? --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
I don't think Marth and Ike are really comparable when looking at LFF/SFF stuff. Ike has games people have played. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Karma Hunter posted... Discussions like this remind me why Snake is my favorite contest character, even beyond just being my preference overall. Sure, for strength you can't beat Link or CAN you. But Snake? I remember people from this very topic once arguing that Snake couldn't beat Magus, the guy Snake's nerd sidekick just put 42% on. Out of all the elites, he's come the furthest. Especially when you consider Snake is NN but didn't register his first win against a fellow NN until his 5th contest. And it wasn't even like his losses before then were to the upper echelons of the NN either. --- Crucifying my Oracle average one match at a time |
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