Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1123

#101 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/21/2013 11:42:19 AM | message detail
Wow.
---
~War~
#102 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/21/2013 11:46:05 AM | message detail
Amaterasu is going to be projected over Bowser soon

DogFAQs, full effect
---
http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif
Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer)
#103 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/21/2013 11:47:31 AM | message detail
Ammy to upset Squall and Missingno confirmed.
---
Demyx is better than Axel.
http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom
#104 | superange128 | Posted 8/21/2013 11:53:10 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
I honestly don't understand why you people even bother responding to Kanz at this point.


PERHAPS THE SAME COULD BE SAID OF ALL DUMB PEOPLE/TROLLS
---
Want any VNs pre-patched? PM me. List of VNs can be found by clicking on my username.
#105 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/21/2013 11:53:33 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Ultimaphazon posted...
Just imagine, if Allen had used Paulg's MK3 pic (yes, he submitted non-ninja Subby), we'd be looking at Boss > Subby right now.


Worst guy ever, he keeps getting worse the more I learn of him, goddamn


You, they guy who single-handedly is trying to get a character that no one here cares for to run over the bracket, claims that someone else is the worst guy ever? Your attempt at fixing the bracket had more potential (and did more) than any pic sabotage ever could.


There's a difference between doing what you can to get your guy to win based on his own strength and sabotaging the other guy's chances. This is especially obvious in a multi-way poll, I would think. It's not the same thing to try to get someone to win as it is to get someone else to lose, and they are not one and the same.
#106 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/21/2013 11:54:24 AM | message detail
Ammy over Bowser? She faced Crono before, didn't she?

Well that's just splendid I say!
---
Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick
your 7 time champion, Link.
#107 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/21/2013 11:54:58 AM | message detail
Actually, it is exactly the same, as one implies the other.
---
Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick
your 7 time champion, Link.
#108 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2013 11:57:11 AM | message detail
Not wanting to open a can of worms, but what are the arguments for cheating in the Draven match other than, the guy I didn't like won so it must be cheating?

10-50% of the poll being stuffed would be pretty obvious for SBAllen and while technically it would be possible to disguise them it would almost have to be to the point where you would not be able to tell the difference between legit and fake which then reverts back to the whole "they cheated because I didn't like the results" thing.
---
BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls
Points: 71/93 Today's Picks: Vincent and Bowser
#109 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/21/2013 11:59:39 AM | message detail
Kanz is rallying for a character he like,there is nothing wrong with that
Why he like Draven is a mystery but you can't judge someone for what he likes
Now,an OBVIOUS picture sabotage is something that can't be forgiven
I don't care about Vincent but I just think what would happen if Mewtwo got MegaMewtwo picture...
There would be blood trust me!!
#110 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/21/2013 11:59:48 AM | message detail
Look at Lopen's posts in Bacon's topic. He has a pretty good analysis of it. Basically, he uses the base trendline of vote intake from normal matches to find the number of extra votes, and then uses the proportion of extra votes going to MMX/Ryu at different times to figure out the number of likely stuffed votes.
---
Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick
your 7 time champion, Link.
#111 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/21/2013 12:00:38 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Not wanting to open a can of worms, but what are the arguments for cheating in the Draven match other than, the guy I didn't like won so it must be cheating?

10-50% of the poll being stuffed would be pretty obvious for SBAllen and while technically it would be possible to disguise them it would almost have to be to the point where you would not be able to tell the difference between legit and fake which then reverts back to the whole "they cheated because I didn't like the results" thing.


Lopen's rallystats, which you can find in Allen's topic. Allen did mention that 75% of all the poll traffic came from Reddit though, which means something interesting: According to him, the actual match would have gotten only like 21k votes, one of the absolute lowest votals of the contest. Either there's way more GameFAQS/Reddit crossover than we think there is, or people decided to just not bother to show up except for Reddit that day.
#112 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/21/2013 12:04:31 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Not wanting to open a can of worms, but what are the arguments for cheating in the Draven match other than, the guy I didn't like won so it must be cheating?

10-50% of the poll being stuffed would be pretty obvious for SBAllen and while technically it would be possible to disguise them it would almost have to be to the point where you would not be able to tell the difference between legit and fake which then reverts back to the whole "they cheated because I didn't like the results" thing.


Pretty obvious and I don't understand why it took Lopen that much time to post his findings or why people didn't comment more about the issue

Of Draven rallied votes,about 30% of them went to Jak and Chie
In the case of X and Ryu,barely 10% for both of them
Why would weaker characters get more support from LoL fans than X and Ryu...?
#113 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/21/2013 12:04:38 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Allen did mention that 75% of all the poll traffic came from Reddit though, which means something interesting: According to him, the actual match would have gotten only like 21k votes, one of the absolute lowest votals of the contest.


more evidence of SBFraud making up numbers
can't even do it right and say something like 2/3 of voters came from Reddit, smh
#114 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/21/2013 12:05:15 PM | message detail
That might include non-voters, though. I'd assume a good amount of that people that clicked the link may not have even bothered voting.
---
[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]
#115 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/21/2013 12:07:17 PM | message detail
5 minutes passed and im still trembling about the idea of MegaMewtwo picture
This can be even worse than Solid ****!
#116 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/21/2013 12:21:42 PM | message detail
Hmm...

Just a few more notes:

The post on the LoL subreddit was made 10 minutes before the poll went live. By midnight pacific, the post was on the second page of the "all" subreddit, meaning that a lot more than just the usual LoL users were seeing the link. By 3am, it was on the front page of "all". By 7am, it had only dropped back to the second page.

Roughly 75% of ALL traffic on the poll page was directly from Reddit. That's factoring in the traffic from GameFAQs as well. Unless the alleged stuffers were able to beat our newly upgraded anti-cheating code AND made sure that their stuffing method came to us from Reddit and didn't just go directly to the poll page, it's highly unlikely that many, if any, of the votes were stuffed. Our upgraded code was able to not only stop the "Touhou stuffer", but it was able to identify exactly who this person was, and furthermore allow me to tie him to stuffed votes from prior contests. It's working, and it didn't detect any shenanigans in the results. I don't think you all truly understand how much traffic Reddit turns, in particular the LoL subreddit and especially the All subreddit.


Didn't say votes. Just traffic. Could well be true that more people saw the match than just voters. That is...frightening.
#117 | ShatteredElysium | Posted 8/21/2013 12:23:48 PM | message detail
Doesn't say unique traffic either. So could include people coming back to check the results after voting.
---
Crucifying my Oracle average one match at a time
#118 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/21/2013 12:25:17 PM | message detail
Does it count multiple clicks from the same ip or not? Maybe people just clicked many tomes to see the result
#119 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/21/2013 12:25:36 PM | message detail
Whoa, good showing for The Boss. She truly is the legendary soldier.

*salutes*
---
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg
#120 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/21/2013 12:25:56 PM | message detail
ShatteredElysium posted...
Doesn't say unique traffic either. So could include people coming back to check the results after voting.


Yeah, I can buy this. On the other hand, this could mean Reddit was interested in Draven's result enough to monitor it. That's even scarier than the possibility of an untapped base.
#121 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/21/2013 12:26:23 PM | message detail
Also LOL I moved up the Expert leaderboard again because I had Phoenix in 2nd over Mewtwo. Looks like not as many people switched off of Vincent as I expected...!
---
http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif
#122 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/21/2013 12:27:56 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Also LOL I moved up the Expert leaderboard again because I had Phoenix in 2nd over Mewtwo. Looks like not as many people switched off of Vincent as I expected...!


The only reason I didn't switch is for win-win situation!
If Mewtwo wins,screw my expert!
#123 | Zabie_W | Posted 8/21/2013 12:34:19 PM | message detail | (edited)
KanzarisKelshen posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Not wanting to open a can of worms, but what are the arguments for cheating in the Draven match other than, the guy I didn't like won so it must be cheating?

10-50% of the poll being stuffed would be pretty obvious for SBAllen and while technically it would be possible to disguise them it would almost have to be to the point where you would not be able to tell the difference between legit and fake which then reverts back to the whole "they cheated because I didn't like the results" thing.


Lopen's rallystats, which you can find in Allen's topic. Allen did mention that 75% of all the poll traffic came from Reddit though, which means something interesting: According to him, the actual match would have gotten only like 21k votes, one of the absolute lowest votals of the contest. Either there's way more GameFAQS/Reddit crossover than we think there is, or people decided to just not bother to show up except for Reddit that day.


Japan had 55% votes for Draven while he got ~35% of votes on the first round, more or less the same % as Chie

There's no League of Legend in Japan.

LoL Reddit is not big on Japan, language barrier and all that.

There where 2 big Japan characters on the poll and they got less % (on Japan, mind you) than Chie Satonaka? No. I don't buy that. As much as I love Persona 4 and Chie (she's my favourite character) I just can't see Japan saying Chie > Ryu

And if that happened on Japan it can have perfectly have happened on the rest of the world. I'm not saying that he had 40.000 stuffed votes (even with 40.000 he would have still won against MMX by a small margin) but there was cheating on Draven's followers
#124 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/21/2013 12:32:09 PM | message detail
This is making Wrex's result look even weirder.

Epona is now on watch too. 60-40ing Mordin is not looking quite as good anymore.
---
Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
#125 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/21/2013 12:34:11 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
This is making Wrex's result look even weirder.

Epona is now on watch too. 60-40ing Mordin is not looking quite as good anymore.


Ike got dis
---
http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif
#126 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/21/2013 12:35:01 PM | message detail
Zabie_W posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Not wanting to open a can of worms, but what are the arguments for cheating in the Draven match other than, the guy I didn't like won so it must be cheating?

10-50% of the poll being stuffed would be pretty obvious for SBAllen and while technically it would be possible to disguise them it would almost have to be to the point where you would not be able to tell the difference between legit and fake which then reverts back to the whole "they cheated because I didn't like the results" thing.


Lopen's rallystats, which you can find in Allen's topic. Allen did mention that 75% of all the poll traffic came from Reddit though, which means something interesting: According to him, the actual match would have gotten only like 21k votes, one of the absolute lowest votals of the contest. Either there's way more GameFAQS/Reddit crossover than we think there is, or people decided to just not bother to show up except for Reddit that day.


Japan had 55% votes for Draven while he got ~35% of votes on the first round, more or less the same % as Chie

There's no League of Legend in Japan.

LoL Reddit is not big on Japan, language barrier and all that.

There where 2 big Japan characters on the poll and they got less % (on Japan, mind you) than Chie Satonaka? No. I don't buy that. As much as I love Persona 4 and Chie (she's my favourite character) I just can't see Japan saying Chie > Ryu

And if that happened on Japan it can have perfectly have happened on the rest of the world. I'm not saying that he had 40.000 stuffed votes (even with 40.000 he would have still won against MMX by a small margin) but there was cheating on Draven's followers


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409274

LoL is getting big in Japan too. It's only nascent, but it's showing fast growth. Matter of time until Japan gets its own server considering South Am has two now.
#127 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/21/2013 12:37:35 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Not wanting to open a can of worms, but what are the arguments for cheating in the Draven match other than, the guy I didn't like won so it must be cheating?

10-50% of the poll being stuffed would be pretty obvious for SBAllen and while technically it would be possible to disguise them it would almost have to be to the point where you would not be able to tell the difference between legit and fake which then reverts back to the whole "they cheated because I didn't like the results" thing.


I still think Indonesia is the key. It's not feasible that there are so few redditors and LOLers in Indonesia that they couldn't swing the voting in Draven's favor there each time. I'm guessing someone cheated somehow and for some reason the stuffing doesn't work from Indonesian proxies or VPNs or whatever.

That aside, Lopen proved pretty clearly that a ton of votes were being stuffed.
#128 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/21/2013 12:39:21 PM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Not wanting to open a can of worms, but what are the arguments for cheating in the Draven match other than, the guy I didn't like won so it must be cheating?

10-50% of the poll being stuffed would be pretty obvious for SBAllen and while technically it would be possible to disguise them it would almost have to be to the point where you would not be able to tell the difference between legit and fake which then reverts back to the whole "they cheated because I didn't like the results" thing.


I still think Indonesia is the key. It's not feasible that there are so few redditors and LOLers in Indonesia that they couldn't swing the voting in Draven's favor there each time. I'm guessing someone cheated somehow and for some reason the stuffing doesn't work from Indonesian proxies or VPNs or whatever.

That aside, Lopen proved pretty clearly that a ton of votes were being stuffed.


https://www.facebook.com/pages/League-Of-Legend-Indonesia/122170811163332

170+ on the english page. I could see it. Not impossible.
#129 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/21/2013 12:40:04 PM | message detail
Chart from the night match:

Time | Phoenix | Vincent | Mewtwo | Votes
0:05 | 29.07% | 23.64% | 47.29% | 922
1:00 | 30.98% | 23.73% | 45.29% | 5507
2:00 | 29.45% | 26.22% | 44.34% | 3284
3:00 | 30.39% | 25.76% | 43.85% | 2333
4:00 | 30.27% | 24.57% | 45.16% | 1860
5:00 | 32.61% | 26.40% | 41.00% | 1466
6:00 | 30.28% | 27.32% | 42.40% | 1453
7:00 | 29.10% | 29.16% | 41.75% | 1684
8:00 | 31.17% | 25.73% | 43.10% | 1912
9:00 | 28.04% | 27.19% | 44.77% | 2111
10:00 | 29.14% | 26.23% | 44.64% | 2097
11:00 | 27.15% | 25.21% | 47.64% | 2225
12:00 | 29.93% | 26.59% | 43.49% | 2065

Well, this is quite a thing. Mewtwo steals the board vote from Phoenix. Vincent steals one hour from Phoenix. A dark day of law is coming.

X-Stats:

Mewtwo – 50.00%
Phoenix Wright – 40.32%
Vincent Valentine – 36.83%
Marth – 36.19%
KOS-MOS – 29.58%
Nightmare – 24.76%
Zero – 15.23%
Dunban – 12.18%
Chester – 4.12%

Mewtwo's prediction percentage was 33.98%
---
http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.png
http://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png
#130 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/21/2013 12:40:51 PM | message detail
Indonesian Banjo sacrificed himself to preserve the integrity of Indonesia's results.

HAIL BANJO
---
[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]
#131 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/21/2013 12:41:11 PM | message detail
Darn, Vincent ended up above Marth. If only it was a day match!
---
~War~
#132 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/21/2013 12:43:16 PM | message detail
Current X-Stats:

Bowser – 50.00%
Sub-Zero – 40.27%
The Boss – 39.84%
Garrus Vakarian – 36.25%
Chrom – 31.47%
Meta Knight – 28.45%
Heavy – 27.92%
Archer – 20.25%
Frank West – 14.60%
---
http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif
#133 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/21/2013 12:45:33 PM | message detail
ya go my Archer
---
http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif
Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer)
#134 | Zabie_W | Posted 8/21/2013 12:48:08 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Zabie_W posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Not wanting to open a can of worms, but what are the arguments for cheating in the Draven match other than, the guy I didn't like won so it must be cheating?

10-50% of the poll being stuffed would be pretty obvious for SBAllen and while technically it would be possible to disguise them it would almost have to be to the point where you would not be able to tell the difference between legit and fake which then reverts back to the whole "they cheated because I didn't like the results" thing.


Lopen's rallystats, which you can find in Allen's topic. Allen did mention that 75% of all the poll traffic came from Reddit though, which means something interesting: According to him, the actual match would have gotten only like 21k votes, one of the absolute lowest votals of the contest. Either there's way more GameFAQS/Reddit crossover than we think there is, or people decided to just not bother to show up except for Reddit that day.


Japan had 55% votes for Draven while he got ~35% of votes on the first round, more or less the same % as Chie

There's no League of Legend in Japan.

LoL Reddit is not big on Japan, language barrier and all that.

There where 2 big Japan characters on the poll and they got less % (on Japan, mind you) than Chie Satonaka? No. I don't buy that. As much as I love Persona 4 and Chie (she's my favourite character) I just can't see Japan saying Chie > Ryu

And if that happened on Japan it can have perfectly have happened on the rest of the world. I'm not saying that he had 40.000 stuffed votes (even with 40.000 he would have still won against MMX by a small margin) but there was cheating on Draven's followers


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409274

LoL is getting big in Japan too. It's only nascent, but it's showing fast growth. Matter of time until Japan gets its own server considering South Am has two now.


Interesting, however, I just can't buy it. If it was the other way arround, If Ryu/MMX got 35% on Japan and Chie 20% I could conced that LoL starting to become popular in Japan might have been capable of doing that. However, we are talking about Ryu and a rally on Reddit.

Unless there's a reaaaaaaaaaaally small amount of people voting from Japan that makes the % sway really fast, I just cannot belive that, being reddit the main factor of Draven's victory, made him win even in Japan against Ryu and X when Chie got a higher % against him. I'm not saying it's Impossible, but I just find it extremely hard to belive.
#135 | TyrekeEvans13 | Posted 8/21/2013 12:48:53 PM | message detail
Something I don't understand. If so many people are going to insist Allen doesn't know what he is doing and/or is knowingly lying and let Draven get 40k+ stuffed votes, why even continue bothering with this contest and remaining so riled up about it? If the integrity is so shot at this point then what IS the point?
---
The King of Kings
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9971/744sptp062727c1tyrekeem.jpg
#136 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/21/2013 12:50:17 PM | message detail
Because anybody who cares enough to post on a board devoted to internet popularity contests is stupid.
---
~War~
#137 | TyrekeEvans13 | Posted 8/21/2013 12:50:26 PM | message detail
Oh, and I guarantee that the majority of Japan votes aren't even from Japanese. Most of them will come from American servicemembers/dependents who are stationed in Yokosuka or Okinwa. There is absolutely no reason for any Japanese natives to come to GameFAQs.
---
The King of Kings
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9971/744sptp062727c1tyrekeem.jpg
#138 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/21/2013 12:53:11 PM | message detail
If Chrom is equal to Lucina, this doesn't say good things about Bowser's strength. It estimates Sonic to get about 60-40 on him.
---
[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]
#139 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/21/2013 12:54:20 PM | message detail
Pretty much. We already know that at least half of them aren't Japanese. That would go double for a social site like Reddit. A majority of the people accessing reddit from Japan are going to be people originally from other countries so what's popular there isn't relevant.
---
A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice.
#140 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/21/2013 12:54:20 PM | message detail
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Because anybody who cares enough to post on a board devoted to internet popularity contests is stupid.


the irony of this post is hilarious
#141 | Janus5000 | Posted 8/21/2013 12:55:40 PM | message detail
Bowser's 60-40ing Sub-Zero? So that puts him around Auron's level...

Sonic is doomed next round hahahaha
---
Fight like dragons, have no fear, swords are made of STEEEEEEEEL~
#142 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/21/2013 12:56:57 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Because anybody who cares enough to post on a board devoted to internet popularity contests is stupid.


the irony of this post is hilarious


Pfft, there's no irony, I'll openly admit that deciding to ever post here was not one of my smarter ideas, but anyone who can't enjoy something because they think it's stupid is pitiful.
---
~War~
#143 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/21/2013 12:58:41 PM | message detail
Zabie_W posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Zabie_W posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Not wanting to open a can of worms, but what are the arguments for cheating in the Draven match other than, the guy I didn't like won so it must be cheating?

10-50% of the poll being stuffed would be pretty obvious for SBAllen and while technically it would be possible to disguise them it would almost have to be to the point where you would not be able to tell the difference between legit and fake which then reverts back to the whole "they cheated because I didn't like the results" thing.


Lopen's rallystats, which you can find in Allen's topic. Allen did mention that 75% of all the poll traffic came from Reddit though, which means something interesting: According to him, the actual match would have gotten only like 21k votes, one of the absolute lowest votals of the contest. Either there's way more GameFAQS/Reddit crossover than we think there is, or people decided to just not bother to show up except for Reddit that day.


Japan had 55% votes for Draven while he got ~35% of votes on the first round, more or less the same % as Chie

There's no League of Legend in Japan.

LoL Reddit is not big on Japan, language barrier and all that.

There where 2 big Japan characters on the poll and they got less % (on Japan, mind you) than Chie Satonaka? No. I don't buy that. As much as I love Persona 4 and Chie (she's my favourite character) I just can't see Japan saying Chie > Ryu

And if that happened on Japan it can have perfectly have happened on the rest of the world. I'm not saying that he had 40.000 stuffed votes (even with 40.000 he would have still won against MMX by a small margin) but there was cheating on Draven's followers


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409274

LoL is getting big in Japan too. It's only nascent, but it's showing fast growth. Matter of time until Japan gets its own server considering South Am has two now.


Interesting, however, I just can't buy it. If it was the other way arround, If Ryu/MMX got 35% on Japan and Chie 20% I could conced that LoL starting to become popular in Japan might have been capable of doing that. However, we are talking about Ryu and a rally on Reddit.

Unless there's a reaaaaaaaaaaally small amount of people voting from Japan that makes the % sway really fast, I just cannot belive that, being reddit the main factor of Draven's victory, made him win even in Japan against Ryu and X when Chie got a higher % against him. I'm not saying it's Impossible, but I just find it extremely hard to belive.


Doesn't Japan have less votes than Indonesia, even? I can totally buy it.
#144 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/21/2013 12:59:20 PM | message detail
Ok you two stop quoting each other.

Start a new conversation chain, geez.
---
~War~
#145 | pjbasis | Posted 8/21/2013 1:04:16 PM | message detail
Since Chester is in this ninepack we got some true raw stats here.
Barring Draven suddenly not materializing a rally and getting crushed by Link or something.

Mewtwo - 23.30’
Phoenix - 15.74’
Vincent - 13.58’
Marth - 12.82’
KOS-MOS - 9.11’
Nightmare - 6.97’
Zero - 4.19’
Dunban - 2.69’
Chester - 1.00’
---
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png
SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0
#146 | LeonhartFone | Posted 8/21/2013 1:04:39 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
If Chrom is equal to Lucina, this doesn't say good things about Bowser's strength. It estimates Sonic to get about 60-40 on him.


And if Chrom is equal to Tharja, then Shepard > Bowser is on the table...!
---
Leonhart posting from his phone
#147 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/21/2013 1:05:36 PM | message detail
Wait...

How many Chesters was Caim worth?

Also we're going to need three sets of Final Chester Stats, one through Chester, then the adjusted through Dancin', and the hyper-adjusted through Caim.
---
~War~
#148 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/21/2013 1:09:12 PM | message detail | (edited)
An hour into the quasi-'ASV' and the match is still deadlocked around the 60-80 votes range. Wonder when there'll be a move in either direction.

Edit: Oh, and if anyone's wondering, Boss has to increase 0.25% more relative to Bowser for us to put Amaterasu above the Koopa King.
---
http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif
Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer)
#149 | pjbasis | Posted 8/21/2013 1:08:17 PM | message detail
When Sonic and Mewtwo face off we'll be able to see how accurate the bonus poll was in terms of Caim vs. Chester
---
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png
SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0
#150 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/21/2013 1:10:47 PM | message detail
Also KH, there's something you need to realize.

Your Amaterasu projections are pre-DogFAQs.

Post-DogFAQs Ammy is gonna be taking down Mario regardless of who the third character is.
---
~War~