Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1123

#51 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 8/21/2013 10:07:02 AM | message detail
is the Boss Fodderline official now?
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#52 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/21/2013 10:08:33 AM | message detail
Not if she's boosted enough to be equal with Sub-Zero! dangit Boss
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#53 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 8/21/2013 10:08:59 AM | message detail
Thinking Boss is too strong to be the fodder line, at least right now.
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#54 | tgs2 | Posted 8/21/2013 10:09:53 AM | message detail
Fodderline people don't threaten to beat Sub Zero. She's a legit midcard now.
#55 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 8/21/2013 10:10:37 AM | message detail
If The Boss pulls off an upset against Sub Zero in a day match. Just give her the medal already, one heck of an impressive performance by arguably the best character of MGS saga.
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#56 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/21/2013 10:13:10 AM | message detail
Pac-Man Fodder Line finally official, what a great day
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#57 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2013 10:13:47 AM | message detail
The Boss has come a long way from almost getting tripled by Tifa.
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#58 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/21/2013 10:20:05 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
The Boss has come a long way from almost getting tripled by Tifa.


Indeed. And this pretty much confirms Celes as legit (though looking respectable against Knuckles helps in that regard).
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#59 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/21/2013 10:21:25 AM | message detail
Fayt_Esteed posted...
charmander6000 posted...
The Boss has come a long way from almost getting tripled by Tifa.


Indeed. And this pretty much confirms Celes as legit (though looking respectable against Knuckles helps in that regard).


The Boss/Celes was seven years ago, this match doesn't have any bearing on that. That's like saying because Mario's looking good that Crono's also looking great because he beat the hell out of Mario nine years ago.
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#60 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/21/2013 10:24:14 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
The Boss/Celes was seven years ago, this match doesn't have any bearing on that. That's like saying because Mario's looking good that Crono's also looking great because he beat the hell out of Mario nine years ago.


what, I thought you were going to use old Mario/Crono matches to back up Crono>Pikachu :P
#61 | The Mana Sword | Posted 8/21/2013 10:25:17 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
That's like saying because Mario's looking good that Crono's also looking great because he beat the hell out of Mario nine years ago.


*5 years ago tbqh
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#62 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/21/2013 10:25:24 AM | message detail
*Votes, checks poll*

CHAOS
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What the HECK is going on with the matches?! I'm starting to believe Wylvane's theory of gamefaqs regulars bailing in disgust and being replaced by the reddit army. This result makes even less sense than Phoenix>Vincent!
#63 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/21/2013 10:26:38 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Fayt_Esteed posted...
charmander6000 posted...
The Boss has come a long way from almost getting tripled by Tifa.


Indeed. And this pretty much confirms Celes as legit (though looking respectable against Knuckles helps in that regard).


The Boss/Celes was seven years ago, this match doesn't have any bearing on that. That's like saying because Mario's looking good that Crono's also looking great because he beat the hell out of Mario nine years ago.


I'll admit, that's definitely true. The female bracket is just weird on all levels.
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#64 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/21/2013 10:27:14 AM | message detail
100 vote barrier breached, c'mon Boss you can turn it around

just catch some fire with the ASV, um, somehow
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#65 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/21/2013 10:27:19 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
*Votes, checks poll*

CHAOS
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What the HECK is going on with the matches?! I'm starting to believe Wylvane's theory of gamefaqs regulars bailing in disgust and being replaced by the reddit army. This result makes even less sense than Phoenix>Vincent!


how, Bowser>Sub-Zero>The Boss is completely expected
maybe the %s aren't, but hey
#66 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2013 10:27:49 AM | message detail
How does this make less sense than Phoenix>Vincent

We were all commenting on how well The Boss looked last round.

Also if 1 year can change a character's strength, imagine what 3 can do.
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#67 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/21/2013 10:28:03 AM | message detail
This happened with Vyse too. Right after people say he's the line, he goes and radically changes his strength level!

,,,Come to think of it:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4525

So from Rivalry Rumble, that's:
-The Boss is legit.
-Seifer bombing.
-Pokemon Trainer Blue is actually strong.

I can't wait to see how Chris Redfield do- OH WAIT HAHAHAHA
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#68 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 8/21/2013 10:28:39 AM | message detail
I can get on board the Pac-Man fodderline
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#69 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2013 10:28:54 AM | message detail
This happened with Vyse too. Right after people say he's the line, he goes and radically changes his strength level!

Funny thing is we did the same for Kefka too.
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#70 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/21/2013 10:30:00 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
*Votes, checks poll*

CHAOS
****ING
SEASON


What the HECK is going on with the matches?! I'm starting to believe Wylvane's theory of gamefaqs regulars bailing in disgust and being replaced by the reddit army. This result makes even less sense than Phoenix>Vincent!


how, Bowser>Sub-Zero>The Boss is completely expected
maybe the %s aren't, but hey


Percentage matters! If this match was 33.90/33.70/32.40%, it would be a complete shocker as well.
#71 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/21/2013 10:31:01 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
How does this make less sense than Phoenix>Vincent

We were all commenting on how well The Boss looked last round.

Also if 1 year can change a character's strength, imagine what 3 can do.


Vincent's bomba can at least be partially blamed on the pic plus Phoenix getting access to a new fanbase. Sub-Zero has every reason to boost hard though, so it doesn't make sense for him to be much weaker and The Boss to have a shot at challenging him.
#72 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/21/2013 10:31:34 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
This happened with Vyse too. Right after people say he's the line, he goes and radically changes his strength level!

Funny thing is we did the same for Kefka too.


Kefka's matches never make sense.
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#73 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/21/2013 10:32:37 AM | message detail
Boss snaps the lead back under 100, and Sub's on the cusp of breaking 40% on Bowser.
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#74 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/21/2013 10:36:05 AM | message detail
Welp, time to bail on my Isaac Fodder Line idea. I'd rather not risk Isaac getting a boost and threatening Tidus or something.
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#75 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 8/21/2013 10:39:24 AM | message detail
Tidus fodderline!
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#76 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2013 10:41:11 AM | message detail
Sub-Zero has every reason to boost hard though

Why? This is like his longest gap between games since his first contest and I don't think a MK games has been announced in the future either.
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#77 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2013 10:42:36 AM | message detail
Maybe we could go with a percentage, like if you can't break 20% on the winner (excluding exceptions like Draven) then you are fodder.
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#78 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/21/2013 10:43:38 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Sub-Zero has every reason to boost hard though

Why? This is like his longest gap between games since his first contest and I don't think a MK games has been announced in the future either.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Kombat_%282011_video_game%29

Biggest MK game in forever, exposed him to new fans, no reason for him not to roid since 2010.
#79 | StarStormScream | Posted 8/21/2013 10:45:00 AM | message detail | (edited)
charmander6000 posted...
Sub-Zero has every reason to boost hard though

Why? This is like his longest gap between games since his first contest and I don't think a MK games has been announced in the future either.


MK9 wasn't out during the last contest, so this is the first chance we got to see him & Scorp with it.

EDIT: Kanz beat me to it
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#80 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 8/21/2013 10:57:21 AM | message detail
Just imagine, if Allen had used Paulg's MK3 pic (yes, he submitted non-ninja Subby), we'd be looking at Boss > Subby right now.
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#81 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/21/2013 10:58:16 AM | message detail
Is this gonna be yet another episode of "nobody makes a move"?
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#82 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/21/2013 11:01:54 AM | message detail
Ultimaphazon posted...
Just imagine, if Allen had used Paulg's MK3 pic (yes, he submitted non-ninja Subby), we'd be looking at Boss > Subby right now.


Worst guy ever, he keeps getting worse the more I learn of him, goddamn
#83 | The Real Truth | Posted 8/21/2013 11:02:30 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
*Votes, checks poll*

CHAOS
****ING
SEASON


What the HECK is going on with the matches?! I'm starting to believe Wylvane's theory of gamefaqs regulars bailing in disgust and being replaced by the reddit army. This result makes even less sense than Phoenix>Vincent!


how, Bowser>Sub-Zero>The Boss is completely expected
maybe the %s aren't, but hey


The % is pretty expected. You guys are estimating % based on 1vs1 matches for some weird reason. Sub-Zero is more casual friendly. Bowser is taking his votes. The Boss has more of a hardcore fanbase.
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#84 | Not_Wylvane (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/21/2013 11:03:22 AM | message detail
Ultimaphazon posted...
Just imagine, if Allen had used Paulg's MK3 pic (yes, he submitted non-ninja Subby), we'd be looking at Boss > Subby right now.


So how long until we hear people b****ing at Allen for not sabotaging the pic here?

The more matches there are that make no sense, the better this contest gets. Vincent completely tanking to Phoenix Wright? The Boss hanging even with Sub-Zero? This s*** is insane, and I can't wait for Spyro > Theatrhythm Sephiroth.
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#85 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/21/2013 11:04:53 AM | message detail
Boss will have to hope to actually gain a little traction with the ASV. Unlike most night-oriented characters, MGS doesn't really have a good SNV.

As for Luigi/Big Boss implications (assuming, lol, no sabotage), you could read this as good for either side. If you think this is just Boss being underrated from 2010, Luigi's looking real good as he should naturally be underrated as well. If you think this is Boss boosting from MGS3-related stuff, Luigi backers should be real worried as to what the star of Metal Gear Solid 3 might be set to do.
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#86 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 8/21/2013 11:05:46 AM | message detail
#87 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2013 11:05:58 AM | message detail
Speaking of Spyro, anyone giving him half a chance against Morrigan?

What if Morrigan becomes TJF-less?
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#88 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/21/2013 11:06:32 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
So how long until we hear people b****ing at Allen for not sabotaging the pic here?

The more matches there are that make no sense, the better this contest gets. Vincent completely tanking to Phoenix Wright? The Boss hanging even with Sub-Zero? This s*** is insane, and I can't wait for Spyro > Theatrhythm Sephiroth.


the real question is what the hell is going on with you
#89 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/21/2013 11:06:39 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Ultimaphazon posted...
Just imagine, if Allen had used Paulg's MK3 pic (yes, he submitted non-ninja Subby), we'd be looking at Boss > Subby right now.


Worst guy ever, he keeps getting worse the more I learn of him, goddamn


You, they guy who single-handedly is trying to get a character that no one here cares for to run over the bracket, claims that someone else is the worst guy ever? Your attempt at fixing the bracket had more potential (and did more) than any pic sabotage ever could.
#90 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/21/2013 11:08:08 AM | message detail
The Real Truth posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
*Votes, checks poll*

CHAOS
****ING
SEASON


What the HECK is going on with the matches?! I'm starting to believe Wylvane's theory of gamefaqs regulars bailing in disgust and being replaced by the reddit army. This result makes even less sense than Phoenix>Vincent!


how, Bowser>Sub-Zero>The Boss is completely expected
maybe the %s aren't, but hey


The % is pretty expected. You guys are estimating % based on 1vs1 matches for some weird reason. Sub-Zero is more casual friendly. Bowser is taking his votes. The Boss has more of a hardcore fanbase.


We've seen this happen in multiways too, the comparison doesn't hold. Sub-Zero got 45% on Sonic in a multiway while The Boss went 50/50 with Tails in a multiway.
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#91 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/21/2013 11:08:12 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
You, they guy who single-handedly is trying to get a character that no one here cares for to run over the bracket, claims that someone else is the worst guy ever? Your attempt at fixing the bracket had more potential (and did more) than any pic sabotage ever could.


"it's only bad if it's not me doing it!"
#92 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/21/2013 11:08:57 AM | message detail
Let's be realistic, Kanz did not single-handedly bring 50k+ people to this site...
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#93 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/21/2013 11:10:28 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Let's be realistic, Kanz did not single-handedly bring 50k+ people to this site...


If there's no Kanz, there's no reddit rally. Assuming all of the votes were legit (which I don't assume in the slightest, but that's a separate issue), then yes, he is directly responsible for brining in 50K 1-time voters.
#94 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/21/2013 11:11:30 AM | message detail
I honestly don't understand why you people even bother responding to Kanz at this point.
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#95 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/21/2013 11:11:58 AM | message detail
Every time Sub-Zero nudges over 40% on Bowser and that 100 vote mark, Boss puts him in an armbar. No mercy.
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#96 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/21/2013 11:17:05 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Ultimaphazon posted...
Just imagine, if Allen had used Paulg's MK3 pic (yes, he submitted non-ninja Subby), we'd be looking at Boss > Subby right now.


So how long until we hear people b****ing at Allen for not sabotaging the pic here?

The more matches there are that make no sense, the better this contest gets. Vincent completely tanking to Phoenix Wright? The Boss hanging even with Sub-Zero? This s*** is insane, and I can't wait for Spyro > Theatrhythm Sephiroth.


See, this is just wrong. The more matches that make no sense without outside interference the better the results. A completely unpredictable mess because our admin has his head so far up his own ass he can't see light, is not fun.
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#97 | LOLContests | Posted 8/21/2013 11:29:26 AM | message detail
Damn, impressive showing by The Boss here. This makes the Bosses' margin of victory over Tidus/Jecht make more sense now. I realized after the Rivalry Rumbles that 1 game rivalries (like the FF characters or The Bosses*) were just the average popularity of their respective characters. The Bosses Vs. Tidus/Jecht was one of the only hiccups in that theory, so nice to see this match redeem it.


I wonder if The Boss has been hidden all along:

-2006: Tifa overperforms due to possible FF/MGS SFF and/or 1 Seed overperformance
-2007: The Boss/Tails both underperform since Vincent/Zelda were obviously both advancing.
-2010: Don't really have an explanation for what happened here. Yeah being in day match hurt her, but Day Matches still got ~70% of the votals of a 24 hour match, so it shouldn't have mattered too much.

*I've never played a MGS1 game except 1, so I'm not sure how many games the two of them are in, but I think the rivlary's mostly the 1 game right?)
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#98 | Sorozone | Posted 8/21/2013 11:33:17 AM | message detail
For the record The Boss's rally on the MGS subreddit it on its frontpage now, #3.

Don't know if it's enough for her to actually win here, because the subreddit is relatively small, but it's probably helping with the stalls.
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#99 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/21/2013 11:38:30 AM | message detail
Stalls nothing, Boss is flat out cutting. Is Sub-Zero going to need the ASV to beat her?

...is she going to beat him with the ASV
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#100 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/21/2013 11:41:18 AM | message detail
[–]GeneralKazbar 2 points 58 minutes ago

Just voted for her, all MGS lovers, please do your part and vote for her.


Stay classy, board 8 ralliers.
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