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What a match to exist. I suspect charmander's list of characters who could beat Link just expanded. There's a likely drop for Vincent according to KOS-MOS, but this bad picture is also pretty legendary. Vincent looks like he's cosplaying as Phoenix Wright...and that's not a good look when facing Phoenix with OBJECTION in his pic. I don't have an explanation for Mewtwo though, unless KH cheated. --- T H E S T A B L E - bring on Epona! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
Karma Hunter posted... I'm actually more displeased with this than the Draven rally - that's something the contest rules tell you has the potential to happen right off the bat, and if it is I may dislike it, but so be it. It's because you can't rally FF7. Bacon wants rallies. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
Karma Hunter posted... I'm actually more displeased with this than the Draven rally - that's something the contest rules tell you has the potential to happen right off the bat, and if it is I may dislike it, but so be it. I think it's safe to say Mewtwo>Vincent would have happened, even though Mewtwo isn't really looking that hot compared to Phoenix here. I suppose you can say there's some gray area, as Solid **** causes Snake to underperform about 10 points, and this is even worse than Solid **** so it's possible it's hurting Vincent 15 points. Unlikely IMO though. I could see Donte hurting Dante to the level of 15 points though, so such a thing may not be impossible. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Oh yeah good luck with the Link rally We are talking about 64 online people at the subreddit,which is 1/15 of the current online in the Pokemon one,which is 1/15 of the LoL one but whatever Or maybe go rally in the most popular Zelda forums in Zelda Universe,it got a whopping 163 online people! (130 guests)...which Serebii forums got 700+ now When will you realize that the power of Gamefaqs is not enough and we need a character that is easy to rally..? |
Nanis23 posted... Who are the idiots that t-down the reddit rally? NO ONE ELSE CAN WIN. We have one shot at this, and it is the demi god himself. We need to T-Down their Draven rally, and rally LINK everywhere we can on the net. That is the ONLY way Draven doesn't win, no Pokemon, or (other) Nintendo character, or Square character, or ANYTHING ELSE, has the strength (even boosted) to survive the insanely blatant cheating that BSAllen is allowing here. And by god that means T downing EVERY other rally this board puts up on Reddit that hinders Link's efforts. --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
If
Mewtwo > Vincent in a fair fight, maybe Vincent is lucky to get this
picture. It's gives him a convenient excuse for losing. --- Pokemon VGC2013 US National - 39th place Pokemon VGC2013 Worlds LCQ - Top 32 |
I
look forward to reading the B8 Wiki in about half a year. I can't
imagine the **** that is going to be written about this contest. Draven
winning! Age of reddit rallies! The worst match pic since Sprite Snake!
And I'm sure there is more craziness yet to come! --- FFIXOwner Character Battle IX Bracket: 79/93 |
creativename posted... Karma Hunter posted...I'm actually more displeased with this than the Draven rally - that's something the contest rules tell you has the potential to happen right off the bat, and if it is I may dislike it, but so be it. Oh, I believe that Mewtwo > Vincent has a great chance of happening in a fair match. I did take the pick, crazy as it was. But now there's this lingering doubt that will always be in my mind. That little voice that says 'you'll never really know if he could have done it', and then I'll start drinking and get fired from yet another job because I just can't hold 'em down because of this picture --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
The Owner of FF9 posted... I look forward to reading the B8 Wiki in about half a year. I can't imagine the **** that is going to be written about this contest. Draven winning! Age of reddit rallies! The worst match pic since Sprite Snake! And I'm sure there is more craziness yet to come! You think Ulti is gonna make a PCA about a multiway contest with a potential LoL winner? Seems unlikely. |
14_and_counting posted... Nanis23 posted...Who are the idiots that t-down the reddit rally? Link is only strong in those contests because he is strong in this site Draven got more votes by himself than every other match vote totals You know what this means? That even if every person that regulary votes will vote for Link,he will still lose Where do you plan to rally for Link then...? |
14_and_counting posted... Nanis23 posted...Who are the idiots that t-down the reddit rally? Except none of these rallies would actually hinder Link's efforts, because Link faces Draven NEXT ROUND. That much has already been locked. Any rallying that happens for the rest of this round is just an insurance policy in case Link can't pull it off. Not that we need any more rallying in advance of Link's match. Pikachu and Charizard are going to reach Round 3 on their own strength, and Mewtwo's next match isn't until after Link vs. Draven. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
Team Rocket Elite posted... If Mewtwo > Vincent in a fair fight, maybe Vincent is lucky to get this picture. It's gives him a convenient excuse for losing. I guess, but we'll never know if Mewtwo would've been able to upend Vincent in a fair fight... It'd probably have been debatable as opposed to the foregone conclusion we're witnessing now. --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Nanis23 posted... 14_and_counting posted...Nanis23 posted...Who are the idiots that t-down the reddit rally? The KEY is to downvote their rally over everything else. Without that everything else is pointless (or hack Reddit and shut the ***** down for the match).... After that though, it is still an absolute WAR that we have on our hands, and the only person inherently stronger enough is Link, we need every vote that GameFAQs can muster (which is clearly Zelda) and then as many votes as possible (because every vote will count) across the net. No one else has a chance, it is up to the Hylian Hammer. --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... 14_and_counting posted...Nanis23 posted...Who are the idiots that t-down the reddit rally? Yes they will, they will desensitize people to the rallies. --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
Now if only XY was released a month earlier... |
14_and_counting posted... Nanis23 posted...14_and_counting posted...Nanis23 posted...Who are the idiots that t-down the reddit rally? Man, you'd think the fate of the world rests on Link's shoulders. --- FFIXOwner Character Battle IX Bracket: 79/93 |
Sometimes
when I'm walking through the rain and I get lost on my way back to the
shelter I'll take out my tattered wallet and look at the picture when I
think no one's looking. http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5229.jpg And for a split second I'll wonder, who is that Neo cosplayer in the middle?, and then I'll remember and break down and cry. Tears streaming down my cheeks intermingling with the acidic rainwater, I lose consciousness and pray to never see the light again --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Can someone send him a better Vincent picture? I want Mewtwo to win but I admit it's not fair |
Nanis23 posted... Can someone send him a better Vincent picture? We did. He had six choices, but Allen chose this thing. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! The artist formerly known as greatone10. |
14_and_counting posted... TsunamiXXVIII posted...14_and_counting posted...Nanis23 posted...Who are the idiots that t-down the reddit rally? Well, then, it's a good thing that the next rally Board 8 does is going to be the one for Link. Seriously, you think we needed any Round 2 rallies other than this one? Pikachu, Blue, and Charizard all have super-easy matches. Magus > Otacon and DK > Lightning ensured it--both Pikachu and Charizard benefit from favorable SFF situations. Blue's match was always going to be easy--too easy, actually, because he'll get in Pikachu's way against Sora. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
ZenOfThunder posted... http://i.imgur.com/eaH1app.png He should because that is really, really, really good. I'm a little confused by Link's pose though, is he in the midst of throwing his sword? With his right hand? Because he's supposed to be a lefty, no? Doesn't really matter I guess. I also thought Shepard was Kratos when I first looked at the pic (I think it's because of the red/white pattern on his shoulder) but looking at it again and because of context I quickly realized it was Shepard. Karma Hunter posted... Sometimes when I'm walking through the rain and I get lost on my way back to the shelter I'll take out my tattered wallet and look at the picture when I think no one's looking. :D This is definitely one for the history books. --- Congratulations Solid Snake, our CBIX champion! |
But
of course I will regain consciousness again. Chained to this body - the
punishment that's been given to me, yes, I remember that phrase... Mister Hunter, we found you face down in the alley behind the liquor store... The young lady tries to reassure my fears, almost as if she's psychic... PSYCHIC LIKE MEWTWO "Get away from me!" I'll roar, lunging out of bed with the crazed manic pace of a wildman. The orderlies are on top of me but I've seen their tricks one too many times and coolly gouge out their eyes with a nearby thumbtack, its brass shine glinting in the light like a certain attorney's badge. "Overruled," I'll one-liner, sticking the thumbtack onto my left collar. then I jump out the window --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
So Vincent really is as weak as R1 suggests. Quick, what do Mewtwo and Phoenix get on Sephiroth assuming that he and Vincent are constant from 2010? --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Karma Hunter posted... But of course I will regain consciousness again. Chained to this body - the punishment that's been given to me, yes, I remember that phrase... what |
I'm trying to explain what effect the picture is having guys --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
WTH is that picture. Thanks for sabotaging my expert bracket Allen. --- *shrug* |
Karma Hunter posted... But of course I will regain consciousness again. Chained to this body - the punishment that's been given to me, yes, I remember that phrase... You don't know how many years I've wanted to see you type those words. --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
AxemRedRanger posted... Marth is a Smash leech that gets some votes from his games, but probably not much. The older FE games with Marth in them never came to America, they basically suck these days, and nobody has played them. Even people going back through the Japan-only games with ROMs and translation patches generally just skip Marth's games and go straight to FE4 or later. The Shadow Dragon remake on DS came out in the west but it also sucked and was VERY negatively received by the fanbase and has the ratings and reviews to prove it. It might have even hurt him; in addition to the game sucking, Marth is pretty boring there, he's a required unit but pretty bad at combat, and "that guy from Melee and Brawl" might very well have preferable. This makes me think that if Roy got into one of these, he'd likely be the weakest FE character ever. Hell, I'd easily take Ness > Roy without thinking twice. --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
If Marth and Ness ever went head-to-head I'd pick Ness without really thinking about it. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
I
do wonder if people will end up getting snakebit on this match. Perhaps
either in over or underestimating VV. He'll probably be something like a
90/10 dog to Yoshi next contest, but could blow him out of the water.
Or we could have people mostly ignoring this match and taking him over
Dante in big numbers, and then he gets beat. It's interesting for the future at least, even though it sucks in pretty much every other conceivable way. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
This
is all purely hypothetical but an idea some may find appealing
nonetheless. First of all, let's face it, if Draven gets a rally as
large as the one he got this round (assuming it was legit) then Link has
no chance of actually winning. As others have said before repeated
rallies on Reddit or other sites would likely have diminished returns as
the number of rallies increase. Though this idea would likely mess with
the stats for other matches at least somewhat it may be an "acceptable
loss" if it means making a Draven Rally next round less likely to
succeed. Essentially, go to the LoL SubReddit every day/multiple times a day and post a "Rally" for Draven specifically when he doesn't have matches. I could tell you that if I've seen twenty fake rally posts for Draven on Reddit between now and his next match I would stop paying any attention to them eventually. Obviously this isn't particularly fool-proof but I somehow doubt that it would hurt Link (or Shepard?) in any meaningful way no matter what. Best of luck to all. |
lol I could see that plan working in a coordinated effort, but b8 can't coordinate anything >_> --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Alias1313 posted... This is all purely hypothetical but an idea some may find appealing nonetheless. First of all, let's face it, if Draven gets a rally as large as the one he got this round (assuming it was legit) then Link has no chance of actually winning. As others have said before repeated rallies on Reddit or other sites would likely have diminished returns as the number of rallies increase. Though this idea would likely mess with the stats for other matches at least somewhat it may be an "acceptable loss" if it means making a Draven Rally next round less likely to succeed. We've already spoke of doing that, it needs to be done. --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
I
think the quotes may be playing a role in this too. Vincent's is very
obscure (optional char and all) and certainly doesn't help his
recognizablity. Phoenix's quote is perfect, of course. And Mewtwo stands out so much... I almost voted for him before I even realized Vincent was in the poll. --- Fortune favors the bold. -Vergil |
MegatokyoEd posted... If Marth and Ness ever went head-to-head I'd pick Ness without really thinking about it. Now here's a question: would you take Marth over Peach, Epona, Ridley, Meta-Knight, or Mr. Game & Watch? --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Wow
Vincent. Can't even blame it on Mewtwo rallying, as he's not even
beating Phoenix by very much. Guess we blame the picture. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
I
thought people were vehemently supportive of the sprite round, didn't
the "sprite round should stay" option win in that poll that was
conducted a while ago. Really hope you guys would finally come to the realization that outright unrecognizable picture is deplorable no matter the circumstances. --- Zinsanity of the Helix Board |
Draven
probably got about 30-35k stuffed votes last round so uh, yeah, I don't
think the Reddit rally even matters at this point. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Lopen posted... Draven probably got about 30-35k stuffed votes last round so uh, yeah, I don't think the Reddit rally even matters at this point. Yeah, that's the problem - if like 50 of us made Reddit accounts and down voted the Draven/Link rally topic really early we could kill it before it got any momentum. The idea posted above about spamming rally topics to desensitize redditers is also a good one. But since the reddit thing is mostly BS and this is mostly stuffing, these things won't help as much. Lopen, where are you estimating 30-35k from? --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Wow wait what is that really the Vincent pic? Surely this is just as bad as using Instruction Manual Big Boss. --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. |
I
did analysis on what percentage of the extra votes MMX+Ryu were
getting. Their percentage tended to drop off substantially as the extra
vote intake decreased, to almost ridiculous levels (one half hour block
had them as low as 2.4% combined). Subtracting 200-300 from every update Draven got (stuffing seemed to decrease slightly as the match went on-- you can speculate) made them be relatively stable at 30% of rallied votes. For the record Chie + Jak did much better with their percentage of the rallied votes, implying there was less stuffing there. It's just guestimating to an extent but eh. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
No
stopping the rallies will work if we can pull it off. Without the rally
as a cover, any stuffing will be blatantly obvious and Bacon won't be
able to deny it. ...well, maybe he still will. I'll be there downvoting the rallies though (also be on the lookout for a decent window before the match, they'll probably start them early). --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
If
you're interested here are the extra vote stats for the first 7 hours
of the match. I may do the last 4 hours at some point, but I got enough
evidence of stupidity to make me not too interested in how the rest
went (also it was kinda time consuming). Ryu vs MMX vs Draven Time: Ryu+MMX %, (approximated extra votes) 0:35-1:05: 10% (4378 approximated extra votes) 1:05-1:35: 10.3% (4878) 1:35-2:05: 11.9% (4106) 2:05-2:35: 12.4% (3620) 2:35-3:05: 7.9% (2838) 3:05-3:35: 12.3% (3259) 3:35-4:05: 8.4% (2481) 4:05-4:35: 5.8% (2221) 4:35-5:05: 9.8% (2265) 5:05-5:35: 5.1% (2173) 5:35-6:05: 5.2% (2029) 6:05-6:35: 8.2% (2126) 6:35-7:05: 6.4% (1946) 7:05-7:35: 2.4% (1864) Jak vs Chie vs Draven Time: Jak + Chie%, (approximated extra votes) 1503-769, 518 Draven 573 (extra votes before here were trace) 3:05-3:35: 4.4% (411) 3:35-4:05: 1% (770) 4:05-4:35: 9.7% (656) 4:35-5:05: 10.4% (888) 5:05-5:35: 11.9% (906) 5:35-6:05: 12.5% (770) 6:05-6:35: 28.9% (944) 6:35-7:05: 35.7% (843) 7:05-7:35: 29.5% (734) Some notes: The rally for Chie's match had 678 upvotes/212 downvotes This is just memory but IIRC the Chie match took about an hour and a half to get off the ground The rally for Ryu's match had 3439 upvotes/2119 downvotes This took about half an hour to get off the ground Draven's native GameFAQs strength was approximated at 15% on Ryu/MMX, 25% on Chie/Jak based on pre-rally results and trends. MMX/Jigglypuff/Welkin was used as the base expected vote total for Chie/Jak/Draven, Link/Raiden/Yoshi was used for MMX/Ryu/Draven. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Can someone gimme Marth vs Vincent x-Stats? --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. |
Thanks Lopen. If you still have a copy of you're detailed math I'd be interested in seeing it. LordoftheMorons posted... No stopping the rallies will work if we can pull it off. Without the rally as a cover, any stuffing will be blatantly obvious and Bacon won't be able to deny it. The rally can still be a cover because whoever is stuffing is setting the rally thread as their http_referer. It would obviously be fraudulent to us if the rally isn't gaining any traction yet were still getting floods of votes, but I don't think Bacon would bother thinking even that deeply about it. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Does everyone truly believe that Bacon is blatantly lying about the Draven match being legit? --- FFIXOwner Character Battle IX Bracket: 79/93 |
Oops, never mind, posted too slow - thanks for the math details Lopen! :) --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
I don't have a copy of it since it's all arithmetic but I can tell you the process I used. I took the vote total intake from the day before/after's night match and subtracted it from the vote totals of the Draven match to approximate the extra votes for the thirty minute period. (I used MMX/Jigglypuff/Welkin over Tharja/Juliet/Tina because the latter match got rallies) I then multiplied the control day's vote intake by what I approximated Draven's percentage at (15% and 25% respectively) to approximate the "GameFAQs votes" Draven got. I then calculated the amount of votes Draven got for the half hour, subtracted the approximate amount of GameFAQs votes he got, and used that as the amount of "extra" votes he got for the hour. I subtracted that number from the total extra votes to approximate the percentage of "extra" votes that went to Ryu+MMX and Jak+Chie respectively. Not super detailed analysis or anything but I think the process is kinda logical. Obviously it's not 100% precise because there's day to day variance between votes and whatnot and Draven's GameFAQs strength was approximated based on how he was doing before the "rally" but yeah. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
I think Bacon may think it's totally legit, but he's wrong. --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
The Owner of FF9 posted... Does everyone truly believe that Bacon is blatantly lying about the Draven match being legit? No one thinks he's lying (well, only the tin foil hat people anyway). We just think he's not able to spot the obvious math issues that show pretty strongly most of this is stuffing. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
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