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How do you compare games to Base Link? There haven't been any game/character matches. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
I think lol x-stats has SMB3 = to Mario, can't remember why though --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 68/87 Today's Picks: Mega Man X and Sonic |
Well,
I guess the standard can be arbitrary and could even be a character, as
long as we're using the stats to compare games to games. So yeah, SSBM
being at 33% on FFVII, or 35% on OOT if you prefer, sounds very
reasonable. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
Sorozone posted... Kanz is Kanz. He isn't going to change, and I'm not quite sure what goes through his head. the best chance for rallying Link is, IMO, Cosmo and his stream. --- sc2us: MileS.151 |
If
Cosmo's stream is the best chance to rally Link, then Link is screwed.
Cosmo's average viewer count is about a tenth of how many votes Draven
got last night. Add in that not every single person is going to vote,
and Link is far, far behind Draven. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 |
red sox 777 posted... How do you compare games to Base Link? There haven't been any game/character matches. More than a bit of speculation, extrapolation via Series contest, and analysis of how a character from X game in Y franchise performs against character Z from the same series, then some more gauging of what they'd score on Link. So...a whole lot of voodoo, but voodoo that makes perfect sense to me because working off of Link is way easier to do than working off FF7, whose dominance came in the wonky interregnum period between the wild early days with bad security measures and brutal KHF and the tightened up security and Nintendo boost. |
backinblack167 posted... Sorozone posted...Kanz is Kanz. He isn't going to change, and I'm not quite sure what goes through his head. IF only Cosmo could have rallied for Keen instead of Link. |
So you made it up? >_> --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 68/87 Today's Picks: Mega Man X and Sonic |
backinblack167 posted... Sorozone posted...Kanz is Kanz. He isn't going to change, and I'm not quite sure what goes through his head. It might work if it got noticed but his stream chat is so filled with spam and general ridiculousness that it might just go unnoticed. On the other hand they could all just start randomly spamming the link no pun intended and it would work. Who knows. Either way he gets 5k viewers. A lot for twitch but nothing compared to LoL reddit and not enough to swing the match even if all 5k go and vote which is completely unfeasible. |
charmander6000 posted... So you made it up? Pretty much. My own personal adjustments have a surprisingly good track record though - they predicted the difference between Cecil and Pit within a half percent or so, though of course they did not account for Wrex, for example. I trust them. backinblack167 posted... Sorozone posted...Kanz is Kanz. He isn't going to change, and I'm not quite sure what goes through his head. This is your best shot. http://www.reddit.com/r/zelda/ |
LeonhartFour posted... Phoenix's performance was impressive by his standards. He's certainly improved, but Marth isn't any better than the Falcons and Nesses of the world. Phoenix Wright vs. Ness who've you got? I think I pick Phoenix because who the heck cares about Ness? --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
charmander6000 posted... Because the channels used for Starcraft rallying were not even one percent as effective as the ones used for Draven. We can agree on this, right? The battle.net forums were actually a really small tight-knit community that most of the Battle.net community didn't use other than for tech support. 80% of this community were also trolls. --- sc2us: MileS.151 |
Come
on you guys, we don't need to be so defeatist about our chances to
defeat Draven next round. We can do it, but we have to stick together!
It might look hard, and the challenges might seem insurmountable, but we
can do it! Impossible is just a word people use to make themselves
feel better when they quit! If nothing else, one thing we all have in common is that, at some point at least, we all fell into love with video games. And isn't this just what most video games are about? The small guys taking on the big boss and triumphing in the end. Would Link give up? Would Cloud give up? Would Mario throw in the towel? Would Sephiroth or Samus or Snake or Sonic? Would Mega Man? Would Crono? We have spent over 10 years of our lives analyzing these contests. This is Part 1121 of a topic series where we discuss them. Are we just going to let them slip away because we think Reddit is "gross" and don't want to rally there, or because we're too lazy to do anything to stop it! We have the chance to stop it! There is not some organized cabal working together to rally support for League of Legends. One or two people post a link about it on the subreddit, a couple people upvote it and it builds momentum that way. There might not be any organization there, but there can definitely be some organization here. If you look at the topic Cokes made (I think it might have been deleted), it would be relatively easy for us to all downvote the rally links if we work together. If we want to save our contests, we can do it, but the key is we have to want to. I know that I'm here willing to help. Is anyone else? --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. |
Fr0zoN posted... backinblack167 posted...Sorozone posted...Kanz is Kanz. He isn't going to change, and I'm not quite sure what goes through his head. He has 18 thousand twitter followers too. Draven also isn't likely to get a rally of the magnitude he got last night, IMO. --- sc2us: MileS.151 |
LOLContests posted... Come on you guys, we don't need to be so defeatist about our chances to defeat Draven next round. We can do it, but we have to stick together! It might look hard, and the challenges might seem insurmountable, but we can do it! Impossible is just a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit! You have my sword |
LOLContests posted... Come on you guys, we don't need to be so defeatist about our chances to defeat Draven next round. We can do it, but we have to stick together! It might look hard, and the challenges might seem insurmountable, but we can do it! Impossible is just a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit! Personally I kinda feel like this site and this board just isn't what it used to be, and Draven's stupidity doesn't help matters. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
It's
also worth noting that you can easily make like, 200 accounts on reddit
a day. You don't need an email or anything to sign up. Just make a
bunch with the same pass. Then when the time comes, continually login
and logout of accounts to downvote or upvote. If you really want to be that devoted. --- http://i.imgur.com/32RNLnc.gif |
KanzarisKelshen posted... charmander6000 posted...So you made it up? there are 79 users online on r/zelda. That's 0.5% of the users online on r/leagueoflegends. --- sc2us: MileS.151 |
backinblack167 posted... Fr0zoN posted...backinblack167 posted...Sorozone posted...Kanz is Kanz. He isn't going to change, and I'm not quite sure what goes through his head. There's a saying in contests: Never go in hoping for a weakness in your enemy, but rather expecting to come out on top off your own strength. It applies here. |
Fr0zoN posted... LOLContests posted...Come on you guys, we don't need to be so defeatist about our chances to defeat Draven next round. We can do it, but we have to stick together! It might look hard, and the challenges might seem insurmountable, but we can do it! Impossible is just a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit! Weren't you the guy giving up when I told you it was doable? Talk about a sudden turn. |
Pretty
much. My own personal adjustments have a surprisingly good track record
though - they predicted the difference between Cecil and Pit within a
half percent or so, though of course they did not account for Wrex, for
example. I trust them. Not sure how you can get Pit's strength considering the only game that he appeared in a games contest was Brawl, plus the random FFIV games that came out. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 68/87 Today's Picks: Mega Man X and Sonic |
Score-Brackets-% Right 81------1------------0.00 80------7------------0.00 79------7------------0.00 78------30----------0.00 77------66----------0.00 76------77----------0.00 75------81----------0.00 74------98----------0.00 73------118--------1.69 72------136--------6.62 71------128--------7.03 70------175--------6.86 69------214--------6.54 68------330--------12.12 67------384--------9.64 66------474--------9.49 65------575--------9.04 64------708--------11.58 63------758--------12.53 62------869--------15.54 61------922--------13.34 60------911--------11.75 59------887--------16.46 58------801--------11.74 57------747--------10.44 56------665--------7.67 55------605--------6.45 54------517--------4.64 53------445--------5.84 52------431--------5.34 51------381--------6.04 50------312--------3.85 49------261--------4.98 48------291--------7.56 47------202--------3.47 46------208--------4.81 45------220--------6.36 44------141--------5.67 43------131--------3.82 42------123--------2.44 41------107--------2.80 40------110--------7.27 39------81----------2.47 38------69----------7.25 37------59----------5.08 36------49----------6.12 35------52----------9.62 34------52----------5.77 33------40----------7.50 32------30----------3.33 31------17----------5.88 30------21----------4.76 29------16----------0.00 28------17----------0.00 27------8------------0.00 26------8------------0.00 25------11----------9.09 24------4------------25.00 23------4------------0.00 22------8------------12.50 21------3------------33.33 20------5------------0.00 19------3------------33.33 18------3------------33.33 17------2------------0.00 16------1------------0.00 15------0------------0.00 14------1------------0.00 13------4------------0.00 12------0------------0.00 11------1------------0.00 10------13----------0.00 9--------1------------0.00 8--------1------------0.00 7--------0------------0.00 6--------1------------0.00 5--------5------------0.00 4--------0------------0.00 3--------6------------0.00 2--------3------------0.00 1--------1------------0.00 Draven happened. Everyone on the Top 49 got the match wrong. Nobody moved an inch. --- Pokemon VGC2013 US National - 39th place Pokemon VGC2013 Worlds LCQ - Top 32 |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Fr0zoN posted...LOLContests posted...Come on you guys, we don't need to be so defeatist about our chances to defeat Draven next round. We can do it, but we have to stick together! It might look hard, and the challenges might seem insurmountable, but we can do it! Impossible is just a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit! Oh I have completely given up I just wanted his rousing speech to get the response it deserved :p |
...well, that was an interesting couple of topics to read. the counter-rally discussion was smart. past Link (who has a chance) Mewtwo is the right idea. Charizard would be in the finals with Snake, Cloud, or Rally Pikachu (or Rally BLUE??) there as the third = there is no option there that's good for him. but GameFAQs-saving-rally-Mewtwo would just push Sephiroth into the ground. Pokemon with a chance/distant 3rd Sephiroth among GameFAQs voters would be so much stronger than what X was able to do to Ryu last night. --- Leafs / Raptors / Blue Jays / TFC / Argos / Tottenham We'll get 'em next year. |
More
than a bit of speculation, extrapolation via Series contest, and
analysis of how a character from X game in Y franchise performs against
character Z from the same series, then some more gauging of what they'd
score on Link. So...a whole lot of voodoo, but voodoo that makes perfect
sense to me because working off of Link is way easier to do than
working off FF7, whose dominance came in the wonky interregnum period
between the wild early days with bad security measures and brutal KHF
and the tightened up security and Nintendo boost. Uh huh. Well if you don't like using 2004 FFVII, you could just base 2004 stats off of 2004 OOT. It's the same thing, just multiply by the 53/47 gap between the 2 games. And you do realize Base Link is Link 2003 right? Not a more recent Link! If you say a game is worth 33% on BL I have no idea what that means. If you're using the game/character equalization from Ngamer's website, I haven't looked at that in like....6 years, and most people probably haven't either because comparing games with characters is rather silly. If you're using your own numbers, then no one else would know what you mean. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
charmander6000 posted... Pretty much. My own personal adjustments have a surprisingly good track record though - they predicted the difference between Cecil and Pit within a half percent or so, though of course they did not account for Wrex, for example. I trust them. I simply applied the Dissidia boost to him, adjusted down like two percent (or one - I forget who's higher in the 2008 Xstats, him or Cecil) and called it day. It's the same principle at work and more or less the same potential fanbase, so assuming there'd be a similar benefit paid off. Fr0zoN posted...
Oh, in that case carry on. I respect honoring a good speech with a round of applause! |
Fr0zoN posted... LOLContests posted...Come on you guys, we don't need to be so defeatist about our chances to defeat Draven next round. We can do it, but we have to stick together! It might look hard, and the challenges might seem insurmountable, but we can do it! Impossible is just a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit! And my bow. |
Kibago posted... ...well, that was an interesting couple of topics to read. I actually think an L-Block rally would have a really good chance on top of being extremely fitting http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071211055461/board8/images/b/bc/L-block.jpg the King has returned --- sc2us: MileS.151 |
I'm
not throwing in the towel yet. I looks grim for Link but not
completely completely impossible. The 24 hour match helps. Draven was
fading towards the end today. Link needs a lot of rallying, but
probably not as much as might be expected looking at last night. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
red sox 777 posted... More than a bit of speculation, extrapolation via Series contest, and analysis of how a character from X game in Y franchise performs against character Z from the same series, then some more gauging of what they'd score on Link. So...a whole lot of voodoo, but voodoo that makes perfect sense to me because working off of Link is way easier to do than working off FF7, whose dominance came in the wonky interregnum period between the wild early days with bad security measures and brutal KHF and the tightened up security and Nintendo boost. Games and characters aren't comparable in that their strengths are not necessarily transitive, but you can tell pretty clearly how a match is going to go 99% of the time if you analyze the contestants. FF8 doesn't perform much better than 2002 Squall on Base Link, for example. The character is liable to be a bit weaker because of a bunch of complicated 'things coming together' reasons, but most of the time this can be accounted for. The only element that is a gamble is guessing which characters don't have people playing their games and just overwhelmingly lock down the design vote (like Kirby). |
red sox 777 posted... I'm not throwing in the towel yet. I looks grim for Link but not completely completely impossible. The 24 hour match helps. Draven was fading towards the end today. Link needs a lot of rallying, but probably not as much as might be expected looking at last night. This. Draven depending on his big amount of votes may be his biggest weakness. Just how many people will vote for him? While 24 hours should raise Link's votes a lot. |
Kibago posted... ...well, that was an interesting couple of topics to read. Mewtwo is doomed. Sephiroth has way too many hardcore fans on GameFAQs and he will sunder Mewtwo's innate strength like no other, leaving a rally-off between LoL and Pokemon. No contest. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
None
of that answers the question of what 33% on BL means for SSBM. Does
that make it weak or strong? Can it beat FFVI? Can it beat FFVIII? --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
I
simply applied the Dissidia boost to him, adjusted down like two
percent (or one - I forget who's higher in the 2008 Xstats, him or
Cecil) and called it day. It's the same principle at work and more or
less the same potential fanbase, so assuming there'd be a similar
benefit paid off. But you have no information on Pit. You're going to need more examples of your stats being correct/useable if you want people to believe them. Random guessing sometimes gets a correct prediction. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 68/87 Today's Picks: Mega Man X and Sonic |
ZeldaTPLink posted... Fr0zoN posted...LOLContests posted...Come on you guys, we don't need to be so defeatist about our chances to defeat Draven next round. We can do it, but we have to stick together! It might look hard, and the challenges might seem insurmountable, but we can do it! Impossible is just a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit! And my apathy! --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Not_Wylvane posted... ZeldaTPLink posted...Fr0zoN posted...LOLContests posted...Come on you guys, we don't need to be so defeatist about our chances to defeat Draven next round. We can do it, but we have to stick together! It might look hard, and the challenges might seem insurmountable, but we can do it! Impossible is just a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit! We need your axe dammit |
Hmm, speaking of new stat systems.......I still really like my votal-stats. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
It's like we are all little Jeff Goldblums flying into the mothership with our laptops to destroy the alien invaders. |
charmander6000 posted... I simply applied the Dissidia boost to him, adjusted down like two percent (or one - I forget who's higher in the 2008 Xstats, him or Cecil) and called it day. It's the same principle at work and more or less the same potential fanbase, so assuming there'd be a similar benefit paid off. Lemme take a look through the bracket. Since Round 1 was a whole bunch of fodder I don't think any of my big upsets have paid off yet. I've got stuff like Boss over Chrom and Heavy or Magus over Otacon right but that's really minor. Hard to find a very decisive call that'd convince you when we haven't seen any heavyweight fights yet. |
red sox 777 posted... Hmm, speaking of new stat systems.......I still really like my votal-stats. Oh? What were they like? Can I see them? |
Sure,
I'll try to dig them up out of old stats topics when I get home in an
hour or so. Only I don't have my old laptop with my spreadsheets on
them with me so we're going to have to reconstruct from stats topics
from 2009. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
Karma Hunter posted... Kibago posted......well, that was an interesting couple of topics to read. doesn't matter, it's not like Sephiroth could stop Draven anyway |
I'd also like to actually see the stats and how you calculated them. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 68/87 Today's Picks: Mega Man X and Sonic |
Kibago posted... ...well, that was an interesting couple of topics to read. I know right If things look possible I might rally for Mewtwo from my Iphone It might take me 2 hours to set up but i'll try if no one else willing to move it's ass Who is the biggest Pokemon fan in this board anyway? Pokelicious? |
Nanis23 posted... Kibago posted......well, that was an interesting couple of topics to read. Someone already has a plan for a mewtwo rally, unless he was pulling the weirdest long con on me ever. It's probably covered. |
if you're serious about taking out Draven, it's quite simple: take down reddit for the duration of the match |
1337gamerpr0 posted... if you're serious about taking out Draven, it's quite simple: take down reddit for the duration of the match Y'know how they say, 'easier said than done'? It applies here. (Plus then the rally would just move to Twitch.tv and the LoL forums. That's what I'll be doing if somehow Reddit falls.) |
KanzarisKelshen posted... 1337gamerpr0 posted...if you're serious about taking out Draven, it's quite simple: take down reddit for the duration of the match then when twitch and Riot are both down...? |
1337gamerpr0 posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...1337gamerpr0 posted...if you're serious about taking out Draven, it's quite simple: take down reddit for the duration of the match Then I have to take my hat off for anyone with the manpower and resources to do that. At that point they deserve the win. |
KanzarisKelshen posted... 1337gamerpr0 posted...KanzarisKelshen posted...1337gamerpr0 posted...if you're serious about taking out Draven, it's quite simple: take down reddit for the duration of the match The LoL forum rally didn't look very successful. Less than 1000 votes came from there (given the views), and there were multiple topics. Several posters also indicated that they voted for X. --- Fortune favors the bold. -Vergil |
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