Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1121

#201 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/20/2013 12:07:08 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
What's humorous? At this point this has stopped being abotu the contest for me. It's a social media experiment. Best way to do that is to get a really good live test.


That. That is humorous.

You really value your role in this way too high. You do realize that even if Draven does win the contest, nobody will respect you on this board, and not just because it's a bunch of people whining about Link not winning yet again.
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#202 | The Mana Sword | Posted 8/20/2013 12:07:59 PM | message detail
kanz has always been a joke person are you people just now figuring this out
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#203 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/20/2013 12:08:24 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Anyone find the humor that the person trying to start a Link rally is also trying to get Riot to link to our contest?


What's humorous? At this point this has stopped being abotu the contest for me. It's a social media experiment. Best way to do that is to get a really good live test.

Karma Hunter posted...
Kanz has just whipped himself into a... well, it's something. It's just rebounding off of one contradictory proposal to another in an attempt to maintain interest in a foregone conclusion.


Just like Draven flopping was a foregone conclusion before his match, right?


It wasn't, and the pre-match nervousness concerning him completely invalidates your argument.

No one is nervous about your 'counter-rally'. No one. It's just tiresome theatrics.


You believe what you want to believe, KH. I'll do likewise. For the record, I'll probably post the topics for Link an hour into the match, because I want to see how things go beforehand (assuming someone posts a Draven rally before the match starts). This is very valuable data to me now.
#204 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:08:38 PM | message detail
What's humorous? At this point this has stopped being abotu the contest for me. It's a social media experiment. Best way to do that is to get a really good live test.

So funny, trying to give people hope and then crushing them by bringing Riot into it, heck even without Riot Link won't get enough support.
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#205 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/20/2013 12:08:53 PM | message detail
3:04 PM in yesterday's match - 13935
3:02 PM in today's match - 13274

About 600 votes behind yesterday's match. So much for the rally spillover having any effect on vote totals.
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#206 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/20/2013 12:09:43 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
3:04 PM in yesterday's match - 13935
3:02 PM in today's match - 13274

About 600 votes behind yesterday's match. So much for the rally spillover having any effect on vote totals.


And that's exactly the problem with these rallies. They don't result in vote totals going up across the board.
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#207 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:10:11 PM | message detail
Well considering yesterday's match had high vote totals it may have (though not much).
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#208 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/20/2013 12:10:41 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
What's humorous? At this point this has stopped being abotu the contest for me. It's a social media experiment. Best way to do that is to get a really good live test.


That. That is humorous.

You really value your role in this way too high. You do realize that even if Draven does win the contest, nobody will respect you on this board, and not just because it's a bunch of people whining about Link not winning yet again.


Why do you think I give one **** about your respect? You get up in arms about someone expressing his opinions honestly, without making attacks against anyone, and just enjoying when things go his way. You don't deserve to be taken into account. I'm not here for the respect of the stats topic. I've got a group of people I'm buddies with already and that's enough. No, this is just for the thrill of seeing really fierce character battles and, as a secondary goal, to gauge what impact social media can have in polls.
#209 | Lopen | Posted 8/20/2013 12:13:00 PM | message detail
So has Bacon said that MMX was stuffed at 2:1 over Draven yet.
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#210 | xp1337 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:14:48 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
So has Bacon said that MMX was stuffed at 2:1 over Draven yet.

No. I was kind of sad about that.

If you're serious about this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/67031498

That's what Bacon said.

tl;dr: It was all legit.
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#211 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:15:14 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...

Why do you think I give one **** about your respect? You get up in arms about someone expressing his opinions honestly, without making attacks against anyone, and just enjoying when things go his way. You don't deserve to be taken into account. I'm not here for the respect of the stats topic. I've got a group of people I'm buddies with already and that's enough. No, this is just for the thrill of seeing really fierce character battles and, as a secondary goal, to gauge what impact social media can have in polls.


you think you're some wannabe social media genius?
that's rich
#212 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/20/2013 12:15:39 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Why do you think I give one **** about your respect? You get up in arms about someone expressing his opinions honestly, without making attacks against anyone, and just enjoying when things go his way. You don't deserve to be taken into account. I'm not here for the respect of the stats topic. I've got a group of people I'm buddies with already and that's enough. No, this is just for the thrill of seeing really fierce character battles and, as a secondary goal, to gauge what impact social media can have in polls.


All your posts here are pathetic attempts to get attention, and when you don't get it you start posting even more outlandish s***. It's starting to get embarrassing watching you post the same delusional crap over and over when in reality you have jack f***ing s*** influence over anything involving this contest, just like the rest of us.
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#213 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/20/2013 12:15:42 PM | message detail
This isn't some fresh or exciting social media experiment. It's not even original - it's cribbing off 4chan and their Launchpad McQuack push. We already knew this could happen. Now it will, and it won't be particularly surprising when it does. No one believes this is anything more complex than personal preferences and attention whoring mixed in with a little bit of schadenfreude.
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#214 | The Mana Sword | Posted 8/20/2013 12:15:50 PM | message detail
Bacon also said that Lopen smells
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#215 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/20/2013 12:16:40 PM | message detail
Worst thing about the last match is we now dont get to see Snake beating Link. That would of been so cool even if it was just because of Mario
#216 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/20/2013 12:18:03 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Why do you think I give one **** about your respect? You get up in arms about someone expressing his opinions honestly, without making attacks against anyone, and just enjoying when things go his way. You don't deserve to be taken into account. I'm not here for the respect of the stats topic. I've got a group of people I'm buddies with already and that's enough. No, this is just for the thrill of seeing really fierce character battles and, as a secondary goal, to gauge what impact social media can have in polls.


All your posts here are pathetic attempts to get attention, and when you don't get it you start posting even more outlandish s***. It's starting to get embarrassing watching you post the same delusional crap over and over when in reality you have jack f***ing s*** influence over anything involving this contest, just like the rest of us.


That's what you believe. I don't. We'll see once we're an hour into the Draven/Link match.

1337gamerpr0 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...

Why do you think I give one **** about your respect? You get up in arms about someone expressing his opinions honestly, without making attacks against anyone, and just enjoying when things go his way. You don't deserve to be taken into account. I'm not here for the respect of the stats topic. I've got a group of people I'm buddies with already and that's enough. No, this is just for the thrill of seeing really fierce character battles and, as a secondary goal, to gauge what impact social media can have in polls.


you think you're some wannabe social media genius?
that's rich


A genius? Nah. Just a guy looking for alternatives.

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Also, for the record: People have complained about how not a single new user has popped up because of the rallies before. Check the topic list now, though - it's a lie. A demonstrable, proven lie. New people are coming out of the woodwork thanks to Draven. If nothing else, this rally has already done what I wanted by getting some people into the board.
#217 | xp1337 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:18:08 PM | message detail
Mario v Snake for 2nd also probably won't be interesting either. Mario probably just deals with Snake with relative ease.
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#218 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/20/2013 12:19:28 PM | message detail
Snake could beat Mario if Draven weren't there! Possibly with room to spare! Maybe he'll still get to beat who's there if Mega Man or Charizard makes it.
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#219 | StarStormScream | Posted 8/20/2013 12:19:39 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
3:04 PM in yesterday's match - 13935
3:02 PM in today's match - 13274

About 600 votes behind yesterday's match. So much for the rally spillover having any effect on vote totals.


Who didn't see this happening. The funniest part is seeing users I've never seen hanging around B8 before thumping their chest on how they're taking to salty Link fans with Draven. You know after today, we won't be seeing them again until two weeks later.
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#220 | xp1337 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:20:16 PM | message detail
Doesn't this board still have a user level restriction on posting? Could users brought in from the R2 rally even post here yet?

That aside, I'm pretty sure the "complaint" was always the votals not the composition/population of Board 8.
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#221 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/20/2013 12:20:53 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Snake could beat Mario if Draven weren't there! Possibly with room to spare! Maybe he'll still get to beat who's there if Mega Man or Charizard makes it.


I would hope Snake would stand a chance against Mario with Link in the poll, if not that's pretty bad for him...!
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#222 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:21:22 PM | message detail
Doesn't this board still have a user level restriction on posting? Could users brought in from the R2 rally even post here yet?

Not anymore, all you have to do is create an account
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#223 | xp1337 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:21:25 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Snake could beat Mario if Draven weren't there! Possibly with room to spare! Maybe he'll still get to beat who's there if Mega Man or Charizard makes it.

Hey, I think Mario/Snake 1v1 is debatable. I'd take Mario, but it'd be fun! That's what I was getting at!

With a rally though? I have to think advantage Mario plus GameFAQs just defaults to him as the anti-Draven there.
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#224 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/20/2013 12:21:37 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
Doesn't this board still have a user level restriction on posting? Could users brought in from the R2 rally even post here yet?

That aside, I'm pretty sure the "complaint" was always the votals not the composition/population of Board 8.


There's definitely been complaints about the board getting stagnant and shrinking. My memory is good for this sort of stuff. Votals being atrocious too, but that wasn't the only thing.
#225 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/20/2013 12:21:48 PM | message detail
The final is seriously going to be

Draven 55%
Snake 20%
Mario 25%

I dont know how anyone can be happy with that. All of Link's dominance pales in comparison to Draven and his reddit army. We are going to miss out on an epic final for a throwaway match where half the voters will never even return to gamefaqs.
#226 | xp1337 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:22:03 PM | message detail
Oh, huh. Knew you could view it without an account now, didn't know the posting restriction went away too. Nevermind!
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#227 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/20/2013 12:22:31 PM | message detail
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Snake could beat Mario if Draven weren't there! Possibly with room to spare! Maybe he'll still get to beat who's there if Mega Man or Charizard makes it.


I would hope Snake would stand a chance against Mario with Link in the poll, if not that's pretty bad for him...!


Hey Link doesn't necessarily need to be there if Draven isn't. If Link pulls the miracle and gets revenge voted we could see Seph in the finals eh eh
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#228 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/20/2013 12:23:16 PM | message detail
For what it's worth I haven't seen a single user 'come out of the woodwork' as a result of Draven that isn't just a bad attempt at trolling.

I mean, if the goal was to prove that the LoL fanbase is a terrible cesspool you succeeded, kanz...!
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#229 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/20/2013 12:23:50 PM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
The final is seriously going to be

Draven 55%
Snake 20%
Mario 25%

I dont know how anyone can be happy with that. All of Link's dominance pales in comparison to Draven and his reddit army. We are going to miss out on an epic final for a throwaway match where half the voters will never even return to gamefaqs.


As a Mario fan, you're speaking for yourself when you say 'Link with an anchor vs. Snake' is an epic final. Mario/Snake 1v1 is an epic final, what we'd get here is a freakin' travesty.
#230 | xp1337 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:26:40 PM | message detail
Link w/Mario restraining him v Snake/Cloud was really the best final we could have hoped for given the bracket.

If you moved things around and somehow got Link to lose earlier (put Samus there? Doubt it works but let's just say it could) and ended up with Mario/Cloud/Snake that might be better but we don't have too many options here!
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#231 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/20/2013 12:27:55 PM | message detail
There's still posting restrictions, which I know from getting warned recently.
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#232 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/20/2013 12:28:15 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
Link w/Mario restraining him v Snake/Cloud was really the best final we could have hoped for given the bracket.

If you moved things around and somehow got Link to lose earlier (put Samus there? Doubt it works but let's just say it could) and ended up with Mario/Cloud/Snake that might be better but we don't have too many options here!


Yes, Mario/Snake/Cloud would be a legit final. Unfortunately, there's a Link in the way so I couldn't care one whit about the 'one true final' we were supposed to have. That **** was awful and I'm glad we've got something better to argue about than whether Link can lose with THIS albatross on his neck.
#233 | shane15 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:28:26 PM | message detail
It was all set up for Snakes Glorious ascent :(
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#234 | xp1337 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:28:46 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
There's still posting restrictions, which I know from getting warned recently.

Warned is under a Provisional Account IIRC so it could be set in a way that Warned users are out but new accounts aren't.
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#235 | xp1337 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:29:28 PM | message detail
We didn't get something better to argue though!
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#236 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/20/2013 12:29:51 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
xp1337 posted...
Link w/Mario restraining him v Snake/Cloud was really the best final we could have hoped for given the bracket.

If you moved things around and somehow got Link to lose earlier (put Samus there? Doubt it works but let's just say it could) and ended up with Mario/Cloud/Snake that might be better but we don't have too many options here!


Yes, Mario/Snake/Cloud would be a legit final. Unfortunately, there's a Link in the way so I couldn't care one whit about the 'one true final' we were supposed to have. That **** was awful and I'm glad we've got something better to argue about than whether Link can lose with THIS albatross on his neck.


Argue about in what sense? Because we went from a debatable final to a massacre where there is no debate/argument.
#237 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/20/2013 12:30:08 PM | message detail
Link/Snake/Mario as a final is kind of lame because it's rigged to give Snake a puncher's chance, but a Link v Snake 1v1 bonus poll directly following it if Snake wins could be interesting because bandwagon and stuff. Besides, it's not like MGSV isn't getting a lot of buzz and reddit attention... that rally potential could easily be enough to push Snake over the top if the chips fall right.

I don't think GameFAQs would have really minded at all if Snake had been pushed over Link 1v1 by a reddit rally (at least that's what I'd like to think <_<), especially since he's potentially our #2 character right now anyway. This, in contrast, is just designed to throw the board into whining and chaos. And it's working! But it's just trolling some GameFAQs users, not some grand social experiment...
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#238 | The Mana Sword | Posted 8/20/2013 12:31:19 PM | message detail
if only draven was in snake's division instead of link's
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#239 | xp1337 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:33:01 PM | message detail
Still don't think the board is really whining too much. There's a lot of new users who seem to be trying to induce it but this still seems pretty tame.

It'll probably be worse after Link loses, even though I'd like to think the board just shrugs at it because it's near inevitable so no one should be surprised. I genuinely think you'd get more whining out of a Link win if that was really the goal.

But whining either way, ugh don't really want to have to deal with it too much.
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#240 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/20/2013 12:33:14 PM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
xp1337 posted...
Link w/Mario restraining him v Snake/Cloud was really the best final we could have hoped for given the bracket.

If you moved things around and somehow got Link to lose earlier (put Samus there? Doubt it works but let's just say it could) and ended up with Mario/Cloud/Snake that might be better but we don't have too many options here!


Yes, Mario/Snake/Cloud would be a legit final. Unfortunately, there's a Link in the way so I couldn't care one whit about the 'one true final' we were supposed to have. That **** was awful and I'm glad we've got something better to argue about than whether Link can lose with THIS albatross on his neck.


Argue about in what sense? Because we went from a debatable final to a massacre where there is no debate/argument.


'Link is going to turbofodderize Mario and win' vs. 'Mario is gonna LFF Link so he will lose'

That's it. That's all there was to argue about. The so-called debatable final was just an attempt at guessing where the SFF was going to fall.
#241 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/20/2013 12:33:42 PM | message detail
Hold on Snake is going to have more wins than Link potentially after this contest

man that's almost worth it
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#242 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:34:40 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Hold on Snake is going to have more wins than Link potentially after this contest

man that's almost worth it


you know it's not
#243 | tgs2 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:34:42 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Fr0zoN posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
xp1337 posted...
Link w/Mario restraining him v Snake/Cloud was really the best final we could have hoped for given the bracket.

If you moved things around and somehow got Link to lose earlier (put Samus there? Doubt it works but let's just say it could) and ended up with Mario/Cloud/Snake that might be better but we don't have too many options here!


Yes, Mario/Snake/Cloud would be a legit final. Unfortunately, there's a Link in the way so I couldn't care one whit about the 'one true final' we were supposed to have. That **** was awful and I'm glad we've got something better to argue about than whether Link can lose with THIS albatross on his neck.


Argue about in what sense? Because we went from a debatable final to a massacre where there is no debate/argument.


'Link is going to turbofodderize Mario and win' vs. 'Mario is gonna LFF Link so he will lose'

That's it. That's all there was to argue about. The so-called debatable final was just an attempt at guessing where the SFF was going to fall.


Much better than watching draven get close to 70% in the poll

You are going to be shocked when Link/Mario/Snake gets little to no support in the subreddits you will be claiming to rally for him from. LoL is just a different animal altogether compared to the rest of the internet. If they want to, they could get a million votes in a single day and nobody else will even come close to matching that.
#244 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/20/2013 12:34:50 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Fr0zoN posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
xp1337 posted...
Link w/Mario restraining him v Snake/Cloud was really the best final we could have hoped for given the bracket.

If you moved things around and somehow got Link to lose earlier (put Samus there? Doubt it works but let's just say it could) and ended up with Mario/Cloud/Snake that might be better but we don't have too many options here!


Yes, Mario/Snake/Cloud would be a legit final. Unfortunately, there's a Link in the way so I couldn't care one whit about the 'one true final' we were supposed to have. That **** was awful and I'm glad we've got something better to argue about than whether Link can lose with THIS albatross on his neck.


Argue about in what sense? Because we went from a debatable final to a massacre where there is no debate/argument.


'Link is going to turbofodderize Mario and win' vs. 'Mario is gonna LFF Link so he will lose'

That's it. That's all there was to argue about. The so-called debatable final was just an attempt at guessing where the SFF was going to fall.


And a predictable massacre's any better than that?
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#245 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/20/2013 12:35:02 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Link/Snake/Mario as a final is kind of lame because it's rigged to give Snake a puncher's chance, but a Link v Snake 1v1 bonus poll directly following it if Snake wins could be interesting because bandwagon and stuff. Besides, it's not like MGSV isn't getting a lot of buzz and reddit attention... that rally potential could easily be enough to push Snake over the top if the chips fall right.

I don't think GameFAQs would have really minded at all if Snake had been pushed over Link 1v1 by a reddit rally (at least that's what I'd like to think <_<), especially since he's potentially our #2 character right now anyway. This, in contrast, is just designed to throw the board into whining and chaos. And it's working! But it's just trolling some GameFAQs users, not some grand social experiment...


Trust me, I didn't do this for trolling. Others might have, but for me the original aim was to make for a more fun contest by introducing a new character with potential for greatness. The social experiment thing isn't about trolling Board 8 - it's just me being supremely curious about how the lowest common denominator, a group possessed by mob mentality, can be influenced by a small group of speakers.
#246 | Lopen | Posted 8/20/2013 12:35:30 PM | message detail
Eh depending on how bad Link anti-voting looked as we went on you could actually argue Mario > Link, I think. Would you be wrong? Probably, but it'd be more worth humoring than trying to argue a guy who stuffs more votes per update than there are legitimate votes coming in can possibly lose.
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#247 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/20/2013 12:37:46 PM | message detail
Fayt_Esteed posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Fr0zoN posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
xp1337 posted...
Link w/Mario restraining him v Snake/Cloud was really the best final we could have hoped for given the bracket.

If you moved things around and somehow got Link to lose earlier (put Samus there? Doubt it works but let's just say it could) and ended up with Mario/Cloud/Snake that might be better but we don't have too many options here!


Yes, Mario/Snake/Cloud would be a legit final. Unfortunately, there's a Link in the way so I couldn't care one whit about the 'one true final' we were supposed to have. That **** was awful and I'm glad we've got something better to argue about than whether Link can lose with THIS albatross on his neck.


Argue about in what sense? Because we went from a debatable final to a massacre where there is no debate/argument.


'Link is going to turbofodderize Mario and win' vs. 'Mario is gonna LFF Link so he will lose'

That's it. That's all there was to argue about. The so-called debatable final was just an attempt at guessing where the SFF was going to fall.


And a predictable massacre's any better than that?


Who said it was going to be predictable? We don't know that yet. As Ulti likes to quote from Chris Berman, "That's why they play the games". Why be defeatist? Draven just did something we thought absolutely, completely, utterly impossible, for the second time, bigger and better. Lightning has struck twice. At that point, what's a third strike?
#248 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/20/2013 12:38:43 PM | message detail | (edited)
Lopen posted...
Eh depending on how bad Link anti-voting looked as we went on you could actually argue Mario > Link, I think. Would you be wrong? Probably, but it'd be more worth humoring than trying to argue a guy who stuffs more votes per update than there are legitimate votes coming in can possibly lose.


Not sure what Mario>Link is referring to but you have my full attention.
#249 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/20/2013 12:38:54 PM | message detail
nintendogirl, just ban Kanz already
#250 | ZFS | Posted 8/20/2013 12:38:58 PM | message detail
Mario/Snake needs to happen so Mario can put this to rest
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