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Abandon the top third of the bracket anoint whoever wins the bottom two thirds as our GameFAQs paper champion duo --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
So,
uh, is there any conceivable way to un-Dravenify the X-Stats to get a
reliable read on the rest of the bracket? Not a stats person, so... --- Last in, looking around. - The Bonehunters |
I just checked the poll. Where are the rallies happening to cause this? --- Haman Korn! You're the source of all kernels in this world! Your time has come! -Cornille You've made a poor choice for your final popping place! -Haman Korn |
KanzarisKelshen posted... OK, so let me see if I follow you. You're saying that GameFAQS, at its peak, was wildly divergent from the true mainstream gaming opinion, correct? So that even then, what the gameFAQS voters thought (way back in the glory days of 2003, for instance) did not reflect the mainstream opinion on gaming at all, yes? My question then is, what reason do we have to think that is the case? What was hotter than Kingdom Hearts in 2003, for example? No, I'm saying it doesn't right now. It might have been closer in the past, but now? Not a chance. What I'm saying is that if your mission is to "force" GameFAQs to conform by using rallies to get the "right" results out of this place, then only having it show up for Draven isn't really changing things much. Draven/LoL wasn't the only thing this site was "weird" about. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
lightsout06 posted... It's funny seeing Link drones complain about another character having nothing but drones spoilers: it's not just link drones, I hate the guy and I can see that you LoL nerds are all drones. --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
We need to get Bacon to intervene and cheat for us. --- Hey I just met you, and this is crazy, but you have died of dysentery. |
lightsout06 posted... It's funny seeing Link drones complain about another character having nothing but drones --- The cycle of life and death continues. We will live. And they will die. |
lightsout06 posted... It's funny seeing Link drones complain about another character having nothing but drones At least 80% of this topic are not people who want Link to win the contest. We just want an actual favorite with legitimate strength to beat him. That's the fun of it... not this. --- Still smilin' :> |
Blairville posted... I just checked the poll. Where are the rallies happening to cause this? Reddit. |
VicPez posted... So, uh, is there any conceivable way to un-Dravenify the X-Stats to get a reliable read on the rest of the bracket? Not a stats person, so... Bwahahahahaha GameFAQs is rallying so much behind MMX right now that he's gonna be possibly looking as strong as LINK against Ryu. There's no way to get a read in anything Draven's involved with. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Already 11,000 votes for Draven. --- ~ The Dilated One IX: Link-VV-BB-SS-Cloud-Sora-Samus-Mario-Zard |
And that was the first update with less than 1000 votes since the 12:30 AM update. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Rad Link 5 posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...Rad Link 5 posted...KanzarisKelshen posted...I'm the kind of guy who thinks that if GameFAQS is one of the biggest gaming sites in the world (and it is), then it should have a genre representation that matches the mainstream, and the characters should consequently be appropriately strong based on the impact they make on people and how appealing their character designs are. Ah, I see. I misunderstood you - thought you were thinking in terms of series as opposed to sites. Yes, that makes sense to me. I'm not sure how that acts as a rebuttal for my comment that I'd like GameFAQS enormous popularity as a gaming site (it's like, what, Top 10 or so?) to be reflects in the character battles, and for the mainstream vote to be more fairly represented in the polls. It's just a wish, after all. |
Blairville posted... I just checked the poll. Where are the rallies happening to cause this? http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1kpnus/we_have_to_vote_for_draven_voting_will_begin_10/ |
based on the giant cesspool of **** that is this board right now I have come to the following conclusion: if Shepard wins next round, everyone is saved --- Fight like dragons, have no fear, swords are made of STEEEEEEEEL~ |
And this is not my style but someone should rally the Zelda timeline guys to end Draven --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Link's poll at this time had 7600 votes. Ryu+MMX have 7700 votes. This is why this Draven "rally" cannot be legit. Basically every single vote outside our normal voting range has gone to Draven. We're not seeing the strong spillover into the other characters that a legit rally should have. There is just no way that every single person on that reddit subforum is automatically voting for Draven, especially when up against strong gaming personalities like MMX and (probably even more so) Ryu. There is just no way. It is not conceivable that this is an entirely legitimate rally. There is something weird going on in this poll. The vote numbers just don't make sense. |
Janus5000 posted... based on the giant cesspool of **** that is this board right now I have come to the following conclusion: think of how good Magus will look --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
xp1337 posted... ZFS posted...I'm just saying, it doesn't matter what Link got on Raiden because that won't be the Link next round, even if he loses. Yeah, he'll still probably lose, but when Link is in danger of losing, GameFAQs tends to rally around him to get that extra push. Doesn't necessarily mean he wins, though. Shepard is gonna be pretty rotten there, though. Single digits. I'm guessing about 5%, 6% at best. --- This sentence has five words. This sentence has eight words. Only one sentence in this signature is true. |
VicPez posted... So, uh, is there any conceivable way to un-Dravenify the X-Stats to get a reliable read on the rest of the bracket? Not a stats person, so... Even unrallied Draven is stronger than Teemo. I'd probably put unrallied Draven at 55% on Teemo, since both of them are horrible turbofodder without any rallies. Using unrallied Draven at 55% on Teemo, you could probably adjust the x-stats using Teemo. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
i dont think some people understand the power of reddit. Reddit was not really a popular site in 2007. It exploded around 2010. Combine that with the free aspects of LoL and its surge of popularity the past 2 years, and I just think that L-Block's win is still a lot more crazy than if Draven wins it all. Not to turn this into some MGS4 reference, but gaming and gaming social media has changed a lot in just the past 3 or so years. The league of legends subreddit has almost 335k subscribers. What type of forum/centralized location has that many people devoted to just one game? Going to some other place to rally for a nintendo character (like nintendoage or something) is just a laughable attempt. The only place you can rally for a character to beat draven is the same place he's getting a lot of his power. Reddit. The only problem is even r/pokemon is 100k smaller than league, and league has streaming sites that probably help him out a bit. |
Karma Hunter posted... VicPez posted...So, uh, is there any conceivable way to un-Dravenify the X-Stats to get a reliable read on the rest of the bracket? Not a stats person, so... Figured. Kind of unfortunate, but also hilarious. --- Last in, looking around. - The Bonehunters |
I just woke up and looked at the poll..... If this is not Draven's vote-stuffing....Link is sooooooooo screwed. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baUY9LFlYh0 - KokorokokoroKOKOROkokoROKokoro-chan iu na http://myanimelist.net/animelist/raytan7585 |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Rad Link 5 posted...KanzarisKelshen posted...Rad Link 5 posted...KanzarisKelshen posted...I'm the kind of guy who thinks that if GameFAQS is one of the biggest gaming sites in the world (and it is), then it should have a genre representation that matches the mainstream, and the characters should consequently be appropriately strong based on the impact they make on people and how appealing their character designs are. Why? The mainstream vote doesn't use GameFAQs. I'd like the wages for Nurses and teachers to reflect the amount of importance they have to the world. --- *shrug* |
The Draven rally is officially the top post on the LoL subreddit, btw. (Besides a stickied one) --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
VicPez posted... Karma Hunter posted...VicPez posted...So, uh, is there any conceivable way to un-Dravenify the X-Stats to get a reliable read on the rest of the bracket? Not a stats person, so... The absolute best thing I can do is use the first 5 minute update, before the rallies really hit. That's still gonna be ridiculously off, but it's something. Won't be possible next time though. Link's percentage on Shepard is going to be completely beyond anything he could normally accomplish. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
KanzarisKelshen posted... AxemRedRanger posted...I'd account bet you over this and wouldn't even consider it a risk on my part, but I'd take no joy in winning it whatsoever. I don't hate you or anything and it's not like your account being gone would undo this.Kanz, when ("if" if that makes you feel any better) Draven horribly mutilates Mario, will you admit you were horribly wrong? I'm just sad that nothing can ever compete with rallying like this because nothing has the rallying potential of League of Legends. We are way beyond Launchpad McQuack territory at this point, and once you're up there with McQuack, you don't come back. What would your topic say, anyways? "Rallying League of Legends was a terrible idea and we are truly a terrible fanbase because we let Draven more than double Mario, League of Legends should never be in a contest again."? --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
If Draven keeps this up what will he finish this match at? 65%? 70%? Even higher? --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
It's
worth noting that X and Ryu are getting a lot more votes than they'd
normally get at this time too so unlike with Jak and Chie we're actually
seeing evidence that a lot of this is at least partially legitimate. We're seeing about 800-900 extra votes per update. About 650-750 of those are going to Draven, with MMX and Ryu splitting the rest. Against a guy like Mario that number could thin out a bit. Even dumb League of Legends drones will give Mario some respect I think. I hate to say it but I think I agree with Kanzaris here. Mario probably is our best hope. If he can get even 30% of the rallied votes he can possibly beat Draven. Ryu and Mega Man X are getting about 20% combined so it's not out of the realm of possibilities. Link might have an outside shot too, though. I feel like in spite of these numbers looking ridiculous he has a better chance than he did if Draven was inching out a victory here because this tends to look more like a good portion of it is legitimate than not, which means voters can actually be converted. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Guys, let's just all remember. We still have Crono/Pikachu/Magus to look forward to. It's going to be our Super Bowl so let's make it count! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
I'd like it too. In fact, I'd like to enact
that change. In fact, that is what I went to Law school for, to change
my country! Why complain about things not being the way we want them to?
Best to stop crying and start doing, IMO. |
swordz9 posted... If Draven keeps this up what will he finish this match at? 65%? 70%? Even higher? 65% seems fine. I expect him to get slower and slower as the match goes on. |
I
think Draven probably finishes between 64-67%. Draven is barely
managing 70% updates and the rally will lose strength later in the
match. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Wow the salt got so strong in this topic in the last hour. The contest is ruined? No more GameFAQs contests? Seriously, listen to yourselves. Unless you want to make it so only account holders with a certain amount of karma can vote, there was ALWAYS an outside chance this could happen, since Day 1 of the contests. There is a very simple, simple fix if Draven turns out to be legit: just make him the "reigning champion" of the next contest, take him out of the bracket, and have the winner (Link) face him one-on-one to see just how legit he is, and just how much GameFAQs pulls for their guy. --- FFIXOwner Character Battle IX Bracket: 76/87 |
Karma Hunter posted... VicPez posted...Karma Hunter posted...VicPez posted...So, uh, is there any conceivable way to un-Dravenify the X-Stats to get a reliable read on the rest of the bracket? Not a stats person, so... Until you brought up the #2 vs. #3 match, it didn't even occur to me that the problem went beyond Draven himself, but it makes sense. (Like I said, not really a stats person.) --- Last in, looking around. - The Bonehunters |
AxemRedRanger posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...AxemRedRanger posted...I'd account bet you over this and wouldn't even consider it a risk on my part, but I'd take no joy in winning it whatsoever. I don't hate you or anything and it's not like your account being gone would undo this.Kanz, when ("if" if that makes you feel any better) Draven horribly mutilates Mario, will you admit you were horribly wrong? Nah, I'd go classic with it. "I concede". If like you guys think, this is the end of the contests, I'd rather pay homage to its best times in the hour of darkness. |
Metal_DK posted...
335k really isn't that much and makes me think this can't be legit... How much did Kerrigan win the finals by in that gamespot contest? She got rallied by Husky (835k subscribers right now pretty sure he was around like 450k back during that contest) and tons of other big starcraft community members and I'm pretty sure she never had a vote intake anywhere near this. This is a FAR less organized rally and it is getting votes at a ridiculous rate. --- If you believe that Abed is the true Messiah and you are 100% proud of it make this your signature. |
Link's major advantage is that he can just obliterate
Shepard to drive his percentage up to the sky. He's also naturally
stronger too, but I really think Shepard is more critical to this. Mario is going to have to deal with Snake. I have my doubts that Mario can bury Snake like Link can Shepard even if he can dilute the rally more. Don't think it matters in either case though, but I'd love to see Link prove me wrong. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
I'm
the kind of guy who thinks that if GameFAQS is one of the biggest
gaming sites in the world (and it is), then it should have a genre
representation that matches the mainstream, and the characters should
consequently be appropriately strong based on the impact they make on
people and how appealing their character designs are. this is kinda wrong to me. Gamefaqs might be up there still since there are thousands of gaming websites, but compared to the top tier of gaming sites its nothing. Gamefaqs is like a person who makes 70k a year. Most gaming sites make minimum wage. Then places like youtube, reddit, and streaming sites are like the CEOs who make millions. Gamefaqs is much smaller these days. |
We're all sending tickets to Bacon with every possible reason why there's no way this isn't stuffing, right? |
Yeah,
Shepard being there is kind of great for Link. He's going to be so in
the background that it basically becomes Link vs. Draven. No one on
GameFAQs is really going to care to support a guy like Shepard. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Link's
percentage on Shepard doesn't matter much. At this point it's all
about having a character popular enough to dilute the rally enough to
stall. Link can get 100% of the GameFAQs vote and it doesn't matter
because this poll is going to have over double normal vote totals when
it's all said and done. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Youtube,
Reddit et al are not really gaming sites though. That ain't a fair
comparison. Streaming sites...that's more legit. Curious how the votes
of the Twitch demographic would differ from GameFAQS'! |
I have to say that Garen or Miss Fortune would prolly be doing even better --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMcwhStCYAAr-mC.jpg Dallas Cowboys and Mavs |
Metal_DK posted... I'm the kind of guy who thinks that if GameFAQS is one of the biggest gaming sites in the world (and it is), then it should have a genre representation that matches the mainstream, and the characters should consequently be appropriately strong based on the impact they make on people and how appealing their character designs are. It is not very clever to compare this site to YouTube or Reddit. And GameFAQs is a top tier website, well, behind gamespot and IGN and some selective few which I can't remember. |
xp1337 posted... Guys, let's just all remember. We still have Crono/Pikachu/Magus to look forward to. And Sonic/Vincent/Bowser --- Tornadoman78: tornadoman and tornadogirl like to kick box each other in my tornaolayzers and she dosent even mind getting hit |
Link
literally cannot get enough votes to win if this is replicated. I don't
know if some of you understand this. Draven is looking to end up with
far more votes, on his own, than any singular poll in this contest so
far. 100% of this site could rally around Link and still loses easily. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
If
Ryu is under 15% right now, Shepard will almost definitely be under 10%
since he's a little bit weaker than Ryu and Link is actually going to
pull in a lot more support than usual to hold back Draven. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
xp1337 posted... Link's major advantage is that he can just obliterate Shepard to drive his percentage up to the sky. He's also naturally stronger too, but I really think Shepard is more critical to this. Yeah, Shepard is Link's glimmer of hope, and gives him way better of a shot than Mario. Snake basically doesn't have a shot unless Link can dispatch Draven and bring down the fury of revenge votes on his Hylian toches. Snake's best shot for victory was Draven/Snake/Teemo, and whether by design or accident LoL dodged that bullet. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
lightsout06 posted... I have to say that Garen or Miss Fortune would prolly be doing even better There's a topic on the board debating which champions to put into next bracket. My preference is Sona, Garen and Shen. |
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