Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1119

#351 | swordz9 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:27:08 PM | message detail
I've never played LoL, but it's nothing against LoL. I just don't play PC games in general whether they're online or not.
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#352 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2013 10:27:19 PM | message detail
Metal_DK posted...
Is link looking weaker this year? I wasn't impressed at all with his first round. Link hasn't been in any well received games since like...brawl in 2008.

I think if Draven wins vs Link part of it is because Link is declining in popularity.


lol I think Link is weaker but no

Link could be worth 60% on his peak self right now and it won't mean a damn thing
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#353 | ZFS | Posted 8/19/2013 10:27:59 PM | message detail
vcharon posted...
Gamespot isn't Gamefaqs, despite what this poll would have you believe.


I think the point is that Mario is often more popular on sites that aren't GameFAQs, and even within completely unrelated game communities, Mario is still really liked. KH kinda deflates why it wouldn't work in a three way but could 1v1, though.
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#354 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/19/2013 10:28:27 PM | message detail
Kanz, when ("if" if that makes you feel any better) Draven horribly mutilates Mario, will you admit you were horribly wrong?

I suspect you're just trolling though.
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#355 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2013 10:28:35 PM | message detail
Although against Draven, you can be assured that we're going to see the strongest Link relative to the field that we've ever seen. Even people that hate him are gonna be voting for him.

It won't mean anything, but it's important for how the Draven-stats work out!
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#356 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/19/2013 10:29:23 PM | message detail
Holy ****.
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#357 | handsomeboy2012 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:29:28 PM | message detail
Geemer02 posted...
Soooo... how about that LAW?


It's DAW now.
#358 | SnoicFactor | Posted 8/19/2013 10:29:34 PM | message detail
Draven will surpass Links % against Raiden/Yoshi in a couple updates.. Does anyone here think Ryu/MMX wouldn't perform better lol? Draven is going to stomp Link.
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#359 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:29:41 PM | message detail
Why do you suddenly believe "the internet" matters here? "The internet" didn't matter to L-Block. You know who was helped by offsite activities? L-Block. You know who wasn't? Everyone else.

I'm not sure if you believe us to be cavemen or if you truly believe anyone is going to rally behind Link or Mario like they did for L-Block and are for Draven.
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#360 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/19/2013 10:29:44 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Yeah the main biggest problem is this preposterously bad three-way format. Mario with ridiculous amounts of rallies on every Nintendo subreddit and whatnot pushing against LoL, sure, I can buy a glimmer of a chance that he pulls the miracle.

But not with Snake or Cloud weighing him down like an anchor.


Same thing with Sephiroth and Sonic. Neither of them are going to pull rank on the other and take it to Draven in the semis.
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#361 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/19/2013 10:29:51 PM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
Honestly the best place to counter rally, is reddit itself, and the /r gaming section. Good luck having it catch fire though.


Many rallies have been attempted on /r/gaming. I don't believe any of them have caught fire - they tend to be downvote magnets there.

Anyone eager to stop the "Draven menace" needs to hit up the larger series-specific subs. /r/Pokemon is massive, and one of the biggest non-default subs. A few other subs - like /r/zelda and /r/masseffect - are also quite large. Post "We need to vote for Pikachu" shortly before his poll starts, and coordinate it so your fellow B8ers upvote the s**t out of it from the get-go. That's your best chance IMO.
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#362 | xp1337 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:29:56 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I'm the kind of guy who thinks that if GameFAQS is one of the biggest gaming sites in the world (and it is), then it should have a genre representation that matches the mainstream, and the characters should consequently be appropriately strong based on the impact they make on people and how appealing their character designs are.

But it clearly doesn't.

And this match doesn't really change that. The idea that LoL being turbofodder here was the only outlier in GameFAQs's preferences compared to the mainstream is just hilariously wrong. And yet here's the only place where it's being "forcefully corrected."
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#363 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:30:03 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Kanz, when ("if" if that makes you feel any better) Draven horribly mutilates Mario, will you admit you were horribly wrong?

I suspect you're just trolling though.


I'll make a topic, even. Just remind me come the finals (if Draven makes it past a hyperrallied Link).
#364 | ZFS | Posted 8/19/2013 10:31:25 PM | message detail
Link would have crushed his group a lot harder, too, if people thought he might lose like he will next round. Link in round 2 npd Link in round 3 are going to be insanely different levels, win or lose.
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#365 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2013 10:33:44 PM | message detail | (edited)
Mega Man X is now projected to score 68% on Ryu directly according to Draven-stats! If he can get into the 69% range, that's Link-level.

Meanwhile, he doesn't even have 30% on Draven.

And Ryu is about to be quadrupled by Draven. Based on this performance, Draven is projected to score 67% on Link by the 2010 stats.
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#366 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:32:08 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I'm the kind of guy who thinks that if GameFAQS is one of the biggest gaming sites in the world (and it is), then it should have a genre representation that matches the mainstream, and the characters should consequently be appropriately strong based on the impact they make on people and how appealing their character designs are.

But it clearly doesn't.

And this match doesn't really change that. The idea that LoL being turbofodder here was the only outlier in GameFAQs's preferences compared to the mainstream is just hilariously wrong. And yet here's the only place where it's being "forcefully corrected."


No, you're wrong on this. There is a previous instance of LoL fans coming out in force in the internet out there. This site (Joystiq? ****ed if I remember which) made its GotY poll a free for all between nominated entrants. Riot organized its fans and they got together to push it over the biggest games of the year by something like tripling the next entrant. If it happened before, years ago, and it happened again now, it kind of signals that the LoL fanbase is not just enormous, but supremely hardcore if it's willing to show up anywhere and roll over the competition.
#367 | tgs2 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:32:21 PM | message detail
Here's some fun Draven 101

256
182
343
122

That's the 1:30am EST update for Super L-Block/Link/Cloud/Snake which totals 903 votes

Draven alone is pulling in 737 in that exact same update
#368 | Nintendoboy375 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:32:35 PM | message detail
Draven now has over 10k votes.
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#369 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:32:51 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I'm the kind of guy who thinks that if GameFAQS is one of the biggest gaming sites in the world (and it is), then it should have a genre representation that matches the mainstream, and the characters should consequently be appropriately strong based on the impact they make on people and how appealing their character designs are.

Then that says plenty about your understanding of things.

I mean it's like claiming if Lifetime is one of the biggest cable networks (which it is) it should have a demographic that matches the mainstream TV demos.

And if you don't see why that's silly to suggest, then I can't do anything for you.
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#370 | SnoicFactor | Posted 8/19/2013 10:33:00 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
Link would have crushed his group a lot harder, too, if people thought he might lose like he will next round. Link in round 2 npd Link in round 3 are going to be insanely different levels, win or lose.


Link and Zelda series suck against rallies. Starcraft 2k4, Lblock 2k7, and now Draven.
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#371 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/19/2013 10:33:02 PM | message detail
'Levels' don't matter. Take Draven's normal vote intake per update against Link and add 800 votes to it. That's what going to happen.
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#372 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:33:05 PM | message detail
The only thing I'm miffed about now all the time I wasted thinking about the matches and posting on this board for the contest. All the logic and stats we have now from this contest are mostly worthless once Draven massacres the rest of the bracket.

When Draven won his first-round matchup, I had a feeling that the contest was going to go down the gutter. I should have given up on the contest at that point. But I stuck it out, foolishly enough. Could've saved so much time over the past 30 or so days....
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#373 | dethfdddddh | Posted 8/19/2013 10:33:42 PM | message detail
X has votes from Sudan and Belarus. He'll lose votes for stuffing.
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#374 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:34:00 PM | message detail
Do you really have to keep patting LoL fans on the back? They didn't stay long enough to see this topic or even visit this board.
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#375 | JJH777 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:34:04 PM | message detail
wow... Its disappointing that our votals are so bad now that this is possible. Please Link... I never root for you but please save this contest from being ruined.
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#376 | Sorozone | Posted 8/19/2013 10:34:29 PM | message detail
TheCodeisBosco posted...
Sorozone posted...
Honestly the best place to counter rally, is reddit itself, and the /r gaming section. Good luck having it catch fire though.


Many rallies have been attempted on /r/gaming. I don't believe any of them have caught fire - they tend to be downvote magnets there.

Anyone eager to stop the "Draven menace" needs to hit up the larger series-specific subs. /r/Pokemon is massive, and one of the biggest non-default subs. A few other subs - like /r/zelda and /r/masseffect - are also quite large. Post "We need to vote for Pikachu" shortly before his poll starts, and coordinate it so your fellow B8ers upvote the s**t out of it from the get-go. That's your best chance IMO.


Big? Yes, but LoL still dwarfs it in size. Right now there are 8x the amount of subscribers on the LoL subreddit compared to Pokemon, and nearly 100,000 more total subscribers.
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#377 | spooky96 (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/19/2013 10:35:10 PM | message detail
Ryu is going to get quadrupled at this rate.
#378 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:35:26 PM | message detail
Rad Link 5 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I'm the kind of guy who thinks that if GameFAQS is one of the biggest gaming sites in the world (and it is), then it should have a genre representation that matches the mainstream, and the characters should consequently be appropriately strong based on the impact they make on people and how appealing their character designs are.

Then that says plenty about your understanding of things.

I mean it's like claiming if Lifetime is one of the biggest cable networks (which it is) it should have a demographic that matches the mainstream TV demos.

And if you don't see why that's silly to suggest, then I can't do anything for you.


OK, so, following this analogy, who are the mainstream TV networks compared to Lol? Mario? Call of Duty? I can't think of many more that are that big and persistent. Zelda pulls in like what, a third of the sales Mario does each year? A quarter? Less?
#379 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/19/2013 10:35:35 PM | message detail
JJH777 posted...
wow... Its disappointing that our votals are so bad now that this is possible. Please Link... I never root for you but please save this contest from being ruined.


It has nothing to do with the votals.

Draven right now is on a level like nothing ever seen before in these contests, including L-Block.
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#380 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/19/2013 10:35:36 PM | message detail
60% get
#381 | swordz9 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:35:37 PM | message detail
This match has half as many votes as the previous match and it hasn't even been 2 hours >_>
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#382 | tgs2 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:35:46 PM | message detail
JJH777 posted...
wow... Its disappointing that our votals are so bad now that this is possible. Please Link... I never root for you but please save this contest from being ruined.


Draven would be destroying this poll even if votals were at their peak.
#383 | xp1337 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:35:54 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
xp1337 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I'm the kind of guy who thinks that if GameFAQS is one of the biggest gaming sites in the world (and it is), then it should have a genre representation that matches the mainstream, and the characters should consequently be appropriately strong based on the impact they make on people and how appealing their character designs are.

But it clearly doesn't.

And this match doesn't really change that. The idea that LoL being turbofodder here was the only outlier in GameFAQs's preferences compared to the mainstream is just hilariously wrong. And yet here's the only place where it's being "forcefully corrected."


No, you're wrong on this. There is a previous instance of LoL fans coming out in force in the internet out there. This site (Joystiq? ****ed if I remember which) made its GotY poll a free for all between nominated entrants. Riot organized its fans and they got together to push it over the biggest games of the year by something like tripling the next entrant. If it happened before, years ago, and it happened again now, it kind of signals that the LoL fanbase is not just enormous, but supremely hardcore if it's willing to show up anywhere and roll over the competition.

what the.

I'm talking about this site. You know, the site where Draven was going to lose to Chie. On this site the preferences here don't line up with the "mainstream" and Draven powering his way to a victory doesn't change that. There's a lot of things different here and I'm genuinely not sure what you're talking about anymore.
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#384 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:36:27 PM | message detail
vcharon posted...
Do you really have to keep patting LoL fans on the back? They didn't stay long enough to see this topic or even visit this board.


Of course not. We were already there, if our sixty topics worth of posts on LoL are any indication.

(Just trying to rile you up a bit here. It'd be nice if we saw new users for sure, though!)
#385 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/19/2013 10:36:41 PM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
This match has half as many votes as the previous match and it hasn't even been 2 hours >_>


More than twice as many votes as Draven's round 1 match at this point in time.
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#386 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:37:09 PM | message detail
account-lock voting and suspend account making during contest time, problem solved
#387 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/19/2013 10:37:12 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
vcharon posted...
Do you really have to keep patting LoL fans on the back? They didn't stay long enough to see this topic or even visit this board.


Of course not. We were already there, if our sixty topics worth of posts on LoL are any indication.

(Just trying to rile you up a bit here. It'd be nice if we saw new users for sure, though!)


I don't want any of that LoL filth spilling onto my board, thanks.
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#388 | swordz9 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:37:23 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
swordz9 posted...
This match has half as many votes as the previous match and it hasn't even been 2 hours >_>


More than twice as many votes as Draven's round 1 match at this point in time.

Haha well yeah at this point Draven was like 1,000 votes behind Chie
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#389 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2013 10:38:01 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
account-lock voting and suspend account making during contest time, problem solved


There's no reason at all to do the second one. No way are rallied voters gonna have the dedication to make an account to vote.
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#390 | ZFS | Posted 8/19/2013 10:38:08 PM | message detail
I'm just saying, it doesn't matter what Link got on Raiden because that won't be the Link next round, even if he loses. Yeah, he'll still probably lose, but when Link is in danger of losing, GameFAQs tends to rally around him to get that extra push. Doesn't necessarily mean he wins, though. Shepard is gonna be pretty rotten there, though. Single digits.
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#391 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:38:30 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
vcharon posted...
Do you really have to keep patting LoL fans on the back? They didn't stay long enough to see this topic or even visit this board.


Of course not. We were already there, if our sixty topics worth of posts on LoL are any indication.

(Just trying to rile you up a bit here. It'd be nice if we saw new users for sure, though!)


Uh... yeah. The thing is the "we" you are referring to is the kind of group that has one character fail to score 12% in a match and the other, "strong", character lose by a healthy amount to Jak and Chie.

You aren't going to see any of the people who are causing Draven to win this match. That's why it's illegitimate, pointless and the very opposite of fun.
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#392 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:38:39 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
xp1337 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I'm the kind of guy who thinks that if GameFAQS is one of the biggest gaming sites in the world (and it is), then it should have a genre representation that matches the mainstream, and the characters should consequently be appropriately strong based on the impact they make on people and how appealing their character designs are.

But it clearly doesn't.

And this match doesn't really change that. The idea that LoL being turbofodder here was the only outlier in GameFAQs's preferences compared to the mainstream is just hilariously wrong. And yet here's the only place where it's being "forcefully corrected."


No, you're wrong on this. There is a previous instance of LoL fans coming out in force in the internet out there. This site (Joystiq? ****ed if I remember which) made its GotY poll a free for all between nominated entrants. Riot organized its fans and they got together to push it over the biggest games of the year by something like tripling the next entrant. If it happened before, years ago, and it happened again now, it kind of signals that the LoL fanbase is not just enormous, but supremely hardcore if it's willing to show up anywhere and roll over the competition.

what the.

I'm talking about this site. You know, the site where Draven was going to lose to Chie. On this site the preferences here don't line up with the "mainstream" and Draven powering his way to a victory doesn't change that. There's a lot of things different here and I'm genuinely not sure what you're talking about anymore.


OK, so let me see if I follow you. You're saying that GameFAQS, at its peak, was wildly divergent from the true mainstream gaming opinion, correct? So that even then, what the gameFAQS voters thought (way back in the glory days of 2003, for instance) did not reflect the mainstream opinion on gaming at all, yes? My question then is, what reason do we have to think that is the case? What was hotter than Kingdom Hearts in 2003, for example?
#393 | swirIdude | Posted 8/19/2013 10:38:52 PM | message detail
The question is: Why didn't the LoL Fanbase have the foresight to push Teemo to the finals too?
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#394 | xp1337 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:38:53 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
I'm just saying, it doesn't matter what Link got on Raiden because that won't be the Link next round, even if he loses. Yeah, he'll still probably lose, but when Link is in danger of losing, GameFAQs tends to rally around him to get that extra push. Doesn't necessarily mean he wins, though. Shepard is gonna be pretty rotten there, though. Single digits.

Shepard's % will be a thing to behold next round. That could be truly hilarious to see.
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#395 | StealThisSheen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:39:14 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
account-lock voting and suspend account making during contest time, problem solved


This is a really dumb post and you should feel bad.
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#396 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/19/2013 10:39:26 PM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
TheCodeisBosco posted...
Sorozone posted...
Honestly the best place to counter rally, is reddit itself, and the /r gaming section. Good luck having it catch fire though.


Many rallies have been attempted on /r/gaming. I don't believe any of them have caught fire - they tend to be downvote magnets there.

Anyone eager to stop the "Draven menace" needs to hit up the larger series-specific subs. /r/Pokemon is massive, and one of the biggest non-default subs. A few other subs - like /r/zelda and /r/masseffect - are also quite large. Post "We need to vote for Pikachu" shortly before his poll starts, and coordinate it so your fellow B8ers upvote the s**t out of it from the get-go. That's your best chance IMO.


Big? Yes, but LoL still dwarfs it in size. Right now there are 8x the amount of subscribers on the LoL subreddit compared to Pokemon, and nearly 100,000 more total subscribers.


I never said it was a good chance, just the best chance.
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#397 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:40:08 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Rad Link 5 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I'm the kind of guy who thinks that if GameFAQS is one of the biggest gaming sites in the world (and it is), then it should have a genre representation that matches the mainstream, and the characters should consequently be appropriately strong based on the impact they make on people and how appealing their character designs are.

Then that says plenty about your understanding of things.

I mean it's like claiming if Lifetime is one of the biggest cable networks (which it is) it should have a demographic that matches the mainstream TV demos.

And if you don't see why that's silly to suggest, then I can't do anything for you.


OK, so, following this analogy, who are the mainstream TV networks compared to Lol? Mario? Call of Duty? I can't think of many more that are that big and persistent. Zelda pulls in like what, a third of the sales Mario does each year? A quarter? Less?

That's exactly my point, and it's flying over your head. This site does not have a mainstream demographic. A site about FAQs and walkthroughs is going to appeal to different demographics more than others. It's why games like Call of Duty, which continues to break worldwide sales records, do horrible on this site. Nobody needs or wants a walkthrough for Call of Duty. It's why RPGs, which are a niche genre, do so much better comparatively. You suggesting otherwise isn't just a mind-boggling level of misunderstanding demographics; it's a willful ignorance of past poll results here.
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#398 | ZFS | Posted 8/19/2013 10:40:09 PM | message detail
also Nintendo should announce that new ZELDA imho
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#399 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:40:24 PM | message detail
swirIdude posted...
The question is: Why didn't the LoL Fanbase have the foresight to push Teemo to the finals too?


Because we hate Teemo. Mystery solved!
#400 | lightsout06 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:40:30 PM | message detail
It's funny seeing Link drones complain about another character having nothing but drones
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