Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1119

#301 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:15:53 PM | message detail
I don't understand your logic Kanzaris... do you think these ralliers are going to feel like what... pity for Mario? So instead of doing this they might let off or actually vote for him because they respect him? Why all of a sudden do you feel Mario is better than Link? Mario, the guy who has gone head to head with Link several times and been absolutely dismantled him. Mario is an icon, but THIS SITE does not respect him in the way you make it out to.

They never have, they never will. Link will always crush Mario here, and if Link loses then the contest is over.
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#302 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:16:02 PM | message detail
Man, people in this stats topic are showing their moronic colors...

Link has no chance. Neither does Mario. And I say that with Mario being my favorite character of all-time.

Serious, stats people, just concede the contest.
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#303 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/19/2013 10:16:05 PM | message detail
Man, Shouldve been Cho'gath

not that ****** draven :/
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#304 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:16:31 PM | message detail
Of course when I say "if" I really mean "when".
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#305 | TyrekeEvans13 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:16:33 PM | message detail
Rally for Nasus next contest please
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#306 | tgs2 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:16:35 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
tgs2 posted...
I'm all for DQing Draven and any LoL content just to give these guys a middle finger. You just don't beat LoL when votes are involved no matter how popular your site is.


That actually would be actionable, so unless Bacon can find evidence of wrongdoing he wouldn't dare. All it takes is one prize-entry with Draven winning the contest for him to risk legal action.


Oh yeah, forgot there was money for the winners. I just do for fun entries.
#307 | xp1337 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:16:36 PM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
Kanz quit trying to pretend anybody can still win this. The Draven voters are going to drown everything without any competition. We might even see a match where LINK is doubled or even tripled by something if they rally hard enough. Mario doesn't have a shot in hell and neither does anybody else.

It actually kind of makes sense to me because he seems to legitimately believe that we could reverse this by counter-rallying.

But at the same time he also indicates that he intends to go further than this and get Riot on board, and even if he doesn't he says LoL is the biggest group so really by that same kind of logic I'm not sure counter-rallying would do anything except make this look less embarrassing!

It's just, anyone who's been here for any real amount of time should be able to recognize that this is over now.
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#308 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/19/2013 10:16:39 PM | message detail
"Guys, this is exciting seeing a generic overpowered Riot hero beat gaming icons because of the influence of a bunch of 13 year olds that have never visited GameFAQs in their lives. I don't understand why anybody would be disapointed and upset by this result! Now excuse me while I go buy some more Runes"
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#309 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2013 10:16:57 PM | message detail
Guys, we can still salvage the contests

next year make a bracket with only League of Legends characters

your move, reddit
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#310 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:16:57 PM | message detail
kinsho3 posted...
Man, people in this stats topic are showing their moronic colors...

Link has no chance. Neither does Mario. And I say that with Mario being my favorite character of all-time.

Serious, stats people, just concede the contest.


It's like one guy... the guy who is happy about Draven. The rest of us believe he's being a doofus.
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#311 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/19/2013 10:17:12 PM | message detail
Link will be lucky to hit 35% on Draven. Mario will be lucky to hit 30%

I have no idea what planet you are living on if you dont think the contest finished today.
#312 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/19/2013 10:17:34 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
swordz9 posted...
Kanz quit trying to pretend anybody can still win this. The Draven voters are going to drown everything without any competition. We might even see a match where LINK is doubled or even tripled by something if they rally hard enough. Mario doesn't have a shot in hell and neither does anybody else.


I don't believe this. You're tempting me an awful lot to make a rally topic for freakin Link of all people just to shut this nonsense up. Quit underestimating fanbases, dudes.

(Incidentally, can anyone link me to the biggest Capcom subreddit? Can't find it...more than a little distracted by a bunch of conversations right now)


I'll just cut right to the chase: Quit deluding yourself into believing the contest isn't essentially over at this point. If Draven's doing this NOW... no one else can stop him.
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#313 | Achromatic | Posted 8/19/2013 10:18:02 PM | message detail
I am very happy about Draven.

ACCEPT YOUR NEW GOD.
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#314 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/19/2013 10:18:05 PM | message detail
Actually glad to see a big upset like this.
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#315 | paulg235 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:18:08 PM | message detail
I am seriously wondering (and worried) whether this'll also affect matches from this point onward without Draven. We could really see characters who usually would kill their round 2/3 matches get upset by a rallied character.
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#316 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:18:36 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Guys, we can still salvage the contests

next year make a bracket with only League of Legends characters

your move, reddit


winner faces Link in a poll where only people with GameFAQs accounts can vote
we might just see Link break 90%
#317 | Sorozone | Posted 8/19/2013 10:18:49 PM | message detail
Going to Capcom subreddit's isn't going to do s***.

There are links on the fighting ones, including one in a Mike Ross AMA, there is a topic on Shoryuken. Hell I even linked it in a recently uploaded Maximilian video on youtube.

You simply won't find anything close to what the LoL subreddit has. Nothing close.
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#318 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:18:57 PM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
Actually glad to see a big upset like this.


But from every match on, it won't be an "upset". Because Draven has won, he will be expected to win. This is worse than Link because he will put up higher numbers and win by more until the contest is over.
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#319 | xp1337 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:18:59 PM | message detail
paulg235 posted...
I am seriously wondering (and worried) whether this'll also affect matches from this point onward without Draven. We could really see characters who usually would kill their round 2/3 matches get upset by a rallied character.

Other LoL characters weren't affected by Draven R1!

damn you teemo you cost me expert challenge points.
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#320 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:19:00 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
tgs2 posted...
I'm all for DQing Draven and any LoL content just to give these guys a middle finger. You just don't beat LoL when votes are involved no matter how popular your site is.


That actually would be actionable, so unless Bacon can find evidence of wrongdoing he wouldn't dare. All it takes is one prize-entry with Draven winning the contest for him to risk legal action.


Legal action over what? $1000?
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#321 | spooky96 (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/19/2013 10:19:03 PM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
Link will be lucky to hit 35% on Draven. Mario will be lucky to hit 30%

I have no idea what planet you are living on if you dont think the contest finished today.


Those % seem about right to me.
#322 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:19:20 PM | message detail
vcharon posted...
I don't understand your logic Kanzaris... do you think these ralliers are going to feel like what... pity for Mario? So instead of doing this they might let off or actually vote for him because they respect him? Why all of a sudden do you feel Mario is better than Link? Mario, the guy who has gone head to head with Link several times and been absolutely dismantled him. Mario is an icon, but THIS SITE does not respect him in the way you make it out to.

They never have, they never will. Link will always crush Mario here, and if Link loses then the contest is over.


Because of this.

http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-hero/vote/index.html?battle_id=63

Look at the main result then the preceding one. Evidence doesn't lie. In the face of the single biggest rally in any popularity contest ever, Mario held up better than Link. Mario gets more and more powerful the more mainstream a poll becomes. This is fact, because Mario is gaming. He has a dozen genre defining games, he rescued gaming from the Crash, and he set every standard for what 3D could mean for the industry. He's not going to fold in the face of LoL unless RIOT intervenes in the finals.
#323 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:19:56 PM | message detail
Is there any chance that rally post will show up on Reddit main page...?
If it happens then I personally believe it will hurt Draven
But it probably will stay on the LoL page and that's all
#324 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:19:59 PM | message detail
also, Kanz: put your money where your mouth is, and start rallying for Link in round 3, RIGHT NOW
or else you're just bulls******* like usual
#325 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:20:09 PM | message detail
Gamespot isn't Gamefaqs, despite what this poll would have you believe.
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#326 | General_Zimbad | Posted 8/19/2013 10:20:13 PM | message detail
The sad thing is that unlike previous years I actually thought snake>link would happen.

Would have been nice to see it legit.
#327 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2013 10:20:20 PM | message detail
kinsho3 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
tgs2 posted...
I'm all for DQing Draven and any LoL content just to give these guys a middle finger. You just don't beat LoL when votes are involved no matter how popular your site is.


That actually would be actionable, so unless Bacon can find evidence of wrongdoing he wouldn't dare. All it takes is one prize-entry with Draven winning the contest for him to risk legal action.


Legal action over what? $1000?


Negative publicity hurts more than the actual money. You don't want to risk people making waves over the principle of the thing. I mean, there's zero upside in a random DQ.
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#328 | KingBartz | Posted 8/19/2013 10:20:24 PM | message detail
Kanz you're wrong lol

You say the most absurd s***
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#329 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/19/2013 10:21:10 PM | message detail
The most amazing thing about these LoL rallies is how consistent they are.

Draven has never missed a beat after rallying started, this round or the last.
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#330 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:21:51 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
also, Kanz: put your money where your mouth is, and start rallying for Link in round 3, RIGHT NOW
or else you're just bulls******* like usual


Sure. Why not push this contest into overdrive? I know what the Ninty subreddits are. All I need is for you guys to make accounts and upvote the **** out of the topic so everybody sees it. Let's make this happen.

(Not making a topic yet though. Like I said, strike while the iron is hot. See how well it worked here.)
#331 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/19/2013 10:21:56 PM | message detail
And that update was the first time Draven gained less than 1% there.
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#332 | tgs2 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:21:56 PM | message detail
People are seriously underestimating Draven's raw voting power here. He is getting more votes in these five minute updates than Link/Cloud 2k4 finals had combined in their 5 minute updates, and that had over 120k votes.
#333 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/19/2013 10:22:00 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
The most amazing thing about these LoL rallies is how consistent they are.

Draven has never missed a beat after rallying started, this round or the last.


It's also going to get even more potent when people actually wake up....
#334 | Janus5000 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:22:10 PM | message detail
even if Mario holds up better do you notice that Gordon Freeman has a % above 50%

yeah we're done
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#335 | Sorozone | Posted 8/19/2013 10:22:14 PM | message detail
Honestly the best place to counter rally, is reddit itself, and the /r gaming section. Good luck having it catch fire though.
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#336 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:22:32 PM | message detail
vcharon posted...
Gamespot isn't Gamefaqs, despite what this poll would have you believe.


That wasn't gamespot. That was the internet. Same as L-Block's finals.
#337 | Lopen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:22:45 PM | message detail
Mario is actually stronger on Gamespot than Link Kanz. As he should be.
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#338 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:23:00 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Good reason to catch up, IMO! May as well take this opportunity to actualize and check out some new games. Not just LoL either, it'd be sweet if a dude like Shulk was a near elite on this site.

Kanz, I know my keystrokes are wasted on you, but just stop. I play plenty of new games. I don't need to "catch up." I'm not someone trapped in the 90s of gaming. You need to actualize that LoL and the MOBA genre are just not popular on this board, or among this site's members. Just because you like something doesn't mean everyone in the community you're posting on can. A site for FAQs is going to draw a different demographic than a normal video game site. For instance, I'm a fighting game nut, but it's not a popular genre on this site for obvious reasons. Never do I have the ego to think other people here just don't like it because they haven't tried it. It's just not up this site's alley. Neither are MOBAs. The disconnect between our site and Draven isn't "oh boo hoo, Draven is from a new game." It's "I don't enjoy MOBAs of any sort, let alone League of Legends."
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#339 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/19/2013 10:23:28 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
The most amazing thing about these LoL rallies is how consistent they are.

Draven has never missed a beat after rallying started, this round or the last.


Automated stuffing bots will do that.
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#340 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:23:29 PM | message detail
Oh yes it's pretty much early morning in Europe
Might get even uglier
#341 | TheOceIot | Posted 8/19/2013 10:24:24 PM | message detail
save us. Charizard
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#342 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/19/2013 10:24:34 PM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
Honestly the best place to counter rally, is reddit itself, and the /r gaming section. Good luck having it catch fire though.


Yeah, you're going to have a hard time getting people not to cry crocodile tears over Link not winning at GameFAQs.

It's a shame, because Link's the only guy with the favorable bracket placement to do it from here on out. I'd feel just slightly better if Mario had this division.
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#343 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 8/19/2013 10:24:50 PM | message detail
Hell yeah, go Draven. League of Draven to win the this popularity contest for the next 10 years, go screw yourself Link.
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#344 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:24:57 PM | message detail
Rad Link 5 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Good reason to catch up, IMO! May as well take this opportunity to actualize and check out some new games. Not just LoL either, it'd be sweet if a dude like Shulk was a near elite on this site.

Kanz, I know my keystrokes are wasted on you, but just stop. I play plenty of new games. I don't need to "catch up." I'm not someone trapped in the 90s of gaming. You need to actualize that LoL and the MOBA genre are just not popular on this board, or among this site's members. Just because you like something doesn't mean everyone in the community you're posting on can. A site for FAQs is going to draw a different demographic than a normal video game site. For instance, I'm a fighting game nut, but it's not a popular genre on this site for obvious reasons. Never do I have the ego to think other people here just don't like it because they haven't tried it. It's just not up this site's alley. Neither are MOBAs. The disconnect between our site and Draven isn't "oh boo hoo, Draven is from a new game." It's "I don't enjoy MOBAs of any sort, let alone League of Legends."


Most of the people in this topic haven't played LoL ever though. That's by their own admission. Those who have can say they dislike it and I will 100% respect their opinions. I'm the kind of guy who thinks that if GameFAQS is one of the biggest gaming sites in the world (and it is), then it should have a genre representation that matches the mainstream, and the characters should consequently be appropriately strong based on the impact they make on people and how appealing their character designs are.
#345 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2013 10:25:20 PM | message detail
Yeah the main biggest problem is this preposterously bad three-way format. Mario with ridiculous amounts of rallies on every Nintendo subreddit and whatnot pushing against LoL, sure, I can buy a glimmer of a chance that he pulls the miracle.

But not with Snake or Cloud weighing him down like an anchor.
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#346 | Geemer02 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:25:54 PM | message detail
Soooo... how about that LAW?
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#347 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:26:02 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
vcharon posted...
Gamespot isn't Gamefaqs, despite what this poll would have you believe.


That wasn't gamespot. That was the internet. Same as L-Block's finals.


Good lord.

Last time I say it. Mario has looked far weaker than Link for 11 years now. He cannot do what Link cannot do. It doesn't work that way. That's not how these polls work, it just isn't.
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#348 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:26:06 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Yeah the main biggest problem is this preposterously bad three-way format. Mario with ridiculous amounts of rallies on every Nintendo subreddit and whatnot pushing against LoL, sure, I can buy a glimmer of a chance that he pulls the miracle.

But not with Snake or Cloud weighing him down like an anchor.


I agree on the format sucking, yep. I said it before it was even announced, 3ways are the worst of both worlds.
#349 | Metal_DK | Posted 8/19/2013 10:26:41 PM | message detail
Is link looking weaker this year? I wasn't impressed at all with his first round. Link hasn't been in any well received games since like...brawl in 2008.

I think if Draven wins vs Link part of it is because Link is declining in popularity.
#350 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:26:45 PM | message detail
vcharon posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
vcharon posted...
Gamespot isn't Gamefaqs, despite what this poll would have you believe.


That wasn't gamespot. That was the internet. Same as L-Block's finals.


Good lord.

Last time I say it. Mario has looked far weaker than Link for 11 years now. He cannot do what Link cannot do. It doesn't work that way. That's not how these polls work, it just isn't.


On GameFAQS. Do you have any sources elsewhere on the internet proving Link is stronger there too?