Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1119

#251 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:05:45 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
This really is the most boring way Draven could have won.

If he beat MMX in a relatively close match it would show that the rally has increased tremendously but have left tons of doubt for whether it would grow large enough to beat Link.

Instead, we all now know that Link is going to get murdered weeks in advance.


L-Block was Christopher Nolan.

Draven is Michael Bay.
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#252 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/19/2013 10:06:02 PM | message detail
Honestly, this contest is literally dead no. And there will be no reason for any interest in future contests unless LoL characters are banned. Call them "retired" like Clinkeroth back in the day. I don't care. But there's no fun in this anymore.

That being said, there is no way on Earth that this rally is legit. Not a chance that this many votes are coming at this hour from any or all of those places. Just not a chance.
#253 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/19/2013 10:06:10 PM | message detail
We really can't assume that every Reddit rally is going to be this strong though. The principle of diminishing returns is bound to sink in. It's f***ing REDDIT, for God's sake - possibly the most fickle site on the internet.

Draven's contest path isn't as clear-cut as y'all are making it out to be.
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#254 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/19/2013 10:06:28 PM | message detail
This also makes a new games contest completely pointless. It makes any further character battle completely pointless. LoL must be the biggest hivemind fanbase in the universe.
#255 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:06:42 PM | message detail
Sephiroth to win the board vote in the first semifinal?
OMG EXTHA IT'S GONNA HAPPEN
#256 | nkansas13 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:06:51 PM | message detail
There is no way these numbers are real. Wonder if we can see as many as 10k removed votes?
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#257 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/19/2013 10:07:04 PM | message detail
Reddit is pretty fickle, which is exactly why this has almost no chance of changing. All they need to do is take 5 seconds to vote every several weeks.
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#258 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:07:09 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Why not? I want Draven to win this. I love Mario more. I would love it if Mario won the contest because he's too respected and too emblematic of gaming to lose to any upstart who tries to challenge what he means to the industry. I haven't BS'd anybody about anything related to Draven so far. Why would you think this is a lie of all things?

Because what, in the 11 year history of these contests, makes you think that Mario is going to succeed where Link failed?

It just reads to me as trying to defuse the whole, "Well, Draven won, contest over" sentiment with, "Wait guys, he can still lose!"

If Draven can lose, it has to be Link or some totally bizarre abandonment where he stops getting rallied.


http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%281%29Mario_vs_%282%29Cloud_Strife_2002

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%281%29Mario_vs_%284%29Crono_2003

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros._vs_The_Legend_of_Zelda_vs_Super_Mario_Bros._3_vs_Super_Mario_World_2009

Do NOT underestimate Mario. He has something not even Link has: Respect.
#259 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2013 10:07:19 PM | message detail
TheCodeisBosco posted...
We really can't assume that every Reddit rally is going to be this strong though. The principle of diminishing returns is bound to sink in. It's f***ing REDDIT, for God's sake - possibly the most fickle site on the internet.

Draven's contest path isn't as clear-cut as y'all are making it out to be.


Draven needs a mere fraction of this to beat Link. This is overkill beyond overkill. This is literally one hour of rallying.

It's pretty clear-cut!
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#260 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:07:41 PM | message detail
I would love if Draven simply had every vote removed but like 45 and became the new Chester instead. Far more interesting and still gives us a shot at seeing if Link could lose legitimately!
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#261 | spooky96 (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/19/2013 10:07:50 PM | message detail
Doubling MMX.
Trippling Ryu.

>_>
#262 | pjbasis | Posted 8/19/2013 10:07:57 PM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
This also makes a new games contest completely pointless.


Rallying League of Legends in a games contest is a lot less funny than rallying Draven.
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#263 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/19/2013 10:08:06 PM | message detail
I'd believe in a rally before I believed in 10k stuffed votes planetwide in an hour. The entire map is blue.

Early on I'd buy stuffing, but not now.
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#264 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/19/2013 10:08:30 PM | message detail
Draven is murdering MMX in basically every part of the world now.

Where do you guys think these stuffed votes are coming from?
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#265 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:08:50 PM | message detail
The rest of the internet has to be united behind Link, to drive out the legions of LoL. So it will be done.
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#266 | ZFS | Posted 8/19/2013 10:08:58 PM | message detail
Well, what Kanz is saying is right, as far as Mario being very respected in all areas and gaming communities around the Internet, but you'd need a significant amount of rallied to not vote for the character being rallied, and vote Mario, and that won't happen. And it's gross!
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#267 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:09:17 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Draven is murdering MMX in basically every part of the world now.

Where do you guys think these stuffed votes are coming from?


My pocket stuffer, duh. Didn't you know that he's the best there's ever been?
#268 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/19/2013 10:09:17 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
xp1337 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Why not? I want Draven to win this. I love Mario more. I would love it if Mario won the contest because he's too respected and too emblematic of gaming to lose to any upstart who tries to challenge what he means to the industry. I haven't BS'd anybody about anything related to Draven so far. Why would you think this is a lie of all things?

Because what, in the 11 year history of these contests, makes you think that Mario is going to succeed where Link failed?

It just reads to me as trying to defuse the whole, "Well, Draven won, contest over" sentiment with, "Wait guys, he can still lose!"

If Draven can lose, it has to be Link or some totally bizarre abandonment where he stops getting rallied.


http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%281%29Mario_vs_%282%29Cloud_Strife_2002

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%281%29Mario_vs_%284%29Crono_2003

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros._vs_The_Legend_of_Zelda_vs_Super_Mario_Bros._3_vs_Super_Mario_World_2009

Do NOT underestimate Mario. He has something not even Link has: Respect.


I hope that's a joke. Link doesn't have respect. Well thats a new one. I guess being the main character in one of the greatest series of all time earns you nothing these days.
#269 | pjbasis | Posted 8/19/2013 10:09:34 PM | message detail
Hey if the stuffer can be so good as to bypass all the hi tech security bacon's got set up maybe he can fake geolocation
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#270 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:09:40 PM | message detail
I don't think it can be stuffing honestly, I'm just hoping against hope for the sake of the contest. I think we're just Gamespot now sadly.

I wonder if Gordon Freeman can stand up to this guy and defend his title.
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#271 | anondum | Posted 8/19/2013 10:09:46 PM | message detail
it was pretty obvious draven was going to get like 80% of the europe vote
#272 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:09:50 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Draven is murdering MMX in basically every part of the world now.

Where do you guys think these stuffed votes are coming from?


everywhere?
#273 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:09:53 PM | message detail
TheCodeisBosco posted...
We really can't assume that every Reddit rally is going to be this strong though. The principle of diminishing returns is bound to sink in. It's f***ing REDDIT, for God's sake - possibly the most fickle site on the internet.

Draven's contest path isn't as clear-cut as y'all are making it out to be.


It doesn't make sense
Why people vote for someone just because they are asked to? looking at the comments it seeme like people really prefer X and Ryu
So how...?
#274 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/19/2013 10:10:20 PM | message detail
70.49% update for Draven.
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#275 | Zinganger | Posted 8/19/2013 10:10:21 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
I'd believe in a rally before I believed in 10k stuffed votes planetwide in an hour. The entire map is blue.

Early on I'd buy stuffing, but not now.


This.

This is a ridiculous rally.

But it is a rally.
#276 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:10:26 PM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
xp1337 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Why not? I want Draven to win this. I love Mario more. I would love it if Mario won the contest because he's too respected and too emblematic of gaming to lose to any upstart who tries to challenge what he means to the industry. I haven't BS'd anybody about anything related to Draven so far. Why would you think this is a lie of all things?

Because what, in the 11 year history of these contests, makes you think that Mario is going to succeed where Link failed?

It just reads to me as trying to defuse the whole, "Well, Draven won, contest over" sentiment with, "Wait guys, he can still lose!"

If Draven can lose, it has to be Link or some totally bizarre abandonment where he stops getting rallied.


http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%281%29Mario_vs_%282%29Cloud_Strife_2002

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%281%29Mario_vs_%284%29Crono_2003

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros._vs_The_Legend_of_Zelda_vs_Super_Mario_Bros._3_vs_Super_Mario_World_2009

Do NOT underestimate Mario. He has something not even Link has: Respect.


I hope that's a joke. Link doesn't have respect. Well thats a new one. I guess being the main character in one of the greatest series of all time earns you nothing these days.


Compared to the face of gaming? No. There's a reason Mario kept it closer against Gordon Freeman when he was literally boosted by Valve asking people to vote for him than Link in Gamespot's contest.
#277 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2013 10:10:33 PM | message detail
Mario will make the rallying even more potent. Remember how weak Mario was in the early years of this contest! That's because people actively wanted to see him go down, being the 'obvious' winner!
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#278 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:10:36 PM | message detail
I've always been against complaints about rallying, but we're at a point now where it's not so much a GameFAQs Character Battle as a Character Battle taking place on GameFAQs.

I mean these things used to reflect popularity on this site, not at large. Does anyone really think Cloud and Sephiroth were the world's second and third most popular characters throughout the '00s? That Crono was a super-icon of gaming with popularity rivaling Mario?

L-Block was at least a phenomenon we were basically behind, and Tetris is at least a game everyone here has played and most of us enjoyed. Most of us really have no connection to Draven whatsoever.
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#279 | xp1337 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:10:44 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Do NOT underestimate Mario. He has something not even Link has: Respect.

I've been here since 2003, I don't need to be told about Mario and his rallies.

The idea that they can even remotely compete with what we saw just happen is absurd. And you said you want to get Riot in on this too, I just can't believe you're serious here!
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#280 | NewCastlEmperor | Posted 8/19/2013 10:11:28 PM | message detail | (edited)
Nanis23 posted...
It doesn't make sense
Why people vote for someone just because they are asked to? looking at the comments it seeme like people really prefer X and Ryu
So how...?

Have you ever heard of the terms "vocal minority" and "silent majority"?
#281 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/19/2013 10:11:01 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
Hey if the stuffer can be so good as to bypass all the hi tech security bacon's got set up maybe he can fake geolocation


LMAO true. It's "hi tech" in the North Korean sense of the term.
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#282 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:11:23 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
Well, what Kanz is saying is right, as far as Mario being very respected in all areas and gaming communities around the Internet, but you'd need a significant amount of rallied to not vote for the character being rallied, and vote Mario, and that won't happen. And it's gross!


I'm making a rally in Reddit for Mario's match if it comes to that. Link will get no help from me, but Mario? That's a different story. I'm not going to give up my childhood for an excellent game.
#283 | pjbasis | Posted 8/19/2013 10:11:44 PM | message detail | (edited)
Last time I went to bed with Draven in distant third and woke up him winning the match.

Tonight I go to bed with a comfortable Draven lead. What will I wake up to tomorrow?
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#284 | vcharon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:11:44 PM | message detail
The only odd thing about this is that literally NO ONE voted for Teemo despite all the same rally threads being set up in various places. This must be taking place online in the game itself, but I still find it very odd Draven could be THIS much stronger than Teemo among the players. Even if there is a big difference between them, it seems a little farfetched one character can't hit even 12%.
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#285 | rpgsruleall | Posted 8/19/2013 10:11:59 PM | message detail
The rally topic on the official LoL forums only has 262 views. Where are all these votes coming from?
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#286 | tgs2 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:12:23 PM | message detail
I'm all for DQing Draven and any LoL content just to give these guys a middle finger. You just don't beat LoL when votes are involved no matter how popular your site is.

Draven could probably out rally 2007! L-block with ease and double it in the process. You had Kotaku and other sites link the L-block phenomenon like it was a gigantic deal, here it's a few throwaway links in the game client or reddit and nobody cares. That is what I'm more upset about than anything.
#287 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/19/2013 10:12:30 PM | message detail
RIP GameFAQs contests. Reddit has finally killed you.

Thanks, Kanz. Let it be known that you murdered our contests and are still proud of it.
#288 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:12:35 PM | message detail
Rad Link 5 posted...
I've always been against complaints about rallying, but we're at a point now where it's not so much a GameFAQs Character Battle as a Character Battle taking place on GameFAQs.

I mean these things used to reflect popularity on this site, not at large. Does anyone really think Cloud and Sephiroth were the world's second and third most popular characters throughout the '00s? That Crono was a super-icon of gaming with popularity rivaling Mario?

L-Block was at least a phenomenon we were basically behind, and Tetris is at least a game everyone here has played and most of us enjoyed. Most of us really have no connection to Draven whatsoever.


Good reason to catch up, IMO! May as well take this opportunity to actualize and check out some new games. Not just LoL either, it'd be sweet if a dude like Shulk was a near elite on this site.
#289 | spooky96 (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/19/2013 10:12:38 PM | message detail
rpgsruleall posted...
The rally topic on the official LoL forums only has 262 views. Where are all these votes coming from?


Reddit? Not sure though...
#290 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/19/2013 10:12:43 PM | message detail
vcharon posted...
The only odd thing about this is that literally NO ONE voted for Teemo despite all the same rally threads being set up in various places. This must be taking place online in the game itself, but I still find it very odd Draven could be THIS much stronger than Teemo among the players. Even if there is a big difference between them, it seems a little farfetched one character can't hit even 12%.


I'm sorta confused as well - I'd have expected Teemo to get something, at least...
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#291 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:13:15 PM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
I'm all for DQing Draven and any LoL content just to give these guys a middle finger. You just don't beat LoL when votes are involved no matter how popular your site is.

Draven could probably out rally 2007! L-block with ease and double it in the process. You had Kotaku and other sites link the L-block phenomenon like it was a gigantic deal, here it's a few throwaway links in the game client or reddit and nobody cares. That is what I'm more upset about than anything.


No game client links here. Trust me, if the game client link goes live you see Draven with thrice as many votes as he already has, minimum.
#292 | swordz9 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:13:42 PM | message detail
Kanz quit trying to pretend anybody can still win this. The Draven voters are going to drown everything without any competition. We might even see a match where LINK is doubled or even tripled by something if they rally hard enough. Mario doesn't have a shot in hell and neither does anybody else.
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#293 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:13:55 PM | message detail
Teemo never got a reddit thread to the front page. I watched all day because I banked on him in the Expert challenge and he never showed up.
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#294 | spooky96 (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/19/2013 10:14:18 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
70.49% update for Draven.


holy crap
#295 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/19/2013 10:14:33 PM | message detail
Everyone ready for League of Legends to 80/20 Metal Gear Solid in the next games contest?

Ready for League of Legends to 70/30 OoT and FF7.

Sounds good to me =/
#296 | ZFS | Posted 8/19/2013 10:14:54 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
ZFS posted...
Well, what Kanz is saying is right, as far as Mario being very respected in all areas and gaming communities around the Internet, but you'd need a significant amount of rallied to not vote for the character being rallied, and vote Mario, and that won't happen. And it's gross!


I'm making a rally in Reddit for Mario's match if it comes to that. Link will get no help from me, but Mario? That's a different story. I'm not going to give up my childhood for an excellent game.


I don't think you have the pull to really stop the Draven rallying. Making a reddit topic isn't going to shift scales here, as great as it would be for Mario to win.
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#297 | Lopen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:14:56 PM | message detail
I'm not saying this is all stuffing, but there's definitely enough that this would probably be a match without it. Regardless, votes aren't getting removed so it's irrelevant.
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#298 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2013 10:15:13 PM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
I'm all for DQing Draven and any LoL content just to give these guys a middle finger. You just don't beat LoL when votes are involved no matter how popular your site is.


That actually would be actionable, so unless Bacon can find evidence of wrongdoing he wouldn't dare. All it takes is one prize-entry with Draven winning the contest for him to risk legal action.
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#299 | Ytterbium_70 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:15:20 PM | message detail
SnoicFactor posted...
lmao he's doubling mmx now


Oh.

Now THIS is a match.
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#300 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/19/2013 10:15:29 PM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
Kanz quit trying to pretend anybody can still win this. The Draven voters are going to drown everything without any competition. We might even see a match where LINK is doubled or even tripled by something if they rally hard enough. Mario doesn't have a shot in hell and neither does anybody else.


I don't believe this. You're tempting me an awful lot to make a rally topic for freakin Link of all people just to shut this nonsense up. Quit underestimating fanbases, dudes.

(Incidentally, can anyone link me to the biggest Capcom subreddit? Can't find it...more than a little distracted by a bunch of conversations right now)