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JJH777 posted... 335k really isn't that much and makes me think this can't be legit... How much did Kerrigan win the finals by in that gamespot contest? She got rallied by Husky (835k subscribers right now pretty sure he was around like 450k back during that contest) and tons of other big starcraft community members and I'm pretty sure she never had a vote intake anywhere near this. This is a FAR less organized rally and it is getting votes at a ridiculous rate. Yeah, these people talking about "If 10% of subscribers vote..." aren't understanding that there is no way anything like that high of a %age would ever happen. That's not how things work. You'd be lucky to get 1% of subscribers to vote. If Lebron James tweeted to ask people to vote for Link, he'd get a very tiny fraction of the numbers we are seeing here. Getting 700 votes every 5 minutes in the middle of the night? You have to be naive to think this is legit. Sadly Bacon will let it stand. It's not even in Bacon's interests though, as these "visitors" (even if they were real people) will vote and never visit the site again. Link is going to get doubled or so. If he breaks 40% on Draven consider it a moral victory. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
JJH777 posted... Metal_DK posted... Yeah - assuming Draven has rallied 550 votes an update since that 800 vote update, that means that nearly 3% of the total subscribers have voted Draven. 3%. At this time of the night. In an hour and a half. That seems unfeasible. --- *shrug* |
KamikazePotato posted... Link literally cannot get enough votes to win if this is replicated. I don't know if some of you understand this. Draven is looking to end up with far more votes, on his own, than any singular poll in this contest so far. 100% of this site could rally around Link and still loses easily. I do, I'm just saying Link is the best hope here and the idea that someone else can succeed where he fails is just not realistic. I don't think Link has much of a chance here, this is too much, even for him. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
My
one final hope that GameFAQs isn't dead is that Bacon is just waiting
until the very end of the poll to remove the stuffed votes so that there
is no more attempted in-match stuffing. |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Ah, I see. I misunderstood you - thought you were thinking in terms of series as opposed to sites. Yes, that makes sense to me. I'm not sure how that acts as a rebuttal for my comment that I'd like GameFAQS enormous popularity as a gaming site (it's like, what, Top 10 or so?) to be reflects in the character battles, and for the mainstream vote to be more fairly represented in the polls. It's just a wish, after all. I thought you were suggesting that's what you believe to be the case, not what you wish to be the case. The only rebuttal I can offer to that is a single character no one here cares about being rallied to victory doesn't bring us any closer to your wish. Master Chief still lost to Yuna. Lloyd Irving beat a Bioshock character. A secondary Fire Emblem player character in Tharja beat out a Borderlands 2 character and the star of a reasonably big action game. The "Best New Character of the Year" award-winning antagonist of Far Cry 3 got stomped on by a super niche jRPG protagonist and a secondary heroine from a game about relationships and pushing around blocks. And after this contest, League of Legends is not going to be some big GameFAQs thing. --- Ace Detective for Hire http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9451/20110530afabodo.jpg |
TheOneAboveAll posted... My one final hope that GameFAQs isn't dead is that Bacon is just waiting until the very end of the poll to remove the stuffed votes so that there is no more attempted in-match stuffing. Better chance of a successful MMX counter-rally than Bacon intervening! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Youtube, Reddit et al are not really gaming sites though. That ain't a fair comparison. Streaming sites...that's more legit. Curious how the votes of the Twitch demographic would differ from GameFAQS'! they aren't gaming sites directly, but thats where people are going to talk gaming now. Which is what gamefaqs is |
On
the same day as Draven's round 1 match, the day match right after
Draven's match ended did not appear to have any kind of elevated vote
totals. So I don't think this rally is going to increase vote totals
for the other non-Draven matches in this contest. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
you all did this to yourselves btw next year a freakin' 1v1, 64 character bracket no gimmicks half-decent bracketmaking IT'S NOT LIKE THE STATS WILL BE USEABLE FROM THIS ONE --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
-LusterSoldier- posted... On the same day as Draven's round 1 match, the day match right after Draven's match ended did not appear to have any kind of elevated vote totals. So I don't think this rally is going to increase vote totals for the other non-Draven matches in this contest. Well, yeah. I think we mostly expected that! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
Rad Link 5 posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...Ah, I see. I misunderstood you - thought you were thinking in terms of series as opposed to sites. Yes, that makes sense to me. I'm not sure how that acts as a rebuttal for my comment that I'd like GameFAQS enormous popularity as a gaming site (it's like, what, Top 10 or so?) to be reflects in the character battles, and for the mainstream vote to be more fairly represented in the polls. It's just a wish, after all. One step at a time, Rad. We're going to see if the theory I am working on for how contests will work from now on pans out next round. Gotta have some faith for now. |
Karma Hunter posted... you all did this to yourselves btw "you all" That's what I always wanted! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
KanzarisKelshen posted... There's a topic on the board debating which champions to put into next bracket. Why do you hate me? |
Also your wish is silly anyway, because you're asking to homogenize a unique site, instead of just going to a mainstream site. --- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police Resident Straight Edge Superstar of Board 8 |
-LusterSoldier- posted... On the same day as Draven's round 1 match, the day match right after Draven's match ended did not appear to have any kind of elevated vote totals. So I don't think this rally is going to increase vote totals for the other non-Draven matches in this contest. More evidence that it's not legit. |
Karma Hunter posted... you all did this to yourselves btw We never even asked for this format... =( Most of us have been patiently waiting almost a decade for the 1v1 no era games contest that still eludes us. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
Oh,
yeah, this definitely isn't legitimate, but it's at least partially
legitimate. I think Draven's probably getting around 50% of legitimate
rallied votes. The point is Ryu and MMX are getting 200 extra votes per
update or so combined so assuming like, half of these extra votes are
probably legit, and Mario can get more of them. Mario's greater
preference here combined with rally backfire could defeat the stuffing.
*shrug --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
I don't see Bacon doing anything to this poll and I don't see him banning Draven or anything - he didn't ban L-Block in 2008. Also, people saying this is the end of contests are being kinda silly - we still have about the same number of upper tier characters what with Sonic and Crono falling to Earth a bit more. Plus if one of them just gets their strength from rallies then there could be a hilarious upset at any point. <_< --- Fight like dragons, have no fear, swords are made of STEEEEEEEEL~ |
Lopen posted... Oh, yeah, this definitely isn't legitimate, but it's at least partially legitimate. I think Draven's probably getting around 50% of legitimate rallied votes. The point is Ryu and MMX are getting 200 extra votes per update or so combined so assuming like, half of these extra votes are probably legit, and Mario can get more of them. Mario's greater preference here combined with rally backfire could defeat the stuffing. Yeah, but even if we run with that, we still would need Bacon to remove the votes. And do we really expect that to happen? Oh, I think I see what you're saying. Still don't see it! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
TheOneAboveAll posted... -LusterSoldier- posted...On the same day as Draven's round 1 match, the day match right after Draven's match ended did not appear to have any kind of elevated vote totals. So I don't think this rally is going to increase vote totals for the other non-Draven matches in this contest. ...How is this evidence that it's not legit? Rallies don't work that way. I like Nightmare. If I didn't care about the contest, and somebody rallied to vote Nightmare, and I went and voted Nightmare... I'm not going to vote in any match Nightmare isn't in. --- SEP Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/456/2z6v0qcgif.gif |
Then
again it's possible the stuff bot is throttled back even now so maybe
it's just not beatable no matter what happens. I don't know. It looked
like 100 stuffed votes per update last round now I'm guessing more like
400. How high can it go? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Karma Hunter posted...you all did this to yourselves btw well yeah that one's just Ceej and Bacon trolling you --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
With
our abysmal votals this was probably going to be the last contest
anyway. Draven and reddit are just ruining it now and making sure that
it's the last one. |
Well this is just the stupidest thing ever. On the plus side, 1st in the guru before everything goes to hell! --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
Its only been 2 hours and this match already has more votes than some of the round 1 matches. |
nintendogirl1 posted... JJH777 posted...Metal_DK posted... but thats assuming reddit is the only source. Which it probably isnt. 3% does seem unfeasible, but 2% of that subreddit is logged in right now. Combine with streams, and other sources, this does seem reasonable for now. If this type of strength stays this way all night, then ya I think its absurd to think no foul play was involved. But for now, I think it could be reasonable. |
StealThisSheen posted... TheOneAboveAll posted...-LusterSoldier- posted...On the same day as Draven's round 1 match, the day match right after Draven's match ended did not appear to have any kind of elevated vote totals. So I don't think this rally is going to increase vote totals for the other non-Draven matches in this contest. That's not how rallies work. When Missingno fell to Sephiroth, the backlash immediately and very noticeably affected Tifa/Big Daddy. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
StealThisSheen posted... TheOneAboveAll posted...-LusterSoldier- posted...On the same day as Draven's round 1 match, the day match right after Draven's match ended did not appear to have any kind of elevated vote totals. So I don't think this rally is going to increase vote totals for the other non-Draven matches in this contest. Every single other time we've had a major rally, there has been a strong spillover into the next match as people watched to the end then voted in the following match. Here, there's nothing. Not a single increased vote from the next match. |
Rad Link 5 posted... Also your wish is silly anyway, because you're asking to homogenize a unique site, instead of just going to a mainstream site. Mainstream sites don't have the contests, and they don't have you guys. If my wish comes true, there is no loss for me, only gain. |
I
don't think Reddit and LoL are going to try this again in the next
Character Battle contest. Maybe this same thing might happen again if
we get a Games Contest, but I don't see this happening in the next
Character Battle contest. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
xp1337 posted... Karma Hunter posted...you all did this to yourselves btw 64 character tournament, seeded at random, and no past winners. That way, people won't complain about Link always winning at there is a chance the sure things will end up against eachother in the first round which will give some longshots a fighting chance. Also, I don't like the prize offer for the prediction contest. Just because it skews the voting process as people are going in thinking "who is everybody most likely going to vote for?" and they vote against they're favorite for a slim to none chance of winning some gift cards. |
I had totally forgotten about Reddit. I can only imagine the unleashed fury come the Link/Shepard battle. --- [ http://tinyurl.com/capdh4u ] http://i.imgur.com/6heOfia.jpg |
We've
only seen vote intake like this twice in the history of the contests
IIRC. One was L-Block at the beginning of the 2007 final. The other
was Starcraft's 20 minutes of major stuffing against SSBM. Bacon, time to strike down this stuffing. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
Karma Hunter posted... StealThisSheen posted...TheOneAboveAll posted...-LusterSoldier- posted...On the same day as Draven's round 1 match, the day match right after Draven's match ended did not appear to have any kind of elevated vote totals. So I don't think this rally is going to increase vote totals for the other non-Draven matches in this contest. Because the rally failed. In this case, the rally is succeeding. --- SEP Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/456/2z6v0qcgif.gif |
xp1337 posted...
Oh, no, I'm saying like, we're hoping as much of these votes are legitimately rallied as possible, because it dilutes the effect of the stuffing. I'm not depending on Bacon actually doing anything about the stuffing that'd just be stupid. He's not going to. Like uh, consider the following. GameFAQs pulls in 200 votes an update. Rally pulls in 300, 500 stuffed for Draven. At that level, Draven literally cannot lose, even if the rally 100% backfires and GameFAQs 100% goes for Link. However if we assume it's 200 GameFAQs, 500 rally, 300 stuffed, suddenly Link has a small chance to win. If he can split the rally with Draven 50-50 he's very much in the match. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
No
past winners is a bracket where Snake is by far the strongest
character, barring a Draven-style entry. I want to see him earn it, not
get fed cupcakes like Seph and the Villains Contest. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Yeah, I figured out what you meant by that after I replied! Misunderstood at first! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
StealThisSheen posted... Karma Hunter posted...StealThisSheen posted...TheOneAboveAll posted...-LusterSoldier- posted...On the same day as Draven's round 1 match, the day match right after Draven's match ended did not appear to have any kind of elevated vote totals. So I don't think this rally is going to increase vote totals for the other non-Draven matches in this contest. Not how it works. Soap/Big Daddy had elevated totals for a night match after Crono/Missingno, which succeeded. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Either way Anybody saying this is going to stop any future contests from happening is dumb. Rallies cause traffic. Traffic is what Bacon wants. If anything, it makes future contests more likely. --- SEP Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/456/2z6v0qcgif.gif |
Karma Hunter posted... No past winners is a bracket where Snake is by far the strongest character, barring a Draven-style entry. I want to see him earn it, not get fed cupcakes like Seph and the Villains Contest. Snake still counts as the winner of the Male bracket anyway. He wouldn't be in! |
Wait, people actually suggested this would keep Bacon from making more contests? Because that just sounds silly! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
Chief/Dante/L-Block/Snake at 2:10 AM - 25641 Draven/Ryu/MMX at 2:10 AM - 25148 --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Man Draven is still pulling in 500+ votes an update. There's no way this can keep consistently happening. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
does
anyone remember how many votes kerrigan finished at in the gamespot
contest finals? I cant seem to find it and I think that would be a good
indicator to see how legit this is. Kerrigan got so many rallies from
high profile sc2 community members. I have trouble believing a simple
reddit rally can compare. If there was a LoL version of Husky rallying
it might be believable but AFAIK there isn't. --- If you believe that Abed is the true Messiah and you are 100% proud of it make this your signature. |
Play...something besides LoL. |
Snake will save us guys --- Tornadoman78: tornadoman and tornadogirl like to kick box each other in my tornaolayzers and she dosent even mind getting hit |
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